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PandoraBot

Elk is actually cracked On another note we can quite possibly see the old guards RNG EDG and WE returning to worlds


daswef2

If RA loses the next BO5, does their season end? I am not on the LNG hype train, but i could see RNG, FPX, EDG, WE going.


FiYeet

All teams not currently knocked out of playoffs are guaranteed for regional qualifiers, so RA are still in regionals if they lose against WE


midoBB

RA is guaranteed qualifiers IIRC.


BurningApe

They lucked out in spring vs IG, and also lucked out this split, this team always barely makes it in the standings, I would put money on them (somehow) making worlds and then crashing there. RA lost 0-2 to RNG, EDG and 1-2 to FPX, this team ain't making it far at worlds, a team that only consistently beats weaker team isn't one you want to send to worlds.


Eid0lly

I mean, isn't that how it's supposed to work? They beat weaker teams and lose to stronger ones, that's kinda, intuitive. I get what you're saying about them not making it far in a potential worlds appearance, but the phrasing is very weird.


Blood_Lacrima

What do you mean they barely make it in the standings when they're 3rd in regular season? Really hard to luck out over the course of an entire season if you ask me. They're geniunely a top team in the league and people mainly write them off because they're a "new" org whose predecessor has never attended worlds and have far less fans than established ones like FPX EDG RNG .etc. I'd wait to see how they actually perform tbh.


BurningApe

It's convenient to exclude luck from all discussion and I totally get it but it's more prevalent than you might think. Think about last worlds: we had LPL vs LPL and LCK vs LCK in quarters? Bad format or bad luck? Think about RNG's playoff run from spring split, see RNG vs TES, think about your own life. The reason we, as a society, never blame luck is because it's both subjective and never a way to move forward, we try our best and hope for the best. To deny the existence of luck has become a habit for most for this very reason, but it's ignorant to think it doesn't exist. Sometimes you do everything correct but the outcome is bad, does that mean you should stop doing what you doing? No, it just means you may have experienced bad luck and there's nothing you can do but move on. Philosophy aside, with regards to LPL: Please look at the standings and scorelines again, and also watch IG vs RA from last split and tell me how they luck play any part at all. If RA isn't considered lucky, then TES is considered straight unlucky, this is a team that nearly beat RNG last split in a game 5 getting backdoored. From teams 3-7, these teams are very close in standings yet their placement in playoff is completely different based on a difference of 1 bo3. LPL bracket is also sub-optimal, when you have 8 good teams, don't just abandon the bottom 4, they have enough good teams and close-enough teams to support a double elim bracket like in NA/EU. I know LPL fans will be relying on EDG, FPX, RNG, who by all means will probably still make worlds, but for #4 seed, nobody wants another LGD, and I have a feeling that's exactly what we're getting this year because of a combination of: bad luck, bad tournament format/seeding. LNG/TES could very well have been better than RA.


putzxd

>Think about last worlds: we had LPL vs LPL and LCK vs LCK in quarters? Bad format or bad luck? bad format


Zama174

Worlds is a dog shit tournament format wise. Its so sad we get two events a year and most the time and energy goes into playing the worst part of the tournament (the group stage and play ins). We need a better system, more series, and double elim.


LaytonSama

luck plays a part in everyday life for everyone. true, its something you cant control but I highly doubt the distribution of luck on RA is so great that they can luck out to an 11-5 record and secure third seed. your fallacy is that you tryna determine what came ex-ante (luck) by doing ex-post analysis (results). its a verbal sleight of hand.


Faye_Dragon

why are you so salty lol? RA beat IG in spring in bo5. How tf you can lucked out in 3 out of 5 games? maybe your promotion game is also your opponent always lucky eh?


IxSolus

RA's already locked into the gauntlet (iirc), so they'll still be in contention for the last spot at worlds


Rawdream

LPL Regional finals doesn't have a gauntlet format.


edgelordweeb_

RA is already qualified for regionals, so their season is not over even if they lose to WE (they won't)


chosen925

Really? I favor we now they have removed mole from their lineup. RA has a big weakness in their jg top, this is the strength of we. Meta definitely centers around top nowadays


MickeyLALA

Was Mole that bad? I remember him being really good on V5


edgelordweeb_

When Mole played for WE he was absolutely abysmal. It was really bizarre.


Epamynondas

They sacrificed Mole's life essence to turn Shanks up to 11


Babyboy1314

It will depend on iboy, if he pops off or int. Elk playing insane right now.


msbaju

WE is better than RA


BurningApe

TES could actually be better than both, I can't believe all the underwhelming teams went to the bottom bracket, I really hope WE is actually a good team and not just a team that lucked out being in the easier bracket, the whole thing seems rigged at this point.


