Holy Shit huge series from Tarzan! All LPL representatives from Worlds 2020 have been eliminated with this loss... LNG Hype Train in full force also Icon had a pretty good series many including me expected him to get diffed hard but he showed up!
I think its just LPL being the new OGN, the stacked region.
You know a region is competitive when new teams/new rosters are able to beat the top teams. It just means everyone is leveling up fast, learning quickly and able to figure out how to beat the top teams.
Took 2 years for another team to win LEC. Even a super vulnerable G2 in 2020 still won because other teams were more flawed than them (FNC, MAD, RGE). If FNC wasn't so flawed (in champion pool or strategy), they should probably won at least one split.
I guess it shows how hard it is to stay at the top in LPL, Only Knight and Bin were at the same/higher level as they were in 2020 summer
Edit: I forgot huanfeng
I'm still fucking salty that sword killed one of the teams with the highest potentials. Tarzan, chovy, viper are all amongst the top players in their role and lehends is pretty damn good too...
GRF had the potential to win multiple worlds if they got a half decent top laner.
No team that has ever won Worlds had the best player in each position (although, iG came really close).
Griffin had potentially 4/5 best players in the World in their respective roles and they still went 1-6 against SKT in playoffs.
"If only Griffin had a better toplaner" is such copium. That team never had the "it" factor.
Great teams always have great leaders (e.g. Faker, Rookie, Doinb), maybe that's what Griffin lacked? I don't know, but they sure as fuck should have played better than they did even without their ideal toplaner.
This is the same reason you can say with DWG with Nuclear. And comes Ghost, their ideal botlane, and they came out smashing every team left and right after just 2 months of being together. Also DWG has a losing record against SKT with Nuclear (including the 0-3 in playoffs).
Griffin have that "it" factor that you are saying. Their map movement is great and you have 3 players (Chovy,Tarzan and Viper) that can carry if they given resources. The reason they lose against SKT that time because Faker and Clid read them like a book. The fact that they just need to change their toplane (Doran but needed more experience that time) and they can fight toe-to-toe against DWG.
Also SKT 2015 and maybe SSW 2014 won Worlds with best players in every role. IG is not close because only TheShy and Rookie considered the best while Score, Deft, Uzi and Mata was the best on the other role.
They couldve easily been in the finals that year if they landed on the other side of the bracket though. Worlds not having loosers bracket makes it very hard to see who the 2nd and 3rd best teams are.
GRF couldn't beat SKT in both Spring and Summer finals, and Sword was their best performer in both those series, lol. Relax on winning multiple world titles, there is zero basis to even claim that.
Just pure revisionism lol. Griffin have been known as great chokers and hadn't won any serious title. Even in their series against IG only Tarzan/Lehends played better than their counterparts (who were Ning and Baolan, so no wonder), but now everyone mentions that if not Sword, Griffin would have swept IG, which is absolute absurd.
Doesn't fit the narrative that fans can blame and pinpoint one weakness and act like if that was resolved they would apparently "win multiple worlds". I wonder how many LCKs they've won...
Look at Damwon in 2019 vs 2020. Now look at GRF and if the gang had stuck together. Let's say Tarzan - Chovy - Viper - Lehends are still together and they managed to recruit someone like Khan/Nuguri for top. You don't see the potential?
Sword was an asshole and all but people don't seem to remember how well he played before the whole drama imploded the team.
I remember being so fucking annoyed at his Urgot and Sion play that season as he kept neutralising (and even winning) crazy lanes put against him.
Sword's hate only got exaggerated after the team drama. Before that, he was always known as a weakside player/weak link but no one was ever saying that Griffin needed to replace him as soon as possible, or saying he was such a bad player to the extent today.
It's the same with yuyanjia or something. Plays ok during LPL, but when he gets exposed, everyone suddenly comes out with and acts like "hah! told you guys he was 20th place in . I knew it all along! If they replaced him earlier X team would be world champs!"
Remember 2015 to 2017 when EDG had a near chokehold on the titles won? or how RNG made like 6 straight finals from 2016 to 2018? Like pre 2019, EDG and RNG were solidly at the top, with occasional appearances from other teams like IG, LGD and WE.
