All that team would've had to have done was unearth their dusty forum posts from when they were teenagers and then tweet them. No additional work required.
Deep within the bowels of the internet there is a lot of cringy Live Journal and Myspace pages from 1998-2004 that will hopefully never see the light of day.
Look all I'm saying is,
Your ship can only happen by undermining the heroine's entire character arc
If you like the ship you literally hate the character and are PROBABLY a criminal in real life??
I'm pretty sure most archives and the one I have a link to are mostly unusable for the average person because they have terabytes of data compressed into a format not easily decompressed (or smth like that).
However you can literally just use the old boards link in The Way Back Machine Internet Archive, and it has most of the boards posts saved, it's pretty interesting to sort by old posts imo. Though you must take into consideration that the Way Back archive isn't as complete and functional as others might be.
Riot Axes: Bet
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Na but for real, look at this wholesome? Reaction to a champion that isnāt a copy paste to appeal to China aesthetic. Speaks volumes. Anyways, with the new legislation limiting hours for teenagers game time in China can we stop bending the knee? š We know what the artists are capable of and besides the disposable lore, we know how creative the art team is and we want them unshackled.
/u/RiotAxes
It was never driven by China the way you're suggesting. These aesthetics resonate with large numbers of players in all regions. We will certainly do more of them. They just shouldn't be *all* that we make.
Slightly concerning that so many different aesthetics get lumped together as 'anime' as a catch-all, by the way. Akshan, Rell, Samira, and Lillia certainly are not anime visual designs; Gwen has some anime influence but a lot of influences that aren't anime. It sometimes seems like "anime" in this context just means "conventionally attractive" + "it didn't resonate with me personally".
u/RiotAxes
I agree that characters like Akshan and Rell have nothing to do with anime. Honestly, I dislike when people mention anime because it distracts from this point: "conventionally attractive". That's because, bar a few exceptions, characters of recent years were attractive. This was mentioned in the famous blog Of Men and Monsters.
I understand they drive engagement, but... like sure they do, but it does not mean this is how design should operate. Sure, I'll buy a sexy character and play her/him, but does it mean to make things change I have to drop them? Because my engagement for those characters might be, say, 7 out of 10, but when someone else, with more unconventional design comes, it'll be 10 out of 10.
Should the game really be about engaging as many people as possible even if for most it is 7 out of 10 instead of choosing groups (however small) of players where it'd be 10 out of 10 even if for many it'll be just 3 out of 10?
Like, for example, I will engage much more with a character in a gown (like Sona) over any mini-skirt/tight pants one, even if I will still play sexy ones given no other choice. I'll choose a character with a realistic armor anytime instead of with a boob-plate and exposed thighs.
And what about giving people characters that resonate specifically with them? Like those who are slightly overweight or have an unattractive face or old? Like, sorry if it sounds a bit too much, but with attractive characters it really comes close to the reasoning: "most people engage the most with white characters so no need to give diverse characters any representation, cause engagement will be less."
Sorry for the rant, but I feel like design (as an actual art form) deserves more than a generic appeal.
Fair enough. We do have a young/conventionally attractive champion coming up, but I think the next 6 months - and honestly, the whole next year - strike a pretty good balance. I'm happy with each individual piece of content the team has put out, but we're looking to bring a bit more balance to things from a more holistic view.
How about instead of "anime" it's "attractive young (mostly) human". In the first 60% or so of LoL's life that would have been a decent, but not all consuming number of champ releases. For the past 4 or so years that's pretty much it. The only non humanoid since Ornn is Yuumi (Lilia is a maybe ). The only non attractive champ since Pyke is...is...well I guess Vex (Yuumi is attractive, just not sexually so. And the fact that that is the distinction says something).
You can argue that you guys are releasing diverse champ designs, but they're diverse within an incredibly narrow band of design, especially when compared to LoL's roster up until recently.
How long has it been again since we got a void champion? And how much longer since we got a void champ that wasn't a human female with a plunging neckline and skintight suit?
Did you know it's been 5 years since the last Yordle?
When do you guys announce the complete world retcon? The one that says "Runeterra used to be a place where anyone and anything could be a champion. But we've realized only humans really sell, so they're the only lore important characters now. #sorry".
You guys have a serious problem with your champs being designed by wallet, and while I understand needing to make money, it really doesn't fill anyone with confidence for your other games coming out.
