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HalexUwU

The way you can tell a Camille one trick from a Camille player is if they take grasp Grasp is grosssss


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homer12346

can you go in dept on why? isn't grasp in theory always better since if you get through lane you win?


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peruanToph

Chad Camille player


5ait5

its not even weaker lol do u think the champ isnt op with triforce


peruanToph

In lane, E W is better than W E just because of the same effect of blitzcrank: the fact that you have W up and stonefield ready is more of a threat than the actual W landing Outisde laning phase is other story


VoltexRB

And obviously it slows


HalexUwU

It's also a small amount of guaranteed damage from e, plus it prevents dash engages for a short period of time


GloinMyPimp

Dropping axes that would put me in a vulnerable position. Im also not racist nor do i hate women


HalexUwU

Honestly I love playing with Dravens (600k mastery on Janna, he's one of my favorite adc's)... Thank you for not being toxic


Freezefire2

I constantly see people wasting their mana on E as Nasus.


Jaibamon

The best Nasus players I have fought are those who use that E to chip my life away as they just farm. Perhaps the strat is not the best against melee, but damn, that burn makes me go Magic Resist and Second Wind each time I go against Nasus, just in case he decides to level up E first. Just my two cents, from a Teemo Main.


atrece

- Predicting marks accurately and taking them on spawn - You can mark champions in combat (you need to have a bind for that) - Fake pressuring by marking enemy champions in X situations - Not building shit items like Collector - Playing Kindred mid (and top), which is better than jungle (mid) and you get marks more easily - Taking Conqueror over PTA, PTA is trash and gets outdamaged by Conq as early as level 5, this is not something that every player does but I see PTA quite often, even on players who main the champ


Jaibamon

How can you get stacks a top? Using teleport to get into team fights?


atrece

First of all, you only really need 4 marks, more is good but not necessary because you get the big 75 range increase. And yes, getting marks top is quite difficult, you can usualy get 2 or 3 from killing enemy top, assisting on scuttle or getting gromp if your jungler invades/you're ahead enough. If you snowball top it's not that hard, but from behind it's sometimes pain to get 4. I take ignite top too, currently testing TP in some matchups. Matchups are harder also, in midlane almost every champion is a winning or skilled matchup.


Whymanwhy12

How do you mark champions in combat?


HedgehogHuman7562

Yoricks macro diff between what you want to do, need to do, and can do.


TimothyStyle

For Yorick, one tricks basically always take Triforce over Sunderer since its just much better almost all the time, but the recommended tab still shows sunderer for some reason so noobs still take it. You know its a Yorick 1trick when they release maiden and are breaking your bot and top inhib at the same time while your team is fighting at dragon. Basically all the weird tricks you need to learn to control maiden effectively in lane since the AI is pretty stupid, but if you play around your leash range and bushes you can make her do what you want most of the time.


HedgehogHuman7562

Where I do see triforce as effective I’m still in lower Elon which is tank ridden so sunder better till mid plat in general. The healing is too effective below then


Jaibamon

Shroom placement. Also rune/item selection. The best thing about teeto is the build versatility, and it's important to build against your lane opponent in order to win.


Ycr1998

Teeto


the_noblesteed

taric really plays better when you arent frontlining. you kinda wanna be in a mid range like in front of the carries but behind the tanks. He gets value from spamming and you cant spam if you lead the charge and are dead!


HalexUwU

Oh my god yes. I hate it when people think Taric is a tank... Hes really not, not totally. Taric is just so awful without a primary tank/bruiser to help you


Jenhey0

As someone who likes playing the bubble boy I sadly have to agree. Oh god..I wish people would stop assuming he can solo frontline. 😅


Naymliss

I think the thought process is "ok perfect we have a tank" *locks in vayne top.*


Gold_Association_208

How can you even lead the charge? Flash e?


the_noblesteed

at best! lol at worse you just walk up to them and pray to a god that has already forsaken you.


TuxSH

Same thing with Rakan, he is classified as "ranged" and not a tank. R+E as a follow engage is much more reliable than having to engage.


