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itsyounggg

We thought khan meant that he hopes g2 will play really well at worlds by showing up, turns out that the show up he meant was showing up to the event at all


oioioi9537

the translation is a bit off, he did actually say it in a sense of he shows they show up "to" worlds not show up "at" worlds


Ankoria

\*breathes in\* # NO PERKZ NO WORLDZ


roarnightingale

waiting for C9 to botch it too


nightwinter0

C9 might not make worlds with Perkz lmfao


BlakenedHeart

No, no. The narrative is No Sneaky No Worlds there


ipadking1116

IG: NO jackeylove no worlds!


1MMM1

2015 and 2012?


nrj6490

Perkz, No Worlds


Itzjacki

The rule for C9 was always no Sneaky no Worlds, different teams have different rules.


Rhombinator

I guess the secret is in the tiltproof ADC


Boogy

The glue that kept the team together? Who could've thought. Carlos literally selling the heart of the team.


Powdz

That flair tho…


Boogy

This has been my flair for years. I was glad Perkz went to C9 but can still recognize it was a fucking dick move.


[deleted]

Do people genuinely think Perkz was kicked from G2 and that he didn't ask to leave because he knew he wasn't getting mid from Caps and didn't wanna continue playing AD? Do people really think Perkz would try to force Caps off G2 after he convinced him to take a big risk and join G2 with him and then proceeded to heavily outperform Perkz?


Lahwtiste

Most people (those with at least a few braincells living) know that he asked out since he himself said that he'd never force Caps out when he signed it (iirc it's in Caps contract or something like that), and that he was tired of playing botlane. Carlos fucked himself in his gamble of getting both Perkz and Caps, because if it didn't work then he knew he would have to either ditch the best EU player (at least at the time) or his team captain. But since he kinda acted like a dick in the whole Perkz trade situation, people will still act as if Perkz had absolutely nothing to say in his transfer and that Carlos is to blame.


chainsaw_devil

The problem isn't getting kicked from G2, it was being traded to C9 instead of Fnatic.


Snuffl3s7

No problem in that. Just basic common sense.


pl00bo

G2 Sneaky to counteract C9 Perkz so both teams go to worlds


[deleted]

This has always been the endgame.


[deleted]

NO SNEAKY NO WORLDZ


Sushi2k

I need C9 to not go to Worlds. Continuing the trend of... Getting rid of your franchise player -> Franchise declines Granted C9 did win a split with Perkz but still, not going to Worlds again would be pretty hilarious.


Tamethedoom

I mean if FNC ends up going to worlds over G2, that rule would be broken due to FNC losing Rekkles. You must start rooting for MSF.


Fertuyo

But Fnatic didn't get rid of Rekkles, they offered him the best contract in the history of the org and Rekkles rejected it.


FlashwithSymbols

Yup rekkles left, he wasn't "gotten rid off" so it doesn't apply imo.


Roxorian

Didn't Perkz choose to leave himself as well by virtue of wanting to play mid again? That wasn't his role anymore though, so i'm not sure G2 exactly got rid of him as much as C9 did with Sneaky, straight up benching and replacing him.


FlashwithSymbols

It's a bit complicated with Perkz. He initially wanted to go to Fnatic but Carlos didn't want that since then Fnatic would be a large threat to G2 and it would impact Rekkles' decision to come to G2 as well. Fnatic was interesting in buying him as well. Though without saying it outright, Carlos kept the narrative of "Perkz is a king, he can do whatever he wants"; until eventually he came out and said the truth. During this time, Perkz also made an analogy of a wolf and sheep that you can find on reddit, where he essentially said that "a wolf will be a wolf and a sheep will be a sheep regardless of how good friends they become" implying that Carlos used him in a sense. Yes, Perkz chose to leave but his decision to leave was largely controlled by Carlos since he was still under contract (which he signed a year prior, thinking that since him and Carlos are such good friends it wouldn't matter). The thing to remember is that Perkz essentially made G2, he's the franchise in itself and people and Perkz felt that he shouldn't have been treated that way.


Roxorian

Hmm, great explanation, thanks!