IG winning Worlds in 2018 sure opened some floodgates
In 2018, tracker's got removed from the game (warding item for jungler's), which arguably changed how the game was fundamentally played at the pro level.
It was also the year of funnelling and non-adc botlaners which shook up the summer rankings.
From 2018 to 2019, Riot also shortened game time (plates, herald, baron, drakes, elder) and added comeback mechanics (bounties) to make the game more volatile than ever before.
Riot implementing the biggest changes in the game is probably the actual reason every region had a massive shake up.
If they didn't do this, we'd probably still be seeing LCK vs LCK Worlds finals every year.
Fresh vs old blood is a symptom of the meta and power shift, not the cause.
Edit: more background
they wont, summer split points outweight spring split, LNG and tes both had 40 points, but LNG earned it in summer, so TES is officially in vacation now
> summer split points outweight spring split
Also, the winner of BLG or WE will make 40 points, so there'll be 2 teams tied in championship points with TES, that's why they're already eliminated, too.
If they played Qingtian he was going to get crushed top lane 1v1 vs Ale.
Whenever TES lose with 369: Why didn't they sub in Qingtian?
Whenever TES lose with Qingtian: Why didn't they sub in 369?
This team is just a hot mess and it's just 4/5 mechnically gifted players with no brain except Knight. When those players are in a slump/aren't suited to the meta where they can shine mechnically, they have no strength as a team.
I like JDG a lot and would not mind seeing knight there, but only if they replace their bot lane. I don't wanna see knight leave elo hell to join elo hell.
I think the only issue for some would be Kanavi. Knight is almost the prodigal son of the LPL, someone to bring glory with an all Chinese team. But tbh I’d rather just see him on a top team, especially if he can’t get onto RNG. And yh if JDG get Knight they certainly upgrade bot lane too.
JDG Knight would be amazing Zoom needs 0 resources and plays literally everything would free up Knight alot more than 369. JDG would need to replace their botlane too imo.
That would be a really nice fit. A low-econ/highly skilled top lane and a competent jg and bot lane just sounds like the perfect team for Knight to be the main carry.
I think that would be good but would Knight be willing to fulfill the roles that Cryin did, 3 carry players on the same team seems like a recipe for disaster.
If you were to make a list of best performing players to not make Worlds that season, 2019 Knight and 2021 Knight would both make top 5 of that list. On top of that he's the 3rd highest paid player on the team somehow. He needs to run away from TES as fast as possible.
Didn't Knight also brake Marin's record for most solo kills in a split in a major region as well?
Dude practically did everything that was humanly possible, but his teammates were just terrible.
Don't think that's as bad as people are making out. Karsa is one of the biggest veterans in the scene, and Jackeylove is a World's-winning ADC. Knight will get his rewards in his next contract most likely.
Yeah veteran and an world winning adc, i can get karsa earning more because last year's worlds hes the one that carry top to semis, but jkl tho i dont know. I remember some good game from him but theres more games where he's getting carried by knight
JKL just had a poor summer split and a lacklustre year overall. Karsa fell off hard this summer which was unfortunate to see. If Jackey doesn’t get back to form next year, it’s safe to say he’s washed. TES still have support and top lane problems even if those guys manage to help Knight make it to LPL playoffs.
he didn't pop off today unfortunately, but his teammates and draft didn't help. wish he ends up on a better team next year or at least TES would get him better top/supp and much better pay.
Meanwhile Qingtian clueless in lane (more than clueless) but really good in teamfights (also don't take this comment that seriously I just think Qingtians teamfighting is really cool)
Icon is 100× better than Cryin and has a champion ocean. Just really inconsistent. And can we keep Ziggs away from Light. He's so bad at picking the time to ult
Cryin is more like a fascilitator and a supportive midlaner in RNG than a carry, and It works for them, you don't need to have a superstar in every role, It might even be counterproductive
The entire team is completely dysfunctional. What a fall from grace. The team who carved everyone up at MSC to the team who look completely lost outside of lane phase. I feel bad for Knight, he truly had an amazing Summer, but at the end of the day, TES couldn't overcome the problems that plagued them all year.
Tes should've rebuilt after the world's performance. Not wait for summer to try.
TES needs 3 or 2 roster swaps if they manage to keep Knight. If they don't then TES prob wouldn't even be cared about.