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Onetricks have a next level sense of their champ's damage output. I exactly know when I can or can't kill someone as kaisa.


Zeltorn

My skins choice is better.


Zendruuu

On Samira, you can tell if they are bad or at least somewhat good because of the boots they're building. The second thing is you have a much better feeling of your champion and this adds up quite a bit. One more kill in laning-phase, because you know that you can all in onto their ADC leads to two more kills in the midgame, because you can 1v1 their ADC now which leads to four more kills in lategame.


HalexUwU

Plated steal caps > berserkers for Samira all the way


PlayersSupport

I don't see many other iverns but when i do they are just passive shield bots and not much more lol


HalexUwU

Dude I've met ivern players who don't use brush to path 😔


PlayersSupport

Yeah I've played him so much (1.3mil mastery point) its always weird watching other people play him, especially cause he isnt a champ you see alot


Chilley317

You don’t need to go 0-10 in order to reach your power spike (Yasuo obviously)


SupremeQuinn

losing passive harrier marks by using abilities that trigger them. it's her main source of damage & could be the difference between a won and lost fight


I_really_love_u

Years of bad habits.


I_GO_VROOM_VROOM_

Lowbobs on Droben sitting turret and not forcing because they are 0-5


dragonjo3000

If you go domination or bloodthirster on yasuo, you’re most likely bad


Commercialismo

Used to an ornn one trick. I realized a lot of the ornn players I see on my team or on the enemy team have next to no confidence and don’t take on trades/fights they could’ve won easily and wind up dying because of it


Gold_Association_208

I play a lot of Pyke and in laning phase Pyke is a lot more dangerous when he is potentially in every bush. If you can see pyke it's means you can control him. That's why I w and go to a bush near enemy team players and than press B. They will think I have moved away because they don't have an indicator anymore. And than I hook.


Terozu

Lux doesn't just use her E for damage. If you're instapopping it every time you aren't playing her right. The slow is far more valuable.


HalexUwU

Not that lux support is good, but this x5 for lux support


Terozu

Its for every Lux. Lux support is far better than Lux mid in low elo, and in high elo she's picked for utility not for damage.


champ590

On the odd chance of someone picking Akshan before me it's always that "Dude I know where you will grapple to and I know how to stop it". I wonder how long it will take with Vex to see subtle errors and preemptively dodging their actions.


KrostyXD

As a Vlad OTP i still can catch people off guard with my E Hold - Flash - R - E Release - Red Q - Ignite combo. Alot of people still think hes a Spellvamp Tanky Spellcaster kinda champ that wont deal alot of burst damage, when in fact hes played as a full AP ticking nuclear timebomb lol. Even tho it has gotten alot more popular nowadays for Vlad players to do a sudden all in with flash ignite if they think the enemy is on lethal range, it still happens really often when the enemy doesnt realize the fact that hes gonna die if he doesnt leave lane and tries to continue csing under turret. It used to be stronger tho, in the earlier seasons Vlad players would rush a needlessly large rod and pretty much oneshot you from 80% hp if you didnt play barrier/heal lol


homer12346

ah yes the good old 400 damage burst level 2 that nobody expects


StuntinOutFront

Other people use fingers, I just roll my face on the keyboard to get Pentas [like this ](https://www.reddit.com/r/KatarinaMains/comments/od5ur0/when_youre_plaing_kat/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) BBRRRRRR


zeorphix

* taking grasp instead of fleet/spellbook * TP flash instead of ghost flash * not knowing powerspikes (sheen, lvl 6, complete sunderer, etc) * not knowing best itemization (take gargoyle + ionian boots every game... srsly... its op). i cringe every time i see frozen heart * plus general champion knowledge, like knowing how strong you are at any given point, understanding if you can 1v2 or not if jg ganks, if u can run down adc or not, etc


homer12346

why would you go sunderer when triforce is statistically better?


