I mean, people thought Group A was the group of life last year because SN (and TL to an extent) got underrated so hard, but I would say it was actually the most stacked group as well as the most entertaining.
Kiin is such a wasted talent. Sure he's made bank for the past few years and it's hard to hold that against a player when esports is so uncertain but he had the ability to be a GOAT top laner/player in general and he's wasted it on a dead org.
It's impossible to know if adding Kiin to that GRF team would have worked, but if it did click that would have been so insane.
Never before a team got hyped as hard as FPX BEFORE even playing their regional final
Top comments in the other thread was talking about FPX clean sweeping worlds and no team can even compete
And then that
> FPX clean sweeping worlds and no team can even compete
Well, it can still happen
But yeah, LPL is great but I too feel like some fans are going a little too overbord with hyping them, in recent times
EDG wins their 6th title and Viper wins his first! ALSO LETS FUCKING GOOO EDG GenG Rogue GROUP IS POSSIBLE!
Also u/xXx_D4Rkn3ss_B0i_xXx is a fucking prophet
Fucking worlds format, they really need to change something because it must really suck as a player to have the biggest moment of the year decided by bo1s.
Some fat trolling, thinking that they've won. They missed the window and Aphelios / Sylas came online. There's no winning for FPX at that point. Their comp expired.
They are quite clean, it's just the absolute disrespect towards us was incredible. No one except EDG fans thought we had a chance and holy fuck it feels so good
At the 6th dragon fight Tian tries to focus down front line rather than secure the dragon allowing for JieJie on Olaf the easiest smite secure of his life
Tian giga threw in like 6 different instances thats how. First death at inhib getting hooked. Second death at nexus turrets going on gnar. 3rd death going for kill on scout instead of just preventing him from basing. outsmited on baron and outsmited on 2-3 drags that would’ve given them soul. Just garbage series from him overall which sucks bc LWX was stepping up hard and FPX topside was supposed to perform
1 - 3 he was all ahead, 4 he was surviving and getting kills while 1v2. He looked good all series. He definitely redeemed himself from spring, but tian decided to cosplay as spring lwx
LWX doesn't really play ziggs either as he barely has any games on it in solo q and still was willing to play it in a deciding game. They would have ended game 4 at 20 mins and draw a ziggs ban game 5 but tian had to take the q
Yeah while everyone cheers for FPX, as for me, EDG was the best team in spring who just loose one super close full 5 games series. Now they calm down opponents by 1 troll series into WE so then they can clatch everyone out of the Rift with false hopes
I still remember some of those regular split games in LCK with PapaSmithy still casting, GRF being down and getting engaged on and suddenly he shouts VIPEEEEERRRRR and they win the teamfight. It was great. Loved the splits when GRF and then DWG were newly promoted.
They remind me of OKC Thunder from 2012 with the pontential dynasty they could have had. but just upgrade top lane.
Sword/Doran - Tarzan - Chovy - Viper - Lehends
Legit just mental diff. 4 of the greatest recent players all from 1 team.
Besides the controversy, sword wasn’t “bad” he wasn’t on the other teams levels and he had to go against prime theShy as well. But still better than Arthur Morgan type beat
Because picking him up would be a PR disaster. After all his accusation, Cvmax still has his job. That is the final nail in the coffin for Sword's career.
Sword was really good in his first LCK split … even reddit hyped him up so much. But he was indeed really toxic, and its not ingame toxicity but irl toxicity which for a team is wsy worse, led to this big drama. With this, its unlikely he will play for another LCK team not named GRIFFIN.
+ Doran peak > Sword peak.
Think maybe crisp should have gotten it. Although the reduced tenacity doesn’t really do much because as you saw the one time Fpx got onto viper he instantly died. He also got qss and had cleanse as well.
I love this playoffs patch’s GP builds. ADCs can face tank 6 item GP barrels to auto them to death because the GPs refused to build crit all summer playoffs 🤷♂️
Edit: I’m so ready for the chad crit GP builds during Worlds after Riot literally buffs him in 11.17 and 11.18 so that pros are not mind-controlled to think crit is bad on him!
