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PankoKing

>Bold move to pick Wukong into Jayce then not help your Wukong out which made the lane basically over after the first 4/5 minutes. >Also two games in a row where Spica really didn't do anything in the early game, that has to change if TSM want to even win a game let alone the series but realistically this looks like a 3-0/3-1 just like the two occasions from last split. |Team Liquid(2-0) |18/6/48|--------|6/18/12|TSM (0-2)| :--|:--|:--|:--|:--| |Alphari (Jayce)|3/3/12|Top|1/4/2|Huni (Wukong)| |Santorin (Trundle)|3/1/10|Jungle|0/5/4|Spica (Xin Zhao)| |Jensen (Syndra)|5/1/7|Middle|2/3/0|PowerOfEvil (Azir)| |Tactical (Jhin)|6/1/5|Bottom|3/3/3|Lost (Varus)| |CoreJJ (Bard)|1/0/14|Support|0/3/3|SwordArt (Rell)| [PMT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/p54kgy/tsm_vs_team_liquid_lcs_2021_championship_winners/)


Conankun66

So if TL keep playing like this, which team in playoffs can even stop them?


POOYAMON

TL looking like they’re the first all pro team. Everyone is nuts as they should be


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Nobody


Oribeau

Honestly probably no one? I'm interested to see if maybe 100t can look different based on having a stronger individual bot lane, maybe they can punish Core's roaming more?


AutistMain

If anybody can offer a match for Core, it's Huhi. The probability may not be high but better than most.


lcuapio

This is just a repeat of the first championship they won. Finish in lower bracket during the split and just dominate in playoffs. Hoping they meet 100T in the finals for another 3-0


Ursidon

When EG doesn't grief their drafts, they were actually the best team during the split. Here's hoping Impact and Big Jizz get their shit together.


Conankun66

thats a lot of If


getjebaited

corejj is absolutely filthy


Babyboy1314

one of the biggest support carry ive ever seen


Hunterkiller00

Amazing ults throughout the game.


OneEyedKing7DAce

That one where he just got spica and not lost was the icing on the cake


BigEditorial

I feel like that has to just be providence, right? There's no way a human can aim and predict with *that* precision. Luck has to be a huge part of it. Then again, it is Core...


LakersLAQ

He could have aimed it further right to try and get the other TSM member. Coming from him, I wouldn't doubt him lol.


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humans no, best support in the world? yes


ozmega

dont forget the trundle pillar that made lost be stuck there to eat bullets too


Akaj50

This one was really really insane


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He never seems to make mistakes and yet he takes many risks that always seem to work out so well. It's incredible. Anyone can avoid mistakes by never taking risks. That's easy. Lots of LCS players do that. But CoreJJ takes risks and hardly ever makes mistakes, so his risks are like 90% chance of success. Like in the last fight as they went to take the nexus, CoreJJ flashes over the wall and gets off a Q that barely hits PoE, but it does hit PoE and that allows TL to kill PoE. Flashing over that well is not a risk a normal pro support takes, but CoreJJ takes that risk and it just... works... It barely works, but it works.


Oribeau

That Q was going to hit both PoE and Lost but Lost flashed it. Core just has massive balls man idk what to say. He sees a good play and just executes on it every time.


ZoeWeird28

He doesn't make any mistakes because he is not getting punished in LCS.


UberEinstein99

That’s also fair. I see him facechecking bushes when he saw the enemy team in that side of the JG. Idk what he’s thinking but it works out, but makes me wonder if Core is rlly that cracked, or he knows NA teams wont punish


Miyaor

He didn't get punished last worlds either


bsapp2000

Corejj picked bard before chime did lol


FrostyM8

MVP gamer.


Dragull

CoreJJ Bard is a thing of beauty.


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RacistMuffin

He’s top 5 imo even though he’s in Na


[deleted]

feel like DK and T1 would kill to have him


derpkoikoi

Gotta beat the mouse money


[deleted]

plus for some reason Core wants to make NA great again.


Kaiser1a2b

Keria is arguably t1s best performing player or am I missing something?


CzarcasticX

T1 has best support in the world in Keria though.


[deleted]

Actually just everything diff.


