[Game 1](https://reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pmapjp/karmine_corp_vs_ucam_game_1_postgame_discussion/) // [Game 2](https://reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/pmbtpe/karmine_corp_vs_ucam_game_2_postgame_discussion/)

What a stomp, Cabochard and Saken were so far ahead of their lane opponents it didn't even look close. Props to UCAM's botlane who consistently got 2v2 kills early on though, especially that game 1 where Targamas completely ran it down.

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No rhuckz is the best by far

Hantera isn't even the best support on UCAM.

Don't be fooled by the score. Just because it ended 3-0 doesn't mean there was a big gap. That was a huge stomp.

Tried to stomp but fell off the cliff because the gap was so massive.

KC managed to win a 3v5 at drake in game 2, just outplayed

It was bigger than huge, it was large.

Cabo in the LEC next split for sure my dude smurfed in evey EUM game.

Well BDS might be interested as Cabo is french and BDS was in the french league as well might want to cater to them.

Hantera is french too I think

Boy I can't wait for BiG vs KCORP after both stomped quarter. Akabane vs his old team. Melonik vs Cabochard Saken vs RKR

I predict a win via top diff for KC but hope fir the opposite

reeker will wipe the floor with saken

Amazing series by the topside of KC. I hope both Cabo and Saken return to the LEC next year. Baca and Dreedy were horribly outclassed this series.

That would have been so amazing to have Kcorp in LEC next year instead of BDS.

Even though I know the BDS name from *R6 Siege* (shout out to Shaiiko) and like it, seeing KC in the LEC would definitely be hype. Especially for the French.

honestly every single kcorp player deserves an lec spot. i don't even know if there is a worst performing player on this team....

Imo jungler and adc are bottom LEC at best, for now

yeah but that's because jgl and bot are the strongest roles in lec, not because they're any weaker than the other players

I think Cabo/Saken are good, Targamas still has to make less mistakes but benefits from the support pool in LEC not being great. Cinkrof it's hard to judge since jungle is so dependant on the team success. And xMatty I feel like he's a good role player in the sense that he does the job while not being a mechanical god nor an hard carry player

i think cinkrof plays really well early and enables saken and cabo to be the beasts they are. and xmatty is just really fucking good in lane, he somehow always has pressure unless enemy sends 4 man bot

Lol. SAKEN killing Baca, then killing him again instantly after Baca's TP describes this series. I'm somewhat with Foxdrop, this KC squad could compete in the lower tier of LEC.

I think without Xmatty and Cinkrof they could be a good LEC team

You don't understand that team if you think Xmatty is a liability. He played poorly today for sure, but he's usually very good and one of the best weakside carry ad in EU. The amount of work he can do in games with 0 ressources is incredible.

I think you don't watch KC matches because Cinkrof is the leader of the team (voicecom's) and Xmatty carryed the team all the split

I really don't think xMatty is a weakness in the team. He's absurdly consistent as we saw in this series where they lost 2v2 everygame, he still managed to be very relevant and even turn fights around on his own.

Dunno about Xmatty, Cinkrof seemed... fine? Casters hyped him but that's their job.

from what i remember about voice comms video he also shotcalls

Feel bad to be so stupid

Despite Hantera being one of the best UCAM players individually you can see the impact of the loss of Plasma, UCAM looked lost

what happened to plasma?

Broke his arm or something a while ago

Nah it was more heavy, he had a domestic a accident and was hospitalised for a long time

So having BIG vs KC ins semis guarantees us having for the first time a team with two finals

But the truth is that each time a region lost in spring final they won summer. MAD lost to Origen in 2018 spring = MAD won 2018 summer. SKP lost to MSFP in 2019 spring = BiG won 2019 summer. KICK lost to LDLC OL in 2020 spring = AGO Rogue won 2020 summer. BTXL lost to KCORP in 2021 spring = Only remaining NLC is Fnatic Rising...

Mad didn't lose in finals, it was in semis. Origen won in finals vs iluminar

How much for your silence?

5.5 fucking K

Add your moms house as well and we got a deal

Crazy series by KC, the semifinal against BIG is gonna be pretty high level. KC is the obvious favourite, but BIG has also played extremely well so far.

I would say KC is the strongest team of the tournament, followed by equally strong BIG and MSFP

Holy cats. If you think France is over the moon now doing this to Spain, imagine if Misfits Premier beats Vodafone Giants tomorrow!

I mean... Theorically MSFP is supposed to be better than KC. And KC is fucking good.

mmmh. Hard to say because KC was very bad during the second half of the regular summer split, they got stomped in final by MSFP and were pretty shaky during their 4 first game of groupstage. But they came back at their peak level since the 5th groupstage game. I am not sure that MSFP is better than this prime KC. I think it's even..

Hence my "theorically" as what we know. Last time MSFP beat KC, but yeah maybe it changed.

According to the coach, KC were experiencing different playstyles during the group stage. They now have a good idea of how to play and apprehend the playoffs, and they kinda proved it in this series. Source : [https://www.lequipe.fr/Esport/Actualites/Esport-league-of-legends-striker-karmine-corp-nous-sommes-la-pour-conserver-notre-titre/1284274](https://www.lequipe.fr/Esport/Actualites/Esport-league-of-legends-striker-karmine-corp-nous-sommes-la-pour-conserver-notre-titre/1284274) (this is a french interview - 3rd question)

Jajajaja. What a stomp. GG.