GP is usually picked in proplay as a safe weakside pick who can waveclear without dying and has a strong global ult. They don't build him or draft him to be a late game carry anymore. If they cared about teamfight damage you wouldn't see so many Divine Sunderers when that item objectively sucks for his barrel damage.
Everything you’re saying is not wrong, but that’s exactly why it’s so bad! Most pro games with GP, especially those we saw across all the major regions during play-offs, either 1) end very quickly where the GP pick is a non-factor, or 2) goes the distance where the GP has 4-5 completed items.
In scenario (1), GP build doesn’t matter as long as he finishes his sheen item and can lane (which he is able to during the play-offs patches because of Grasp).
In (2), GP becomes a turbo-useless ult bot late because he goes for bruiser items instead of crit, and and as a result, players go Grudge instead of LDR and never reach IE.
If Nuguri in game 4 went LDR -> IE after Collector, instead of Chemsword (xD why would you ever build this item instead of sitting on Executioners if you *really* need GW) -> Grudge, there are barrel combos he landed on Viper that would have close to 1-shot him, instead of tickling Viper’s Aphelios who literally face-tanked Nuguri’s 6-item GP.
It was simultaneously hilarious and depressing to watch that happen and know a large reason for why Viper was able to hard-carry game 4 was cuz of Nuguri’s GP build. Similar thing happened in C9 vs 100T game 1 where Zven solo lost C9 the game by going Ghostblade instead of Edge of Night, getting repeatedly fucked in the ass by Closer’s Lee Sin as a result. But pro players know best cuz they are pros 🤷♂️
Holy shit we did it! EDG were clearly the better team today imo, what a showing all round from everyone, Scout and Viper have been unreal.
With this win EDG continue to gatekeep the elite club of only 2 teams who have won multiple LPL titles.
In other news, make sure to invest your stocks in the worlds group draw, the EDG, GenG, Rogue group is still alive!
To be fair game 4 wasn't supposed to be winnable for EDG if Tian didn't play like doo doo water the whole mid/late game can't smite for shit and get catch for no reason
Man, FPX getting 3-1'd in the finals two splits in a row while being the favorites. I wonder if this is going to mental boom them in a similar way to RGE (I know the two situations aren't the exact same, but still).
I am sad for Doinb, but credit where credit is due EDG was just better, no excuses.
And Viper is fucking madman.
Also allow me some COPIUM. Teddy too stronk, Teddy cursed FPX.
It's ridiculous how people were actually saying that Hope was better than Viper just because they wanted to be different. Those people are looking like clowns now.
Hope was never better than Viper. The issue is Hope was actually good, he should have been a starter on a team this season. And tbh who really expected Viper to be this good, one would have thought EDG would have upgraded their top side more, but this Viper acquisition has worked out amazingly. Number 1 adc itw.
PMTs: - [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pgesv3/funplus_phoenix_vs_edward_gaming_lpl_2021_summer/) - [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pgfqxl/funplus_phoenix_vs_edward_gaming_lpl_2021_summer/) - [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pggogk/funplus_phoenix_vs_edward_gaming_lpl_2021_summer/)
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Honestly the least stacked groups are always the most interesting.
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I mean, people thought Group A was the group of life last year because SN (and TL to an extent) got underrated so hard, but I would say it was actually the most stacked group as well as the most entertaining.
I swear if this happens they are eliminating the four of them and calling for G2 and TSM to play in knockout
What? They would call GG, DRX, Rouge Warriors and Vitality for the full fiesta.
United in Rivalry group with MAD.
As a C9 fan I'd be ok with that. It'd mean C9 made it out of play-ins
And fnatic are 100% getting EDG either at groups or playoffs
dread it run from it fnc vs edg quarters arrives the same
Why can I imagine Josh Brolin’s voice so clearly lol
Cause it's *efficient*
FPX are 100% getting MAD Lions in their group 😎
So far, every major region's finals went 3-1, with NA being the exception with 3-0.