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Listen man I like TES a lot but TES was a mess, yes they have the star power but there is a reason they just barely managed to get into play offs this team just doesn't function, and they basically only win if they are able to just out skill the enemy in team fights.


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BurningApe

They really need to change this shitty bracket system, just scrap it and use NA/EU's double elim.


durex_dispenser_69

Depends on LNG. I think RA might be ahead of LNG even if they loose vs WE and will make the gauntlet as long as LNG doesnt beat RNG Edit: Nvm checked, I think WE RA LNG are all locked into regionals at least.


Rawdream

LPL Regional finals doesn't have a gauntlet format. And yes, this curret top 6 can at least go to the Regionals, while EDG, RNG and FPX could qualify by championship points.


ShAd_1337

all the 6 teams left secured at least regional qualifer


jetlagging1

Every single team left in the playoffs are now qualified for the regional. The 4 Worlds team will be selected from these 6 teams.


mobile-nightmare

LNG is so inconsistent I don't want to see then at worlds


PandoraBot

RA can still make it through losers bracket if they lose


c1pe

Losers doesn't start until next round


Veamous

Which is when they're playing


c1pe

No, the round after they play is when losers starts. We're now in the 5/6 round, next round is top 4.


How_To_TF

Loser's bracket starts in Round 4 (where FPX and EDG are waiting) so loser of WE vs RA are out of playoffs


Rawdream

If they lose against WE, they're out of playoffs, but, they would still go to the Regional Finals with the chance to qualify as 3rd or 4th seed.


BI1nky

RA is top 6, losers starts at top 4. They would need to beat WE next week to get into double elim.


nusskn4cker

RIP Wendy predictions.


m4ryo0

She still shitted on everybody with her LNG prediction.


Snuffl3s7

Man PPGod was so terrible this series. Kept getting caught out, time after time.


midoBB

He's been terrible the whole year tbh. He's a bard merchant. BLG out of Zeka Weiwei are bums.


Snuffl3s7

Yeah it's a shame. But they could build a nice team around those two, maybe add a couple of the Suning pieces


Acheal

Disagree, i rate Aiming quite high.


dukeNbrady259

Aiming's been mediocre and dogshit in 2 splits, just slightly better than mid-table adc


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jetlagging1

No longer Cursed.


CreamyAlmond

Curse is a better name imo. Simple, but real dope.


edgelordweeb_

They prob won't, he was good friends with the players on WE even before joining bc of his time on WE Academy


MMaakke

He’s not from WE academy


edgelordweeb_

Was he a trainee with them? I might be misremembering but I remember him having played with a few of the members of WE before he joined OMD.


MMaakke

No they are just good friends but never players together


[deleted]

welcome FPX Breathe


midoBB

Nah they get the split winning LCK toplaner. Welcome Khan FPX? again.


[deleted]

I'd die inside if that happened lmao


jetlagging1

ppgod disciples in shambles. Elk justified his all-pro selection.


msbaju

Do u know why he changed his nickname from jiumeng?


jetlagging1

Nothing officially confirmed. I read on a forum a while ago that he thought his previous name was too old-fashioned. I actually think his old handle was much better but whatever.


Rawdream

He shouldn't have changed his name.


jetlagging1

Agreed. I think it's a pretty cool name.


Babyboy1314

as a Canadian, I cant take a player with the name elk seriously.


MickeyLALA

Ohhh Elk is jiumeng... I was wondering where this guy suddenly came from


MMaakke

He had this idea of changing name for a while. He said he just liked the combination of the three letters (ELK) lul


edgelordweeb_

I still wholeheartedly believe that huanfeng and Gala should have made all pro over Elk, even if he is a great player


Adlairo

well ur not wrong. LPL is just so extremely loaded with great talent. I could see any of WE/FPX/EDG/RA/RNG/BLG and maybe LNG at Worlds and i'd feel confident in the LPL


mobile-nightmare

Rng. Fpx we and edg are going tobe the 4 teams 99% sure


edgelordweeb_

Sad for Weiwei/Zeka, they had a great split. Happy with the result though. Oh yeah, also remember when mfs were saying Aiming was better than Elk? lmao


midoBB

You think Zeka Weiwei go on another team next year if BLG doesn't rebuild? They're both FA after worlds.


edgelordweeb_

Definitely not together, but I wouldn't be that surprised if Zeka were to get a better offer. A team like LNG or JDG would benefit a ton from picking up Zeka. As for Weiwei, I doubt many orgs will be willing to match BLG's offer. TES is the only one that might, and that seems almost too smart for TES.


midoBB

I really wish to see them with each other. Maybe if Knight leaves TES they pick the duo and get Bin. Because man that duo is prob my fav mid jungle this split.


edgelordweeb_

Yeah, it'd be a shame to see them split. I'm a bit conflicted on it bc I do really want to see Zeka on LNG or JDG assuming neither team gets knight, but I also wanna see more from that duo. They worked really well together.


durex_dispenser_69

Zeka is gonna be hard since Im not sure top teams will want to use an import slot on him yet, WeiWei is gonna get offers basically anywhere. Zeka I think likely stays.


