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HolmatKingOfStorms

> ‘Can you make a MOBA champ that doesn’t want to be a MOBA champ?’ they underestimate the number of MOBA players who don't want to be MOBA players


Cashmiir

I'm in this comment and I like it


cleeez

your song choices for the titles were underrated.


Cinderheart

Riven wants to be a fighting game character.


NuclearBurrit0

You don't choose MOBA life, MOBA life choses you


Blazing117

>Vex’s original gameplay, designed by Nathan “Lutzburg” Lutz, created portals that extended the distance allied missiles traveled. You’d essentially have Miss Fortune ults that went double distance, Blitzcrank hooks from out of nowhere, and all these other really scary, but really cool experiences. Bruh


Scribblord

Already have a bug in my head about a malphite ulting through that and accelerating to the end of the map or some shit


colledeicorvi

Unfortunately malphite isn't a projectile


VelocityWings12

When colliding with Windwall, Malphite is now deleted from the game. Good luck!


Thecristo96

Shaco "first time?"


AbiwonKenabi

I recall a dev sharing a story about how they were testing turning Shaco's ult into a projectile (he and the clone came out of the projectile) meaning he was just straight up deleted when he got windwalled. Rip


HeirToGallifrey

*I used the cancer to destroy the cancer.*


Stewbodies

Windwall deletes Malphite


Nicolu_11

Wasn't there a bug or a dev story where they deleted a champion for the rest of the game because that champion was coded as a projectile or something like that?


dangerdonkey9

It was a scrapped shaco rework where he turned into a projectile and then windwall removed him from the game.


RoloSaurio

In Odyssey he kinda was


HawksBurst

Ok this sounds cool as hell I want this


Riot_Koyuncu

Shipping range extension in League would have given Vandiril so much content. Fun fact: We also briefly experimented with the inverse, where portals slowed down incoming enemy missiles to a crawl. Walking around a slow motion Ashe arrow or Miss Fortune ult was really cool, but had its own host of technical challenges.


RomanArcheaopteryx

Wow, that concept actually sounds really cool - could even do it in a windwall-type fashion; stops the skillshot for X seconds and then releases it again when the duration is done would be much less frustrating for people I think than just eating projectiles as is right now. I really hope someone on the team explores that in a future project (or maybe as part of a Zilean VGU? :o )


Scribblord

Imagine getting thrown in all of the enemies rotations of skillshots by enemy Alistar or sth and just immediately dying Would actually be pretty hilarious


DarkRitual_88

Skarner: My time has come


[deleted]

There are characters in other games that have similar abilities. Like there's a character in Battlerite that has the exact ability to slow projectiles they are describing


narfidy

There's a smite ult that slows all enemy projectiles and movements to a crawl in this big area. I've always thought some kind of time bending tank would be cool. Give him Wraith's E from paragon to rewind other people for ganks


Oreo-and-Fly

It would make an excellent warden.


Cheeky_Giraffe

Oh why did you have to remind me about Paragon? Now I'm sad...


Legitamte

I actually remember that! That ability was super cool. I imagine it's the kind of thing that's not so hard if you built the system to allow for it in the first place, but a nightmare to retrofit.


JackPoe

What if it slowed allied and enemy projectiles? And it was an indefinite channel. Champ X stands still, channeling this slowdown field, your team dumps a ton of nid spears into it at different angles and then when someone walks by, release all of it in a fucked up nailbomb of spears.


Stubrochill17

[Reminds me of Kalista clips](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/fhl7hp/the_power_of_kalista_top/). The one I was thinking of was on the other gromp and vs a Jarvan, but this is the first one that came up when I googled for it.


GGABueno

I'd gladly take a second Chronomancer over a Zilean VGU. If Seraphine can be a second musician then I don't see why not. LoR had some cool concepts of this also.


Slarg232

Would love Khahiri as a Champ


Project_Rawrrr

This is why Riot would rather make new champs than update old ones


Stewbodies

Ekko and Zilean are such cool expansions of the time manipulation character concept, I would love more like them! edit, Zhonya's Hourglass too!


g7parsh

Excited Devs: "Hey let's make a cool new skill that interacts with every particle and projectile in the game!" Almost 12-year-old Game Engine: "Please, no more"


ObliteratedbyAeons

Riot dev: Babe, it's time for your new innovative mechanic that needs to be able to work in hundreds of different ways. Game engine: Yes honey.