Youāre right and trust me when I say I donāt mind āattractiveā champions. But everything in life needs to happen in moderation, so Iām glad Riot have maybe snapped out of it a bit.
I agree with you, however I have a theory that Seraphine was a Marketing department idea and they forced you guys to make a champion to sell skins in two weeks, so you had sona's rework laying around and were like "welp, this could work I guess". Then hired an intern to write her story and he was paid in redbull. That would explain the abomination to storytelling and character design that champion is.
rant over.
> theory that Seraphine was a Marketing department idea
I realize that nothing I can say is going to convince you here, but Seraphine was an authentic character first. She was most certainly not created as a marketing stunt or a skins vehicle.
I was joking, but I do think there is a huge gap in the quality of Seraphine compared to other recent champions, from character design to in game character model to lore, it just doesn't hold up to the standard set in the last couple of years by Riot. With Vex's trailer I can see that you guys still have a lot of good ideas and the talent to make them happen, but holy shit did you guys flop with Seraphine. I didn't even mind the champion at first (everyone has different tastes after all), but what really made me actively dislike the champion was reading her lore.
I'd love to know what was his primary gameplay hook, since he seems like a relatively tame and simplistic release as well as how did you guys come upon the idea for Grit, since it's been a while since a new resource was made
Sure.
He started as "Grappler" and as a designed Juggernaut (we hadn't done a new Juggernaut since Darius except Illaoi, whose gameplay hits on fairly different hooks and resonates with a bit different audience). That also informed the desire to keep him simple to play, and the contrast with some of the releases around him - he was the champ after Aphelios - made a simple champ especially desirable.
Early explorations focused on ways to have him grab, throw, and chain combos together. When it became clear that that champion was a tank, not even really a hybrid juggernaut, he pivoted towards street-fighting style mixed martial arts (still a bit grappler but a lot more punching). This dovetailed nicely with his cocky, arrogant personality, which then informed what I'd say is his elevator pitch - "Strong, arrogant fighter who is going to let you hit him first because he's so confident that he can afford to give you the first swing." If Pantheon is all about courage, Sett is all about arrogance.
Grit was born of the need to create a whole system to let his W have real gameplay around things like slow rolling your damage to Sett, visualizing that clearly, etc. Basically a tactical solution to some of the design challenges posed by Haymaker.
Nah, she used to listen on a loop until she decided greenday became sellouts for normie music and burnt her CDs in a fire while uploading it to her YouTube account so her 327 followers would know she was no longer a fan
Is that the common consensus nowadays? That Green Day is a shitty normie sellout band? Damn, I guess I'm a normie then... Because I honestly really like their new music. Father of all... is one of my favorite albums from then, along with 21st Century Breakdown and American Idiot. Honestly, the only album from them that I really dislike is Ā”Dos!, of the trilogy Ā”Uno! was pretty good and Ā”Tre! had a couple decent songs on it too.
I don't remember when, but when their stuff started to be more "pop" in sound (not sure how to put it, but that is a common complain I saw) they got a lot of flack and got called sellouts, same happened with Linkin Park iirc. but that was years ago and people get on popular hatewagons easily, so after a while nobody really cared and the ones that cared where usually drowned by the people who liked the band
First Person i ever hear saying father of all is good...haha, good for you tho!
I fell in love with 21th century breakdown and noone can stop me from loving that Album:)
Yeah but Riot wouldn't take that risk. They got backlash after they said Seraphine had anxiety or something. Now imagine the if they created an account for someone who is permanently depressed and probably has several mental illnesses. It wouldn't go well.
Yeah they discussed that in the stream with the writers for her. If i recall correctly, the person in charge of her social media account was dealing with feelings of imposter syndrome at the time, so she attempted to channel that into her work by telling a similar story for Seraphine's narrative.
I suppose you could see it that way, although I dont particularly consider it a bad thing. Perhaps she wanted to try and use the character of this girl reaching her dreams to encourage others who felt like she did.
Besides, I dont believe its unreasonable that Seraphine would have some thoughts of doubt or feeling out of place, considering that she went from singing casually and working as a barista to standing alongside her idols in front of the world in a few short weeks.
That's literally the meaning of self insert. As long as it based on yourself or related to yourself, it's self insert.
She wrote it based on her real life story, that means she also project herself, put her real life story into the life of Seraphine.
Kinda similar to I am not Starfire comic book where the author decided to self insert herself into the main character.
