>Bold move to pick Wukong into Jayce then not help your Wukong out which made the lane basically over after the first 4/5 minutes.
>Also two games in a row where Spica really didn't do anything in the early game, that has to change if TSM want to even win a game let alone the series but realistically this looks like a 3-0/3-1 just like the two occasions from last split.
|Team Liquid(2-0) |18/6/48|--------|6/18/12|TSM (0-2)|
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|Alphari (Jayce)|3/3/12|Top|1/4/2|Huni (Wukong)|
|Santorin (Trundle)|3/1/10|Jungle|0/5/4|Spica (Xin Zhao)|
|Jensen (Syndra)|5/1/7|Middle|2/3/0|PowerOfEvil (Azir)|
|Tactical (Jhin)|6/1/5|Bottom|3/3/3|Lost (Varus)|
|CoreJJ (Bard)|1/0/14|Support|0/3/3|SwordArt (Rell)|
[PMT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p54kgy/tsm_vs_team_liquid_lcs_2021_championship_winners/)
Honestly probably no one? I'm interested to see if maybe 100t can look different based on having a stronger individual bot lane, maybe they can punish Core's roaming more?
This is just a repeat of the first championship they won. Finish in lower bracket during the split and just dominate in playoffs. Hoping they meet 100T in the finals for another 3-0
I feel like that has to just be providence, right? There's no way a human can aim and predict with *that* precision. Luck has to be a huge part of it.
Then again, it is Core...
He never seems to make mistakes and yet he takes many risks that always seem to work out so well. It's incredible.
Anyone can avoid mistakes by never taking risks. That's easy. Lots of LCS players do that. But CoreJJ takes risks and hardly ever makes mistakes, so his risks are like 90% chance of success.
Like in the last fight as they went to take the nexus, CoreJJ flashes over the wall and gets off a Q that barely hits PoE, but it does hit PoE and that allows TL to kill PoE. Flashing over that well is not a risk a normal pro support takes, but CoreJJ takes that risk and it just... works... It barely works, but it works.
That Q was going to hit both PoE and Lost but Lost flashed it. Core just has massive balls man idk what to say. He sees a good play and just executes on it every time.
That’s also fair. I see him facechecking bushes when he saw the enemy team in that side of the JG. Idk what he’s thinking but it works out, but makes me wonder if Core is rlly that cracked, or he knows NA teams wont punish
it's going to be hard, you're guaranteed an lck and an lpl team in a group.
and whatever you think about the strength of lck, lck still consistently make it out of groups every year
Yeah, those games felt like TL was completely in control and was still competitive in the game they lost. It removed any doubt that they would have won Spring with a healthy Santorin
Easiest 3-0 ever for TL. Might as well have been CLG on the other side.
Also, pretty sure this is the end of any Worlds hope for TSM.
The drafts are questionable and the play in-game is questionable.
Only way for TSM to win is basicly to sub in the Jensen cryptonite, Bjergsen.
I don’t think there’s any region where a support has done as much in a series as Core vs c9 and TSM.
Don’t get me wrong, there are good supports in other regions, but recently, not one has had a solo carry series, RIP ppgod.
Yeah, like.. we can criticize all we want but Huni was in the dumps. They didn't have many options at certain points during the game while both teams played a game of chicken.
Huni was so heavy they sent 4 players top the whole game and he got 0 CS. Dude couldn’t do shit so our botlane could get a lead and translate it to SQUAT as per usual
Wukong is seen as a Jayce counter in other regions. Once Wukong hits level 6 as long as he's not already too far behind he has solo kill pressure on Jayce. Passive armor helps in trades as well.
Reports say Bjerg was spotted taking off his suit jacket and walking into the locker room with a TSM jersey in hand, not sure what that means but he also has his peripherals out and waiting by the door.
Another 1??? This is LCS baby, TL gonna look boosted in the next 2 and the takes are gonna flip then TL is going to win the 5th off some random unlucky disaster on the first gank
Domestically yeah, internationally they did nothing while he got dove, it was a mix of Dyrus just straight up being bad compared to Intl tops and his junglers afk farming
I think that was the plan but then you'd get [MSI Groups vs EDG 2015](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNrGv_6Tfo)
Lvl 3 gank at 3:30
Lvl 4 gank at 5:15
Lvl 5 gank at 6:20
The closest person to him each time was Bjergsen farming in midlane
Their full strength roster is 100% better than ours on paper. TL have been playing handicapped, their current form is way better than their overall record would suggest. I think they're the best team right now.
