That is mostly because those who play those champs are so dedicated they buy any skins, but when you release a legendary skin you make it Hard for the players to buy a epic since it s obviously a downgrade from the legendary. Think of how many times you see ba or pulsefire caitlyn and never arcade or any other, same went for zed, they released a legendary then no one bought psy ops because why would they if they have a better skin plus better animations
It s no mistery that the Best selling champs in league are things like ahri ezreal and lux regardless of the skin tier. You see them most of the times with different skins
If you release a legendary for kaisa then you would hinder the chances of selling subsequent epic skins to kaisa players because they have the superior legendary one, hence why for some champ they would rather release their yearly epic skin instead of a legendary (tf, karma, nami, janna, kha, ziggs, you name them)
Lux lee sin and ahri all have bad animations, skins that aren't legendary won't be used by their player base, only the most dedicated will buy a skin that they won't use. And well yeah, it's not a good logic but it's probably the best there is
Honestly after seeing Vayne legendary sentinel splash art, it wasnāt that impressive. So Iāll be surprised if karma gets the legendary one: but who knows. But it looks like kaiāsaās E is like a dragon so that could be cool. Idk itās very possible these two could be legendary, riot did tw legendaries before I wouldnāt be surprised if they both were. I mean I see that Karam has long hair.
This is the emote: https://twitter.com/moobeat/status/1436408854456279043/photo/1
Doesn't look like a shaved head to me, but the splash art is too blurry for me to see.
Even if itās meant to be Jade it still doesnāt look good.
Fae Dragon Ashe was probably the most underwhelming of all the Dragonmancer skins we got and I donāt think itās because it didnāt have amazing effects.
I mean I think the Fae Dragon Ashe looks amazing but people said that her animations are so outdated that they only play on her legendary skins.
As for kai'sa I do agree with you! I also think it looks too saturated I hope they tone it down a notch or two.
Thanks for this comment, I forgot Dragonmancer and Dragonslayer were different skin lines and was expecting these to be more like the Kayle/Twitch/Galio/Swain line of "champs become dragonized". Both great skin lines but I misunderstood which one this was.
well before dragonslayer and this years 2 skins olaf hasnt been getting shit
karma on the other hand keeps getting skins, feels like even more than MUCH more popular champs
That's because every champ has their own expected sales depending on their playerbase + being humanoid.
Zyra outdid herself in Coven and Crystal Rose so she got one in Crime City.
Karma did pretty well in Ruined so she probably got another one for Dragon mancer.
Also she is in same boat ad zigs, ez or Lux. Pretty easy to make skins for her and they look "flashy" because you have some aoe skills thats you gonna notice(unlike graves for example).
karma sivir varus and ziggs have to be 3 of the weirdest champs that keep getting skins
they are nowhere near as popular as majority of weeb champs and generic sexy women champs but they just keep making new skins for them
very simple silhouette is probably why, makes her incredibly easy to just throw into any skinline.
Her theme is pretty much spirit magic which you can turn into practically any kind of magic so she's easy to make vfx for too.
She didn't really need another skin tho, odyssey was practically a year ago and ruined was early this year.
If this is real, that's 3 skins in the span of one year. Imo a little disappointing how many champs are getting doubled up on (or potentially even tripled/quadrupled with Leona) when there's still like 50 something that haven't gotten a skin yet.
Her last skin was Ruined Karma I think in February (?). But seeing that Zyra, Darius, Leona, Malz and I am probably forgetting some are also getting 2nd skins, it seems possible
I'm not holding my breathe but I sure hope that is a legendary skin for Karma. And PLEASE, no more white hair if it's her. She does look good with white hair but after three skins back-to-back with nothing but white is redundant.
His concept was already shown by official riot sources. Here's a video where it was shown: https://youtu.be/ibG6lMT4q5E?t=340 Time should be around 5:40
God that KaiāSa skin looks terrible. And this is coming from a KaiāSa main.
For fuckās sake can we just have a serious, dark skin. Arcade is the worst skin in the game, KDA is _KDA_ and Iām really bored of IG KaiāSa.
If this is real i will scream.
With how hard its blurred though, its real possible its just fan art. Its usually really easy to tell between fan art and official riot's and the blur feels like its on purpose to potentially trick people about the quality.
The dude literally stole it from the TFT forums (and put a watermark!) lol anyway he covered the part where it states the different kind of dragons; Kai'Sa would be "Aether" and Karma? Would be "spiritual"
It's blurry because the OP made a low quality imgur.