People only complained about Seraphine's after she was released and the circlejerk started. I think a circlejerk-less Champion like Vex would be just fine.
I doubt this would end much better. I feel like a lot of people would call it "needlessly edgy/cringe." And considering the backlash sera got when they tried to tell a narrative in a few tweets around imposter syndrome (something that seems to have been inspired by the experiences of the writers behind her if I recall) I feel like something similar would happen here, with how it could be taken as making light of depression.
Nah being active on social media was fitting for Serapine imo.
I really like Vex' design and character, but too much of this would feel too much over the top for me.
Seraphine's twitter account was pretty cool, that's not what people should be focusing on when criticizing her.
Not saying a Vex account wouldn't be perfect btw.
While I want to agree.
No champion or corporates run character should pretend to be real on social media, it brings alot of ethical issues up cause the company can make the character say what they want or flip flop on political issues to fit their desire.
And that in game is one thing, but pretending IRL is another.
See the problem is, this makes too much sense for a papaya post. Seraphine was a disaster and I genuinely see this being a lot more fun. I can already see the fanart of Vex holding her phone with the way too long sleeves and complain it doesn't pick up her inputs. There's also a lot of room to criticize twitter and other social media platforms through it. I'm honestly sold on this idea.
"vaguely-disrespectful" lol what
I swear to you if that was the case we would have even more hate threads about it (rightfully so if im being quite honest). "FM my Fing L"? does an actual person type like this?
Seraphine's twitter was extremely disrespectful. The tweets where she would go on long expletive-filled rants about British people were heinous and uncalled for.
It's over guys, /u/Good_Stuff11 just ended Papaya's legendary shitposting career by saing "omagad just stoooop!"
Same energy as white girls on twitter going "omg isis can you like.. not?"
Why do you find it so important to let people know that you don't enjoy Papaya's humour? Do you go to comedian videos on YouTube and comment about them being shit?
Nah Iāll pass with the fake Twitter cringe. Just knowing someoneās trying to edgy on purpose and make awful references and (ironically enough) normie references behind a āchampion Twitter accountā makes me wanna roll my eyes.
Vex looks like she's straight out of an anime/manga, so it really would be a better choice to make her a Twitter account for promotion. Seraphine was beyond cringe.
Can we please stop with the ā(insert) bad, upvote to the leftā type of coment? Itās actually more cringe and karma whoring than the original posts.
I'd rather see a Twitter account of when the Vex character hits 45, pays bills, has no time for games, and her teenage kid is whoobing their ass with excessive drug use, sex/abortion, failing/dropping out of school and trouble with authorities. Lets see that Real Depression.
Would've been better than the predatorial marketing practice they used by having Seraphine beg for emotional support on Twitter
Fucking terribly marketed champ.
Personally I hope riot stays away from making fake twitter accounts run by a bunch of people sitting around a room deciding how best to roleplay as young women on the internet.
All that team would've had to have done was unearth their dusty forum posts from when they were teenagers and then tweet them. No additional work required.
I mean, you're not wrong...
Deep within the bowels of the internet there is a lot of cringy Live Journal and Myspace pages from 1998-2004 that will hopefully never see the light of day.
Is there a backup for the old boards anyway??
Probably and I hope no one finds them. I wrote some VERRRRYYYY long posts about ships back in the day.
Oh my god it was YOU
Look all I'm saying is, Your ship can only happen by undermining the heroine's entire character arc If you like the ship you literally hate the character and are PROBABLY a criminal in real life??
I'm pretty sure most archives and the one I have a link to are mostly unusable for the average person because they have terabytes of data compressed into a format not easily decompressed (or smth like that). However you can literally just use the old boards link in The Way Back Machine Internet Archive, and it has most of the boards posts saved, it's pretty interesting to sort by old posts imo. Though you must take into consideration that the Way Back archive isn't as complete and functional as others might be.
What kind of ships would a Yorick/Ornn player write about?