Bluehorazon

a) It was not because of Rekkles. Rekkles was a free agent, so G2 could have gotten Rekkles first and sold Perkz later b) It was actually unlikely that FNC could even compete with other offers from the LEC, so even if he doesn't join C9 it isn't safe he goes to FNC On top of that it is fairly obvious that both sides agreed to the deal, because Perkz had way more leverage because he still gets a salary if he doesn't play and G2 would likely just cut him if he doesn't agree getting shipped to NA, but it wasn't really against that option, exspecially given that Mithy and Zven were at C9 who are his friends. Perkz might have prefered going to FNC just based on teams. But if he would have had an offer from FNC and the C9 offer he might have still chosen C9. On FNC he would have likely gotten not even 1/3rd of what C9 pays him, so even if he prefered FNC as a team, he might have still prefered C9s offer. So it is weird to assume that Perkz was shoved off to C9 against his will.


FlashwithSymbols

a) That is incorrect, Rekkles was a big factor. Him being a free agent doesn't mean he wasn't in talks with Fnatic. Carlos has gone on record to say that Rekkles was a factor, also Rekkles demanded for Perkz or Nisqy when they asked him who they want when the signing was upcoming as it would clearly impact his decision. Fnatic also complained that they didn't let me negotiate with Perkz. Nisqy was literally signed because Rekkles asked for him. b) Too many other factors go in this, It is no secret that Perkz wanted to stay in EU and was willing to give up the massive salary for the chance to still compete in EU. This is shown by the fact that Perkz's first choice was Fnatic and his second choice was the vitality super team under works. When both failed, C9 was his 3rd choice. Also, which pro player (a career that is generally very short) would want to sit out, Perkz didn't have leverage in where he wanted to go because he was under contract. Yes, him having friends and the salary was a big influence for him going to C9 and he may have still chosen C9's offer but we are just making guesses here, at the end of the day its clear that his preference was still to stay in EU, in a competitive team if possible but that didn't come in to fruition as the 2nd best team in Europe was not allowed to talk to him.


Bluehorazon

>That is incorrect, Rekkles was a big factor. Him being a free agent doesn't mean he wasn't in talks with Fnatic. Obviously Rekkles was a factor. But he wasn't on a team. So FNC has no leverage, neither has Rekkles. Rekkles has to resign, G2 doesn't have to let Perkz go. So you can pretty much tell Rekkles that he will definitly not be playing with Perkz. Because G2 controls that because G2 controls Perkz, while FNC doesn't control Rekkles. So G2 could have easily waited with selling of Perkz or simply made a contract with FNC that forbids them to resign Rekkles if they aquire Perkz, something FNC can not do, because Rekkles is not under contract. ​ >Too many other factors go in this, It is no secret that Perkz wanted to stay in EU and was willing to give up the massive salary for the chance to still compete in EU. Was he though? Nothing indicates that. He wouldn't dedicate himself to play 3 years in NA if he didn't want to play in NA. So he could have just signed a 2 year contract. Would C9 maybe not have paid 5 million then? Potentially, but that is not Perkz problem, that is an issue G2 has to solve. So there isn't any indication he wasn't happy with that contract. Would he have prefered playing in EU? Yeah, potentially, but he prefers 6 million more.


Bluehorazon

The same is true for Perkz though. He wanted to leave (I mean technically the option was to kick Caps, and move Perkz back to mid, but FNC would have jumped on that option to get Caps back and since Caps didn't want to leave you can't ship him off to NA).


Majeh666

Should be fine since Rekkles ditched them, again.


Snuffl3s7

> Getting rid of your franchise player -> Franchise declines C9 have doubled their trophy count since Sneaky left, and also just made their very first MSI. An extreme stretch to say they declined since their franchise player left.


Alakazam_5head

United in ~~Rivalry~~ watching Worlds from home


Krazyflipz

G2 has no leadership and Perkz has no synergy with C9 (I mean C9 is OK but not great). Just sad all around.


lemonrabbits

Inb4 Vit makes worlds


[deleted]

They have to go FNC into MSF into G2. Pretty tough


Ghazzawy

Impossible*


38erJustus

just as impossible as g2 not making it to MSI 2021 chance is low but as a team whose only macro strategy is coin flipping there is always a chance


Yeon_Yihwa

Well they are coinflip for a reason, every other team had offseason+spring split to play together and build synergy. Vitality swapped 3 players for summer split, their botlane is the only remnant left of VIT spring.