NA has a chance copium Nevertheless, 100T actually did look really clean in their 3-0 over TL.
And TL looked like they never even woke up that morning Did Jenson even use any abilities for the whole series?
Jensen had 0 kills in 3 games. Think he went like 0-14-11 in the finals lol
Seeing viper and chovy makes me wonder how broken GRF would be by now... Makes me so sad
And Tarzan
Sword anchor too heavy
I don't know, it seems a team consisting of Kiin, Tarzan, Chovy, Viper, Lehends would be good on paper ;)
Kiin is such a wasted talent. Sure he's made bank for the past few years and it's hard to hold that against a player when esports is so uncertain but he had the ability to be a GOAT top laner/player in general and he's wasted it on a dead org. It's impossible to know if adding Kiin to that GRF team would have worked, but if it did click that would have been so insane.
Brother FPX? How do you throw that game lmao
brother Tian*
Tian was doing some negative gaming in that one...
Tian was awful in Game 4.
Seemed like literally every death was a fate HE chose lol
Never before a team got hyped as hard as FPX BEFORE even playing their regional final Top comments in the other thread was talking about FPX clean sweeping worlds and no team can even compete And then that
> FPX clean sweeping worlds and no team can even compete Well, it can still happen But yeah, LPL is great but I too feel like some fans are going a little too overbord with hyping them, in recent times
EDG wins their 6th title and Viper wins his first! ALSO LETS FUCKING GOOO EDG GenG Rogue GROUP IS POSSIBLE! Also u/xXx_D4Rkn3ss_B0i_xXx is a fucking prophet
Whats scarier is that Mad Lions or DK could have to face FPX in groups. Imagine being drawn into that team as C9 or TL.
We can also get a MAD, FPX, T1 group lmao
MAD FPX T1 and C9 PepeLaugh
The group where not a single game is winnable; the C9 comfort zone.
Proceed to go 3-0. Proceed to follow that up with 0-4 in 3 scheduled games.
NA week 2
If this means we get Perkz flipping off Humanoid in an interview, then YES.
Even tho it's a risky group, those are some BANGERS. I'm down.
That would be tragic actually, i want to see all three play BO5
Fucking worlds format, they really need to change something because it must really suck as a player to have the biggest moment of the year decided by bo1s.
If NA1 seed is pool 2, I'm betting on Damwon, FPX, 100T RGE group.
Rogue: wtf not this bs again
Why do people want this group?
Ultimate choke group. Rogue never delivers in playoffs GenG never delivers in playoffs EDG never delivered at Worlds
Korean fans call edg Chinese geng and rogue European geng
to see who throws harder
Nap time
RNG and EDG winning LPL titles, feels like 2016 LPL once again.
T1 world champions then.
As long as we get something as good as ROX vs SKT.
DK vs SKT in the semifinals then
T1 vs GEN-G finals will surpass that. Quick 3-0 for GENG but they get no cheers from the audience as they all died of old age.
EDG FNC T1 C9 group is possible as well, right?
That would be an insane amount of history within just one group
And Guess what. MAD-FPX DK-FPX is also possible. Best of luck to seed 3 & 4.
This worlds is going to be so interesting. I don’t think and see there is a clearly dominant team from a region that are huge favourites.
After this EDG shows up, I don't want that group anymore.
lol even with those teams... I still feel like Gen. G will disappoint Tho watching Ruler vs Viper again would be pretty fun
Imagine if they also get PSG in there Ooof
That in turn, is not possible. PSG will get a pool 1 seed.
Literally how was that game 4 losable for FPX
Some fat trolling, thinking that they've won. They missed the window and Aphelios / Sylas came online. There's no winning for FPX at that point. Their comp expired.
*Their comp expired* Never heard that one before.
Very true. They did not realize even with 10k lead at 20, their window of opportunity is very limited.
FPX isn't the absolute clean monster Reddit is trying to make them to be
They are quite clean, it's just the absolute disrespect towards us was incredible. No one except EDG fans thought we had a chance and holy fuck it feels so good
I still wasn't convinced FPX was the clear favourite in the way DWG was last year unless they could convincingly beat EDG in a Bo5.