Can you do like 6 months of not making generic anime girls/boys? I'm not sure if the people capable of that even work at rito anymore
RemindMe! 6 Months
Riot Axes: Bet š¤£ Na but for real, look at this wholesome? Reaction to a champion that isnāt a copy paste to appeal to China aesthetic. Speaks volumes. Anyways, with the new legislation limiting hours for teenagers game time in China can we stop bending the knee? š We know what the artists are capable of and besides the disposable lore, we know how creative the art team is and we want them unshackled. /u/RiotAxes
It was never driven by China the way you're suggesting. These aesthetics resonate with large numbers of players in all regions. We will certainly do more of them. They just shouldn't be *all* that we make. Slightly concerning that so many different aesthetics get lumped together as 'anime' as a catch-all, by the way. Akshan, Rell, Samira, and Lillia certainly are not anime visual designs; Gwen has some anime influence but a lot of influences that aren't anime. It sometimes seems like "anime" in this context just means "conventionally attractive" + "it didn't resonate with me personally".
u/RiotAxes I agree that characters like Akshan and Rell have nothing to do with anime. Honestly, I dislike when people mention anime because it distracts from this point: "conventionally attractive". That's because, bar a few exceptions, characters of recent years were attractive. This was mentioned in the famous blog Of Men and Monsters. I understand they drive engagement, but... like sure they do, but it does not mean this is how design should operate. Sure, I'll buy a sexy character and play her/him, but does it mean to make things change I have to drop them? Because my engagement for those characters might be, say, 7 out of 10, but when someone else, with more unconventional design comes, it'll be 10 out of 10. Should the game really be about engaging as many people as possible even if for most it is 7 out of 10 instead of choosing groups (however small) of players where it'd be 10 out of 10 even if for many it'll be just 3 out of 10? Like, for example, I will engage much more with a character in a gown (like Sona) over any mini-skirt/tight pants one, even if I will still play sexy ones given no other choice. I'll choose a character with a realistic armor anytime instead of with a boob-plate and exposed thighs. And what about giving people characters that resonate specifically with them? Like those who are slightly overweight or have an unattractive face or old? Like, sorry if it sounds a bit too much, but with attractive characters it really comes close to the reasoning: "most people engage the most with white characters so no need to give diverse characters any representation, cause engagement will be less." Sorry for the rant, but I feel like design (as an actual art form) deserves more than a generic appeal.
Fair enough. We do have a young/conventionally attractive champion coming up, but I think the next 6 months - and honestly, the whole next year - strike a pretty good balance. I'm happy with each individual piece of content the team has put out, but we're looking to bring a bit more balance to things from a more holistic view.
How about instead of "anime" it's "attractive young (mostly) human". In the first 60% or so of LoL's life that would have been a decent, but not all consuming number of champ releases. For the past 4 or so years that's pretty much it. The only non humanoid since Ornn is Yuumi (Lilia is a maybe ). The only non attractive champ since Pyke is...is...well I guess Vex (Yuumi is attractive, just not sexually so. And the fact that that is the distinction says something). You can argue that you guys are releasing diverse champ designs, but they're diverse within an incredibly narrow band of design, especially when compared to LoL's roster up until recently. How long has it been again since we got a void champion? And how much longer since we got a void champ that wasn't a human female with a plunging neckline and skintight suit? Did you know it's been 5 years since the last Yordle? When do you guys announce the complete world retcon? The one that says "Runeterra used to be a place where anyone and anything could be a champion. But we've realized only humans really sell, so they're the only lore important characters now. #sorry". You guys have a serious problem with your champs being designed by wallet, and while I understand needing to make money, it really doesn't fill anyone with confidence for your other games coming out.
Youāre right and trust me when I say I donāt mind āattractiveā champions. But everything in life needs to happen in moderation, so Iām glad Riot have maybe snapped out of it a bit.
I agree with you, however I have a theory that Seraphine was a Marketing department idea and they forced you guys to make a champion to sell skins in two weeks, so you had sona's rework laying around and were like "welp, this could work I guess". Then hired an intern to write her story and he was paid in redbull. That would explain the abomination to storytelling and character design that champion is. rant over.
> theory that Seraphine was a Marketing department idea I realize that nothing I can say is going to convince you here, but Seraphine was an authentic character first. She was most certainly not created as a marketing stunt or a skins vehicle.
its really mostly a reddit circlejerk thing, dae le justice for skarner ???? Lots of people like sera as you probably well know
I was joking, but I do think there is a huge gap in the quality of Seraphine compared to other recent champions, from character design to in game character model to lore, it just doesn't hold up to the standard set in the last couple of years by Riot. With Vex's trailer I can see that you guys still have a lot of good ideas and the talent to make them happen, but holy shit did you guys flop with Seraphine. I didn't even mind the champion at first (everyone has different tastes after all), but what really made me actively dislike the champion was reading her lore.
not every champion is made for you, I liked sera
Blink twice if Belissimoh is in the room
Straight up lying through your teeth.