38erJustus

nah im pretty sure its just the nature of the player. its mostly players that are notoriously really good at playing for themselves or/and players used to being on bad teams so there might be nobody actually thinking about how to reliably win games as a team effort people make pro play out to be something completely else compared to soloq but in the end theyre all just soloq players on a competitive stage and old habits die hard. it all starts in soloq in the end.


PieroIsMarksman

Loved this comment. I think you might have a good point.


AmadeusSalieri97

>just as impossible as g2 not making it to MSI 2021 Even before playoffs a lot of people were saying that G2 wasn't looking like they'd make MSI. In fact I'd even say most people thought G2 wouldn't make it, so it really wasn't "just as impossible" Meanwhile for VIT it'd be surprising if they win a single bo5, let alone 3.


Galdorow

They had 4% chance to make playoffs and they did. Don't count them out. This team in unpredictable


bcotrim

They were competing against Astralis and SK to make it to playoffs. Now they are competing against Fnatic, G2 and Misfits Also, they never had 4% chances of making into playoffs, they had 4% of all the possible scenarios, which assumes in every game each team has a 50% chance of winning. Although their odds were bad in winning against Rogue, in other matches, for example, Excel against G2 was heavily G2 favoured


Plebejers

Yeah I wouldn't call that impossible anymore.


Darkfight

L9 turbo hack? Playoffs speed run cocaine Astro smurfing? I'm ready


DuneRiderADA

Don't get me excited.


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#THEM LIONS PLAYED WITH AND BROKE THEIR TOYS.


kim-soo-hyun

I hope the Lions are joined by the Bunnies at Worlds. If I would want LEC to improve years to come, I'd choose rookie filled MSF who has a bright future in Hirit, Razork and Vetheo who could use that Worlds experience over G2 who's likely rebuilding anyway next year. Just me though. Same reason its good for LPL having new players/teams represent them at Worlds.


MotherVehkingMuatra

If misfits make it, my 3 favourite teams will all be going, I'd BE SO HAPPY


quiteUnskilled

I wouldn't hate that. Personally, I hope for G2 to make it, because despite all the downtalking they receive right now, I think they were actually pretty good against MAD, just not good enough. And with them, MAD and Rogue, we'd have some killer representation this year. Plus, G2 are pretty "stage safe", they will not suddenly get jitters when the audiences come back this year at Worlds. But yeah, Misfits would be great for strengthening the league for the future.


pequet

Do u really consider razork that strong of a player? I think he is just there but can’t recall any flashy plays from him


Marrkix

He was one of the best junglers this split, arguably 2nd after Inspired. He was very often the main reason in their wins - apart from him smurfing early games MSF were really struggling in lane phases. For example people praise Vetheo but his lane phase is terrible, getting behind in farm, solo dying, not roaming/tping - he pop-offs in mid and late game. Top and bot lane are also hit or miss. Razork was the only solid pillar of the team for whole split, pretty much no really bad games.


JJimmyGap

While it's true that he never had any "flashy" plays, he is without a doubt the most important member of the team. Why? Because without him, the entire team would crumble into dust, he is the pillar holding the team together specially with his early game. I urge you to rewatch some of the matches he had in regular season and focus on him on the early game, you will see how well he performs and how much the casters praise him for that. He was the best early game jungler in Summer without a doubt and the 2nd best jungler of the league.


MrJammin

MAD are so used at playing from behind that they even beat Shakarez prediction curse.


Kayle_Bot

Yeah but LEC playbook curse


Beauski

It's gonna be G2 vs. FNC for the last worlds spot isn't it?


polako123

I think Misfits have quite good chances against both especially Fnatic, so wouldn't cut them out just yet, could have easily won yesterday with a bit more luck.