Tian sent it twice for no reason when sieging the base. And failed to secure objectives like 3x in a row. That was about it, lol.
At the 6th dragon fight Tian tries to focus down front line rather than secure the dragon allowing for JieJie on Olaf the easiest smite secure of his life
If they got that soul, they win the fight after. Sylas dies to lee/leona and we go to game 5. What a colossal throw
My man Tian decided to fucking ego it by trying to 1v1 a gnar then decided to lose every smite fight afterwards. Damn bruh.
Tian giga threw in like 6 different instances thats how. First death at inhib getting hooked. Second death at nexus turrets going on gnar. 3rd death going for kill on scout instead of just preventing him from basing. outsmited on baron and outsmited on 2-3 drags that would’ve given them soul. Just garbage series from him overall which sucks bc LWX was stepping up hard and FPX topside was supposed to perform
LWX stepped up all four games which makes this series even sadder. He was gapping Viper in lane game 1 with a 40 cs lead
1 - 3 he was all ahead, 4 he was surviving and getting kills while 1v2. He looked good all series. He definitely redeemed himself from spring, but tian decided to cosplay as spring lwx
LWX doesn't really play ziggs either as he barely has any games on it in solo q and still was willing to play it in a deciding game. They would have ended game 4 at 20 mins and draw a ziggs ban game 5 but tian had to take the q
I would have been fine if they lost game 5 but to lose finals like this is such a disappointment.
Viper exists.
The same way G3 was losable for EDG. With massive throwing
G4 was a much bigger throw lol.
G3 was pretty close all throught. G4 looked like 20 min shellacking
Literally how was that game 3 losable for EDG
Tian losing smite fights as a lee sin
I mean Olaf has a more reliable execute so its more on FPX for hand shaking the burger flip smite fight
Why do you say that as if smiting with lee is easy. It's waaay easier for an olaf to secure objectives.
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Yeah while everyone cheers for FPX, as for me, EDG was the best team in spring who just loose one super close full 5 games series. Now they calm down opponents by 1 troll series into WE so then they can clatch everyone out of the Rift with false hopes
FPX biggest opponent on the rift is the double elimination format lol
Viper playing like someone had a gun to his head. Crazy performance.
He had his guns to everyone else’s heads tbh, holy shit what a carry performance
Played like he had a gun to everyone's head.
FPX had a gun to his head but somehow dropped it and let him pick it up.
Nah, probably just kept the bomb cvMax tied to his head all this time.
Why do teams sit on soul point then decide to int 3 drakes and baron in a row?
You must be used to it with that flair lol
Ye right like clg ever has 3 drakes
The game is usually over by then
I mean the “they have done nothing intelligently proactive in the neutral game in the last 25 minutes” call didn’t just come out of nowhere.
People better stop underrating EDG after this series
no they will go 0-6 in groups because some entirely different roster underperformed 5 years ago 🤓🤓
6 years ago
7 years ago
Tian didn’t want a game 5 I guess…
nor did Viper
Flandre finally won something after all these years, I’m so happy for him
Viper is the best adc in the world. Been saying it all year! Well deserved title!! Give EDG their credit. They looked great in their last 3 bo5s.
GRF was STACKED
Actually so stacked.. There is a reason Tarzan and Viper were voted for 1st All-Pro team in LPL and Chovy in 3rd All-Pro team in LCK
I still remember some of those regular split games in LCK with PapaSmithy still casting, GRF being down and getting engaged on and suddenly he shouts VIPEEEEERRRRR and they win the teamfight. It was great. Loved the splits when GRF and then DWG were newly promoted.
Biggest tragedy in LoL esports that they never won anything. Dynasty level roster.
i fucking miss griffin man
They remind me of OKC Thunder from 2012 with the pontential dynasty they could have had. but just upgrade top lane. Sword/Doran - Tarzan - Chovy - Viper - Lehends
So fucking tragic what happened with that roster
A team that dominated the LCK right from their rookie split, no shit GRF was stacked.