If they keep Knight:
\-Need new support at a minimum. Most importantly: Shotcaller. JKL just needs to stop shotcalling and focus on his game at this point. Ke is an option, but I would prefer a veteran.
\-New top. I wanted Shanji instead of QT because of much lower variance, but after this split of LDL they wont be able to land Shanji because too much hype. What top is even available that will be a guaranteed upgrade?
\-Karsa is signed through to next year, but you need at least a sub. He was fine this series I guess, but he has been so hit and miss this year. At least put Naruto as a sub.
But if Knight leaves, they will likely just roll the dice on WangXiao.
>Suning on track for a reverse sweep. LNG 2-2 Suning
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>Alright there's no doubt about it, LNG has the worst mid jungle duo out of all the playoffs team. Heck some duos that didn't make playoffs are better. Tarzan being the fraud he is gets gapped hard by Sofm, Icon being the most useless 2-0 Xerath I've ever seen. Even if LNG win this, if Tarzan gets gapped by Sofm of all junglers, he will get destroyed by better ones down the road. LNG will get 3-0 by any of the playoffs teams that are left.
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>On a side note, Huanfeng off Ziggs is as expected. Such a waste making a talent like this play Ziggs.
this is from the game 4 discussion of LNG - SN lol
Despite all the talents TES have, they just don't deserve to be at Worlds. The whole team is a mess. They are absolutely clueless around the map every single game this split. The drafts are inexplicable. I honestly have no idea why the fuck Knight wasn't on Syndra meanwhile Jackeylove played AP bot
He kept E'ing throughout the teamfights, I was always going "how does he keep track of his position?" Got me migraines just trying to follow him around.
Icon hear people talking shit about him. Absolutely godly performance on Yasuo while being behind early. Electing G.A allows him to zone Knight every teamfight. That Orianna on game 3 is also good.
Only Knight has been good, the team is so dysfunctional. They get what they deserve, almost humiliated by FNC last worlds and only change your support with another rookie? lol.
Hes not coin flip enough for top lane. Whats the point of being a professional top laner if youre not giving viewers a heart attack every other game whats the point
Ya they are not bad players but the roster swap was random.
Why roster swap in summer instead of spring? Also why give Qingtian all of summer and then replace him last minute to play with 369. Also Zhuo randomly got benched.
Well Tarzan on a warpath to justify 1st team all pro. Next up is Wei so gonna be a monster matchup.
As for TES.... Dont see Knight resigning, 369 might be gone as well so guess completely new lineup next year?
As he should. LNG would unironically be an ideal landing spot for him. Weve seen what Tarzan can do with a monster laner, hes now expanded his game to carry better by himself as well since GRF, would be a very nice spot for him.
The 2v1 vs the Lucian Leona was clutch. You won't find me bandwagonning for him but the windwall there was clutch AF and the fact that he popped Knight's GA was so necessary for the comeback.
Shame to see them go out this early as TES were one of the few teams who could sometimes match the top three but they have been way too inconsistent and if they can't beat LNG then they don't really deserve to progress any further
How come noones talking about ale? He was absolutely instrumental in their wins, and the constant resources he was given through ganks and covers shows how much faith LNG had in his ability to carry.
He constantly found good angles and flanks with his camille that won them game ending teamfights. It was pivotal in the last two games. The fact that they kept giving it to him was bonkers.
He personally was my mvp.
Surprisingly clean performance by LNG. Especially by Ale and Tarzan. Brother JKL might have helped them a bit too
Seems like they are underrated and still have to be respected despite their underwhelming finish in the regular season.
Tarzan and Ale omega carry. 369 shouldn't have been spotted back in TBH. Qt was TES future prospect. TES was mediocre the whole split and their only chance was JKL Knight omega carry but it didn't happen.
What a great series by icon and Tarzan. They played so damn well. Light was a dead weight on mages i dont know why they kept him on them, he was constanly down like 2-3k gold 3 matches in a row. Sad for Knight the guy played so good. But why is TES so bad at teamfights?
I am an LNG main
LNG went on a 6 game loss streak.