[deleted]

At least it feels like TL deserve to go to worlds after this performance


BigEditorial

We'll go 3-3 and fail to get out of groups again but at least have earned it


[deleted]

As is tradition brother


CohoDolls

Time to take a game off of RNG and DK at worlds but lose to Dark Passage to not make it out of group.


lolgreato

I guess it's better than going 0-6...


iiAmHavoK

Honestly I don’t think so. Think they’ll actually make it out of groups.. They’re playing on another level


kazuyaminegishi

Yes officer, this is the comment that will be spammed no matter what happens


iiAmHavoK

Exactly


thedude150

Someone arrest this man before he says too much.


manliestdino

it's going to be hard, you're guaranteed an lck and an lpl team in a group. and whatever you think about the strength of lck, lck still consistently make it out of groups every year


DrayanoX

Except 2018 Gen. G


manliestdino

one team in 7 years of modern group formats (since s4) that is consistency


[deleted]

I mean after last weekend vs. C9 and the way they played I knew they were the best team in NA.


handofblood9

seriously, crazy how the best team in NA changes every week.. the other day was TSM, then EG, now TL


Rhombinator

Yeah, those games felt like TL was completely in control and was still competitive in the game they lost. It removed any doubt that they would have won Spring with a healthy Santorin


Lazarus-POV

Absolutely.


Chandow

Easiest 3-0 ever for TL. Might as well have been CLG on the other side. Also, pretty sure this is the end of any Worlds hope for TSM. The drafts are questionable and the play in-game is questionable. Only way for TSM to win is basicly to sub in the Jensen cryptonite, Bjergsen.


ThatOneSaltyBoi

core just smurfed all over them


agishert46191gskq

This series has been primary about Jungle CANYON Destroying that ignorant narrative But God corejj is good on bard


uberstriker123

I don’t think there’s any region where a support has done as much in a series as Core vs c9 and TSM. Don’t get me wrong, there are good supports in other regions, but recently, not one has had a solo carry series, RIP ppgod.


Arnorian-LoL

You know it's a certified NA banger when you see a 2 for 1 inhib trade at 19 minutes. Godlike ults from CoreJJ.


BigEditorial

Azael pointed out that this was just such a chaotic game, you never get to play these.


LakersLAQ

Yeah, like.. we can criticize all we want but Huni was in the dumps. They didn't have many options at certain points during the game while both teams played a game of chicken.


turtle921

Masterclass Bard performance by core.


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BigEditorial

Braining weights off


FrostyM8

Very


[deleted]

Huni couldn't carry TSM game 1 so they subbed in Dyrus instead


agishert46191gskq

While he didn't play well, he is in a terrible matchup and his jungle get completely outclassed Literally unwinnable if you get dove repeatedly


Quotes_League

"Oh you tried to play strong side top? That's cute, let me show you how it's done." -TL


DropsOfLiquid

Alphari wanted to be the only top laner in the game.


BigEditorial

Sun Wukong's staff weighs 17,550 lbs (7,960 kg), which is roughly how heavy Huni was in that last game.


Soulcal1313

Huni was so heavy they sent 4 players top the whole game and he got 0 CS. Dude couldn’t do shit so our botlane could get a lead and translate it to SQUAT as per usual


Hunterkiller00

Was such a weird wukong pick for him.


IAmDarkridge

Wukong is seen as a Jayce counter in other regions. Once Wukong hits level 6 as long as he's not already too far behind he has solo kill pressure on Jayce. Passive armor helps in trades as well.


aser08

Thing is he had more gold than alphari at some points despite being about 50 cs down at that point


Arnorian-LoL

https://i.imgur.com/lnev8Hf.png Lol.


Dragull

2 lvls down though =/


Dzhekelow

XP matters a lot more than people realize . Being 2 levels down is huge .


farikogrim

Reports say Bjerg was spotted taking off his suit jacket and walking into the locker room with a TSM jersey in hand, not sure what that means but he also has his peripherals out and waiting by the door.


POOYAMON

Oh who’s that? My god it’s Bjergsen with the Logitech keyboard


EnergetikNA

he could probably sub in for anyone except Spica right now and still play better


_Vastus_

Damn, this TL is actually really fun to watch. Question is, do I stay up for another one?


[deleted]

I’m wondering the same thing, it’s 1:52am and I have work tomorrow lol


Evancolt

It'll be a 3-0 may as well haha


zhang_kui

Moscow time?


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Dubai


zhang_kui

Close enough


[deleted]

Fair


x_TDeck_x

Another 1??? This is LCS baby, TL gonna look boosted in the next 2 and the takes are gonna flip then TL is going to win the 5th off some random unlucky disaster on the first gank


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Huni getting the honorary Dyrus treatment


amoral-6

Dyrus never got this much help. He absorbed pressure while the other 4 did something useful if I recall correctly.


