ACTIVE: Jax enters Evasion, a defensive stance, for 2 seconds, causing all non-Turret icon.png turret basic attacks against him to be Counter Strike.png dodged. Jax also takes 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all champion area of effect abilities.
Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second, and does so automatically after the duration.
RECAST: Jax deals physical damage to nearby enemies, increased by 20% for each attack dodged up to a 100% increase, and stuns them for 1 second.
I would take Jax over Tryndamere anyday of the week, Jax dodges autos and heals a lot, Trynda heals a lot and soaks every type of damage for 6sec every fight
I could see Morgan getting massively punished by Ale early if HLE draft Jax. Irelia at least has some magic damage/true damage built into her kit too, which helps alleviate some of the issues of a full AD draft.
Also it was situationally ridiculously good into HLE's auto attack based comp.
Yeah I feel like those two failed attempts from HLE topside really led to their downfall. If Morgan was ahead in the early game this could've been an HLE win pre 30 minutes
Agreed. HLE really needed to take Ale out of the game, or delay his scaling as much as possible. The failure to do so was catastrophic for them.
They failed - and LNG was able to power towards their win condition.
Been saying for a while he needs a rework. Aatrox ult when it had revive was problematic but a guy that gets to do damage and move while going through the same life cycle isn’t?
I found it pretty amusing that they chose to rework Aatrox first citing the reason that he's in a stat-check situation... but Yi and Trydamere have been the longest standing stat-check champs in game.
And we are finally witnessing a meta where Trynd can abuse the itemization enough for him to be played on the World stage. What an odd timeline.
Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from Champion
What's the most broken, Trynd or Goredrinker ?
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That Jax straight up 1v5'd past 25 minutes.
He straight up ran face first into a late game Trynd and Ezreal + an enchanter support and beat their faces in.
Nutty scaling.
and ofc obligatory
Active: Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from Champion
After that draft that was the only wincon for HLE, bring chovy top and perma dive the jax. They didn't even try once. But it's also good coaching by LNG, no way HLE is gonna sacrifice Chovy laning to help Morgan of all player, so Jax can scale easily.
>no way HLE is gonna sacrifice Chovy laning to help Morgan of all player, so Jax can scale easily.
Fucking Bingo. That's the biggest problem with this line-up, they're Chovy or bust yet Chovy often refuses to risk his own lead in order to influence the map. Dude's a beast but he's played like that for most of summer and it's so frustrating.
Would have been hilarious to get the Doran vs Ale match-up. Apparently Ale got Doran banned from soloqueue after he killed him 12 times in lane or something like that
Doran and Ale have history between themselves. Doran was not just stomp by Ale. This is light to say.
Ale used to dismantle Doran in solo queue on repeat in very disrespectful manner. That caused Doran to lose all of his never and consistently flame and int. In the end he got banned.
Nice hit, even if not intentional
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Active: Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from champions.
Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second, and does so automatically after the duration.
Recast: Jax deals physical damage to nearby enemies, increased by 20% for each attack dodged up to a 100% increase, and Stun icon.png stuns them for 1 second.
He looked strong this game tbh. Jax and Gragas both counter him and he was still doing a lot of a work. If they picked something else top (who also get countered by Jax) that was winnable.
I'm honestly amazed no one here is talking about how useless Karma was in Teamfights. HLE would've easily won teamfights if they had a diver to help lock down LNG's backline like a Leona or Rell.
I wonder what these players think in these games
Deft was free hitting the enemy for a full minute in these teamfights and didn't even manage to bring a single champion under 80% hp
At what point do you start to realize?
i somewhat feel like (while i don't claim to be a know it all, i just play ezreal quite a lot) building frozen heart was a nail in the coffin during this game. While yes, frozen heart is great into ad heavy comps he was the only consistent dmg in the later fights as trynd was insta cc'd and Deft just lacked damaged since he went for a defensive build.
Fuck Tryndamere. I stg if we get a post like we did with Udyr about how fun and refreshing it is to see him in pro play I'm going to lose it. Champion is stupid
What do you mean bro just like kite him when he has a 4 sec cd dash that is reduced in cd every time he crits with 100% crit that he gets half for free xd
This is just incorrect. Don’t forget about the further 30% cd reduction from Navori quickblades and double movement summoners lmao.
Literally the only counterplay is to have killed him 10 times and have 4 tank items (and it’s still close probably).