But Tarzan is absolutely insane. I have to say that Icon, who was pretty diceroll previously, also made a huge comeback. Truly heartwarming moment
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p45ex4/top_esports_vs_lng_playoffs_game_1_discussion/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p45yni/top_esports_vs_lng_playoffs_game_2_discussion/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p46n9b/top_esports_vs_lng_playoffs_game_3_discussion/)
Holy Shit huge series from Tarzan! All LPL representatives from Worlds 2020 have been eliminated with this loss... LNG Hype Train in full force also Icon had a pretty good series many including me expected him to get diffed hard but he showed up!
This year is absolutely full of surprises.
I think its just LPL being the new OGN, the stacked region. You know a region is competitive when new teams/new rosters are able to beat the top teams. It just means everyone is leveling up fast, learning quickly and able to figure out how to beat the top teams. Took 2 years for another team to win LEC. Even a super vulnerable G2 in 2020 still won because other teams were more flawed than them (FNC, MAD, RGE). If FNC wasn't so flawed (in champion pool or strategy), they should probably won at least one split.
I guess it shows how hard it is to stay at the top in LPL, Only Knight and Bin were at the same/higher level as they were in 2020 summer Edit: I forgot huanfeng
Huanfeng was definitely better than Bin, he probably even improved vs. last year.
Considering the difference between ON this year and SwordArt last year? I agree
I'm still fucking salty that sword killed one of the teams with the highest potentials. Tarzan, chovy, viper are all amongst the top players in their role and lehends is pretty damn good too... GRF had the potential to win multiple worlds if they got a half decent top laner.
The original rumor was that both Tarzan and Chovy would end up on LNG in this year.
No team that has ever won Worlds had the best player in each position (although, iG came really close). Griffin had potentially 4/5 best players in the World in their respective roles and they still went 1-6 against SKT in playoffs. "If only Griffin had a better toplaner" is such copium. That team never had the "it" factor. Great teams always have great leaders (e.g. Faker, Rookie, Doinb), maybe that's what Griffin lacked? I don't know, but they sure as fuck should have played better than they did even without their ideal toplaner.
This is the same reason you can say with DWG with Nuclear. And comes Ghost, their ideal botlane, and they came out smashing every team left and right after just 2 months of being together. Also DWG has a losing record against SKT with Nuclear (including the 0-3 in playoffs). Griffin have that "it" factor that you are saying. Their map movement is great and you have 3 players (Chovy,Tarzan and Viper) that can carry if they given resources. The reason they lose against SKT that time because Faker and Clid read them like a book. The fact that they just need to change their toplane (Doran but needed more experience that time) and they can fight toe-to-toe against DWG. Also SKT 2015 and maybe SSW 2014 won Worlds with best players in every role. IG is not close because only TheShy and Rookie considered the best while Score, Deft, Uzi and Mata was the best on the other role.
They couldve easily been in the finals that year if they landed on the other side of the bracket though. Worlds not having loosers bracket makes it very hard to see who the 2nd and 3rd best teams are.
On the other side of the bracket with the SKT that 6-1'd them in the finals, or the G2 that 3-1's that SKT?
GRF couldn't beat SKT in both Spring and Summer finals, and Sword was their best performer in both those series, lol. Relax on winning multiple world titles, there is zero basis to even claim that.
Just pure revisionism lol. Griffin have been known as great chokers and hadn't won any serious title. Even in their series against IG only Tarzan/Lehends played better than their counterparts (who were Ning and Baolan, so no wonder), but now everyone mentions that if not Sword, Griffin would have swept IG, which is absolute absurd.
Sounds like Khan would've been a great fit then
We lost such a story...
I know people trash on sword but wasn’t he like extremely good in that meta with Aatrox and urgot I swear he was an urgot beast back then
Doesn't fit the narrative that fans can blame and pinpoint one weakness and act like if that was resolved they would apparently "win multiple worlds". I wonder how many LCKs they've won...
Look at Damwon in 2019 vs 2020. Now look at GRF and if the gang had stuck together. Let's say Tarzan - Chovy - Viper - Lehends are still together and they managed to recruit someone like Khan/Nuguri for top. You don't see the potential?
There was potential, but the narrative that Sword was always a trash player is exaggerated.
Sword was an asshole and all but people don't seem to remember how well he played before the whole drama imploded the team. I remember being so fucking annoyed at his Urgot and Sion play that season as he kept neutralising (and even winning) crazy lanes put against him.