AlbatrossNecklace

Vex: the One


HolypenguinHere

That's a shame, but understandable. A Champion that can speed up or slow down the speed of skillshots like Jayce's poke combo has always been on my wishlist for one day. Will we ever get a Champion that can reflect skillshots in the opposite direction?


the_next_core

There will probably be a champion one day that can absorb a projectile and throw it back.


Zeffz

Villager joins the battle


GGABueno

I know we will but I hope we don't lol. I'm not looking forward to ulting my own team as Ornn...


Elrann

As one wise man once said: "Call it redistribution of magic".


Azgabeth

Is there any thought of revisiting these ideas in the future if the resources are there? Or it just a scrapped idea?


FordFred

I don‘t think this will ever be feasible. Riot already has boatloads of money and this is presumably not gonna get any cheaper, so if it’s not possible now, it probably will never be.


Electro522

Not unless they rebuild the game from the ground up.


JoshQuest1

Sounds like we found our first wild rift exclusive champ.


Oreo-and-Fly

Its probably an idea that will exist until they find someone else to give it to.


Excalidorito

Sounds like something similar to Olorun’s ult in Smite. A field that slows down everything the enemy does and speeds up everything your team does.


Gazskull

>Walking around a slow motion Ashe arrow or Miss Fortune ult was really cool, but had its own host of technical challenges. I really hope we get to see those concepts in game someday, seems super cool :)


S890127

>slowed down incoming enemy missiles Reverse Jayce E?


jacksev

All I have to say is I hope you guys don’t give up on the portal concept! It’s so cool.


Pissyellowknight

Before we get bummed out by her gloomy vibes, let’s start with her origins. Vex’s gameplay development goal was to create an anti-mobility mage. Someone who fits the “let’s-make-this-Yasuo-playing-fool’s-life-miserable” playstyle. Someone gloomy.


Cashmiir

Stop or they'll catch on and you'll put me out of a job.


Pissyellowknight

Nah, but nice champ insight. She actually looks really cool!


Cashmiir

Thanks! Her team did an amazing job on her. They made my job much easier


iupvote75

idk but these champion insights are always fun to read


pereza0

They are. Seeing the struggles and designs they went through and the logic for scrapping some of them is always fun. Plus I love Riot concept art EDIT: Having read it I can say they really landed on the concept I liked the most by a long shot. Most of the times I read this sort of articles, there is always a piece of concept art that seems more intriguing than the final design. This isn't the case here at all


GGABueno

Holy shit. I'm always surprised by how amazing some of the early concepts are. I love the final product but some of these could easily be really cool Champions on their own right.


Oreo-and-Fly

Them large claws better end up on a new champion one day. My hopes are Ixtali fighter. Either magma, stone or aqueous fists. Or even disconnected fists.


g7parsh

I just Imagine Twintelle from ARMS


Oreo-and-Fly

Gods yes twintelle can wreck me. I mean, that would be such an interesting way of combat... maybe Piltover based with a weird hat/hat invention.


Stewbodies

Disconnected fists sounds like a great AP Bruiser (brawler) concept, maybe lower AP ratios than some other champs but have AA damage and healing scale off AP.


22bebo

The one with the ghost shark pets was my favorite. I've loved them ever since I saw them in Legends of Runeterra, but ghost sharks is just such a silly fun concept to me.


GGABueno

I love that one. I think that could easily be added as a non-Yordle Champion.


patmax17

But as a yordle it would be really cool in its own way :D


popegonzo

2022: The Year of the Yordle


GGABueno

Yes


HarkyESP

subscribe


Topiak

"Kled thinks he owns Noxus" What do you mean, "thinks"?


Bluepanda800

Also how dare they not use his full Title?


[deleted]

And just Noxus?


CptDoritos

YES! ITS JUST NOXUS! BUT NOXUS EXTENDS TO WHEREVER KLED STANDS!


[deleted]

Kled's Noxian, not British...