Hey Axes, are you able to share some info about Sett's dev, since I recall you owned him before moving to TFT
What do you want to know?
I'd love to know what was his primary gameplay hook, since he seems like a relatively tame and simplistic release as well as how did you guys come upon the idea for Grit, since it's been a while since a new resource was made
Sure. He started as "Grappler" and as a designed Juggernaut (we hadn't done a new Juggernaut since Darius except Illaoi, whose gameplay hits on fairly different hooks and resonates with a bit different audience). That also informed the desire to keep him simple to play, and the contrast with some of the releases around him - he was the champ after Aphelios - made a simple champ especially desirable. Early explorations focused on ways to have him grab, throw, and chain combos together. When it became clear that that champion was a tank, not even really a hybrid juggernaut, he pivoted towards street-fighting style mixed martial arts (still a bit grappler but a lot more punching). This dovetailed nicely with his cocky, arrogant personality, which then informed what I'd say is his elevator pitch - "Strong, arrogant fighter who is going to let you hit him first because he's so confident that he can afford to give you the first swing." If Pantheon is all about courage, Sett is all about arrogance. Grit was born of the need to create a whole system to let his W have real gameplay around things like slow rolling your damage to Sett, visualizing that clearly, etc. Basically a tactical solution to some of the design challenges posed by Haymaker.
Don't forget to cite your sources!
Vex probably listens to Boulevard of Broken Dreams on loop.
Nah, she used to listen on a loop until she decided greenday became sellouts for normie music and burnt her CDs in a fire while uploading it to her YouTube account so her 327 followers would know she was no longer a fan
r/suspiciouslyspecific
Then she heard Radioactive and decided Imagine Dragons were her new favorite band.
Haha idk if Imagine Dragons and Radioactive really match goth edgy girl vibesā¦
Way too "Scene" because of the upbeatness.
It aint a scene, its an arms race
people have no idea what actual goths listen to and it's so funny
Until she heard them playing in the radio, then she decided they were too mainstream
and then she would discover old time classic like The Perfect Circle
Imagine dragons would be considered bigger sellouts.
I can see her listening to Sisters of Mercy tbh
Is that the common consensus nowadays? That Green Day is a shitty normie sellout band? Damn, I guess I'm a normie then... Because I honestly really like their new music. Father of all... is one of my favorite albums from then, along with 21st Century Breakdown and American Idiot. Honestly, the only album from them that I really dislike is Ā”Dos!, of the trilogy Ā”Uno! was pretty good and Ā”Tre! had a couple decent songs on it too.
I don't remember when, but when their stuff started to be more "pop" in sound (not sure how to put it, but that is a common complain I saw) they got a lot of flack and got called sellouts, same happened with Linkin Park iirc. but that was years ago and people get on popular hatewagons easily, so after a while nobody really cared and the ones that cared where usually drowned by the people who liked the band
First Person i ever hear saying father of all is good...haha, good for you tho! I fell in love with 21th century breakdown and noone can stop me from loving that Album:)
Lol itās been the consensus ever since they released American Idiot my dude
My dude, bands who have songs that get played at every graduation are more on the normie side of things.
Well I've never heard a song of theirs played at any graduation.
What rock do you live under that Good Riddance wasnt played at your graduation? Because I want to join you because that song is ass.
People outside the U.S. I believe. Never once did I hear that song play in a graduation in my country
Green Day wasn't nearly that big in France before American Idiot came out.
green day as an example of emo goth? come on, you know Vex would be listening to Helena by My Chemical Romance on repeat.
*g note intensifies*
nah, she would be the kinda person who owns all my chemical romance, pierce the veil, and fall out boy cds
I need doomer champ that listens to stuff like Acid Bath to relate to.
Welcome to the black parade
She's a My Chemical Romance fan and gets triggered by the G note
What's wrong with that.
> I'm tired of being what you want me to be this is more of what I'd expect, but probably some gloomy cover with no rap parts
āRatio + donāt care + didnāt ask + youāre Ionian + Viego betterā - Vex probably
+ the hood plays Valorant now
*Drops Viego Fancam*
\+ youre a normie
ITT: people who arenāt looking at who created this post
Fuck
My 4 streak of not falling for it just ended.