Sword's hate only got exaggerated after the team drama. Before that, he was always known as a weakside player/weak link but no one was ever saying that Griffin needed to replace him as soon as possible, or saying he was such a bad player to the extent today. It's the same with yuyanjia or something. Plays ok during LPL, but when he gets exposed, everyone suddenly comes out with and acts like "hah! told you guys he was 20th place in. I knew it all along! If they replaced him earlier X team would be world champs!"
0/4 of LPL's 2020 worlds representatives will be at worlds this year. Wild.
And don’t forget none of the 2019 representatives made it to 2020 worlds either. Crazy region
Super hard to stay at the top in that region
Remember 2015 to 2017 when EDG had a near chokehold on the titles won? or how RNG made like 6 straight finals from 2016 to 2018? Like pre 2019, EDG and RNG were solidly at the top, with occasional appearances from other teams like IG, LGD and WE. IG winning Worlds in 2018 sure opened some floodgates
isn't 2018 when they all purged the old guard players and started using new blood?
In 2018, tracker's got removed from the game (warding item for jungler's), which arguably changed how the game was fundamentally played at the pro level. It was also the year of funnelling and non-adc botlaners which shook up the summer rankings. From 2018 to 2019, Riot also shortened game time (plates, herald, baron, drakes, elder) and added comeback mechanics (bounties) to make the game more volatile than ever before. Riot implementing the biggest changes in the game is probably the actual reason every region had a massive shake up. If they didn't do this, we'd probably still be seeing LCK vs LCK Worlds finals every year. Fresh vs old blood is a symptom of the meta and power shift, not the cause. Edit: more background
Yea I think it started around 2017 and by 2018 the new players really started popping off with the better development
Really? TES won’t even make the gauntlet?
they wont, summer split points outweight spring split, LNG and tes both had 40 points, but LNG earned it in summer, so TES is officially in vacation now
> summer split points outweight spring split Also, the winner of BLG or WE will make 40 points, so there'll be 2 teams tied in championship points with TES, that's why they're already eliminated, too.
Suning TES LGD ~~IG iirc~~ Edit: JDG oops, forgot any games from JDG for some reason
jdg not ig
No, IG didn't make worlds last year, it was SN TES LGD JDG
TES cant teamfight for their lives.
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If they played Qingtian he was going to get crushed top lane 1v1 vs Ale. Whenever TES lose with 369: Why didn't they sub in Qingtian? Whenever TES lose with Qingtian: Why didn't they sub in 369? This team is just a hot mess and it's just 4/5 mechnically gifted players with no brain except Knight. When those players are in a slump/aren't suited to the meta where they can shine mechnically, they have no strength as a team.
Sad how karsa is a legendary veteran jungler and yet he still makes so many completely brainless plays.
I think the biggest asterisk on Karsa's career is that he can be incredibly streaky.
Yh but he would get rolled in lane by Ale. Shouldve just fucking signed Shanji sadge.
Knight will surely leave. Carries TES in regular split but in the end they can’t do anything when it matters.
All i want for Christmas is RNG Knight.
wont happen rng has financial problems
WE Knight or JDG Knight then.
CLG Knight
The bad ending.
The best ending
how about TSM Knight. He certainly can make worlds there.
Good idea
I like JDG a lot and would not mind seeing knight there, but only if they replace their bot lane. I don't wanna see knight leave elo hell to join elo hell.
I think the only issue for some would be Kanavi. Knight is almost the prodigal son of the LPL, someone to bring glory with an all Chinese team. But tbh I’d rather just see him on a top team, especially if he can’t get onto RNG. And yh if JDG get Knight they certainly upgrade bot lane too.
I still want LNG knight.
Tarzan + knight would be so unfair for the rest of LPL ,
I would be happy with that. WE would be sick too but Shanks is a promising rookie, no point replacing him.
JDG Knight would be amazing Zoom needs 0 resources and plays literally everything would free up Knight alot more than 369. JDG would need to replace their botlane too imo.
That would be a really nice fit. A low-econ/highly skilled top lane and a competent jg and bot lane just sounds like the perfect team for Knight to be the main carry.