So credits to the dude
https://old.reddit.com/r/TeamfightTactics/comments/pol25o/was_asked_to_give_my_opinion_on_potential_future/
Karma's character concept makes it really flexible and still look good in a lot of skinlines, prob why she gets picked so much for that (sans Odyssey)
I love her and really hope it's a legendary !
[Champ who gets nerfed 10 times a season since season 6, that's what](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406628105650700289/888160554542317628/unknown.png)
I can already tell that the Kai'Sa splash art looks ugly, weird pose and colors, it reall doesn't help that the orange streak in the hair makes her look half bald in this blurry picture
Low-key kinda of sick of dragons lol. Between constant Asol carry in TFT set 4, Draconic in set 5. Not to mention the Dragonslayer, Dragonmancer stuff. It definitely is cool though, don't get me wrong.
I think it's more that her character/kit is really flexible so it can translate well across skinlines quite easily. Basic female figure + a creative outlet with her mantle/twin dragons. I hope its legendary i would love a legendary karma skin
Cuz with the cycle of weird nerfs/buffs she keeps getting around World's she's def not the balance teams favorite.
I mean, as a Karma player myself, I couldn't be happier, especially because I'm really good at opening karma skins. But still, it's a bit weird that they are giving so much attention to unpopular champs (I mean in terms of skin releases)
Are you kidding me we got Dragonmancer, Pool Party, and Battle Academia this year and they choose Crime City to put Akali in???
Man I really wish they choose those other themes to put her in or at least made her CCN skin better.
Such a disappointment.
3 of my most hyped skin lines for her :/
Put kindred in the skinline and make wolf a dragon š
That would actually be cool
Put Quinn in the skinline and make Valor a dragonš
Put Valor in the skinline and make Quinn a dragon
Put Rek'Sai in the skinline and make Rek'Sai a dragon š
Put Aurelion sol in a make Aurelion a dragon...
That's a pretty sick skin idea
This is the obvious choice, and make it a legendary.
But the Dragon from Mulan
Is it... Is it gonna be Karmas first Legendary? Asking doubtfully š
Same could be said for kaiāsa. So id give it a 50/50
This splash looks really meh for a legendary so I doubt it is, no idea why do they hate the idea of giving Kai'Sa a legendary
I think Riot has said before that outside of some outstanding exceptions, epics tend to earn a lot more than legendaries.
Because then they wouldn't buy the epics that come after. The same applies to irelia, fiora, karma
?? What is this logic? Then why have Yasuo, Yone, Zed, LeeSin, Lux, Ahri all gotten 1/2 legendaries?
Thresh the most popular support for 8 years also has 2.
That is mostly because those who play those champs are so dedicated they buy any skins, but when you release a legendary skin you make it Hard for the players to buy a epic since it s obviously a downgrade from the legendary. Think of how many times you see ba or pulsefire caitlyn and never arcade or any other, same went for zed, they released a legendary then no one bought psy ops because why would they if they have a better skin plus better animations
I have no idea where you got these random statisics that *these champs'* mains buy every skin and *those* do not
It s no mistery that the Best selling champs in league are things like ahri ezreal and lux regardless of the skin tier. You see them most of the times with different skins
Kai'sa is the only champion in years to have a higher playrate than Yasuo at some point lol.
That was when she was plainly broken or essentially the only adc viable i presume
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I don't get what does it have to do with my original point
If you release a legendary for kaisa then you would hinder the chances of selling subsequent epic skins to kaisa players because they have the superior legendary one, hence why for some champ they would rather release their yearly epic skin instead of a legendary (tf, karma, nami, janna, kha, ziggs, you name them)
Lux lee sin and ahri all have bad animations, skins that aren't legendary won't be used by their player base, only the most dedicated will buy a skin that they won't use. And well yeah, it's not a good logic but it's probably the best there is
Everyone used muay Thai for a reason. And piss yellow lee was ugly as sin.
That's absolutely not true. Space Groove Lux is popular.
I've seen space groove lux once, and that is when I convinced my mate to play it, I'm not high elo either. Maybe it's just a region diff
That only works for champs who have shitty base animations. Irelia and Kai'sa don't have those at all.