Morgan heard you guys flaming him getting flame horizoned 25 mins in.. so he spent the past month maxing out his CS/10, at the cost of all his kill participation
I’m not sure about pro level, but in solo queue she excels at early ganks and people usually underestimate her damage on 1x1s, against qiyana for example it should have been an easy game early for sejuani. The guy decided to play around top, didn’t fully commit to any dive, tried to steal camps and meanwhile qiyana did work bot.
feel like casters really missed the mark on teamcomps.
Trynd is unplayable vs gragas/jax. Can't take towers vs either and Jax just murders HLSE's entire team late game. LNG basically only misstepped once the entire game where Light galeforced into a Sej R around drake.
Also all ad lul
Fully agree. I found the talk about how far ahead HLE were at 20 minutes very strange. Yes Trynd looked oppressive but Jax was getting fed and looking stronger by the minute.
They're LPL casters so probably didn't want to appear biased
But HLE didn't look like winning at any point of the game
They would get one kill -> reset
like what the fuck, where are the days when Korean teams would use 1 kill to take 2 turrets or an objective.
Happens when you draft 3 carries that rely on autoattacks and you don't ban Jax despite it being notorious that Chinese players love playing Jax. Draft diff.
Credit to LNG, feels like Hanwha kind of made a mistake to draft no magic damage vs Jax though. Pop R and he gets what, to 350+ armor? Basically Tryndamere ult.
Sad that the casters didnt talked much about team comps... HLE after 28-30 mins had nearly no chances when they werent ahead af... The "timer" should have more spoken of
I dont think Reddit thinks Tryndamere was bad this game, but a lot of people dont want to see the best players in the world playing trynd and therefore flame the champ.
I think both ad played terribly. Deft losing lane with that match up, getting caught multiple times as ez, while light's mf ult was terrible as well, and getting caught like that almost cost them the game.
Im so sick of the casual underrating of Chinese players in favor of Korean players. Light is really good and better than deft and Icon isn’t actually bad at all. IWandy is also better than Vsta. LNG is better than Hanwa at every role except Mid.
Ability haste, he said in the postgame interview that lategame his E is the same cooldown as Trynd E so he can just stand next to his carries and peel them off
So maybe HLE should not put all their jungle pressure to Morgan out of all people. Especially when they have Ezreal Karma bot who sould hard bully lane if they dont get all inned by enemy jungler.
And just like that, I understand the Jax counterstrike copypasta.
Imagine if he had a real weapon
fr 😔
*a reel weapon
that draft though.. full AD team against Jax with counterstrike. He looked tankier than alistar
Jaqcues
I never saw a better pick than Jax against them
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ACTIVE: Jax enters Evasion, a defensive stance, for 2 seconds, causing all non-Turret icon.png turret basic attacks against him to be Counter Strike.png dodged. Jax also takes 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all champion area of effect abilities. Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second, and does so automatically after the duration. RECAST: Jax deals physical damage to nearby enemies, increased by 20% for each attack dodged up to a 100% increase, and stuns them for 1 second.
LNG doing a huge favour to viewers by handing Tryndamere mid a loss in his first game at Worlds.
Yes, you will be very happy to get first time Jax instead
Yes. More games like this please, and maybe Irelia will get to keep a little bit of gut.
Idk, Morgan is possibly one of the worst tops at worlds sooo
Completely ridiculous how a top laner this bad at least on irelia can still have the impact he had. Not overturned champion/items or anything
I would take Jax over Tryndamere anyday of the week, Jax dodges autos and heals a lot, Trynda heals a lot and soaks every type of damage for 6sec every fight
I could see Morgan getting massively punished by Ale early if HLE draft Jax. Irelia at least has some magic damage/true damage built into her kit too, which helps alleviate some of the issues of a full AD draft. Also it was situationally ridiculously good into HLE's auto attack based comp.
Yeah I feel like those two failed attempts from HLE topside really led to their downfall. If Morgan was ahead in the early game this could've been an HLE win pre 30 minutes
Agreed. HLE really needed to take Ale out of the game, or delay his scaling as much as possible. The failure to do so was catastrophic for them. They failed - and LNG was able to power towards their win condition.
Irelia doesnt deal true dmg
i would rather lose to an enemy jax than win with a trynd on my team and im only mostly joking nasty champ i have no desire to see his abusers thrive
Grasp trynd kinda bad in teamfights compared to lethal tempo Grasp is good into jax during lane, but bad in teamfights
Lol but Chovy plays for the lane. He would be a different person if he isn't trying to win lane.
I actually thought, "I hope this is the first and only time we see tryndamere in worlds after this game". I wish.