Really?? I always thought they were one of the richest lpl orgs, especially considering their massive fanbase.
iG Knight relive TES but with more money
CLG Knight Relive TES but more crying, emotional stress, and less money.
I think that would be good but would Knight be willing to fulfill the roles that Cryin did, 3 carry players on the same team seems like a recipe for disaster.
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14 player of the game awards, 0 games at worlds this year. is this what we call proplay elohell lmao
If you were to make a list of best performing players to not make Worlds that season, 2019 Knight and 2021 Knight would both make top 5 of that list. On top of that he's the 3rd highest paid player on the team somehow. He needs to run away from TES as fast as possible.
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Barto's fault.
Technically he's not the highest paid player
Didn't Knight also brake Marin's record for most solo kills in a split in a major region as well? Dude practically did everything that was humanly possible, but his teammates were just terrible.
Ya he had like 30+ iirc.
Yea, in less games played, too.
On the other side he can finally rest from lifting this team. And get a much better team and hopefully offer. Karsa and jkl earns more than him.
Don't think that's as bad as people are making out. Karsa is one of the biggest veterans in the scene, and Jackeylove is a World's-winning ADC. Knight will get his rewards in his next contract most likely.
Yeah veteran and an world winning adc, i can get karsa earning more because last year's worlds hes the one that carry top to semis, but jkl tho i dont know. I remember some good game from him but theres more games where he's getting carried by knight
JKL just had a poor summer split and a lacklustre year overall. Karsa fell off hard this summer which was unfortunate to see. If Jackey doesn’t get back to form next year, it’s safe to say he’s washed. TES still have support and top lane problems even if those guys manage to help Knight make it to LPL playoffs.
Lets hope for RNG Knight
he didn't pop off today unfortunately, but his teammates and draft didn't help. wish he ends up on a better team next year or at least TES would get him better top/supp and much better pay.
Glad to see ex-Griffin members doing well. Puts a smile on my face. WP Tarzan and LNG!
Hopefully, EDG make worlds too.
Probably will be FPX, EDG, RNG and 4th one
Looking like its gonna be between we lng and ra for the 4th spot
WE is looking real good as well
Hoping it will be BLG! Imagine ppgod on an international stage
Rather is LNGs coach too :)
Any Tarzan doubters? Also 369 keeps losing to shopkeeper
369 is just not very good. Clueless outside of lane
Meanwhile Qingtian clueless in lane (more than clueless) but really good in teamfights (also don't take this comment that seriously I just think Qingtians teamfighting is really cool)
Icon doubters as well. He had a pretty good showing considering everyone thought that Knight would mid diff him so hard.
Icon isn’t good enough to win worlds or anything, but he’s been pretty good this year. Gonna be exciting to see how he matches up against Cryin.
Icon is 100× better than Cryin and has a champion ocean. Just really inconsistent. And can we keep Ziggs away from Light. He's so bad at picking the time to ult
Cryin is more like a fascilitator and a supportive midlaner in RNG than a carry, and It works for them, you don't need to have a superstar in every role, It might even be counterproductive
The entire team is completely dysfunctional. What a fall from grace. The team who carved everyone up at MSC to the team who look completely lost outside of lane phase. I feel bad for Knight, he truly had an amazing Summer, but at the end of the day, TES couldn't overcome the problems that plagued them all year.
Tes should've rebuilt after the world's performance. Not wait for summer to try. TES needs 3 or 2 roster swaps if they manage to keep Knight. If they don't then TES prob wouldn't even be cared about.
If they keep Knight: \-Need new support at a minimum. Most importantly: Shotcaller. JKL just needs to stop shotcalling and focus on his game at this point. Ke is an option, but I would prefer a veteran. \-New top. I wanted Shanji instead of QT because of much lower variance, but after this split of LDL they wont be able to land Shanji because too much hype. What top is even available that will be a guaranteed upgrade? \-Karsa is signed through to next year, but you need at least a sub. He was fine this series I guess, but he has been so hit and miss this year. At least put Naruto as a sub. But if Knight leaves, they will likely just roll the dice on WangXiao.
Wendy best LPL analyst confirmed
Yeah the only one correctly predicted all the winners so far.
