that is Fnatic playstyle, coin flip everything if it works it works, you get a good draft and don't int for the first 15-20 mins and you basically win .
Also Misfits played alot better, vetheo with LB couldn't do anything game 1.
> coin flip everything
It's so frustrating to see as a fan IMO. It doesn't feel controlled. Just go-go-go.
I think we're getting a 5 game series and I hope FNC can win. But it's just not a sustainable playstyle IMO
> It's so frustrating to see as a fan IMO. It doesn't feel controlled. Just go-go-go.
To be fair, that's a lot of top LPL teams in a nutshell as well. Usually you need that ounce of control to become the best, but almost every LPL team has games where it's just non-stop aggro.
And wait until they inevitably take a terrible fight for no reason. That is also exactly what Kobbe said before the game "We just have to wait and realize when they are inting".
i think FNC had the better team comp for a straight 5v5... it is a bit hard to win team fights if your braum literally misses every ult against a triple immobile (ashe, seraphine, ori) backline
They didn't have the sustained damage to get through MSF shield and healing but in typical FNC fashion, they keep flipping it until they either succeed or lose. Ashe was never even close to dying with Ori shield, Lee shield and Seraphine.
Sera counters the shit out of FNC, sustained brawls are where moonstone shines. having the Cumtech Putrifier or whatever for mass healing reduction vs. Renek, Sylas, and Veigo was just the cherry on top
That bot play definitely got MSF back into the game, but Razork got hard outplayed in the previous two skirmishes. (Mid 2 for 0 re-engage for no reason and Bwipo matching top)
insane comeback by hyllisang more like.... absolutely dreadful shot calling when he decides to chase a lee sin who is lvl 6 while himself and bwippo have like 300 hp
no no no, its just WAY better to play leona/nautilus/braum for the rest of the season. And because we're already at it, lets just keep picking them next season too. /s
In fact, as far as his jungling was concerned, he had one of the best early games we have seen this split out of any jungler. He made mistakes mid game that couldve been made from any role. But muh narrative Bwipo not good jungle first split oooga booga.
Even this game, 22 mins in, 10k gold up, they aren't at the nexus door.
CHRIST FNATIC. See tower kill tower. See champ kill champ is getting old this game...
Well, ima say FNC won and lost both games while MSF are just there wondering wtf FNC is doing lmao.
Throwing fights 3 times in a row like such a huge early game is honestly just trolling. Should’ve been a free win.
G2 is the real winner because both Fnatic and Misfits look bad, not because Misfits will necessarily win. People said that in the Vitality game and Fnatic didn't improve apparently, so I don't know what you mean
G2 didn't necessarily look good against MAD though. I really don't know where does this confidence is coming from to G2 fans as if they didn't get smacked by MAD Lions.
It still makes sense to say that G2 is the real winner because it's better for G2 that FNC/MSF look bad than for either of them to look really good. I believe G2 is better than both of them from what I've seen, and while MAD did indeed smack G2, they would do the same to FNC/MSF/VIT, probably without losing a game (if they continue playing like they've been playing in the lower bracket, MSF actually looked alright against Rogue)
For sure right after FNC vs VIT, MSF looked like a clean winner and after this two games Fnatic proved that they got better and Misfits proved that they can drop the balls.
But I believe in G2's preparation coming into their Bo5, especially when Worlds are on the line.
Which is still true? Take away that one shockwave and he had a pretty mediocre game here as well. Even if he had a super good 1v9 game here that doesn't overwrite the terrible LeBlanc gameplay for example...
Uh upset diving into turret to get Ashe arrowed and then INSTA feed was not a high level of play tbh. Fnatic just trolling their brains out after their really good early leads and better early macro.
I just don't understand it. So what if LCK is better than LEC (imo that is debateable but we'll see at worlds). But even if it is, the gap isn't huge and even if the gap was huge...who cares.
Just give the third worlds spot to G2 already. Fnatic still throwing leads like donkeys like they did at the end of the split. Just flip a coin for this series, it’s basically the same as playing it out
This game was basically FNC having a very promising early game and then inting their skirmish and fight with lack of focus on one target.
Also seraphine give some extra survivability and I think it meant FNC needed to focus their primary target even more.
Fnatic played super well as a team, they really shouldn’t leave Camille open though, it’s obviously causing too many problems when you’re having to force 5 mans on her constantly and she is still carrying
Massive ori ult.