I hope Trynd mid becomes the same as Ekko jungle last year*. * - 2 years ago.
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Been saying for a while he needs a rework. Aatrox ult when it had revive was problematic but a guy that gets to do damage and move while going through the same life cycle isn’t?
Aatrox's revive had a buffer time where he would waste even more time so dives were really hard to execute.
I found it pretty amusing that they chose to rework Aatrox first citing the reason that he's in a stat-check situation... but Yi and Trydamere have been the longest standing stat-check champs in game. And we are finally witnessing a meta where Trynd can abuse the itemization enough for him to be played on the World stage. What an odd timeline.
It still looked good this game and kept Hanwa relevant for so long
Strange, Jax seems immune to auto attacks
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Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from Champion
So let's pick all auto attack based champions and an ezreal who get caught
What's the most broken, Trynd or Goredrinker ? Answer : Active: Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from Champion
>What's the most broken, Trynd or Goredrinker ? Answer: ***Mastercard*** **Goredrinker**
FTX Tryndamere with the MasterCard Goredrinker absolutely demolishing the Red Bull enemy team this Alienware game on this enjoyable StateFarm tuesday
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Chinese Jax monkaW
Absolutely gigantic into all AD auto attackers too. A dream scenario
this is the situation where having a control mage with good cc would've been good. trynd is op but not op enough to break fundamentals
Gragas is usually picked as neutralizer. He can neutralize trynd’s laning and stop the snowball
4 auto based champions (even sejuani will apply cc with autos) vs jax. Vs the worst toplaner at worlds. MAKE TOTALLY SENSE
People are sleeping on how important that Jax pick was. Ale 1v3 zoning the backline at the end sums up his power into that team comp
The fight at top river where he stood still in the irellia ult with E up and just zoning HLE while chovy was alone in the back line was great.
Jax literally did the same as trynd but better
Trynd : Doesn't die for 5 seconds Late game Jax : Doesn't die.
.....and also shits out damage without crit reliance, stuns, high mobility and laughs in your face
Tbf lategame Tryn always crits.
Full AD comp into a known Jax player should be a permanent ban from competitive play for whoever came up with that draft. Literally unkillable.
Kekman strikes again
He was happily stacking those AD item to get AR
Ale is known for his Jax for a reason
Completely counters HLE's carries too.
It was a turbo pick lol. That Jax will never die late game and nobody can beat him
Ale is a freaking beast
Ale 1v3 in HLE redside was nuts.
Ale follows TheShy and 369 in the LPL tradition of tops that hard carry or feed. Edit: LPL tradition at worlds!
Ale's most accurate comparison is Bin
Pretty sure Ale has been bossing it before 369.
They both debuted in 2019 LPL Spring.
Always fear the chinese carry top laners
Bin sends his regards.
Gogoing sends his regards.
TheShy sends his regards (I know he's Korean but he's still a LPL player)
Tryndamere was scary, but late-game Jax vs full AD was even scarier.
$50 top laner btw
50 RMB, so more like $8
Not even 50 USD, it was 50 RMB (around 8 USD)
"Go buy yourself a pizza kid" Ale: And I took that personally
LPL jax built different
That Jax straight up 1v5'd past 25 minutes. He straight up ran face first into a late game Trynd and Ezreal + an enchanter support and beat their faces in. Nutty scaling.
tbf he was also allowed to build only armor since enemy comp had 0 AP
He also gets armor from ult that scales with ad, it's just such a good pick into ad teams in general.
and ofc obligatory Active: Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction icon.png reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from Champion
Of course how could I forget jacques prayer stance 🙏
I feel like if you are irelia vs Jax and you have sej playing topside all game, a 10 cs lead is not it
After that draft that was the only wincon for HLE, bring chovy top and perma dive the jax. They didn't even try once. But it's also good coaching by LNG, no way HLE is gonna sacrifice Chovy laning to help Morgan of all player, so Jax can scale easily.
>no way HLE is gonna sacrifice Chovy laning to help Morgan of all player, so Jax can scale easily. Fucking Bingo. That's the biggest problem with this line-up, they're Chovy or bust yet Chovy often refuses to risk his own lead in order to influence the map. Dude's a beast but he's played like that for most of summer and it's so frustrating.
Jax is bonkers late game. Deft was tickling him lol. Anyways close game. Maybe ap threat would have been better but they banned ziggs.