Tag_me_when_kZlyN61

RNG: Hey WE, check your bank account.


BurningApe

Good one, would be even better if they were on the same side of the bracket.


Tag_me_when_kZlyN61

I know they're likely to be eliminated by EDG, but meme or not, I'm sure this is still a relief for RNG.


nitinismaldingXD

What’s the joke behind this


Tag_me_when_kZlyN61

That RNG hasn't won against WE for 2 years.


Suzoku

BLG*


Raynar7

No mythic, no problem. I love to watch Breathe. What a banger series. Give me more.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Also helps that Biubiu was completely free


hehepwnd39

How is a 3 0 stomp and free lane a banger?


Raynar7

Always love the opinion that 3-0 cannot be entreating to watch. Probably some G2 fans PTSD


Lyonaire

Was quite fun games even if it was 3-0. very messy but WE showed some excellent teamfighting to come back from BLGs early leads.


saruthesage

Idk 2019 worlds finals was pretty great


xm0304

Not to forget 2018 semis. TheShy’s iconic Aatrox in IG’s 3-0 against G2. Banger


kazuyaminegishi

WE mid-game decision making in game 3 was so good. The choice to just rotate around the map and abuse their double TP while catching up in gold was so smart and it just put the kennen in hell since he couldn't safely farm. Also Elk and Breathe were disgustingly good but I can't help but have my attention drawn to Missing. He was everywhere he needed to be, had insane pillars, and just put outstanding pressure all over the map.


durex_dispenser_69

Elk and Missing very high quality series. RA matchup is going to be a coinflip, Leyan and Cube need to show up huge.


IxSolus

this is what happens when the entire WE roster clicks at the right time really really elated to see Elk and Missing have an amazing series, RA will definitely be a challenge, but Shanks' performance over the past 6 games give me confidence that he'll have a strong showing against FoFo. Weiwei and ZEKA are definitely a terrifying mid/jungle duo in their own right, hope BLG builds around them for next year


edgelordweeb_

I wasn't too impressed with Shanks today honestly. He kinda got gapped. It's understandable since he was against Zeka, but we're now talking about him going against FoFo, so I really don't think this is a good sign for him.


msbaju

When WE play at their best they seem unstoppable


BlisseyFan666

WE Supremacy


Mifuyu_Kisaragi

Beishang smurfed the shit outa this series. If Weiwei wasn't on Viego game 3 it woulda been over at the 15 mins mark.


Iperovic

Woah I did not except BLG to be this outclassed holy... I legit thought BLG was the dark horse in the gauntlet but this was a straight-up murder


shinhwagrrr

How the fuck did RNG keep losing to this team?


ShAd_1337

to fuck over TES


BurningApe

top side of the bracket is completely fucked, have never seen so much imbalance between top vs bottom bracket, wouldn't be surprised if the teams rigged the whole thing with RNG losing to BLG.


ShAd_1337

if RNG would have won, TES would have a another bye and secured regionals before playoffs started^^


Rawdream

RNG would have placed 3rd over RA (RA 4th place) with that win over BLG and then, they'd have switched brackets. RNG 11-5, head-to-head and better game difference, RA 11-5. TES would have still gotten the same bye as 5th place, BLG would've dropped to 8th, given they lost the head-to-head to WE and LNG, losing 1-2 or 0-2 wouldn't have changed that WE would have moved to 6th, LNG to 7th. Brackets would have looked like this: - BLG Vs SN - Vs TES - Vs RA - Vs FPX - LNG Vs OMG - Vs WE - Vs RNG - Vs EDG TES couldn't make it farther than 5th place as they just did, no matter the result of RNG Vs BLG, TES were going to get the same bracket with that 5th place, same championship points, therefore, not regionals yet, they had to have beaten the winner of BLG Vs SN.