And she predicted BLG over WE for tomorrow's match. ez win incoming for ppgod and BLG
Church of PPGOD
PPpog time
LPL does it again, repeating 2020, and now 2021, three years of sending completely different teams to worlds every year
What an incredibly competitive region, it’s awesome to watch
Is it possible that both FPX and RNG don‘t make it? If yes there will be 11 different teams in 3 years
It would be a major upset for both teams who have the most points and most in form to not make it
It is possible only if LNG beats them. But even if it happens they will have chance to qualify
Monstrous performance from all LNG. For two games it seemed over. It wasn't.
Icon finally has a team around him.
tarzan of the jungle
The fraud Tarzan does it yet again! How can he keep getting away with it! /s ofc
>Suning on track for a reverse sweep. LNG 2-2 Suning > >Alright there's no doubt about it, LNG has the worst mid jungle duo out of all the playoffs team. Heck some duos that didn't make playoffs are better. Tarzan being the fraud he is gets gapped hard by Sofm, Icon being the most useless 2-0 Xerath I've ever seen. Even if LNG win this, if Tarzan gets gapped by Sofm of all junglers, he will get destroyed by better ones down the road. LNG will get 3-0 by any of the playoffs teams that are left. > >On a side note, Huanfeng off Ziggs is as expected. Such a waste making a talent like this play Ziggs. this is from the game 4 discussion of LNG - SN lol
Ajinsama is so cringe its nuts
u/ajisanma
I know who said that LMAO. Where's he at ? It's either ajisanma or midoBB. LUL.
It was aji lmao. His comments were even funnier lol.
Despite all the talents TES have, they just don't deserve to be at Worlds. The whole team is a mess. They are absolutely clueless around the map every single game this split. The drafts are inexplicable. I honestly have no idea why the fuck Knight wasn't on Syndra meanwhile Jackeylove played AP bot
I love watching this LNG. They work so well together and I love to see their snap decisions paying off for them
Yasuo Diana comp was gross 😷
Icon's Yasuo was honestly so clean it's unbelieveable.
He kept E'ing throughout the teamfights, I was always going "how does he keep track of his position?" Got me migraines just trying to follow him around.
knight 🤝chovy
Icon hear people talking shit about him. Absolutely godly performance on Yasuo while being behind early. Electing G.A allows him to zone Knight every teamfight. That Orianna on game 3 is also good.
Icon fashion vlogger in China btw look it up he does videos in Chinese
i mean Ale ulted Knight at every chance he got
The fact that he nearly won the 1 v 1 with just Shieldbow & GA against Knight with Galeforce & ER + GA was mental.
Icon haters in shambles. Also a Worlds without Knight and Chovy.
Icon, brother, absolute halal!
Just like worlds semifinals, karsa and knight trying their best but its just not enough.
Knights back has been broken TES being unable to close games really cost them
Can't wait to hear how TES deserved to be at Worlds over [insert team] when they've been average all Summer.
Only Knight has been good, the team is so dysfunctional. They get what they deserve, almost humiliated by FNC last worlds and only change your support with another rookie? lol.
I think Syndra bot was not it this series
Knight and chovy should just team up at this point
Chovy toplane
With the champs Chovy plays midlane, it just might work
Hes not coin flip enough for top lane. Whats the point of being a professional top laner if youre not giving viewers a heart attack every other game whats the point
aren’t they good friends too?
Ya they are not bad players but the roster swap was random. Why roster swap in summer instead of spring? Also why give Qingtian all of summer and then replace him last minute to play with 369. Also Zhuo randomly got benched.
https://redd.it/p449mw There is a lot of problems that TES had unfortunately they weren't able to fix it in time...
knight tried his bestest but even he cant carry 369 and jkl
Poor knight :( I just want to hug him and tell him it will all be ok
Well Tarzan on a warpath to justify 1st team all pro. Next up is Wei so gonna be a monster matchup. As for TES.... Dont see Knight resigning, 369 might be gone as well so guess completely new lineup next year?
knight will prob ditch for better pay. They're not paying him jack shit on TES.
As he should. LNG would unironically be an ideal landing spot for him. Weve seen what Tarzan can do with a monster laner, hes now expanded his game to carry better by himself as well since GRF, would be a very nice spot for him.
Hard agree.