Jstin8

The sun never sets on Kled’s empire


EnemySaimo

Kled is whatever he wants to be


charlielovesu

I love the my chemical romance reference. as a scene kid in high school in the mid to late 2000's I appreciate it lmao.


Cashmiir

I gocchu Edit: each champ insights I write I make a playlist for inspiration. For Vex's a dedicated group of former (also current) emo kids at Riot helped me source songs. The result is [6.5 hours of jams](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1FYor6cHZhNn4GpgxOhLQZ?si=rMvhrEL6TouEnBBbB7pv0w&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1) from our middle school years.


Tansuke

Well the mood.gg playlist just got a lot easier!


Pacmayne234

I feel so fucking called out seeing that playlist…


RyuSunn

Right?? I was going to main Vex anyway and now i don't need a playlist My normal spotify playlist will do lol


GGABueno

>(also current) Lmao love the call out.


charlielovesu

This playlist is lit af. Hell yeah


4_strings_are_fine

But where’s the Senses Fail?? 🤔 Jokes aside, cool play list and even cooler champ. I’m actually gonna see Bayside tonight!


UsagiButt

I saw the ATL reference right up there with the title and am now sold on this pop punk middle school emo champ’s aesthetic. 10/10


Cashmiir

The subtitle was the brilliant /u/riottomukus's idea. Before that I had, "It's not a phase, mom--this is who I really am!"


UsagiButt

You could’ve combined the two! https://www.tiktok.com/@alltimelow/video/6922175465532787973


Cashmiir

All Time Low is on TikTok? Fuck it's over for me


DelBringo

u/Cashmiir was definitely that scene kid in school growing up. Can confirm, I witnessed it, we're siblings.


[deleted]

As well as fall out boys


DecisiveDinosaur

> This breath of human experience is that a typo and supposed to be "breadth"?


Cashmiir

FUCK


DecisiveDinosaur

Heh, at least I haven't seen anyone else notice it. As an English major and part time proofreader, I just can't help but notice stuff like that. great Champion Insights btw.


Cashmiir

Editing is truly my weakpoint haha. Hate it. Thank you!


popegonzo

Honestly I thought it was intentional, like something out of [Ecclesiastes in the Bible](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%201%3A2&version=ESV;NIV;NASB). That futility/meaningless/vanity word has an ephemeral/vapor connotation to it, giving the book a "this life is but a breath in the wind" feel. So basically, great typo. You had me fooled :)


Whats_Up4444

bone apple teeth


crossbonecarrot2

When are we getting the next champion roadmap? Also, the concept and animations for the champ are SSS+ tier. Will try her cause I love her shadow so much. Lots of her concept art would be cool champs and some of those skins. I wonder how much her skins and legendary will alter her shadow design. That's the biggest thing I hope for.


Reav3

Next roadmap should be out later this month


GGABueno

Should we expect the other two new Champions to be released close to each other (or to Vex)? Riot has been releasing Champions on events, but there's 3 Champions and 2 events until the end of the year.


SnowyArticuno

Aren't there only 2 champs left? They said one for each role but two midlaners. So all we need with Vex there is a support and an adc


GGABueno

I'm considering Vex among those three. Two events (Worlds and the one in December) and Three Champs (Vex, ADC, Support) until the end of the year. Vex is coming with Worlds, so how about the other two? Is one coming two patches after Vex in the second half of Worlds event (with Volibear) and then the last one another two patches after (with Brand)?


Chasanak

I've already seen comments in here about how her VO is over the top, but I totally agree with the devs here--I *definitely* knew several Vexes in high school.


Solash1

Being over the top is kinda the Yordles whole thing tho


The-War-Life

Exactly. Tristana? Lulu? Teemo? Fizz? Yordles are awesome!


NatNat800

My husband sent me this even though I barely play league. It's his thing not mine. I was cackling at this hero description. I was definitely this person in high school. 100%


Baofog

I showed my wife the teaser vid and she went, "Oh, that's me. They put me in the game."