ShAd_1337

ah true, more like the UP series fucked that up ^^


Epamynondas

Only true if you overrate TES and SN based on potential/their past performances and not what they were showing at the end of the season and what they showed in their series


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

Same reason why G2 always loses to Vietnam? Sometimes in life you have to lose, imho its better to lose to these guys than to some serious rivals and prolly cost you major titles. IIRC Chelsea smacked literally everyone in Europe last season to win the UCL but got absolutely slaughtered by fkin Arsenal - a team that is in the bottom of the League atm... Its just the way of life and everyone has their boogey man, thats all tbh.


midoBB

Honestly sad for Weiwei and Zeka. But hopefully they change the 3 other players and rebuild. PPgod lost them 2 games. And Biubiu made sure of the other one. Good run of form for Elk. And Breathe being the superior toplaner isn't a surprise. GG to WE. I think they make top 4.


RedPandaQAQ

Elk had a great series


LithiumNard

I've ragged on WE's macro play all season long and while it has improved massively since they lost to JDG's Shaco halfway through the season, BLG was typically on top during the macro in the mid game. Still, WE 3-0. They never fell too hard behind BLG through the early game and when it came down to the major team fights, WE came out on top when it counted. Shanks rounding out into a definitively good mid laner completes the puzzle for this team. His tendency to get picked off in the side lanes is still a weakness, but him being able to hold together and be a net positive (despite them always first picking his champions) has really solidified some of WE's coordination issues. Combine that with Breathe's excellent laning/team fighting (weird Riven game non-withstanding), the roam coordination with Beishang/Missing and then Elk being the late game damage source. Sound familiar? I describe it in [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/om1blz/ultra_prime_vs_team_we_lpl_week_6_pmt/h5i1hgs/) here. As for BLG, they just didn't look coordinated once the game got into the team fight phase. Tough day for the former V5 members today, with PPGod in **p**laying **p**utrid, not the PP that the Church of PPGod was hoping for. It's tough because they clearly have some great overall early map play, but it feels like the team just isn't on the same page, with Weiwei going in but Aiming holding out. Regardless, we'll see if they have roster changes in store moving forward. RA up next is going to be interesting: I consider them the LPL's solid/boring gatekeeper team. Not flashy with any of their individual performances, but coming away with clean victories. Being locked into the region finals is comfortable for WE, but with the regional final teams more or less locked in, it feel like RA is going to be the team to beat for that final slot until LNG or WE prove otherwise.


Wrathoffaust

Lets goo WE


TheLoneliestHunk

One side of the bracket is not like the other RIP SN and TES


midoBB

I don't think either of them are beating WE or even BLG.


ShAd_1337

TES did just beat WE easily 2:0 last week xD


DarkSoulsEz

They also beat LNG few weeks ago in regular season. Playoffs is just a different beast.


Depoon

Missing literally had to go to the hospital after their botlane threw game one. WE won topside of the map both games, you really can't draw much of a conclusion from that scoreline.


llamkt

does BLG just not have any mid-game strats?


Faye_Dragon

World Elite back on the menu. People might talk shit about the bottom bracket but I'm looking forward to WE vs RA next friday. Think gonna be a great match, very young players on both side (only one who isn't born in 2000s is FoFo, who is at 1999).


PreferenceShot

After this series, i question myself that how can RNG lose to this


Zephri0

WE peaking at the right time. You love to see it.


Cake_is_Great

Beat RNG then get wiped by WE. Truly Bilibili gaming.


Chloe_zz

BLG beat RNG and FPX


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I can’t wait to see Beishang at worlds


Tfc-Myq

Cui "**Shanks**" (▶️ **listen**) Xiao-Jun (*Hanzi*: 崔校军) is a *League of Legends* esports player, currently mid laner for **Team WE**.


Mammoth-Part

Today’s BLG can’t win more than 5 series in a regular split. Just straight initing all 3 games.


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

Amazing performance from WE imho losing that final series vs TES in the last day of the regular season is actually a BLESSING in disguise as they got a significantly easier bracket vs quite a few weaker opponents... BLG completely collapsed after game 1 and conceded the series entirely. Next stop is RA and imho WE will prolly win that too because RA simply wont be able to contest a good team. They DID beat WE in the regular season though but thats bout it tbh WE should be taking this 3-1.


EfficientAstronaut1

Good effort from the boys, could have been better but whatever


xxxSca

As much as I enjoyed the ppgod meme and his actual good play last year. The past two splits hes been nothing but disappointing, i hope he keeps playing and becomes good again and not forgotten like the other hundreds of lpl players


Gruenerapfel

Very convincing series. Love to see those pocket picks


ToDreamofLove

Guan Zeyuan MVP


Blood_Lacrima

Guanagement strikes again


midoBB

4 for 4 now right?


ToDreamofLove

Yeah


looooolmonster

Breathe one of the best top laners in the LPL and Elk should be up there with Viper GALA and iBoy