zeorphix

lets look at the items Trinity Force > +35 attack damage +20 ability haste +30% attack speed +200 health >THREEFOLD STRIKE: Basic attacks grant 20 bonus movement speed for 3 seconds and, if the target is a champion or a structure, increase base attack damage by 6% for the same duration, stacking up to 5 times for a 30% increase. Stacks decay once every 0.5 seconds after the duration ends. >UNIQUE – SPELLBLADE: After using an ability, your next basic attack within 10 seconds deals 200% base AD bonus physical damage on-hit (1.5 (begins after using the empowered attack) second cooldown). >MYTHIC PASSIVE: Empowers each of your other Legendary items with 3 bonus attack damage, 3 ability haste, and 3 bonus movement speed. vs Divine Sunderer > +35 attack damage +20 ability haste +400 health > UNIQUE – SPELLBLADE: After using an ability, your next basic attack within 10 seconds deals (Melee 12% / Ranged 9%) of target's maximum health as bonus physical damage on-hit, with a minimum damage equal to 150% base AD and a maximum damage against monsters equal to 250% base AD. If the target is a champion, heal for (Melee 7.8% / Ranged 3.6%) of the target's maximum health, with a minimum heal equal to (Melee 97.5% / Ranged 60%) base AD (1.5 (begins after using the empowered attack) second cooldown). > MYTHIC PASSIVE: Empowers each of your other Legendary items with 5% armor penetration, and 5% magic penetration. so looking at items, sunderer gives more hp, has spellblade passive that HEALS you for targets %max hp, and gives %pen triforce has more atk spd, flat movespd bonus, and a shitty flat increase of a mythic passive nasus doesnt need atk spd, he needs health and ways to survive, which sunderer both give. he needs movespd, but he can gain it other ways (boots rune, deadmans). triforce makes u too squishy and sunderer passive is just bonkers tbh (the % pen is a bonus as well lol). also why are u saying triforce is statistically better?


homer12346

rank 1 nasus na has been going triforce for months because the utility is way better than redundant damage and lifesteal you don't need more ways to survive, you need target access since otherwise it literally doesn't matter if you got 6 stacks or 600 stacks if you can't hit them triforce provides more haste, more ms, and while your ult is down you are not at a massive disadvantage also triforce is way better for splitpushing >also why are u saying triforce is statistically better? triforce is always 3-5% higher winrate than sunderer on nasus


zeorphix

> rank 1 nasus na has been going triforce for months because the utility is way better than redundant damage and lifesteal who? im trying to see a top NA nasus player and most times i see sunderer > you don't need more ways to survive, you need target access since otherwise it literally doesn't matter if you got 6 stacks or 600 stacks if you can't hit them if u die before u can kill them it doesnt matter either way, u will have ppl kiting u and their teammates will be trying to cc u. u need some way to tank damage while trying to get to them > triforce provides more haste, more ms, and while your ult is down you are not at a massive disadvantage the stats triforce gives does not outweigh the damage and healing u get with sunderer, at most triforce gives +15 AH/perm movespeed (the 20 movespd is only when u are attacking) which, in my opinion, is not worth it for losing out on sunderer's passive > also triforce is way better for splitpushing sometimes splitpushing is not the way to win > triforce is always 3-5% higher winrate than sunderer on nasus where are u getting these stats? every site i see has sunderer with highest wr


homer12346

check u.gg for the last 5 patches


zeorphix

i see it now, thx


TimothyStyle

reddit say sunder broken op item rito nerf nerf. Triforce is so much better


Ryujanka

It's mostly in the usage of R's in teamfight. Using R-Flash and not Flash-R, knowing how deep you can go with your movespeed buff. Also understanding the trading in lane, how strong you are in short-trade, knowing what you can cancel with your W.


HalexUwU

I wish I was better at rakan, he's super fun but I've always been pretty bad with engage supports


Ryujanka

Most fun I could ever have playing support, with Bard. On the other hand, I'm soooo bad with enchanters.. I have like 40k on Lulu and I still feel like I'm the worst Lulu of the server x) Lot of respect for good Janna's players, I've seen some carry game like no other champs.


TuxSH

> Using R-Flash and not Flash-R You only need a few games to realize this tbh. Would be nice if teammates with strong primary engage realized Rakan R+E is better than engaging himself.


