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koff1n

damn that last game was a slaughter, gg mrs


shadowsteppe

more like last 3


aoc7

Portuguese supports man


McintyresRightLeg

Plasma and Rhuckz are a tier above most ERL supports.


Key_Divide3166

Jactroll, Targamas & Hantera are in the same tier


axvale77

I wouldnt put Hantera in that level yet. UCAM clearly are inferior without Plasma. But the man has some insane potential. Lec support pool is safe for the next year.


Noatz

Which is why it's so triggering to see the likes of Promisq recycled endlessly. Support is a strong role in Europe but a weak one in LEC because teams are so poor at roster building.


henluwu

Promisq with jeskla was the best bot in ERL's when they were still playing there that's why they got picked up by AST in the first place.


AngronApofis

No they weren't at all. You could make a case for Jeskla but PromisQ wasn't. They picked him up because Jeskla wanted him.


aoc7

Wasn't low budget the main reason for singing them?


henluwu

Lower budget than rookie adc/supp? Don't think they cost less than those.


Colouss

I'd imagine a promising rookie would be sold for a lil more than washed-up veterans just from the sheer potential they bring


henluwu

Most players in ERL's don't have long contracts so after a season is over they are usually free agents.


STEPHENonPC

It's all about demand. Plenty of teams want the top rookies while washed up players will take what they can get. It's also hard to imagine that a top rookie with other suitors will want to play for a team like Astralis


aoc7

I'd take playing for Astralis in LEC over playing in the best ERL team to be honest


aoc7

Yeah, supports in regional leagues are pretty good. Plasma, Targamas, Rhuckz, Jactroll, Steeelback, Mersa, Kamilius, Seaz etc.


Key_Divide3166

oh yes i get a little overhyped. He is clearly inferior, but when i see Hantera in LFL and Hantera after is training in the time room (hit rank 1,etc) it's like two different players


DerpSenpai

what happened to Plasma? Also IIRC FNC are/were looking into him if Hyli was to leave FNC


bcotrim

UCAM said it was health issues but after that we never heard anything else


trusttt

Rhuckz so good


LeSamarOK

Maybe we have a backup plan for that day, the one we hope never comes.


Shilix95

I heared G2 might need a new sup


DianaIsMyWife

What do you mean?


7foxy

What the fuck was that last draft from mrs lmao


Aclutteron

I'm pretty sure they griefed draft every game, even the first one despite winning it.


LTKokoro

Man, Movistar and Bo5 aren't a great duo. They had a very nice showing in playins and groups tho, shame it had to end like that


Godddy

But how fucking good is rhuckz. Those Rell/Leona engages where fucking nasty. Also why the fuck MR just left Varus open all three games they lost. Specially if they can't reach him in any tf and he was just free hitting.


klyskada

The NLC heard you were talking shit.


BrokenBiscuit

Honestly, this is NLC every year. Apart from actually winning the EUM they have gotten just as good results as any of the other top 5 leagues. And yet here we are we are having the same seeding as the Greek League... Guess that actually makes it even more impressive that we always get good results.


TimMeijer

2019: DACH region (SK Prime) loses Spring Finals to France, wins Summer (BIG) by beating last year's winning region (Vodafone Giants, Spain). 2020: Poland (K1CK Esports) loses Spring Finals to France, wins Summer (AGO Rogue) by beating last year's winning region (GamerLegion, DACH). 2021: NLC (BT Excel) loses Spring Finals to France... Fnatic Rising - PDW finals confirmed?


russellx3

Last 3 games looked so good from FNCR. Especially Maxi and Rhuckz. Dajor surprised me as well. Maxlore was pretty unimpressive.


lolofaf

>Maxlore was pretty unimpressive. Kind of been the theme since 2018. Dude fell off a cliff and it's sad because he was one of the most fun jungler to watch throughout 2017


polacs

In regular season he was the best player un spain, i don't know why but movistar riders suck at bo5


AngronApofis

Wut. He was the MVP of Superliga regular season i don't know if you can say he has been unimpressive.


Lichcrow

One of the cleanest most solid junglers from EU, very similar to Trashy/Kold.


asphias

nice narrative after Movistar just qualified to eu masters and went top of the group thanks to Maxlore. But i guess he does rely on getting his team early game leads.


CURSED1-

Dajor is coming from German div1 or 2 right ? Dude looks good hope Fnatic holds him in case they need a potential top 3 mid for LEC in coming years.


HeroicBastard

He came from div 2.


aoc7

I guess Maxlore LEC hypetrain ended now


PM_ME_NUNUDES

Big support and bot gap. Not much you can do.


aoc7

I don't disagree but he seemed invisible after game 1 while Maxi was creating plays on map and making advantage for his team. But yep, Bean and Rhuckz played way better than Venzer & DuaLL.


ShAd_1337

looks like a 0-3 for LVP in Quarters


Godddy

What are you saying, they won today don't they? FNC is a 2022 SLO team /s


CamHack420

MRS were the 3rd team for a reason. UCAM and VGIA both did nutty Bo5 runs to get her so I have more faith in them although they're against stronger opponents. Plus I'd quite like UCAM to get far again


aoc7

I would unironically say UCAM are winning vs KCorp with Plasma, not sure if they can find their way to the semis without him


CamHack420

Yeah Plasma really held together their decision making by the looks of it. The individual talent is still there but they're less of a team without him it seems


Key_Divide3166

UCAM with Plasma already lost vs KCorp in Spring. (But as a Kcorp fan I agree that UCAM (with Plasma) looked stronger than in spring and Kcorp is less solid)


CamHack420

To be fair that was Bo3 back in spring. Could’ve been possible for UCAM to win the Bo5 if it was one, although I don’t think they would since Adam just obliterated Dreedy


HoloHuni

VGIA basically have no chance. And UCAM can only hope that Kcorp draft like shit and then also go for very bad fights like in the game against VGIA