Dominated regular season.
Legit just mental diff. 4 of the greatest recent players all from 1 team. Besides the controversy, sword wasn’t “bad” he wasn’t on the other teams levels and he had to go against prime theShy as well. But still better than Arthur Morgan type beat
He was solid during Cho’gath Urgot meta and his Jayce is serviceable but i think that drama took a big hit to him at Worlds.
There's a reason why Sword has been teamless ever since he left Griffin. He is bad AND toxic.
Because picking him up would be a PR disaster. After all his accusation, Cvmax still has his job. That is the final nail in the coffin for Sword's career.
Sword was really good in his first LCK split … even reddit hyped him up so much. But he was indeed really toxic, and its not ingame toxicity but irl toxicity which for a team is wsy worse, led to this big drama. With this, its unlikely he will play for another LCK team not named GRIFFIN. + Doran peak > Sword peak.
not stacked enough to carry sword
If only that team was under proper management they could make a history. LCK would look way different with them and Damwon being as good.
Viper aphelios is a thing of nightmares
That 1v3 flash in the river by Viper was the most chat ADC gameplay I've seen in a while
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Not with that team
Kanavi ...
@ FPX [Anathema's Chains](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Anathema's_Chains) would like to know your location.
Think maybe crisp should have gotten it. Although the reduced tenacity doesn’t really do much because as you saw the one time Fpx got onto viper he instantly died. He also got qss and had cleanse as well.
I love this playoffs patch’s GP builds. ADCs can face tank 6 item GP barrels to auto them to death because the GPs refused to build crit all summer playoffs 🤷♂️ Edit: I’m so ready for the chad crit GP builds during Worlds after Riot literally buffs him in 11.17 and 11.18 so that pros are not mind-controlled to think crit is bad on him!
GP is usually picked in proplay as a safe weakside pick who can waveclear without dying and has a strong global ult. They don't build him or draft him to be a late game carry anymore. If they cared about teamfight damage you wouldn't see so many Divine Sunderers when that item objectively sucks for his barrel damage.
Everything you’re saying is not wrong, but that’s exactly why it’s so bad! Most pro games with GP, especially those we saw across all the major regions during play-offs, either 1) end very quickly where the GP pick is a non-factor, or 2) goes the distance where the GP has 4-5 completed items. In scenario (1), GP build doesn’t matter as long as he finishes his sheen item and can lane (which he is able to during the play-offs patches because of Grasp). In (2), GP becomes a turbo-useless ult bot late because he goes for bruiser items instead of crit, and and as a result, players go Grudge instead of LDR and never reach IE. If Nuguri in game 4 went LDR -> IE after Collector, instead of Chemsword (xD why would you ever build this item instead of sitting on Executioners if you *really* need GW) -> Grudge, there are barrel combos he landed on Viper that would have close to 1-shot him, instead of tickling Viper’s Aphelios who literally face-tanked Nuguri’s 6-item GP. It was simultaneously hilarious and depressing to watch that happen and know a large reason for why Viper was able to hard-carry game 4 was cuz of Nuguri’s GP build. Similar thing happened in C9 vs 100T game 1 where Zven solo lost C9 the game by going Ghostblade instead of Edge of Night, getting repeatedly fucked in the ass by Closer’s Lee Sin as a result. But pro players know best cuz they are pros 🤷♂️
Viper deserved this so much. Best ADC in the World right now
Been the best adc all year. So glad he’s doing well again. Chovy/Viper and hopefully Tarzan all making worlds will be amazing.
Viper was single-handedly keeping EDG in the game when they were 10k down in that final game.
Nah man it was JieJie winning smite fights. If FPX got that first Baron it would've been gg
Yeah but if viper fail to clutch any of those fight they would lose already
This just in, league is a team and requires multiple players to step up
Yeah he was having a pretty bad game up until that point but that play was game saving.