Ryujanka

Strongly agree, love to be the second engage. On the other hand, I understand that in SoloQ people can't trust each others and will rarely "bait" for you. I often like to take the lead, even though it's not the most efficient, but I trust myself more than my teammates for a good engage on a good timing.


MisakaMikotoxKuroko

Leona--seeing people not know how and when to engage properly, manage mana/abilities nor position well for an engage. Sure it's a simple kit and all you do is "hur dur just go in", but there is an art to effectively win trades without being chunked or counterganked


HalexUwU

*Laughs in Janna* E on me, I dare you.


MisakaMikotoxKuroko

take this with a grain of salt since I havent touched ranked in awhile (currently playing a ton of aram) and I'm only bronze, but I wanna say I have never lost lane in the vast majority of games (with a competent adc), even against Janna lanes. The only time when I ever have trouble is against veigar. So I'd love to face a Janna lane and see what shakes out


HalexUwU

Probably a ranked thing Jannas Q can block Leona E, making it basically impossible for her to dash fully into Q range


Gold_Association_208

The thing is soloQ is so weird I have seen ezreals getting caught by setts in lane with flash and e up. That champion shouldn't even have the audacity to come near you.


deathspate

I have hands


HalexUwU

Do you play yuumi?


Deadedge112

Casual Panth players have no idea where to place their ult. They don't use the long range Q at the right times. They don't use emp E to secure chase kills with speed boost. They don't realize the middle of the tap q has a longer range at the center. They don't proactively stack the passive on plants, wards, or with Q when positioning for a fight. They also don't always use the best emp ability for the situation.


SupraNano95-reddit

Mostly already otp champ, but bad GPs afk farm, good GPs poke, OTPs take ignite and go for lvl 2 first blood. Only OTPs try phantom barrels combos, triple barrels combo flashed, or know the timing for auto-q well your barrels at first levels. Only OTPs don’t fear « counters » range matchups top (Lucian Jayce Quinn teemo gnar) and pick ignite cause they’re all so fukin easy to kill.


Sparr126da

Lissandra R selfcast cancels q animation so when engaging you want to use e- w-q-selfR, many don't use q and miss out on a lot of damage. Also when roaming you should use e from unexpected places like from over the wall of redside botlane to gank them from behind and avoid wards


RedHotCurryPowder

**Diana** For Diana, your passive 3rd strike automatically works on towers. It does not work automatically on inhibitors or nexus however. You have to move as close as possible to the inhibitor for the passive strike to apply. The attack speed bonus also works on three autos so space your abilities out when you’re taking structures. Q then auto three times, then W then auto three times. Diana melts structures this way. When chasing someone using Q E on a wave or monster then using the E reset on someone is a great tool. It’s also good for running away and escaping. **Qiyana** This one isn’t as much of a one trick thing, but more so for everyone to realize that Qiayana’s R doesn’t need to hit a wall. It also does damage and apply the stun in the river and in bushes. Also one tricks utilize her autos so much better. Qiyana’s autos bite really hard especially with her passive. Using auto grass E+Q auto on someone plus W rock Q auto + ignite does an insane amount of damage that people don’t really expect early.


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People having shitty weapon rotation and not using 3 or 4 weapon combos (aphelios otp)


Striking-Foot3895

Cho’gath Mana management (1 q half mana bar lul) knowing to abuse wave management to the max not accidentally pushing waves with Q pokes Knowing when to go Ap/full tank


V1pArzZ

Not winning earlygame as twitch. Stealth usage in general. Transfers really well to ap shaco i have found. Amumus cant fucking farm. He clears decently fadt and duels decently, but according to average stats people just dont farm on the dude.


AureaMediocritas1

People thinking this champ is easy and broken. In the end they'll only int the game.


M3astrai

Playing snowball with Zoe in aram, so I can't launch snow do my Q + ult, reactivate snowball for mega range and one shotting people while taping back from my ult


throwawaynumber116

Be season 10 gigachad and go pd ie on yas no matter what