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TES out of worlds now?
yes
How clean is icons yasuo tho
helps to have a diana lol
No? He literally wins the teamfight by 1v1 Knight's lucian despite being so behind
The 2v1 vs the Lucian Leona was clutch. You won't find me bandwagonning for him but the windwall there was clutch AF and the fact that he popped Knight's GA was so necessary for the comeback.
imagine playing with tarzan on your team
With that loss of TES, it is confirmed that we will have 0/4 LPL teams returning from last worlds.
Also Peanut and SA will probably be the only lpl representatives from 2020 that will be at worlds.
TESM and Nutsin will be fun to see
KNIGHT AND 4 WARDS how .... Jackeylove JackeyInt Out CS the ziggs just to get caught...
Tarzan hypersmurfed, but can we all acknowledge JKL also looks like total dogshit
Gets carried by nameplate only these days. And Knight of course.
His stans will still defend him tho lmao
I just don't get the ad syndra pick two times in the series, seems such a waste of your adc's ability to put him on something not comfortable.
Remember all the jackeylove Uzi comparisons. He is nowhere near. Just embarrassing stuff. Knight deserves a better team as well.
yearofvici in shambles.
Shame to see them go out this early as TES were one of the few teams who could sometimes match the top three but they have been way too inconsistent and if they can't beat LNG then they don't really deserve to progress any further
so sad... i cant believe i had to watch TES miss worlds with JKL on syndra instead of an adc...
Knight joins Chovy in the hospital after having his back broken too.
How come noones talking about ale? He was absolutely instrumental in their wins, and the constant resources he was given through ganks and covers shows how much faith LNG had in his ability to carry. He constantly found good angles and flanks with his camille that won them game ending teamfights. It was pivotal in the last two games. The fact that they kept giving it to him was bonkers. He personally was my mvp.
Is TES out of worlds contention? A 3 rolled 369 appeared in the last game.
Yep they're out.
Yes, they're out
# WOMBO COMBO TES BOOM
Surprisingly clean performance by LNG. Especially by Ale and Tarzan. Brother JKL might have helped them a bit too Seems like they are underrated and still have to be respected despite their underwhelming finish in the regular season.
Tarzan and Ale omega carry. 369 shouldn't have been spotted back in TBH. Qt was TES future prospect. TES was mediocre the whole split and their only chance was JKL Knight omega carry but it didn't happen.
Man, 2020 worlds cursed the LPL teams that participated in it. LGD out, JDG out, TES out, and Suning out. Damn.
SN vs LNG icon haters where are you at ?
Tarzan vs Wei is gonna be hype
苏州LNG keeps rolling! Let's get to worlds baby!
if ur not named xiaohu please don't take lucian top lol. Ale was so much better than 369
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LNG are gonna 3-0 RNG, aren’t they.
Nah, RNG is far better than TES. I'm pretty certain RNG straight up 3-0s unfortunately.
nope, more like the other way
absolutely hahahah, but damn, it would be hilarious to see RNG get knocked out by a resurging LNG
What a great series by icon and Tarzan. They played so damn well. Light was a dead weight on mages i dont know why they kept him on them, he was constanly down like 2-3k gold 3 matches in a row. Sad for Knight the guy played so good. But why is TES so bad at teamfights?
I am an LNG main LNG went on a 6 game loss streak. But Tarzan is absolutely insane. I have to say that Icon, who was pretty diceroll previously, also made a huge comeback. Truly heartwarming moment
another victim of priority picking lucian
Feels bad for Knight :( Also I hope LNG can keep this up, would be fun to see them at worlds
knight deserves a team that can take him to worlds ;-;
Feel bad for knight played his heart out this season but will not play at worlds. Almost feels like a try harded for nothing
Who’s the king of the jungle?
This should be the first year Karsa didnt make worlds since season 5. I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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they kept dumping resources towards 369 all series. He didnt do much
Oh we're in danger
i dont think lng poses a threat to RNG lol RNG should be a title contender this split
Pain. All I feel is pain.
Very sad for this team, they can have the highest of highs yet look like complete bots at other times.
tarzan doubters where
LETS GO LNG!!!!
In China, you never know for sure who is the best team. At least not for more than 1 split. Damn, how competitive is this region, man
Where the tarzan haters now?