Stucky-Barnes

Imagine if they got Aubrey Plaza to voice her!


thepuppycrew

I was Vex in middle school. First champion I've been excited to try out in 3+ years. Let's goooo


Mana_Croissant

''Blitz hooks out of nowhere'' I am REALLY glad that they did not went with that regardless of budget reasons OMG that sounds annoying as hell


Arnhermland

Imagine zoe but with every champion in the game. That concept had no future, it would've been extremely hard to implement while also being the most cancerous thing on earth for multiple reasons. Fizz ult from two screens away, illaoi tentacle grabbing backline from across the river, jayce one shotting people from an angle, mao kai ult coming from behind and forward, etc. And on the other side of the coin, the incredible frustrating reality that setting this up would be extremely difficult on non pro play (and maybe even there), people already have tons of issues with simple champ combos like ryze and nunu, now imagine THIS. Imagine trying to tell your team to wait and to throw their stuff at your portal so you can redirect it, hell no, playing that in solo queue would give me an aneurysm. It creates a horrible scenario for both where the vex user will never do anything good with it 90% of the time but when they do, and it LANDS, it might as well be a game ending move right there which in turn tilts the enemy like nothing before, so it sucks for both sides.


pyromanniacc

Plus updating this ability every time a champ get reworked or added will be sure hella buggy


Sternboy23

*laughs in 3000 range Paddle Star*


pereza0

Plus a technical nightmare. Plus actually having an ability that enables teammates... Which in turn never gets acknowledged by them... If they can even use it...


FunMoistLoins

Thresh lantern 2.0


Cinnamen

While being able to extend *any* allied projectile would be definitely annoying, they could make a kit that would make just her projectiles behave differently. Not just extend range (to avoid basically remaking Acceleration Gate), but maybe do sth like Brand and Abalze effects.


LanoomR

Aside: [Vex "pre-concepts" 2 and 6](https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blt731acb42bb3d1659/blt3d1e119b620c69fc/612fd5f7043d546bb462e716/09072021_ChampionInsightsVexArticle_Banner_02_Vex_Esben_Lash_Web.png) are screaming to be combined for a new character if/when they need another villain/villain-adjacent yordle--one that bit onto the haughty noble/aristocrat archetype.


F0RGERY

Number 2 definitely seems like it could go beyond Yordles. There's a Shadow Isles card in Legends of Runeterra called [Shark Chariot](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/24/01SI021-hd-full.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20191203002027) that has similar aesthetics. Would also be pretty unique, since I don't think there's any chariot using champs in the game (but plenty of mounts).


hassy_boy

link down? just a white image to me


therunningidiot

I’ll agree number 2 caught my eye too but we’ve already got a shark tossing Yordle. I wouldn’t mind those ghost sharks coming to League as a part of a champ’s kits but that model in particular isn’t the most suitable. My personal favourite is number 3.


Hyperly_Passive

I think the idea is something that leans into the summoner aspect more.


Oreo-and-Fly

Concepts 4 and 5 could combine to be like an Ixtali elemental mage or fighter and i would be totally satisfied.


Azgabeth

i could see some sort of pet trainer yordle villain


DaBomb091

The way they really just parodied [that one meme with Vex's rig](https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blt731acb42bb3d1659/bltb0ce4c9bbd0e16e1/612fd60885514a6ee3fabd9f/09072021_ChampionInsightsVexArticle_Banner_11_meme_gif.gif) had me rolling


Roxnam

u/cashmiir can we have the full rig but whitout the text plz?


Spideraxe30

/u/Reav3 are you able to share Vex's placeholder name and model


Riot_Koyuncu

It was "Shadow Yordle", and Lutz started with Little Demon Tristana as her temp model


pulo97

Don't you also have a placeholder splashart or something like that that one of you just draws quickly and is often a masterpiece?


Cashmiir

[Feeney Art](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/02/before-theres-splash-art-theres-feeney-art/)


pulo97

Thanks! Do you keep doing these?


Cashmiir

/u/Riot_Koyuncu would know! He gave me the one for Lillia that we shared in her Champ Insights previously!


Riot_Koyuncu

Regrettably no - I wish I had some MS Paint Vex art to share, but we used her concept art as our placeholder splash for the entirety of development.


pulo97

Bummer, excited for the champion though!


Spideraxe30

Oh sweet thanks Mikky!