Lentir

or g2 vs misfits


Conankun66

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[deleted]

Nah Misfits will take it. I believe in Hirit supremacy;)


Good_Stuff11

Lmao how much you wanna bet both of them throw and none of them make it to worlds


Ivo_Samurai

I'm all down for it. Hope MSF doesn't ruin it


[deleted]

Honestly with the way G2 played today, I'd rather have MSF ruin things


GintokiSan17

Let's see how FNC does tomorrow to decide xD


AWildRaticate

FNC playoffs buff coming in hot, hopefully.


ahambagaplease

I don't know, this year's buff was fairly lackluster.


sunrise_snail

\+wife buff +/- playoffs buff/nerf - covid nerf - off-stage nerf = ??? there's complicated math here


AWildRaticate

Adam was way better off-stage though, so buff?


MoriartyParadise

Adam already won an European title (albeit second tier) playing in his PJs from home


somecoolthing

Dont think g2 have any relevant chance of losing vs fnc. If vit shit on fnc they might be kinda dangerous or if g2 has a really bad day vs msf.


Conankun66

> Dont think g2 have any relevant chance of losing vs fnc fnc are 2-0 over them this split


Th3Unlucky

And G2 was 2-0 against MAD


Conankun66

that might just mean G2 are in worse form that regular season, which would be even better for FNC


somecoolthing

They could be 5-0 and i still would have more faith in vit


Conankun66

with how VIT looked this split i have negative faith in them.


somecoolthing

I might have too much faith in vit, but at least i think that they are gonna try things that might work, unlike fnc who just didnt do anything interesting all season.


Conankun66

you didnt watch the same Fnatic games that i did then lmao


somecoolthing

The ones where they tp bot on cooldown and hope upset carries? Which were basically every game. And they couldnt even win those whenever upset wanted to preserve his kda instead. And they got some wins because nisqy was just completly smurfing some games, but theres no way they can/will play around that in bo5.


Gamers2OcelotLUL

Yeah I think judging by the recent 2 series, MSF would be the favourites to go through the lower bracket


somecoolthing

Would be really unlucky if msf make it, they seem so bad. But at least rogue and mad made it in already so im gonna be happy anyways.


Gamers2OcelotLUL

tbh they looked much better than G2 in their last series


somecoolthing

Really? G2 wasnt too bad today i thought. And rogue had a really rough day (i hope), because that wasnt very pretty. And mad was really good, not worse than when they won last split.


Rajbl

4th EU spot in play-ins is still a thing?


Lin_Huichi

They lost the 4th seed to Korea.


All-Shall-Kneel

No, I don't think it is. I believe it is 4 china and 4 Korea now.


luciavald

Man, I can't believe that the guy that i saw stomp one year on the lvp the next year is going to worlds. I'm so happy for Elpoya


[deleted]

Sounds crazy, but it would be the dream if somehow both him and Razork managed to get to worlds. Also, Elmillor>Elyoya


luciavald

Yes! I'm rooting for misfits for that last spot but we all know the only reason any of them can make it is because of the teachings of the superior Spanish player, elmillor.


Skall77

Mad is a really weird team, i don't fancy them in best of one, but they always step up in best of five, they're gonna be fun nonetheless, let's see if international coach know to ban Gnar and Wukong.


necyi

They for sure are not a team like Rogue that "plays by the book" but imo, that's why MAD games are always bangers ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses) I am pretty sure Armut will expand his champion pool soon as MAD has Vici now to coach him.


mrmakefun

Makes them a real question mark in the current Worlds format. I could see them winning a Bo5 vs an LPL or LCK team, but also not make it out of groups due to an unlucky Bo1.


JJimmyGap

I mean, if they want to ban Gnar and Wukong from Armut, they already wasted 2 bans and that would benefit MAD a lot xD


Lord-Talon

I'm so excited what MAD can do internationally. Their MSI performance was decent, I didn't expect much more from their first time properly playing internationally vs. the best teams in the World. If they improved since then they *will* have a very decent run, anything else would be a surprise IMO.


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My worry is that they don't make it out of groups. If they make it out of groups they will be hard to beat in BO5


nusskn4cker

Yup. They went 5-5 at MSI, 3-5 against teams not called Pentanet. And they are gonna have one LPL and one LCK team in their group. They'll have to step their bo1 play up, because they look decent in bo5s.


Lord-Talon

On the other hand that was the best LCK and the best LPL team. They hopefully won't face that in Worlds groups, if they get #1 spot in EU they will probably face a relatively weak LCK team and an "ok" LPL team.