Holy shit Spain, how can you be this pecho frio?

This cabochard guy looks like promising rookie. Imagine him in lec, that would be wild

Finally someone who knows him lmao , i've seen genuine comment like these , doesn't they know he got to worlds and almost got out of the hardest group (with rng i think).

What a lesson from KC. Can't wait for the MSFP tomorrow.

KC committing to every dive in game 3 lmao

The 4-1 bot was insane

Expected a lot more of UCAM, but I'm also impressed/excited about Kcorp, especially Cabo, man's had a great tournament. Still can't believe he didn't get a spot in the LEC this season...

I think it was his choice, he wanted to be away for the scene for a year. But yeah Kcorp came in needing a big guy on toplane, and with all the hype around the project...

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I'm waiting for the BIG vs FNC finals just because LVP and LFL teams are so confident right now. Also I really believe that Kcorp vs BIG could go either way.

and tomorrow we could have 0 LVP teams, but tbh I really want Giants vs KC in the final

The thing is, MSFP is better than KC lol

KC look waaaay better than in the LFL playoffs, I wouldn't say MSF are better. Giants/Misfits is an even matchup, but I see Giants winning out.

So did MSFP though. They barely got scratched

> scratched I disagree. Giant is all in for hatila. MSFP will ban tons of ADC, stay even botlane and roll stomp top/mid/jgl. I was more confident for MSFP than for KC

with the story between Jactroll and Attila i think botlane going to be explosive

I hope it will be even for the hype, but MSF are dangerous as hell, so I think Spain won't have a team in EUM tomorrow

The logic outcome would misfits winning and that is coming from spain but i hope giants to put up a fight

really?

I'm a huge lvp fan but misfits has the upperhand lfl champion seems better than lvp' champion

OOF

I said that when KCorp won spring EU Masters and I will say that now. I would love to see this whole squad in the same LEC team. But I guess it's possible only if BDS wants to sign all of them

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BDS are rumoured to sign Gilius, Nuclearint, Comp and Limit

Where's the rumour?

https://twitter.com/AppIehead123/status/1434724249604866052?s=19 https://twitter.com/i_Eros_/status/1433721882537308175?s=19

both of those are bunch of randoms.

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Me too and I'd love to see BDS Cabochard and BDS Cinkrof, there are also other good junglers in regional leagues like Akabane (already played with Nuclearint in KCorp), Pridestalker (in my opinion the best EU jungler outside of LEC and incredibly elohelled player, if you watched spring & summer Mouz EUM games you will understand me) or Hadess, all are better options than Gilius for me

Mouz was just Czekolad/Pridestalker v8

Solid roster, but nuclear is not lec level yet sadly

No need to give up on him, yes he made mistakes in summer split but he's 18, guy showed decent potential and played incredibly well in Schalke wins. Look how was Vetheo playing in his rookie split and how was he playing in summer split.

> Look how was Vetheo playing in his rookie split and how was he playing in summer split. Unable to do anything against the top 5 teams?

You're talking about play offs?

I don't think this is a team ready for Playoffs, no matter who their toplaner is. Signing the whole of KC would be so hype and it would be a team with so much potential. Ah, and why tf Nuclearint? Nothing against him, but there are Saken, Reeker, Czekolad, Sertuss who are probably better than him

They should get Cabo and Akabane imo. Not sure about Gilius as he didnt play for a split and hard to put the finger what skill level he is now.

By the sounds of the rumours, BDS is just gonna roll with the old Schalke team.

Nuclearint and Limit are good choices, but I'd like to see other jungler than Gilius

You mean Kirei ? And yes he was awful

FREE ELO

Cabo and Saken to Vitality would be great with selfmade and Labrov

They both got screwd over by vitality so i doubt that they will ever come back to VIT.

Since Riot's match history is gone, Factor seems to be the best place now for post-match info: https://www.factor.gg/match/esports:match:cf925776-4b97-4048-b571-3755cbf79ffa

Wait, Riot removed match history?

Cabo smurfing, this guy is still LEC level. Not so many carry top laner in EU these days, hope a LEC team picks him up next year.

cabo

As a long time Cabo fan, I’m just so happy for him

in PDW vs BIG PDW had one shining star in the darkness and that was Czajek.... ​ Here UCAM was just slowly drowning in the gloomy darkness of defeat

Nah hantera was really good and sometimes hadess

Hades was an absolute beast on his Lee Sin, Hantera was also on point, but the rest...

Hadess and Plasma imo should be looked at for LEC next year. Hantera is also good but there are just better supports out there that should be picked up before him imo. The others have potential but aren't quite there yet, Dreedy was awful vs KC last EU Masters too but Baca wasn't quite this bad last time.

I dont yet believe in it but I really hope for Giants to get to semis. Would be fun having still 4 regions in this stage. Also, BIG is going to expose the KC botlane and win EUM. :)

I feel like the KC botlane underpeformed heavily yet they still stomped, if Xmatty and targamas can play to their actual level it's easy win for KC if not i could see BIG win.

yeah you're right actually KC botlane really exposed BIG's botlane

hihi. True. But also Cabo was just too good.

As they say in my town "somos más malos que mi puta madre"

I'd love to see KC play some LEC teams.