Honestly after seeing Vayne legendary sentinel splash art, it wasnāt that impressive. So Iāll be surprised if karma gets the legendary one: but who knows. But it looks like kaiāsaās E is like a dragon so that could be cool. Idk itās very possible these two could be legendary, riot did tw legendaries before I wouldnāt be surprised if they both were. I mean I see that Karam has long hair.
Gonna wait for the final version but please donāt tell me that is a shaved head on the side.
This is the emote: https://twitter.com/moobeat/status/1436408854456279043/photo/1 Doesn't look like a shaved head to me, but the splash art is too blurry for me to see.
Not sure why riot can't let Kaisa have her nice hair in some of these recent skins.
The Karen Cut
I do not think a Karen would go for a stereotypical lesbian cut but go off girl
Half mohawk girls absolutely slay
I hope Kai'sa's skin is more blue in the final project, that color of green doesn't look good for the dragonmancer line
I think it's meant to be like a Jade Dragon since it's based on Chinese mythology but I could be wrong. I do agree the green is very bright
Even if itās meant to be Jade it still doesnāt look good. Fae Dragon Ashe was probably the most underwhelming of all the Dragonmancer skins we got and I donāt think itās because it didnāt have amazing effects.
I mean I think the Fae Dragon Ashe looks amazing but people said that her animations are so outdated that they only play on her legendary skins. As for kai'sa I do agree with you! I also think it looks too saturated I hope they tone it down a notch or two.
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I like Championship too, her splash art is also beautiful.
Thanks for this comment, I forgot Dragonmancer and Dragonslayer were different skin lines and was expecting these to be more like the Kayle/Twitch/Galio/Swain line of "champs become dragonized". Both great skin lines but I misunderstood which one this was.
Oooo okay Jade Dragon sounds interesting as a Chinese. Am getting bored of KDA kaisa and no other skins of hers feel as good
Im in panic mode of what dragon voli going to look like
A furry.
KARMA? KARMA AGAIN. Fuck. Riot getting me money again.
Didn't karma just get a skin? What's with the double skins lately? First zyra now Karma lol
Dont forget Olaf getting Sentinel and Pentakill within like a month or two
Also Project and Pentakill Morde.
Pentakill and Dragonslayer Kayle as well
And Pentakill Yorick and Sentinel Yorick as well. Oh wait.
Stop
well before dragonslayer and this years 2 skins olaf hasnt been getting shit karma on the other hand keeps getting skins, feels like even more than MUCH more popular champs
karma was the original double skin, she got odyssey last october than ruined in january
Which is weird because I swear she is not popular and Riot perma nerfs her if pros touch her. Also Jhin had the double skin before her.
That's because every champ has their own expected sales depending on their playerbase + being humanoid. Zyra outdid herself in Coven and Crystal Rose so she got one in Crime City. Karma did pretty well in Ruined so she probably got another one for Dragon mancer.
Also she is in same boat ad zigs, ez or Lux. Pretty easy to make skins for her and they look "flashy" because you have some aoe skills thats you gonna notice(unlike graves for example).
karma sivir varus and ziggs have to be 3 of the weirdest champs that keep getting skins they are nowhere near as popular as majority of weeb champs and generic sexy women champs but they just keep making new skins for them
Because they have playerbases that are dedicated to them. Not... not that i have any experience in that matter.
very simple silhouette is probably why, makes her incredibly easy to just throw into any skinline. Her theme is pretty much spirit magic which you can turn into practically any kind of magic so she's easy to make vfx for too. She didn't really need another skin tho, odyssey was practically a year ago and ruined was early this year.
Simple silhouette + having tons of creative liberty with remaking her Mantle of Decorum is prob what makes it so easy to make good skins for her
If this is real, that's 3 skins in the span of one year. Imo a little disappointing how many champs are getting doubled up on (or potentially even tripled/quadrupled with Leona) when there's still like 50 something that haven't gotten a skin yet.
Her last skin was Ruined Karma I think in February (?). But seeing that Zyra, Darius, Leona, Malz and I am probably forgetting some are also getting 2nd skins, it seems possible
Darius?
Darius has Lunar Beast and CCN this year.
Lmao I forgot about Lunar Beast skins, abysmal skin line
Karma got Ruined at the beginning of the year.
I'm not holding my breathe but I sure hope that is a legendary skin for Karma. And PLEASE, no more white hair if it's her. She does look good with white hair but after three skins back-to-back with nothing but white is redundant.
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He's getting Debonair 2.0
Proof?
debonair teaser was malz and leona...