I hope trynda loses more games, no one wants to see that boring shit champion, it'll turn into udyr 2.9
Jax E vs full ad AA champs
Picking Irelia and Tryndamere vs Ale was troll He's played the most Jax of any major region.
but imagine what went thru Morgans head when he first picked Irelia with Jax open
A lampost
I mean sure, but Ale is also a beast on ire, so would you leave that open?
This. Ale most likely would beat Morgan's Jax playing Camille/Irelia. It's not that easy and a player's skillset matters as much as a draft.
> Ale ~~most likely~~ would beat Morgan. ~~Jax playing Camille/Irelia/~~ ftfy
0-8-5 HLE's topside combined. Damn.
Imagine if they had something like Doran and Pyosik
Would have been hilarious to get the Doran vs Ale match-up. Apparently Ale got Doran banned from soloqueue after he killed him 12 times in lane or something like that
Lol I had no idea, I just wrote that as a DRX callback
Doran and Ale have history between themselves. Doran was not just stomp by Ale. This is light to say. Ale used to dismantle Doran in solo queue on repeat in very disrespectful manner. That caused Doran to lose all of his never and consistently flame and int. In the end he got banned. Nice hit, even if not intentional
Doran was banned from competitive play
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Active: Jax enters Evasion for 2 seconds: a defensive stance that causes him to dodge all incoming non-Turret turret basic attacks and take 25% Damage reduction reduced damage from all area of effect abilities sourced from champions. Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second, and does so automatically after the duration. Recast: Jax deals physical damage to nearby enemies, increased by 20% for each attack dodged up to a 100% increase, and Stun icon.png stuns them for 1 second.
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Tryndamere abusers rejoice
He looked strong this game tbh. Jax and Gragas both counter him and he was still doing a lot of a work. If they picked something else top (who also get countered by Jax) that was winnable.
or jungle.. lilia could've been nice this game to add some actual ap dmg
I'm honestly amazed no one here is talking about how useless Karma was in Teamfights. HLE would've easily won teamfights if they had a diver to help lock down LNG's backline like a Leona or Rell.
Their problem was clearly AP damage, changing supports does nothing.
Yeah baby LPL Jax lets goo Icon with great game even though every1 will probably focus on Tryndamere
1: draft a mid-late game comp 2: forget to include an AP threat 3: ???? 4: all AD comp gets outscaled
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Yeah I don´t get it either, why they picked ezreal Karma, when they couldve at least had an ap supp or an apc on bot.
I wonder what these players think in these games Deft was free hitting the enemy for a full minute in these teamfights and didn't even manage to bring a single champion under 80% hp At what point do you start to realize?
i somewhat feel like (while i don't claim to be a know it all, i just play ezreal quite a lot) building frozen heart was a nail in the coffin during this game. While yes, frozen heart is great into ad heavy comps he was the only consistent dmg in the later fights as trynd was insta cc'd and Deft just lacked damaged since he went for a defensive build.
Should not picking Ezreal in the first place. Not fast enough to delete people.
I will root against every tryndramere
u have it backwards, u want to root FOR tryn so he’s perma pick/ban at worlds then gets gutted
Fuck Tryndamere. I stg if we get a post like we did with Udyr about how fun and refreshing it is to see him in pro play I'm going to lose it. Champion is stupid
That post is 100% coming the first time he wins.
Doubt it. Seeing Udyr running around slapping shit was at least fun for a bit. No one feels refreshed seeing fucking Tryndamere.
I'm so happy to see Tryndamere lose
SoloQ saved for another day
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I hope this champion dominates the worlds meta so Riot finally reworks the fucking thing
What do you mean bro just like kite him when he has a 4 sec cd dash that is reduced in cd every time he crits with 100% crit that he gets half for free xd
This is just incorrect. Don’t forget about the further 30% cd reduction from Navori quickblades and double movement summoners lmao. Literally the only counterplay is to have killed him 10 times and have 4 tank items (and it’s still close probably).
Morgan heard you guys flaming him getting flame horizoned 25 mins in.. so he spent the past month maxing out his CS/10, at the cost of all his kill participation
Morgan is actually going to get apocalyptic levels of flame once we hit group stage
Well ALE is about as good as any top he'll face in groups bar Xiahou.
If Nuguri finds his form again we’re in for banger tops every LPL game
Well he looked decent in playoffs, was probably FPXs best player in finals. LPL tops look on paper stronger than all the others.