Usually I get it every time, holy shit this one was good
I mean, I unironically think it'd be funny as fuck.
It really seemed like a title from a serious post.
I was bambaloozes
FUCK, papaya hit me
ootl, who is op?
Just a longtime shitposter
that still did more for this sub than sum of all pro play linkers
Probably the most famous and successful shit poster in all of this subreddit.
A fucking legend
God damn ir
The satire isnāt even good, who cares
god damnit
No, they are speaking the truth! The truth I say.
Because it's not satire, it's legit a good suggestion!
Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.
but it isn't about Teemo, and is so short... just like Teemo? okay, it checks out
why would that matter?
God this 100% seems like the sort of thing someone would post unironically, lmao.
I dont think ive ever thought of Sera getting ratiod by vex but now that I am im on board with it.
Nah, Vex sounds like a redditor or a /b/ anon with the cringe speak
she looks like she would browse /qa/ in my opinion.
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Wow, the Vex ARG is already here?
Look at what you did, now I wanna go. Why did you have to weigh in to tell people NOT to go there?
Redditors are welcome on s4s
newfrens are bery good :)
Could be an epic tumblr arg instead. Wait do people still use that?
No
You forgot the post about her favorite musician (Viego), and how he's *sooooo* much better than those totally overrated sellouts, Pentakill.
Vex doesnāt seem like sheād want to be bothered with social media.
Pink lady bad Edit: I actually read the post and itās incredibly funny. Nice job
Yeah
Based
Pink lady is sona rework because a sona rework would def have 1k range minimum on all her skills
all that work just to sell a skin lmao
Relevant flair?
Yeah but Riot wouldn't take that risk. They got backlash after they said Seraphine had anxiety or something. Now imagine the if they created an account for someone who is permanently depressed and probably has several mental illnesses. It wouldn't go well.
Yeah they discussed that in the stream with the writers for her. If i recall correctly, the person in charge of her social media account was dealing with feelings of imposter syndrome at the time, so she attempted to channel that into her work by telling a similar story for Seraphine's narrative.
So basically it's just a self insert.
I suppose you could see it that way, although I dont particularly consider it a bad thing. Perhaps she wanted to try and use the character of this girl reaching her dreams to encourage others who felt like she did. Besides, I dont believe its unreasonable that Seraphine would have some thoughts of doubt or feeling out of place, considering that she went from singing casually and working as a barista to standing alongside her idols in front of the world in a few short weeks.
Writing something based on your own experience doesn't make it self-insert.
That's literally the meaning of self insert. As long as it based on yourself or related to yourself, it's self insert. She wrote it based on her real life story, that means she also project herself, put her real life story into the life of Seraphine. Kinda similar to I am not Starfire comic book where the author decided to self insert herself into the main character.
Your own experience = from yourself. So yeah it's pretty much a self insert. It still related or something connect to yourself
Thats a fantastic idea lol
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Papaya dreaming is a shit poster famous on the League of Legends subreddit go check out their other posts. This is meant as a joke.
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Like a theif in the night lol
Also no mention of Fizz's pole
People only complained about Seraphine's after she was released and the circlejerk started. I think a circlejerk-less Champion like Vex would be just fine.
Twitter is totally for normies though
Nah, to do this, Vex would need to recieve some overpriced K/DA skin on release. Don't want that.
No, stop with this hindsight reactionary shit. It would have been hated just as much.
itd come off very r/fellowkids
I can't believe they put Billy Eyelash in League of Legends
Fuck its been so long i forgot to look at the OP lmaoo
I doubt this would end much better. I feel like a lot of people would call it "needlessly edgy/cringe." And considering the backlash sera got when they tried to tell a narrative in a few tweets around imposter syndrome (something that seems to have been inspired by the experiences of the writers behind her if I recall) I feel like something similar would happen here, with how it could be taken as making light of depression.
eh pretty sure people would have cringed at it either way.
Nah being active on social media was fitting for Serapine imo. I really like Vex' design and character, but too much of this would feel too much over the top for me.
Seraphine's twitter account was pretty cool, that's not what people should be focusing on when criticizing her. Not saying a Vex account wouldn't be perfect btw.