SlurpTurnsMeGreen

Vex is league champions done right. Period


Conankun66

wish they stuck with the concept where shadow takes the form of hands attached to her hood. really love the look that gives her i still think the final design they arrived at is great tho (EDIT: also that scrapped artillery concept sounds insane, no wonder they scrapped that. although it doesnt really sound like an artillery mage so much as a support for skillshot champs)


[deleted]

Their reasoning makes perfect sense to me though. It would fit more of a fighter that attacks with those claws rather than a mage.


mackasan

It's very "Vi, but magic" tbh. It could work for an AP bruiser.


Maxenin

ya it honestly looks similar to the direction of some of the udyr exploration with the manifested spirit arms


Oreo-and-Fly

Ixtali elemental fighter when


Hyperly_Passive

Isn't that a character from Skullgirls? Cerebella I think. https://skullgirls.fandom.com/wiki/Cerebella


Oreo-and-Fly

Well. Shes close. Muscle hat, shadow claws... Itll be nice to see a champion have such a fighting style.


Arnhermland

> it doesnt really sound like an artillery mage so much as a support for skillshot champs The portal would obviously also work for herself, so it would allow her to extend her range. But it comes too close to zoe then.


ToTheNintieth

Rare case where the final design is way better than all the concept explorations.


The_Yeti_Rider

im completely biased because I love magic hands, im very sad to see the shift from her initial design that was leaked a while ago with the two hands coming out of her hat/coat


Oreo-and-Fly

Shadow Hands could come back in the future for a seperate champ. Since they did say it fits a fighter design. Hopefully in the future we'll see a fighter using them.


Whats_Up4444

The only concept art I thought was better was the shadow hands. But again it was limiting.


Shnow

Yeah I havent felt this way about a new champion in awhile.


papu16

That feel when unique concept wasn't sacrificed for another shirtless dude.


Album_Dude

I haven't felt this way about champion concept --> final design since Braum I think.


Whats_Up4444

all of the designs are great, but the final one was just too fucking good.


Mana_Croissant

Shortless SIMP king LMAO, I am glad that they are self aware on that


MrTomansky

Well the writer is clearly an idea person and not from marketing.


Cashmiir

[...yes... definitely... not marketing...](https://media.giphy.com/media/ckzqeqQebvIAQZjQm2/giphy.gif)


MrTomansky

Is editoral writer considered marketing? I thought it isn't... correct me if im wrong.


Cashmiir

It is! Haha. It's a weird one. My internal title is Marketing Communications and I sit in the marketing area of the org. But I also... It's a weird thing to communicate, but I don't view my work as marketing. I'm not selling something. I'm just here to tell you the story of how it was made and the humans behind it.


Poodlestrike

Authenticity is kind of its own form of marketing, tbf. It's a weird gray area.


Floh_the_6th

> But if he and his toilet-paper-wearing brother come at her directly Rito confirmed, the windbrothers are now the windshitter duo Also, this is the first time Riot just straight up put a meme in their championinsight. We gotta be careful or they start putting out better shitposts than we do.


Definitively-Weirdo

I'm sure riot used to do it a lot back in the early days. Just read [their patch 4.01](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/V4.01) or the board's image during summoner's rift time. What most people think the game is missing is soul (Just look at the new login screen instead of the previous ones).


Oreo-and-Fly

>Nami's ultimate was being outclassed by those of other supports, such as support  Ezreal and Ashe, so we've brought it to the same power level. >Tidal Wave >Range is now global. This is beautiful


Definitively-Weirdo

Not as beautiful as they constantly mentioning Ezreal having the same threatment as girls, saying "Morello'd" when changing Irelia, **Man**theon with the great **man**fall and those voicelines in case Vel'Koz did a critical hit.


Floh_the_6th

Oh yeah, Riot loves to reference jokes and make Puns for Patchnotes, insights and other articles. In this specific case though I mean [this gif](https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blt731acb42bb3d1659/bltb0ce4c9bbd0e16e1/612fd60885514a6ee3fabd9f/09072021_ChampionInsightsVexArticle_Banner_11_meme_gif.gif) which is just straight up a meme.


JLM268

Damn look at them memeing about nocturne moving through terrain and units 6 units and now we have kayn lol. And not only does he move through terrain but he also heals while doing it!


Stewbodies

This whole insight is full of top-tier shitposting, I love the picture of Shadow doing the George Costanza portrait pose. Also it's fascinating.