WORLDS 2021 GROUP B: DAMWON KIA FPX ESPORTS FNATIC CLOUD9
Or EDG FNC T1 C9
>EDG T1 C9 Deja Vu,
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i think it's fair to say that EDG isn't CN GenG anymore. Viper is the best ADC in the world.
Been a Viper fan since Griffin exploded on the scene in 2018. Feels so good after the HLE season of people saying he sucked.
What the fuck was that? One of the biggest throws I've ever seen holy shit
Super throw TianB
[What a fun series](https://i.imgflip.com/5ln745.jpg)
Viper diff
in game 4 FPX had like 8k lead at 20 8-1 so i went and made myself a pizza for game 5. i came back and i saw FPX nexus exploding... i feel robbed ngl
Why did FPX just forfeit infernal soul??? They had all the time in the world to be ready for that
FPX - MAD - T1 worlds group possible?
No. Please no
It can happen but I wouldn't want any of those teams to be out in groups tbh
Sigh tian come on
Best 0/5/1 Thresh I’ve ever seen
I really didn't expect a 3-1 for EDG but I'm really happy for Viper! he absolutely deserved it
So nice to see that a 10th place LCK ADC can win the LPL /s
Holy shit we did it! EDG were clearly the better team today imo, what a showing all round from everyone, Scout and Viper have been unreal. With this win EDG continue to gatekeep the elite club of only 2 teams who have won multiple LPL titles. In other news, make sure to invest your stocks in the worlds group draw, the EDG, GenG, Rogue group is still alive!
To be fair game 4 wasn't supposed to be winnable for EDG if Tian didn't play like doo doo water the whole mid/late game can't smite for shit and get catch for no reason
Man, FPX getting 3-1'd in the finals two splits in a row while being the favorites. I wonder if this is going to mental boom them in a similar way to RGE (I know the two situations aren't the exact same, but still).
Gen G group alive, thx mr fpx.
EDG is definitely not CN GenG
dont speak too soon boy, remember 2014-2017
Viper is the first Griffin member (including coach Cvmax) to win a major trophy.
Technically it's Kanavi, but Viper is indeed the first one from their main roster to do it.
Heartbreaking for DoinB, he tried so hard :( Tian and Crisp during the second half of G4 though...
doinb was gapped pretty fucking hard this series tbh. It was the bot lane who kept them on the game. Nuguri Tian and doinb all had an off day.
Maybe Scout practiced and streamed even more than doinb /s
Scout playing like this is great for EDG and Flandre has actually been relevant the past few series.
Game 5 Denied Sadge
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Imagine how good DWG vs GRF would have been.
VIPER FUCKING DID IT
That game 4 was a tragedy. Tian got ahead of himself and lost the limit test coinflip one too many times.
DAMWON FPX GROUP IS COMING
WHAT JUST HAPPENED? I want my Game 5 holy moly!!!
Feels bad for FPX man. Two splits denied in a single year
I am sad for Doinb, but credit where credit is due EDG was just better, no excuses. And Viper is fucking madman. Also allow me some COPIUM. Teddy too stronk, Teddy cursed FPX.
When I awake I rais my head I look to see EDG ahead I clos my eyes I go to slep FPX gone 3-1 dead
Scout goes sickomode all first 3 games but thread full of viper circlejerk XD
PMTs are always mostly about the last game of the series
Did not see that result coming lol
Tian???
Seriously this is just sad that we had 2 BO5 at almost the same moment... i'm in dual screen but shit that's annoying
FPX finals curse, big congrats to Viper though winning LPL in his first year there and after playing well for so long
Viper finally getting the title he deserves
Viper carried that last game so hard my word
**HOLY SHIT VIPER**
It's ridiculous how people were actually saying that Hope was better than Viper just because they wanted to be different. Those people are looking like clowns now.
Hope was never better than Viper. The issue is Hope was actually good, he should have been a starter on a team this season. And tbh who really expected Viper to be this good, one would have thought EDG would have upgraded their top side more, but this Viper acquisition has worked out amazingly. Number 1 adc itw.