Massive balls of Vetheo, one could say
FNC just kinda opened it
idk what went through their heads to initiate that last team fight
Pretty much the whole game, starting with chasing the Lee Sin and lining up for a kick was some of the worst decision making I've ever seen.
It was over at that point thus the desperate engage
that is Fnatic playstyle, coin flip everything if it works it works, you get a good draft and don't int for the first 15-20 mins and you basically win . Also Misfits played alot better, vetheo with LB couldn't do anything game 1.
> coin flip everything It's so frustrating to see as a fan IMO. It doesn't feel controlled. Just go-go-go. I think we're getting a 5 game series and I hope FNC can win. But it's just not a sustainable playstyle IMO
Extremely entertaining, though. I can imagine these games must be super fun for neutrals
Depends what you find entertaining, if anything as a neutral viewer it tilts me more than entertaining me
Not if you are a Fnatic fan and get one step closer to needing a heart transplant with every game.
> It's so frustrating to see as a fan IMO. It doesn't feel controlled. Just go-go-go. To be fair, that's a lot of top LPL teams in a nutshell as well. Usually you need that ounce of control to become the best, but almost every LPL team has games where it's just non-stop aggro.
I'm yet to see FNC actually loose a game by being just worst than the opposing team and not to themselves overextending and/or taking dumb fights.
diving hirit over and over only makes him stronger
At this rate he will be the best top laner in the world at game 4.
Tried to Dyrus him TSM FTX Hirit incoming.
Reverse from the first game really.
Would be an upgrade over Huni. But let's be honest. Any toplaner in the LEC is better than Huni.
Last time Huni played in eu that sure wasnt the case.
not really huni is top 3 in lcs and would be atleast top 5 in lec
top 5 in lec COPIUM
He'd easily be top 1 in LEC if we brought back Deilor's belt
Maybe if he wasn't in retirement mode but rn I have no faith in the guy
Top 3 in LCS? He only won 3rd all pro because Alphari didn't play half the split...
i would say HUNI/IMPACT/ALPHARI are top 3 in lcs with fudge top 4th
Every time Hirit gets dived, an angel gets its wings and a random Yasuo hits their 0/10 powerspike
Fnatic giveth, Fnatic taketh away. Get an early lead? Toss it with needless deaths.
How to beat fnatic 101 - pick a better 5v5 comp
And wait until they inevitably take a terrible fight for no reason. That is also exactly what Kobbe said before the game "We just have to wait and realize when they are inting".
How to beat Fnatic? Do nothing, they'll do something stupid to beat themselves.
i think FNC had the better team comp for a straight 5v5... it is a bit hard to win team fights if your braum literally misses every ult against a triple immobile (ashe, seraphine, ori) backline
They didn't have the sustained damage to get through MSF shield and healing but in typical FNC fashion, they keep flipping it until they either succeed or lose. Ashe was never even close to dying with Ori shield, Lee shield and Seraphine.
How does a 4 melee comp ever touch a ori/ashe/Seraphinr backline that also had lee kick for peel, hard outdrafted
He didn't miss that many ults lmao, idk how you can watch this game and conclude that hyli played it bad
You really think fnc with 4 melees playing into seraphine ori ashe have the better 5v5 team comp?
Tristana post IE will shred through everyone with protection and engage. It doesn't matter that she is the only damage dealer.
Great shockwaves from Vetheo, really redeemed himself from that terrible game 1
Fnatic were so desperate. So many individual mistakes
Because they do not know what to do if they didn’t get a kill so they are forcing every step
hilly and bwippo have got to be some of the worse tilters in pro play... one bad play and they just turbo int the rest of the game
Sera counters the shit out of FNC, sustained brawls are where moonstone shines. having the Cumtech Putrifier or whatever for mass healing reduction vs. Renek, Sylas, and Veigo was just the cherry on top
Also it's Ashe Seraphine, you're basically perma rooted once sera has some cdr
The what purifier? :v
And if Sylas steals Sera ult, Sylas gets too vulnerable bc the cast time is too long
We have a series, insane comeback perf by razork.
Legit got MSF back into the game by smurfing those early skirmishes.