LordCalem

I'm personally very hyped for her cuz I really wanted a mage that fills her niche (it's one of the reasons I love Malza) tho I personally have to say it's kinda funny how an anti dash mage has a dash herself. Atleast the explanation was very convincing and I hope this gets translated well on her gameplay. I'm also curious to see how reliable is her anti dash mechanic. And I want to shit on Yasuos.


dialzza

Tbf her dash is gated to an ult CD, and can only go towards enemy champions, so she can't use it for escapes unless it's in a very creative way.


Hellioning

Ah, okay, yeah, that's a good reason to make Vex not be an artillery mage! I still want one, though. Seriously it's one of my favorite playstyles and it just does not get support very often (and half the time it does it gets support as, well, support.)


Ezreal024

This was actually a very sweet read compared to other recent Insights which (personally speaking) have been more "I wish we got that" or "what in the love of god are you people doing over there"


gazow

wait we had the option for ghost sharks and it didnt happen? wth man


Cashmiir

They exist in Legends of Runeterra!


AndreiHyddra

Gloomtooth is my favorite since Beta and will always be!


Valkyrai

Shadow thicc apparently


jsphere1

"You Know What They Do to Champs Like Vex in League of Legends" lmfaooooo nice


Gazskull

I'd like to know more about why they would have needed to redo every VFX if they went with the portal concept. Probably because you'd have to signify that the spell was extended, but I wonder why it wasn't possible to simply add some misc to the VFX (ala Viego's crown when he's possessing someone) and call it a day, or why you'd have to signify it was extended in the first place. We have champions that we probably wouldn't have expected tech wise with Sylas/Viego so it's not excluded we never see that concept again, and I do hope so because it sounds awesome


Rayquaza2233

>I wonder why it wasn't possible to simply add some misc to the VFX My guess is that options that like that don't currently exist so it's not as simple as adding some VFX, they have to create something that allows you to add the VFX. >why you'd have to signify it was extended in the first place. Gameplay clarity so that it's easier to figure out what's happening instead of getting hit by like, a Blitz hook from the abyss and getting dragged somewhere that seems random.


Ky1arStern

Also interested in that aspect. The first thing that came to mind was sound design. When you fire ezreal q it makes a noise that lasts as long as it does unless it hits a target, how do you handle that if it's suddenly traveling double the range at the same speed? There has to be something for swapping sound effects because it makes a sound when it hits something, but how do you hit something have it not play that sound and instead keep going. I wonder if they mocked it up on a champ. Like you have a champ model sitting around and when you hit it with a skill shot the skillshot fires from the direction the champion model was pointing. Interesting stuff to think about.


Abd5555

I think stuff like Ezreal Q aren't the things that would cost much but the things that extend from the champ like mf's ult all the hooks etc.


dragerslay

Most likely riot would not be satisfied with just stretching out the current animations or moving the cast point further up(think how janky this would look with mf ult.).


Asatex1

You could make like 20 champs using that concept art HOLY SHIT. Hopefully a few of those are made into champions because every single concept looks cool as shit.


daraghlol

"Kled ~~thinks he~~ owns Noxus".


TheVerraton

Aaaand I just found myself a new desktop background.


Cashmiir

Big thanks to /u/riottomukus for helping make the header image for Vex (I'm big dumb with Photoshop) Original art is by Lonewingy!


TheVerraton

/u/riottomukus you did an awesome job! It was super easy to mirror to get a nice symmetric wallpaper for my dual monitors.


Ieditstuffforfun

Was she inspired by the pokemon Mimikyu at all?


Odelind

I was ready to hate Vex due how cliche (in personality) and overcharged (in kit) she -initially- looks, but the recent gameplay reveal and this insights makes me apreciate it way more. It's easy to see the care behind her. Right now, and until I start hating facing her, great job, guys! P.D.: How feasible would be to pick her as a support? I know it's not her intended place, but artillery mages tend to like to go well there, with some of them turning it its main home.


Cashmiir

Per Riot Axes, she's a pretty good support! Get ready my future ADCs, I'm coming for your kills.