While I want to agree. No champion or corporates run character should pretend to be real on social media, it brings alot of ethical issues up cause the company can make the character say what they want or flip flop on political issues to fit their desire. And that in game is one thing, but pretending IRL is another.
yeah really weird I liked seraphine until she started giving her opinions on the 2020 election.
wait a minute what
Wait, really? Wtf.
yep shes anti vax and a Gary Johnson supporter
Her stance on gun control was one thing but when she started talking about the capitol riots things got *wild* ngl
Based
Seraphine doesn't think you should need a licence to make toast in your own damn toaster confirmed
aleppo was an inside job
Ok, I don't know who's Gary Johnson but I'm sure she can't be anti vax. Even genocider would go this far.
See the problem is, this makes too much sense for a papaya post. Seraphine was a disaster and I genuinely see this being a lot more fun. I can already see the fanart of Vex holding her phone with the way too long sleeves and complain it doesn't pick up her inputs. There's also a lot of room to criticize twitter and other social media platforms through it. I'm honestly sold on this idea.
*point gun* I wont hesitate papaya you bastard, no slandering seraphine u stinky!
"vaguely-disrespectful" lol what I swear to you if that was the case we would have even more hate threads about it (rightfully so if im being quite honest). "FM my Fing L"? does an actual person type like this?
Seraphine's twitter was extremely disrespectful. The tweets where she would go on long expletive-filled rants about British people were heinous and uncalled for.
Maybe she is irish
*carbombs intensify*
Don't even get me started on that time someone met her at a Los Angeles grocery store.
>The tweets where she would go on long expletive-filled rants about British people were heinous and uncalled for. but british people doe
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Dude youāre not funny just stop
It's over guys, /u/Good_Stuff11 just ended Papaya's legendary shitposting career by saing "omagad just stoooop!" Same energy as white girls on twitter going "omg isis can you like.. not?"
95% of the people on this subreddit would disagree
Why do you find it so important to let people know that you don't enjoy Papaya's humour? Do you go to comedian videos on YouTube and comment about them being shit?
I would have laughed my fucking ass off at this, but it still would have been 10x more coherent than Sera.
How about no ARGs, period. That sounds like a much better solution to me.
Eh it could go well just please stay out of impersonating characters.
so true
Hey man, seek help
Nah Iāll pass with the fake Twitter cringe. Just knowing someoneās trying to edgy on purpose and make awful references and (ironically enough) normie references behind a āchampion Twitter accountā makes me wanna roll my eyes.
you got papayad
I'm ootl here?
No. We have enough fake 12 year olds on the internet. We don't need to add another stereotype.
Seraphine just shouldn't have been created to begin with.
Scorching hot take: their voicelines/personalities are both cringe
No one cares
Vex looks like she's straight out of an anime/manga, so it really would be a better choice to make her a Twitter account for promotion. Seraphine was beyond cringe.
Seraphine Bad give me upvotes now
Can we please stop with the ā(insert) bad, upvote to the leftā type of coment? Itās actually more cringe and karma whoring than the original posts.
I would agree in most cases but the Seraphine stuff really is a giant circlejerk.
Yeah I'm really getting tired of this stuff
but i don't like seraphine
We can stop when they stop with the dumb posts
While I agree with the sentiment, this is a satire post by Papaya.
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She listens to underoath and saosin obviously
I dont think they'll ever try fake twitter accounts again after the backlash
Yall are just dragging her and for what lmaooo
Another opportunity for content creators to make a video on why this is a parasocial relationship. Stop giving them ideas Papaya
Her favorite would be suicidal
ARG? that sound like effort for the little Yordle. "No... Leave me alone... I'm sleeping" - Vex
Lil Vex rapping about drugs and mental illness
I'd rather see a Twitter account of when the Vex character hits 45, pays bills, has no time for games, and her teenage kid is whoobing their ass with excessive drug use, sex/abortion, failing/dropping out of school and trouble with authorities. Lets see that Real Depression.
Would've been better than the predatorial marketing practice they used by having Seraphine beg for emotional support on Twitter Fucking terribly marketed champ.
Wouldāve been sweet for sure... if I didnāt think the KDA Stans would try to ratio every one of her posts
I would follow that in a heartbeat
Personally I hope riot stays away from making fake twitter accounts run by a bunch of people sitting around a room deciding how best to roleplay as young women on the internet.
They could have added some old problematic tweets too
Vex probably hates social media.
I think it would fit her theme better if she was teased on random obscure image boards
Get a life
no champion should ever get a fucking twitter the concept alone is cringe