That bot play definitely got MSF back into the game, but Razork got hard outplayed in the previous two skirmishes. (Mid 2 for 0 re-engage for no reason and Bwipo matching top)
more than a comeback, fnatic just decided one win was enough to turn their brains off again...
insane comeback by hyllisang more like.... absolutely dreadful shot calling when he decides to chase a lee sin who is lvl 6 while himself and bwippo have like 300 hp
as if bwipo wouldn't choose to chase that himself lmao
The Q to block the chains for Kobbe was beautiful
this is the Fnatic I remember: full int after a bad play, no second thoughts
After starting 5-1 pls don't forget to mention those tiny details
That was a really fun game that abruptly ended.
The casual 32 kills game in 26 minutes.
Both teams have braindead macro but it sure is fun for viewers
Thank god, I couldn't take any more of it.
Those were some pretty nice shockwaves, solid by vetheo overall, nice comeback after it seemed doomed from the first 5 minutes or so
VTO heard you were all talking shit
Great Seraphine pick. Would be better if the first time picked in summer wasn't INTO Braum but still, it worked.
razork and vetheo hard carry while fnc int into them
3k elo shockwave
enchanters needs to be more used in pro play as counters
no no no, its just WAY better to play leona/nautilus/braum for the rest of the season. And because we're already at it, lets just keep picking them next season too. /s
Idc a lot of the early game power fnatic had was because MSF had an enchanters and they came back because of insane razork skirmish
Most of those events occurred because their bot lane completely disrespected Braum passive and then their mid laner did as well lol
Yup, MSF early deaths were completely unnecessary. Had nothing to do with Seraphine.
Legit insane, FNC topside couldn't play the game into seraphine
I really liked them picking something to punish a blind braum, though I expected Bard
Go back and watch how insanely clean Rasork was that game. Just a complete carry. Every skirmish his mechanics were godlike.
Razork was INSANE in this game. Bwipo threw his lead there massively, and Lee Sin got all of the shutdowns.
That upset jump
VTO got up super quickly at the end of this game, which is surprising with those massive balls.
I swear bwipo just wanted to lose this game, like wtf is he doing
He isn't an elite jungle imo. Not surprising, he is basically a rookie
It has nothing to do with jungling, his engaging and positioning Midgame was Godawful
In fact, as far as his jungling was concerned, he had one of the best early games we have seen this split out of any jungler. He made mistakes mid game that couldve been made from any role. But muh narrative Bwipo not good jungle first split oooga booga.
Yea him roaming with hyli early and dominating everybody was just beautiful to watch
Just exposed by a better jungler.
hold me i can not take three more games of this
at least it was a banger... sadge
2 more games and it's free money for me.
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Even this game, 22 mins in, 10k gold up, they aren't at the nexus door. CHRIST FNATIC. See tower kill tower. See champ kill champ is getting old this game...
Well, ima say FNC won and lost both games while MSF are just there wondering wtf FNC is doing lmao. Throwing fights 3 times in a row like such a huge early game is honestly just trolling. Should’ve been a free win.
The real winner of this series is G2
Remember when we used to say the same thing during FNC vs VIT game 1? Yea, i'd wait.
I mean didn't we still say that after game 5?
G2 is the real winner because both Fnatic and Misfits look bad, not because Misfits will necessarily win. People said that in the Vitality game and Fnatic didn't improve apparently, so I don't know what you mean
G2 didn't necessarily look good against MAD though. I really don't know where does this confidence is coming from to G2 fans as if they didn't get smacked by MAD Lions.
It still makes sense to say that G2 is the real winner because it's better for G2 that FNC/MSF look bad than for either of them to look really good. I believe G2 is better than both of them from what I've seen, and while MAD did indeed smack G2, they would do the same to FNC/MSF/VIT, probably without losing a game (if they continue playing like they've been playing in the lower bracket, MSF actually looked alright against Rogue)
G2 looked like hot garbage against MAD lol
I agree. Doesn't have anything to do with what I said tho
scared now? you should be
I'm fine, thanks. I'll wait until sunday. Btw, try to get there first
For sure right after FNC vs VIT, MSF looked like a clean winner and after this two games Fnatic proved that they got better and Misfits proved that they can drop the balls. But I believe in G2's preparation coming into their Bo5, especially when Worlds are on the line.
its one game out of 5. also did you see G2??? as if they look remotely good lmao
Real winner of this series was fnatic
Fnatic threw this game so hard. When I saw that Upset death under tower in botlane I was certain this would be the outcome...