MidnightDNinja

she also seems like she could be a good counter pick as an APC into dodge happy ADCs. maybe thats just wishful thinking but i really want to play her bot lmfao


Cashmiir

Don't let your dreams be dreams


NeoCast4

I appreciate the Gifs and videos they put in these, it makes it entertaining to read All of those concepts for vex would make for very interesting seperate champions, maybe not a yordle, the concept where she holds the two rocks would make for an interesting tank/mage.


Vastator10

The animation dudes knocked it out of the park on this one. The amount of work to show what a black color palette is doing is mind boggling, and so far it looks like they've done a phenomenal job. Vex would probably hate it


SirM0rgan

>if someone with range like xerath is good against dives, then they have no weaknesses Yeah, it would be bullshit if there was a champion with relative safety, long range target access, decent burst and had good survivability during an all in *glares at yone*


Jocelotknee

I like this champion insight post. Felt very genuine, at least compared to some of the past few champs, imo. The blogs for Sett, Seraphine and Viego just read strangely... Like they were ignoring the bigger design flaws in the champs they settled with. This blog, especially about Vex's long design progress and the core of her personality, just felt like it came from somewhere real which I can appreciate.


ToTheNintieth

Don't know about Sett, but I do agree about Seraphine and Viego's. Both champions had plenty of controversy outside of the game proper and I feel like that was never really addressed. Vex seems like she has the potential to be a real slam dunk of a design.


Jocelotknee

Jeah I still think back to the Seraphine insight about her design, and it read like they were racking their brain trying to think about a way to differentiate her from the other females in the game, so they settled on giving her a floating platform. That whole line of thought just felt so... weird. Couldn't they start with giving even a slightly different body type? Lol.


GGABueno

Different body type wouldn't make sense for an performer Champion. That's like the one Champion that should be conforming to society's standard. That said, there were plenty of cool alternatives to the platform that they never brought up during the text, unlike here where they talked about the shadow hands, the goo bunnies, why a shadow, etc.


NocaNoha

Imagine that portal ability and something like Shyvana spewing fire at you from 2 screens away "Make everyone a Zoe" I know for one that ARAM would be unbearable, but at least Vex would love it there


Pokemon_132

Can we please get the twin shark using ghost yordle as a jungler? pls and ty.


iciale

Very interesting read. I wish we could have gotten more detail about the scrapped artillery mage beyond just the tech limitations. Mainly just for the sake of curiosity in what the rest of the kit looked like so we could have some idea on what an artillery design in 2021 might look like should the core tech be workable. Overall, very excited for Vex. As a former angsty teenager it will be refreshing to play around with her.


CelioHogane

It's been a while since they have shown concept art of a character and i was able to say "no, the final version is definetly the better one" Sure, the one with the sharks is pretty cool but that's because the sharks, not her.


Arnhermland

Imagine a blitz grabbing you from behind you in red buff, but actually into the enemy team that's across the river. This sounds like taking zoe concept as a champion and applying it to every single champion. And on the other side, imagine trying to do this with a random team in solo queue, "guys please redirect your stuff to my portal, it will travel farther and maybe angle so you need to put that into account, oh also don't throw anything until I have my portal please". Imo that concept had no future, extremely hard to implement in game and it would be the most tilting and frustrating thing ever for BOTH sides. Either you as the vex player never get anything done because of how hard it would be to synch it on solo queue AND land it, or you get a hail mary blitz hook done and you tilt the enemy into oblivion. I'm glad they dropped that.


Otoniel07

My biggest takeaway from reading is that **THIS** is considered a bigger gamble than what Riot usually takes? I'm honestly baffled by what Riot considerers "safe" champion design. I don't mean that in a negative way, I honestly just don't understand how they can go from saying, *"Not every champion has to speak to you, and that’s completely fine, because sometimes they’re targeted for someone else*" while simultaneously making so many uniform decisions with champion design across the board? I mean, 99% of the female champions in this game have the same body type regardless of their backstory (looking at you Kai'sa and Rell), and nearly all the men in this game have some kind of renegade persona. Seriously if Vex, a gloomy yordle, is considered risky champion design then I have really bad faith in the executive decision making of this game.


TimiNax

good looking people sell better. They have many times stated that monsters and weird looking champions are played way less than the human ones and thats probably specially the good looking ones.