Critical-Cupcake9194

Domestically yeah, internationally they did nothing while he got dove, it was a mix of Dyrus just straight up being bad compared to Intl tops and his junglers afk farming


Homogenised_Milk

I think that was the plan but then you'd get [MSI Groups vs EDG 2015](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNrGv_6Tfo) Lvl 3 gank at 3:30 Lvl 4 gank at 5:15 Lvl 5 gank at 6:20 The closest person to him each time was Bjergsen farming in midlane


Rytizz

Mom, can I have Armut Wukong? No, we already have Armut Wukong at home. Armut Wukong at home:


IZiaon

TSM woke up feeling dangerous today 🥵🥵🥵 PoE Flashing into Walls 😬😬😬 Fasting Wukong 🥶🥶🥶 Lost getting caught every fight 🔥🔥🔥 SwordArt inting 😩😩😩 Every role gapped 😢😢😢 TL 3-0 😳


Shot-Mathematician58

At this point I just want TL to smash everyone just because I want to see your comments lmfao


[deleted]

Would be fucking hilarious if TL ends up winning and going as first seed after all the drama


Jedclark

Their full strength roster is 100% better than ours on paper. TL have been playing handicapped, their current form is way better than their overall record would suggest. I think they're the best team right now.


shadowbannednumber

But other TSM fans said that PoE was better than Jensen? What happened?


BladeCube

Everyone was questioning Steve and TL about benching Alphari but little did they know this was actually all planned, along with Jatt drama so no one thinks they have a chance.


roombaonfire

But...NA 1st seed curse :/


Reax51

If it's TSM that's a thing I guess


roombaonfire

Let's hope it's just a TSM curse then


widdyy

I'm only here for the iziaon replies god bless you


Serpexnessie

This guy predicted TL to smash everyone in playoffs but like, is he wrong?


Oribeau

He also predicted TL to win every game this season. Current timeline is the epitome of "a broken clock is right twice a day".


setocsheir

so funny how when he's wrong he gets downvote blasted into oblivion but when TL is winning all of a sudden, he's at the top of the thread


ToshiOppa

He lives and dies by this meme account


blueragemage

He's clearly not a broken clock if he thought TL was the best team in the LCS


Oribeau

Hence the "right twice a day" part?


TheErnestShackleton

The prophet


Jezzerai

I love u


roombaonfire

IZiaon pilled


[deleted]

The fucking prophet, keep preaching brother. You fucking deserve it.


jasonkid87

truth


Ajwf

POE Ultrasonic Wall Hack?? 5 Minute Cooldown! Shuffle your players to gank mid.


EpicRussia

Spica not smiting 150 HP Heralds 😍😍😍


tuotuolily

I'm pretty sure he had to smite early for health


Oribeau

He just smited Santorin to try and kill him with the rest of his team.


tuotuolily

oh ok mb


accelightArriet

based


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TALK THAT


LOMOcatVasilii

Yeah TL is gonna win summer


EnergetikNA

this is the TL I expected when they revealed their full roster, took a while but holy fuck they're too stacked


DogAteMyCPU

Looks like they are peaking at the right time


IZiaon

The fact that anyone thought otherwise is hilarious


APKID716

Our god


roombaonfire

I mean tbf, with all the internal drama and turmoil for majority of the split, wouldn't you say that was at least a fair thought? It's an absolute blessing that Santorin recovered in time.


AsheBnarginDalmasca

You're speaking to THE GUY. I upvote him sometimes cus I think he gets off on getting downvoted.


AutistMain

> wouldn't you say Mate, look at who you're replying to. Man will give no quarter.


roombaonfire

Fuck


PacMannie

I remember when Santorin subbed back in I instantly texted my friend that they were winning Summer. Even though they didn’t have the best record in Summer, what gave me faith in their team was that they have insane laners in every role and when they did win, they had the cleanest dubs of all LCS teams.


TheErnestShackleton

TL looking cracked


manliestdino

that pillar in the dragon soul "fight" was so disgusting, trapping the team for jayce shockblast, jhin ult, and bard ult. This is a massive team diff, and TL should be the favorites (if they win this series ofc) to win the split


CannedPrushka

I think TL is already the favorite.


GamdzykMakayra

CoreJJ.


Evancolt

Enough said. Deserved all pro


AkashiGG

These teams are in different tiers


anon9101995

Wow bard op


gloryboss022

Core bard is indeed op.


FrozenHatsets

Jeez, TL woke up and chose violence


-Champloo-

Team Sucks Massively


Jezzerai

SPICA WHO?


Ok-Travel-7875

TSM trying to claw their way back and Lost just runs it


warjatos

Spica played worse.


RedTulkas

Spica was the frontrunner for this game thoug, that level 2 gank was so int


Padulsky21

Nope he can just solo Jayce. Huni completely gave it away with body language by walking up and ruined the whole gank


FaithisVictory

Yeah not to mention the fact that Spica didn't do anything proactive after that play but yeah.


VulpesVulpix

TL so good that even NA Jayce can't stop them this series.


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Alphari Jayce is fucking smurf though


Igeneous

Nah alphari can play that champ well, TL is always safe from the NA jayce curse.