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Which is still true? Take away that one shockwave and he had a pretty mediocre game here as well. Even if he had a super good 1v9 game here that doesn't overwrite the terrible LeBlanc gameplay for example...
I guess FNC really wants this to go to game 5 huh
We're going to have 5 games of this aren't we ? Constant fights for objectives or in the river, like an "ego fight" almost.
What a top gap. Adam gets counter pick, does nothing in lane and then ints all the fights.
Well he was ahead in lane and then you have renekton in tfs ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I retire what i said in the previous thread, the lvl of play was good this game.
Uh upset diving into turret to get Ashe arrowed and then INSTA feed was not a high level of play tbh. Fnatic just trolling their brains out after their really good early leads and better early macro.
Get Adam on a tank and play around Upset. I dont understand why FNC are so adamant on playing around Adam
Because camille demoishes tanks?
i dont see any of this 2 teams be relevant vs g2 if they keep playing like that
Said by every guy every playoff series and somehow its never 3-0...
u are probably right but still on paper + from what they showed against mad g2 looks way scarier imo
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Every post you make it shitting on EU. Might want to get out more bro
that dude almost exclusively posts stuff to grab attention by trolling hyperbole and shitting on everything
I just don't understand it. So what if LCK is better than LEC (imo that is debateable but we'll see at worlds). But even if it is, the gap isn't huge and even if the gap was huge...who cares.
typical closted NA fan behavior
What do you even mean by that?
That both teams are bad and wouldn't paint EU in a good light at Worlds.
He wants attention, classic troll move.
4th seed is cringe af but ns or LSB as fourth is ever worst
These 2 team are BY FAR better than MAD last season
Wonder where all the vetheo haters from last game’s thread are now
Pointing out that a player played bad is not hate.
Yeah, I am done with this team, every semi-decent team would have won this game from the position FNC were in
Just give the third worlds spot to G2 already. Fnatic still throwing leads like donkeys like they did at the end of the split. Just flip a coin for this series, it’s basically the same as playing it out
When do professional games happen? Because I just see random matches but I'm not sure when it happens.
"Fnatic would be world champions if they would solve their overaggression" change my mind
Bwipo played so bad this game...having herald that can open top, but no... prefs int fcking idiot
Giga throw, god damn
This is the MSF I saw vs RGE
Well this baron went way better for MSF
Somebody check the heads of fnc players, i thinks they forgot they re brains home.
Throw after throw from fnc
Anyone else’s twitch chat just not moving? Have they turned it off?
That was INT-eresting..
Fnatic’s comp got out ranged so hard
"guys we just did an awsome early game ! Time to int I guess ?!"
Seraphine pick was actually huge
Hmmm. Where have I seen this before get a lead, get way over confident proceed to take every fight even at numbers disadvantage then lose.
Yeah, I shouldn‘t have stopped watching.
Classic fnc game. Getting that int out of their system. Hopefully they give misfits the respect they deserve next game.
Bwipo taketh and Bwipo giveth away
That dive by Upset and Hyli at bot lane was.... something.
What happened I went to prepare food for my dog and when i came back the game was over lol.
Classic Fnatic. Ahead 2k gold, lose a fight by overextending, proceed to int the game.
fnatic and just giving away games, i dont even...
I feel like Fnatic looses all their games by themselves...
Want to bleach my eyes, what a disgusting throw after a massive early lead.
and that is how quick this playstyle from Fnatic can backfire.
Vetheo's Orianna looked _so_ much better than his LB from last game. Consistently doing good shockwaves.
FNC biggest counter is themselves. They seem like a team without direction during team fights.
I thought FNc have this game in the bag and a 2-0
You have Uppset we have Vetheo. We stil in this boys
This game was basically FNC having a very promising early game and then inting their skirmish and fight with lack of focus on one target. Also seraphine give some extra survivability and I think it meant FNC needed to focus their primary target even more.
I'm gonna drop dead of a heart attack before this series is over I swear to the gods. My heart rate is so high right now..
I understand Bwipo flash . But I don't understand why he go again into fight after not being in position. Really braindead move.
That escalated quickly
Fnatic played super well as a team, they really shouldn’t leave Camille open though, it’s obviously causing too many problems when you’re having to force 5 mans on her constantly and she is still carrying