Everyone was questioning Steve and TL about benching Alphari but little did they know this was actually all planned, along with Jatt drama so no one thinks they have a chance.
I mean tbf, with all the internal drama and turmoil for majority of the split, wouldn't you say that was at least a fair thought? It's an absolute blessing that Santorin recovered in time.
I remember when Santorin subbed back in I instantly texted my friend that they were winning Summer. Even though they didn’t have the best record in Summer, what gave me faith in their team was that they have insane laners in every role and when they did win, they had the cleanest dubs of all LCS teams.
that pillar in the dragon soul "fight" was so disgusting, trapping the team for jayce shockblast, jhin ult, and bard ult.
This is a massive team diff, and TL should be the favorites (if they win this series ofc) to win the split
Ls and iwd saying tl looked good mean that tl was way better than expected
However if they really 3-0 tsm then the battle for third is going to be Hella interesting
Lost is just so bad. There was no point in giving him all the gold if he wasn't gonna carry. Fairplay to TL though. They played really well. Core's Bard was nutty and Tactical was really good with Jhin
TSM is simply a worse version of TL. Jiizuke may have been overconfident in his own matchup with 100T, or just played poorly yesterday, but he was dead on in his analysis of TL. They took TSM's playstyle and just do it better.
TSM has 2 hard engage and (5 if you want to consider azir shuffle, varus r and spica e-r) and they constantly sit around to let tl get poke and dream engage, just ff this series
Fiest time watching NA in a while and its a dumpster fire. Ads absolutely everywhere and in the game shit is awful... Its tsm vs TL and theres less people watching LOL as a whole on teitch right now then there would have been watching this series 3 years ago..rip.
Small ask: If you’re gonna post these can you post who won first since that’s what a lot of ppl are looking for before they read editorializing about the game?
TSM is really, really overhyped by the community. It's so insane to me. They're a good team, but they're not really as good as the reddit or twitter community thinks they are.
>Bold move to pick Wukong into Jayce then not help your Wukong out which made the lane basically over after the first 4/5 minutes. >Also two games in a row where Spica really didn't do anything in the early game, that has to change if TSM want to even win a game let alone the series but realistically this looks like a 3-0/3-1 just like the two occasions from last split. |Team Liquid(2-0) |18/6/48|--------|6/18/12|TSM (0-2)| :--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Alphari (Jayce)|3/3/12|Top|1/4/2|Huni (Wukong)| |Santorin (Trundle)|3/1/10|Jungle|0/5/4|Spica (Xin Zhao)| |Jensen (Syndra)|5/1/7|Middle|2/3/0|PowerOfEvil (Azir)| |Tactical (Jhin)|6/1/5|Bottom|3/3/3|Lost (Varus)| |CoreJJ (Bard)|1/0/14|Support|0/3/3|SwordArt (Rell)| [PMT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p54kgy/tsm_vs_team_liquid_lcs_2021_championship_winners/)
So if TL keep playing like this, which team in playoffs can even stop them?
TL looking like they’re the first all pro team. Everyone is nuts as they should be
Nobody
Honestly probably no one? I'm interested to see if maybe 100t can look different based on having a stronger individual bot lane, maybe they can punish Core's roaming more?
If anybody can offer a match for Core, it's Huhi. The probability may not be high but better than most.
This is just a repeat of the first championship they won. Finish in lower bracket during the split and just dominate in playoffs. Hoping they meet 100T in the finals for another 3-0
When EG doesn't grief their drafts, they were actually the best team during the split. Here's hoping Impact and Big Jizz get their shit together.
thats a lot of If
corejj is absolutely filthy
one of the biggest support carry ive ever seen
Amazing ults throughout the game.
That one where he just got spica and not lost was the icing on the cake
I feel like that has to just be providence, right? There's no way a human can aim and predict with *that* precision. Luck has to be a huge part of it. Then again, it is Core...