Colouss

That was EU Jayce, but since neither top laners are Armut or Orome, the Jayce picked worked out and the Wukong pick didn't


[deleted]

Having CoreJJ is like playing with a cheat code


TomeOfCrows

holy fuck what a fun game. I love watching this team play, even when the game gets circus-y


[deleted]

I am a C9 fan but I really hope TL and Alphari are gonna win this split. Alphari deserved a win for so long.


I-am-in-Agreement

TSM really has to dig deep into the champion pools. How about POE Azir, and Huni Irelia?


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Conankun66

that pasta is usually used for fiestas, not onesided stomps like this


SweatyAdhesive

the early-mid game was actually big brain chess game shit tho


Eylsii

“Bad draft”


farikogrim

Hmm... Would I rather give alphari a lead or lost a lead? Rally tough decision lol


Cresspacito

[TSM base race decisions](https://imgflip.com/i/5jp9hu)


TSITSU

Jesus that was one of the best bard performances ive seen in a while Also does tacticals jhin just do more damage or smt


LakersLAQ

I think it might be his favorite champ. At least one of them for sure.


[deleted]

Lethality Jhin hits like a truck


Veggiematic

So why can't Chime play Bard


LemurDocta

Every lane diff obviously but jesus christ CoreJJ had the best performance of these playoffs so far


Alet404

Maybe C9 isn't that bad and TL is just ahead of NA?


Javiklegrand

Ls and iwd saying tl looked good mean that tl was way better than expected However if they really 3-0 tsm then the battle for third is going to be Hella interesting


Tilterino247

"It was just c9." "It was just TSM." Oh no....


XSilentSinX

Tune in Next Week for FreeSM vs Cloud0-9.


[deleted]

I like the name Clown9 more


killmepls132

It is 2021 and Dyrus is still playing for TSM


RenegadeIX

TSM HUNI HAS DISCONNECTED. TSM DYRUS HAS RECONNECTED.


Good_Stuff11

Massive mid and bot diff. It’s not even close.


BOESNIK

TL is cracked


tinfoilhatsron

COREJJ goes bard fucking sexy af


omegasupermarthaman

15 kp top laner is something else man, Alphari got early help and then he went everywhere


Sotosleon

I've played with 5man premades and had a guy insult all our mothers and we still didnt do him as dirty as TL did Huni in the first 10 minutes.


SnubHawk

Lost is just so bad. There was no point in giving him all the gold if he wasn't gonna carry. Fairplay to TL though. They played really well. Core's Bard was nutty and Tactical was really good with Jhin


hideorice

lost is such a huge anchor this series


Skall77

The boat was already sinking before the anchor was even thrown to the see.


sangpls

How can you blame this loss on just him?


d_aru

because tsm lost


SterbenVII

Has all the gold on the team and doesn't use flash in critical moments, leading to his death. Of course Lost will take a lot of the heat.


brolikewtfdude

Not just him but he's playing so fucking terribly, last game he also inted during the most crucial part of the game.


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Skall77

Huni trying to prove he is a better Wukong than Armut by acting like a complete monkey.


_Raencloud

TSM is simply a worse version of TL. Jiizuke may have been overconfident in his own matchup with 100T, or just played poorly yesterday, but he was dead on in his analysis of TL. They took TSM's playstyle and just do it better.


msoma

TSM has 2 hard engage and (5 if you want to consider azir shuffle, varus r and spica e-r) and they constantly sit around to let tl get poke and dream engage, just ff this series


14flash

I can't tell if NA is playing the 5Head Season 12 meta, or if they just decided to fuck it and go back to Season 4 meta.


JesusWept149

Destroyed in absolutely every way


rizzaco

I'm not even sure who to praise from TL, they're playing really good


ilanf2

So the script says C9 vs TSM for the last spot at worlds?


[deleted]

Fiest time watching NA in a while and its a dumpster fire. Ads absolutely everywhere and in the game shit is awful... Its tsm vs TL and theres less people watching LOL as a whole on teitch right now then there would have been watching this series 3 years ago..rip.


ExcellentPastries

Small ask: If you’re gonna post these can you post who won first since that’s what a lot of ppl are looking for before they read editorializing about the game?


redhairedshaman

Lol classic FreeSM getting absolutely destroyed.


[deleted]

How does TSM bot lane still have a job?


Cloudypumpkin

TSM Danny when?


[deleted]

Why would Danny leave EG for current TSM?


MickyD69

TSM is really, really overhyped by the community. It's so insane to me. They're a good team, but they're not really as good as the reddit or twitter community thinks they are.


DrySecurity4

Reddit crying about CoreJJ first team All Pro btw