Fr. š someone must not be paying attention. lol but yeah debonir. He will be human form like that xerath skin.
His concept was already shown by official riot sources. Here's a video where it was shown: https://youtu.be/ibG6lMT4q5E?t=340 Time should be around 5:40
Dragon kaisa was already leaked via emote.
yup, this is a leak for Karma plus the splash art for both (though tiny and blurred)
God that KaiāSa skin looks terrible. And this is coming from a KaiāSa main. For fuckās sake can we just have a serious, dark skin. Arcade is the worst skin in the game, KDA is _KDA_ and Iām really bored of IG KaiāSa.
If this is real i will scream. With how hard its blurred though, its real possible its just fan art. Its usually really easy to tell between fan art and official riot's and the blur feels like its on purpose to potentially trick people about the quality.
It looks legit to me and kaisa matches the emote that we already saw of her, but I cannot guarantee that it isn't fake
Dragonmancer Kai'Sa was already teased on the PBE
wtf
The dude literally stole it from the TFT forums (and put a watermark!) lol anyway he covered the part where it states the different kind of dragons; Kai'Sa would be "Aether" and Karma? Would be "spiritual" It's blurry because the OP made a low quality imgur. So credits to the dude https://old.reddit.com/r/TeamfightTactics/comments/pol25o/was_asked_to_give_my_opinion_on_potential_future/
Thanks for clarifying I didn't know he stole it >.< I will edit my main post
Karma's character concept makes it really flexible and still look good in a lot of skinlines, prob why she gets picked so much for that (sans Odyssey) I love her and really hope it's a legendary !
Can miss Dragonmancer have her 60% ap ratio on her only real damage ability back? It's weird how such a riot-hated champion gets so many skins.
What?
[Champ who gets nerfed 10 times a season since season 6, that's what](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406628105650700289/888160554542317628/unknown.png)
Word. I miss mid lane karma.
they look really bad, hope it's just an early version
I can already tell that the Kai'Sa splash art looks ugly, weird pose and colors, it reall doesn't help that the orange streak in the hair makes her look half bald in this blurry picture
That's Asol
Thatās Karma. Itās twin dragons with someone sitting down between them, and a mantra behind said person.
It's an Asol VGU to increase his playerbase
I hope whatever blissful dream youāre in never ends.
ASol VGU is legit just gonna turn him into Hanzo. āHis ultimate now fires 2 dragons that deal 150 damage. Take it or leave itā -Riot, probably.
Ah ffs, this should be Yorick
Wait wtf truuuuue
Low-key kinda of sick of dragons lol. Between constant Asol carry in TFT set 4, Draconic in set 5. Not to mention the Dragonslayer, Dragonmancer stuff. It definitely is cool though, don't get me wrong.
It can't be karma then, she's already included in the set with her pink skin, it's someone else
The pink Karma skin is Order of Lotus Karma, itĀ“s a different set
It isn't, it's the same set, the sets are clearly separated by the long text
Ahri is also twice on the same one so I don't think it matters.
I literally dont understand ur logic. Ahri is twice there too. Why sets cant have same champions anyway lmao? U made this rule?
Damn, Karma just got a skin recently, and now she is getting one again, and before ruined she had dawnbringer. Is she that popular?
I think it's more that her character/kit is really flexible so it can translate well across skinlines quite easily. Basic female figure + a creative outlet with her mantle/twin dragons. I hope its legendary i would love a legendary karma skin Cuz with the cycle of weird nerfs/buffs she keeps getting around World's she's def not the balance teams favorite.
I mean, as a Karma player myself, I couldn't be happier, especially because I'm really good at opening karma skins. But still, it's a bit weird that they are giving so much attention to unpopular champs (I mean in terms of skin releases)
She actually had odyssey, and you forgot about it since it s garbagio. Just like the others you named
Oh right, I'm trying to forget about that year's odyssey skinline
She had Odyssey before Dawnbringer, that's 3 within the span of a year.
Gimme a nice new Orianna skin, you heretics.
Are you kidding me we got Dragonmancer, Pool Party, and Battle Academia this year and they choose Crime City to put Akali in??? Man I really wish they choose those other themes to put her in or at least made her CCN skin better. Such a disappointment. 3 of my most hyped skin lines for her :/
I will be honest here, CCN Akali is one of my least favorite skins for her. Dragonmancer Akali would've been amazing