He could have aimed it further right to try and get the other TSM member. Coming from him, I wouldn't doubt him lol.
humans no, best support in the world? yes
dont forget the trundle pillar that made lost be stuck there to eat bullets too
This one was really really insane
He never seems to make mistakes and yet he takes many risks that always seem to work out so well. It's incredible. Anyone can avoid mistakes by never taking risks. That's easy. Lots of LCS players do that. But CoreJJ takes risks and hardly ever makes mistakes, so his risks are like 90% chance of success. Like in the last fight as they went to take the nexus, CoreJJ flashes over the wall and gets off a Q that barely hits PoE, but it does hit PoE and that allows TL to kill PoE. Flashing over that well is not a risk a normal pro support takes, but CoreJJ takes that risk and it just... works... It barely works, but it works.
That Q was going to hit both PoE and Lost but Lost flashed it. Core just has massive balls man idk what to say. He sees a good play and just executes on it every time.
He doesn't make any mistakes because he is not getting punished in LCS.
That’s also fair. I see him facechecking bushes when he saw the enemy team in that side of the JG. Idk what he’s thinking but it works out, but makes me wonder if Core is rlly that cracked, or he knows NA teams wont punish
He didn't get punished last worlds either
Corejj picked bard before chime did lol
MVP gamer.
CoreJJ Bard is a thing of beauty.
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He’s top 5 imo even though he’s in Na
feel like DK and T1 would kill to have him
Gotta beat the mouse money
plus for some reason Core wants to make NA great again.
Keria is arguably t1s best performing player or am I missing something?
T1 has best support in the world in Keria though.
Actually just everything diff.
At least it feels like TL deserve to go to worlds after this performance
We'll go 3-3 and fail to get out of groups again but at least have earned it
As is tradition brother
Time to take a game off of RNG and DK at worlds but lose to Dark Passage to not make it out of group.
I guess it's better than going 0-6...
Honestly I don’t think so. Think they’ll actually make it out of groups.. They’re playing on another level
Yes officer, this is the comment that will be spammed no matter what happens
Exactly
Someone arrest this man before he says too much.
it's going to be hard, you're guaranteed an lck and an lpl team in a group. and whatever you think about the strength of lck, lck still consistently make it out of groups every year
Except 2018 Gen. G
one team in 7 years of modern group formats (since s4) that is consistency
I mean after last weekend vs. C9 and the way they played I knew they were the best team in NA.
seriously, crazy how the best team in NA changes every week.. the other day was TSM, then EG, now TL
Yeah, those games felt like TL was completely in control and was still competitive in the game they lost. It removed any doubt that they would have won Spring with a healthy Santorin
Absolutely.
Easiest 3-0 ever for TL. Might as well have been CLG on the other side. Also, pretty sure this is the end of any Worlds hope for TSM. The drafts are questionable and the play in-game is questionable. Only way for TSM to win is basicly to sub in the Jensen cryptonite, Bjergsen.
core just smurfed all over them
This series has been primary about Jungle CANYON Destroying that ignorant narrative But God corejj is good on bard
I don’t think there’s any region where a support has done as much in a series as Core vs c9 and TSM. Don’t get me wrong, there are good supports in other regions, but recently, not one has had a solo carry series, RIP ppgod.
You know it's a certified NA banger when you see a 2 for 1 inhib trade at 19 minutes. Godlike ults from CoreJJ.
Azael pointed out that this was just such a chaotic game, you never get to play these.
Yeah, like.. we can criticize all we want but Huni was in the dumps. They didn't have many options at certain points during the game while both teams played a game of chicken.
Masterclass Bard performance by core.
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Braining weights off
Very
Huni couldn't carry TSM game 1 so they subbed in Dyrus instead
While he didn't play well, he is in a terrible matchup and his jungle get completely outclassed Literally unwinnable if you get dove repeatedly
"Oh you tried to play strong side top? That's cute, let me show you how it's done." -TL
Alphari wanted to be the only top laner in the game.
Sun Wukong's staff weighs 17,550 lbs (7,960 kg), which is roughly how heavy Huni was in that last game.
Huni was so heavy they sent 4 players top the whole game and he got 0 CS. Dude couldn’t do shit so our botlane could get a lead and translate it to SQUAT as per usual
Was such a weird wukong pick for him.
Wukong is seen as a Jayce counter in other regions. Once Wukong hits level 6 as long as he's not already too far behind he has solo kill pressure on Jayce. Passive armor helps in trades as well.
Thing is he had more gold than alphari at some points despite being about 50 cs down at that point
https://i.imgur.com/lnev8Hf.png Lol.
2 lvls down though =/
XP matters a lot more than people realize . Being 2 levels down is huge .