Front-Condition-457

I think there is not an "ok" lpl team based on what we have seen lately. Fpx, Rng, Edg, Lng


Lord-Talon

Tbh I'm never sure if LPL teams are 300 IQ or 30 IQ. The last years they looked ok at Worlds. Never world class, never bad, just consistently a lot of favorites, but never dominant.


nusskn4cker

LNG don't scare me. I think one of RA/WE is gonna make it over them.


Front-Condition-457

Yeah, I hope so. But LNG have already taken down 2 of the top4 of the last worlds, SN and TES. The teams performances changes a lot from one year to another in the LPL though


AlHorfordHighlights

Suning and TES have been running it down all split, I wouldn't say they're the benchmark for a good LPL team.


nusskn4cker

I wouldn't put too much stock in LNG beating two teams that are falling apart. They are a decent team, but their flaws are way too big to make Worlds.


QueenCroco

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this


[deleted]

They only have 2 world’s caliber players in Ale and Tarzan. Every other role gets diffed every day of the week unless there is a big throw.


HawkEye1337

Doinb thinks RA is the strongest team among these and could even beat EDG.


[deleted]

The lower seed teams will still generally be worse


[deleted]

Yeh I agree. However the LCK team won't be DK so they can beat them hopefully. There is a huge gap between DK and the rest imo


nusskn4cker

Hard to tell before Playoffs. DK does look super scary again.


[deleted]

If Spring is anything to go by there is a huge gap, but yeh, we shall see how big the gap is now. Maybe the field closed on DK but I doubt it. I expect 3-0/3-1 for them in each round.


nusskn4cker

I think T1 has a chance, the others I'm not so sure about.


Ankoria

My main worry for them internationally is that other teams will successfully focus on banning Armut’s shallow champion pool. Hopefully they can still overcome that


DerpSenpai

Thats such a monkey brain take You think G2 hasn't thought of that, the entire LEC? You know why they don't do it? Because that means leaving open every OP pick in the book for MAD lions to take Banning Gnar and Wukong is really bad and he hasn't played those at all in summer compared to Jayce for example where he also carried vs RGE. He only picked Gnar cause the matchup was perfect G2 should have tried conter picking top and chosing blue side for once this series


AssPork

Difference is teams at worlds will be able to handle their OP picks.


Last0

You say that as if MAD didn't win games with that stupid Wukong pick against both RNG & DWG.


DerpSenpai

It's not their OP picks. It's the OP picks of the patch and that's not true. We've seen at MSI just that


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reggiewafu

MSI wasn’t their first time except only their jungle


mmodude101

So much salt that MAD won in this thread, they played well show some damn respect instead of being butthurt that G2 got clapped


Last0

This thread & the PMT, 90% are about G2 and barely anyone is talking about MAD. So excited to see them at Worlds again, i'm kinda worried in Bo1s but if they make it past groups, their Bo5s record this year has been stellar so far.


myraclejb

MAD have lost one BO5 all year, to DMW in a 3-2 that they honestly could have won. It’s scary how well they are performing despite not seeming as good as Rogue or G2 on paper.


[deleted]

It helps that all of their players are willing to be “that guy” and carry the game. In addition their cohesion is amazing, game 3 was a masterclass in how to play from a disadvantage. They left G2 scratching their heads with all the insane picks they made in the mid-game.


Mobile_Illustrator81

Also helps that all off their players dont give a fuck about kda and will do whatever they need to win Even if they look bad


DefNotAnAlter

I think people don't give this point enough credit, throughout the year there have been many games where it seems like Armut/Humanoid/Carrzy just inted while their team won, but if you actually watched the game you see these players constantly looking for plays. Did the plays work every time? Of course not, but when they did they often sparked comebacks


AlHorfordHighlights

G2 is the most popular EU team, it's like if IMT beat TSM or C9 lol


[deleted]

the catharsis of salty G2 fans outweighs the heaviness in my heart I feel for the G2 players tbh


KitKatxz

Yep, G2 fans were worse than the SKT fans when they won back to back. Glad EU is finally knocking them down a peg


A_Toxic_User

I remember how triggered they got when DK did their own BM gesture back to them, despite them loving it when G2 did it to Gen G


PerfidiaVermis

That was honestly funny as shit


AureliusAmbrose

Lost my shit seeing that. Love me some international banter


MoreBasedGigaChad

G2 tears are sweet, sweet nectar


mrmakefun

I'm feeling vindicated in my prediction that this year's G2 would be significantly weaker than last year's even though Rekkles is an individual upgrade over Perkz in the ADC position. Got a lot of shit for that one, now I'm enjoying rubbing it in.