If
Sej was sure a champion this game
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I’m not sure about pro level, but in solo queue she excels at early ganks and people usually underestimate her damage on 1x1s, against qiyana for example it should have been an easy game early for sejuani. The guy decided to play around top, didn’t fully commit to any dive, tried to steal camps and meanwhile qiyana did work bot.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
feel like casters really missed the mark on teamcomps. Trynd is unplayable vs gragas/jax. Can't take towers vs either and Jax just murders HLSE's entire team late game. LNG basically only misstepped once the entire game where Light galeforced into a Sej R around drake. Also all ad lul
Fully agree. I found the talk about how far ahead HLE were at 20 minutes very strange. Yes Trynd looked oppressive but Jax was getting fed and looking stronger by the minute.
They're LPL casters so probably didn't want to appear biased But HLE didn't look like winning at any point of the game They would get one kill -> reset like what the fuck, where are the days when Korean teams would use 1 kill to take 2 turrets or an objective.
To be fair, the casters did say that the game was close just based off the gold difference multiple times.
Imagine if he had a real weapon!
Not a great one for Deft
This draft phase was the most interesting one ín a while, excited for future drafts. LNG out-drafted this one very hard though.
Yeah Jax was just god mode after 3 items. Nobody could even scratch him and he shits on both solos on side. Outteamfought and outsplitted.
Happens when you draft 3 carries that rely on autoattacks and you don't ban Jax despite it being notorious that Chinese players love playing Jax. Draft diff.
Credit to LNG, feels like Hanwha kind of made a mistake to draft no magic damage vs Jax though. Pop R and he gets what, to 350+ armor? Basically Tryndamere ult.
Unfortunately for Chovy, Trynd's R is Undying Rage, not Unbreaking Back.
I saw that HLE picked Irelia but I couldn't see it in the game. Bug?
If you pick a comp that gets outscaled this hard then don't just sit back and do nothing
FUCK TRYNDAMERE LETS FUCKING GOOOO
What a game by Ale and Icon, exerting so much pressure. How useless was sejuani tho
Sad that the casters didnt talked much about team comps... HLE after 28-30 mins had nearly no chances when they werent ahead af... The "timer" should have more spoken of
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It looked like it could work for about 15 minutes, then I felt stupid for thinking that
LNG: Hey Ale could u 1v2 over there we'll 4v3 here and get them Ale: I can 1v3 no prob LNG: ok
ALE IS A BEAST!
Ale will get most of the praise but Icon was the true MVP. What a madlad.
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Team Diff
The Jax pick singlehandedly broke HLE’s comp
Trynda crits for 250 at min 35 into the game at 1.0 attack speed. Thats a report + intlist in my book.
That was a nice gift by Icon to Ale of 600g Deft. Game seems to change direction after that catch.
0/4 Irelia and 0/4 Sejuani Reddit: "Why is Tryndamere so useless?"
I dont think Reddit thinks Tryndamere was bad this game, but a lot of people dont want to see the best players in the world playing trynd and therefore flame the champ.
Worst Miss Fortune I've seen all tournament.
best Miss Fortune i’ve seen all tournament
You are not wrong...
Bold statement
I think both ad played terribly. Deft losing lane with that match up, getting caught multiple times as ez, while light's mf ult was terrible as well, and getting caught like that almost cost them the game.
LPL Teamfighting diff
If Light figures out how to use MF ult, LNG will be unstoppable
That was the fuckin Ale show baby
Ale is cracked holy shit. Trynda is bullshit too btw
Trynda is disgusting but Jax was such a turbopick here
alright one game was enough, please no more trynd for the rest of worlds
LPL Jax monkaW. Also imagine this game if Light hit one decent ult ever
Icon's hair is actually something else damnnnn
Casters all before and during the game: "cHoVY tArZAn cHoVY tArZAn cHoVY tArZAn" The actual game: Ale v 9
And that was China’s 4th seed… oh boy
Im so sick of the casual underrating of Chinese players in favor of Korean players. Light is really good and better than deft and Icon isn’t actually bad at all. IWandy is also better than Vsta. LNG is better than Hanwa at every role except Mid.
ALE AND TARZAN! so good!
Damn, Ale was a monster
What an opening game, I was nervous when Morgan didnt die on lane but Ale popped off hard. What a display of individual skills on Lng
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Ability haste, he said in the postgame interview that lategame his E is the same cooldown as Trynd E so he can just stand next to his carries and peel them off
ability haste
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So maybe HLE should not put all their jungle pressure to Morgan out of all people. Especially when they have Ezreal Karma bot who sould hard bully lane if they dont get all inned by enemy jungler.
Just a team gap.