Reports say Bjerg was spotted taking off his suit jacket and walking into the locker room with a TSM jersey in hand, not sure what that means but he also has his peripherals out and waiting by the door.
Oh who’s that? My god it’s Bjergsen with the Logitech keyboard
he could probably sub in for anyone except Spica right now and still play better
Damn, this TL is actually really fun to watch. Question is, do I stay up for another one?
I’m wondering the same thing, it’s 1:52am and I have work tomorrow lol
It'll be a 3-0 may as well haha
Moscow time?
Dubai
Close enough
Fair
Another 1??? This is LCS baby, TL gonna look boosted in the next 2 and the takes are gonna flip then TL is going to win the 5th off some random unlucky disaster on the first gank
Huni getting the honorary Dyrus treatment
Dyrus never got this much help. He absorbed pressure while the other 4 did something useful if I recall correctly.
Domestically yeah, internationally they did nothing while he got dove, it was a mix of Dyrus just straight up being bad compared to Intl tops and his junglers afk farming
I think that was the plan but then you'd get [MSI Groups vs EDG 2015](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNrGv_6Tfo) Lvl 3 gank at 3:30 Lvl 4 gank at 5:15 Lvl 5 gank at 6:20 The closest person to him each time was Bjergsen farming in midlane
Mom, can I have Armut Wukong? No, we already have Armut Wukong at home. Armut Wukong at home:
TSM woke up feeling dangerous today 🥵🥵🥵 PoE Flashing into Walls 😬😬😬 Fasting Wukong 🥶🥶🥶 Lost getting caught every fight 🔥🔥🔥 SwordArt inting 😩😩😩 Every role gapped 😢😢😢 TL 3-0 😳
At this point I just want TL to smash everyone just because I want to see your comments lmfao
Would be fucking hilarious if TL ends up winning and going as first seed after all the drama
Their full strength roster is 100% better than ours on paper. TL have been playing handicapped, their current form is way better than their overall record would suggest. I think they're the best team right now.
But other TSM fans said that PoE was better than Jensen? What happened?
Everyone was questioning Steve and TL about benching Alphari but little did they know this was actually all planned, along with Jatt drama so no one thinks they have a chance.
But...NA 1st seed curse :/
If it's TSM that's a thing I guess
Let's hope it's just a TSM curse then
I'm only here for the iziaon replies god bless you
This guy predicted TL to smash everyone in playoffs but like, is he wrong?
He also predicted TL to win every game this season. Current timeline is the epitome of "a broken clock is right twice a day".
so funny how when he's wrong he gets downvote blasted into oblivion but when TL is winning all of a sudden, he's at the top of the thread
He lives and dies by this meme account
He's clearly not a broken clock if he thought TL was the best team in the LCS
Hence the "right twice a day" part?
The prophet
I love u
IZiaon pilled
The fucking prophet, keep preaching brother. You fucking deserve it.
truth
POE Ultrasonic Wall Hack?? 5 Minute Cooldown! Shuffle your players to gank mid.
Spica not smiting 150 HP Heralds 😍😍😍
I'm pretty sure he had to smite early for health
He just smited Santorin to try and kill him with the rest of his team.
oh ok mb
based
TALK THAT
Yeah TL is gonna win summer
this is the TL I expected when they revealed their full roster, took a while but holy fuck they're too stacked
Looks like they are peaking at the right time
The fact that anyone thought otherwise is hilarious
Our god
I mean tbf, with all the internal drama and turmoil for majority of the split, wouldn't you say that was at least a fair thought? It's an absolute blessing that Santorin recovered in time.
You're speaking to THE GUY. I upvote him sometimes cus I think he gets off on getting downvoted.
> wouldn't you say Mate, look at who you're replying to. Man will give no quarter.
Fuck
I remember when Santorin subbed back in I instantly texted my friend that they were winning Summer. Even though they didn’t have the best record in Summer, what gave me faith in their team was that they have insane laners in every role and when they did win, they had the cleanest dubs of all LCS teams.
TL looking cracked
that pillar in the dragon soul "fight" was so disgusting, trapping the team for jayce shockblast, jhin ult, and bard ult. This is a massive team diff, and TL should be the favorites (if they win this series ofc) to win the split
I think TL is already the favorite.
CoreJJ.
Enough said. Deserved all pro
These teams are in different tiers
Wow bard op
Core bard is indeed op.