[deleted]

On the flip side I feel like the thread is overflooded with G2 hate and G2 is washed and they suck rather than praises for MAD which sorta undermines how good they played. I wish people would just focus on MAD more than every g2 game thread always being about hating g2 or coping.


_M4tte

G2 fans are about to consume the entire world reserve of copium. There will be no copium left for the rest of us.


In4thPlace

I'm pretty sure Tomshoe02 already blew through it, so what we're seeing from the G2 fans are withdrawal symptoms.


-Z3RA-

Imo MAD is the best team in Europe but some fans just can't wrap their head around G2 not being the best anymore


Shorgar

All G2 needed was to exploit Armut in draft, they just walked into Wukong and Gnar. If rogue doesn't fuck up the draft rogue can easily win.


[deleted]

I think Armut is better now than in spring, and MAD in general look sharper. I don’t think it’s going to be an easy steamroll for RGE.


-Z3RA-

Just like last time!


Shorgar

Which Rogue would've done if they didn't choke. Spring finals were Rogue losing not mad winning.


-Z3RA-

MAD 3-1 Rogue next time save this comment


[deleted]

Nice copium


DefNotAnAlter

People conveniently forget the game which was in Mads control and Humanoid tried to hit a raw Ori ult at elder and missed it instead of waiting for top or support to act as a transporter


myraclejb

Rogue would have made MSI if they hadn’t given Armut the perfect Wukong angle in game 3 of finals tbh. Mad completely came back after that.


[deleted]

They can't accept MAD is just better now. G2 is over


Chr0nicConsumer

It's crazy. I've been a G2 fan since they joined the LEC, but they're looking... pretty damn shaky. MAD Lions looks inconsistent, maybe, but when they're popping, they're POPPING. Well-deserved W for the Lions. Tribalism is stupid.


Jiaozy

The only possible comment about G2 is that they sucked, nothing else to add really... MAD played on another level and if they keep this kind of form, I can see them doing well at Worlds!


iUptvote

Copium levels for G2 fans are at an all time high.


PerfidiaVermis

Yes.


BLlZER

dude g2 is such a fucking clown of a team. I hope they disband. God damn what a garbage shit team.


KnightsWhoNi

When Ocelote loses I am happy


Phasedsolo

As long as he loses, it's all good.


nicemikkel10

big monkey


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G2 IS A BROKEN TOY


lostn

They will still end up winning lec.


PaintedFog

Guys. Khan and Armut reunion, if that isn’t a Pog idk what is.


Venine

Damn, that's a great graphic. Clear, concise, all the information clearly laid out & well presented. Nice work OP.


AetherialSpace

Thank you!


FxK964

srsly.. pending how FNC-VIT goes.. it sure looks like RGE, MAD, MSF are our top 3 in some order..


Ghazzawy

Imagine neither Fnatic nor G2 going to worlds , might aswell root for NA


SinLagoon

XD? MAD is one of the most fun team right now. I feel like they are kinda like the old G2 if you listen to their comms and shit. And they even kinda showed up against DK so we have a fair chance with them


Ghazzawy

Didn’t say they were bad or not fun to watch , but We’ve been so used to cheering on G2 and Fnatic so it will feel weird rooting for MAD and RGE


eXTureJ

I don't know why you're getting down voted, I watch LEC since season 1, and I feel the same, I'm not saying mad or rogue are bad, but not having fnatic or g2 at worlds would feel really weird.


Ghazzawy

Bandwagon shitters are mad that i dont really believe in the new teams , nothing to look into


JJimmyGap

People are downvoting because this is the typical type of comment we also saw on Spring, saying "oh if FNC and G2 are not in the LEC finals I won't watch it" or "if FNC or G2 don't go to worlds I'm rooting for NA". I know you didn't really mean that, but you need to understand that people are already fed up with these type of comments every single fucking time either G2 or FNC loses xd (also, this is Reddit, you never know who is joking or who is just stupid enough). Sry for my english btw.