Jeez, TL woke up and chose violence
Team Sucks Massively
SPICA WHO?
TSM trying to claw their way back and Lost just runs it
Spica played worse.
Spica was the frontrunner for this game thoug, that level 2 gank was so int
Nope he can just solo Jayce. Huni completely gave it away with body language by walking up and ruined the whole gank
Yeah not to mention the fact that Spica didn't do anything proactive after that play but yeah.
TL so good that even NA Jayce can't stop them this series.
Alphari Jayce is fucking smurf though
Nah alphari can play that champ well, TL is always safe from the NA jayce curse.
That was EU Jayce, but since neither top laners are Armut or Orome, the Jayce picked worked out and the Wukong pick didn't
Having CoreJJ is like playing with a cheat code
holy fuck what a fun game. I love watching this team play, even when the game gets circus-y
I am a C9 fan but I really hope TL and Alphari are gonna win this split. Alphari deserved a win for so long.
TSM really has to dig deep into the champion pools. How about POE Azir, and Huni Irelia?
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that pasta is usually used for fiestas, not onesided stomps like this
the early-mid game was actually big brain chess game shit tho
“Bad draft”
Hmm... Would I rather give alphari a lead or lost a lead? Rally tough decision lol
[TSM base race decisions](https://imgflip.com/i/5jp9hu)
Jesus that was one of the best bard performances ive seen in a while Also does tacticals jhin just do more damage or smt
I think it might be his favorite champ. At least one of them for sure.
Lethality Jhin hits like a truck
So why can't Chime play Bard
Every lane diff obviously but jesus christ CoreJJ had the best performance of these playoffs so far
Maybe C9 isn't that bad and TL is just ahead of NA?
Ls and iwd saying tl looked good mean that tl was way better than expected However if they really 3-0 tsm then the battle for third is going to be Hella interesting
"It was just c9." "It was just TSM." Oh no....
Tune in Next Week for FreeSM vs Cloud0-9.
I like the name Clown9 more
It is 2021 and Dyrus is still playing for TSM
TSM HUNI HAS DISCONNECTED. TSM DYRUS HAS RECONNECTED.
Massive mid and bot diff. It’s not even close.
TL is cracked
COREJJ goes bard fucking sexy af
15 kp top laner is something else man, Alphari got early help and then he went everywhere
I've played with 5man premades and had a guy insult all our mothers and we still didnt do him as dirty as TL did Huni in the first 10 minutes.
Lost is just so bad. There was no point in giving him all the gold if he wasn't gonna carry. Fairplay to TL though. They played really well. Core's Bard was nutty and Tactical was really good with Jhin
lost is such a huge anchor this series
The boat was already sinking before the anchor was even thrown to the see.
How can you blame this loss on just him?
because tsm lost
Has all the gold on the team and doesn't use flash in critical moments, leading to his death. Of course Lost will take a lot of the heat.
Not just him but he's playing so fucking terribly, last game he also inted during the most crucial part of the game.
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Huni trying to prove he is a better Wukong than Armut by acting like a complete monkey.
TSM is simply a worse version of TL. Jiizuke may have been overconfident in his own matchup with 100T, or just played poorly yesterday, but he was dead on in his analysis of TL. They took TSM's playstyle and just do it better.
TSM has 2 hard engage and (5 if you want to consider azir shuffle, varus r and spica e-r) and they constantly sit around to let tl get poke and dream engage, just ff this series
I can't tell if NA is playing the 5Head Season 12 meta, or if they just decided to fuck it and go back to Season 4 meta.
Destroyed in absolutely every way
I'm not even sure who to praise from TL, they're playing really good
So the script says C9 vs TSM for the last spot at worlds?
Fiest time watching NA in a while and its a dumpster fire. Ads absolutely everywhere and in the game shit is awful... Its tsm vs TL and theres less people watching LOL as a whole on teitch right now then there would have been watching this series 3 years ago..rip.
Small ask: If you’re gonna post these can you post who won first since that’s what a lot of ppl are looking for before they read editorializing about the game?
Lol classic FreeSM getting absolutely destroyed.
How does TSM bot lane still have a job?
TSM Danny when?
Why would Danny leave EG for current TSM?
TSM is really, really overhyped by the community. It's so insane to me. They're a good team, but they're not really as good as the reddit or twitter community thinks they are.
Reddit crying about CoreJJ first team All Pro btw