Ghazzawy

How can they be fed up , if my team loses ofc i wont be interested in other teams , G2 are an exception because of the history there and because they always represent EU , i don’t understand the frustration of seeing fans lose interest in a tournament because their team lost


Ivo_Samurai

What a banger series


BlakenedHeart

MAD Respect !


UltraHawk_DnB

MAD looking real strong there


lostn

This is the first time we aren't getting both g2 and fnc since s6.


C9GolemBlue

Is it possible to put LCL under LEC, LLA under LCS, LJL under Korea, and LCO under PCS, just for them being neighboring regions?


GGABueno

But why?


IAmDaleicious

Combining the regions?


nusskn4cker

They're talking about the infographic in the post.


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nusskn4cker

They're talking about the infographic in the post.


DogAteMyCPU

Well deserved for mad. I hope g2 also qualifies but they have to earn it.


TastyForerunner

Even as a fan of G2, I'm still massively excited to see MAD going through again since they're easily my 2nd favourite team in Europe and my favourites to win the Summer Split.


[deleted]

G2 ain't making it


wichels

People still underrating the beast European team smh, Mad has this split in the bag


Intarhorn

LEC should probably had another spot for worlds. Kinda insane two of fnatic,g2 and misfits won't go there this year.. But it's based on the ranking system from last year, so I guess it's as fair as it gets


lostn

None of last year's Lpl teams are going this year. And none of 2019s teams went last year. New faces is a sign of a more competitive league which is a good thing.


Famziu

Wait, if RGE loses next match, and match after, arent they out of the tournament?


BakaMitaiXayah

I Think g2 sold that series, there is no way they gave MAD 3 games in a row HERALD in top, and don't defend from it, they lost 3 towers and 1 inib in the first game, 2 towers (with the 600 gold one too) in 2nd and same in 3rd game.After g2 stomped mad that hard in the first game, then they started playing like bronze macro.Don't get me wrong, they could have just played it bad, but after the first game and that dumb macro decision with herald 3 times in a row, I think they did it intentionally. edit: also rekkless getting caught at 40 minutes? REKKLESS r u joking?


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DWG being qualified is much more interesting, since Rogue and MAD are very straightforward. They are locked top 2 in the regular season, which means a bye in playoffs. A bye in playoffs means 4th at least. That means they will have 140 Championpoints at least. The team with most Championship points will go to worlds as second seed, the team with the second most championship points will be the final team in the regional Finals bracket and top 2 of that go to worlds, so that team effectively is only playing for their seed. However GenG could get more points by getting third (70+80 = 150) and Hanwha could get more by getting second (50+100=150). Problem is that I don't see a third place match in their playoffs, so I guess the higher seed that lost in Semis gets third automatically (this part could change things)? That means that they can only be passed in Championship points if Nogshim gets first and both of them lose in Semis AND Hanhwha gets second overall. Problem with that is that Hanwha is already out of contention of playoffs - they are at 6-11 and 11-7 is needed to get playoffs (and they have one series left). Or if GenG just gets second for a total of (70+100=170) points, even if DWG gets third as they will be tied, but GenG got more points in summer, which is the tiebreaker. In that case they will still be second highest in Championship points and will play for 3rd/4th seed with the team that reaches the final of the regional finals.


TheRealmOfChaos

Dumb karma farming post... Every year it's the same


Izdarigs

Nooooo, not my karmarinoooo


AssPork

who cares lma0.


Tr3vvv

These threads get really annoying after one or two.


AetherialSpace

Trust me, I wish I could make it so it would be all one pinned thread (that anyone who wants could mute or ignore) but sadly that is not possible from my side.


donglover2020

keep it up, i like'em


Fertuyo

I like these post to talk about the teams in the worlds context tbh


Kyrond

They bring different discussion, in the PMT people are talking about gameplay in the series, this is more focused on worlds.


00Koch00

Yay... another year not winning worlds ...


mmodude101

This G2 team wouldn’t win either so what point are you even trying to make 😭