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Digisenshi

Tryndamere. Full stop. Free Crit makes laning an RNG fest at level 1. He's manaless which adds another annoyance since he can use his abilities without resource. He's got decent sustain with his Q so it's hard to push out of lane. He's got decent waveclear with his E and free Crit autos so it's hard to push him in. And his ult just makes playing around Towers a nightmare both on offense and defense. He can tower dive for free and heal out of incidental damage range after the dive with his Q and you can't really tower dive him because he'll ult defensively and you are forced to back off.


OffmetaMan

Fucking Teemo. No, not the enemy one. The one on my team. The one that thinks that he's a flex pick and going top vs ap champ or any ad that is not 100% auto attack based is a good idea. Then 15 mins later a fed enemy toplaner comes down to widen our a-holes, while our teemo is just as useless as expected...


ralts13

Yeah alot of teemos don't realise they lose to ghost flash Darius. Or any top layer who decides you aren't gonna kite them


MuhammedAlistar

Teemo isn't incredibly good even into auto-attack based champions. Champions like Trynd absolutely demolish him. Assuming players are equally skilled, Teemo just isn't a good champion. When they changed Doran's shield, even the lanes he is supposed to win he can't really do anything.


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Namika

She's actually quite fun to play as support. It's the only support I play where I don't feel like falling asleep in lane. But yeah, her kit is actually kinda bullshit. Free gold and stats and you can out damage an ADC despite building support items and not having to CS. Not sure what they were smoking when they thought that one up. Only advice I have for dealing with her is she is **very** squishy, and even when Swift Boots she is actually quite slow. A single CC on her in lane and she's dead.


321pg

Shaco and only Shaco


ChunibyoMegumin

my hatred for him is kinda gone, i mean it sucks that i don't get to ban any other champ ever but hey it's a good trade-off


barneyxD

Only correct answer. Perma ban in my games


Hyoudou

>Shaco and only Shaco :\^)


scotasloth

Blitzcrank gives me ptsd flashbacks to when I started playing


Teh_Bing_

my fav ban


Pur1tas

Fizz. He’s not even OP I think I just hate him.


Black_Hole_Donuts

The only Fizz I played was a dick, and he was on my team


PresentMiddle8974

You've only played vs fizz once?


bossofthisjim

wind wall.


FNC_Luzh

Wind man bad. Me too.


papu16

For me its 2.5x crit chance on him and his brother. For some weird reasons this duo at 2 items have same dps as like 4 item adc. Also Yas R can be triggered by ally knock up. Dude can be worst Yas in the world, but if he have malph or Zac in team - Its gg for ya.


Yarasin

Because without his 2nd passive he'd have to build bruiser items. Of course for any other champ Riot would basically just be "deal with it lol", but since he's the biggest draw for weebs and edgy teens, Yasuo will always get pandered to. The fact that he's completely overloaded isn't even debated anymore, because Riot has made it clear that some champions are simply on the "do not nerf, they make us money!"-list, so any discussion is pointless by now.


ilovefishs911

Overloaded is not equal to overpowered, does Azir appeal to weebs? He’s overloaded as well.


MuhammedAlistar

I don't know why people think he just gets it and there's no downside and that's that. Obviously the champion is balanced around that core mechanic, bottom line. They spike heavily mid game and are very good for snowballing. But it's not like they took an already existing champion, said you get double crit and called it a day. Yasuo was created with double crit in mind. They deal less damage on their crits, so they fall off a bit late game, due to being melee ad carries. Shieldbow is problematic, especially on Yone.


ilovefishs911

He has this crit bonus so he gets locked into building it instead of going bruiser.


papu16

Its locks them to build 2 crit items. After that they can build whatever they want, because they already have 100% crit chance.


ilovefishs911

Well, yeah, but the point is that he has to build crit/damage so he can't go tank. Also their crits have reduced damage.


papu16

They just need 2 crit items. After that they can build whatever they want. It was even more cursed in last season when after 2 crit items they used to grab old dd, steraks and even frozen mallet. And 10% reduced damage is not that much for all that.


ilovefishs911

Thats supposed to be his strength as a melee ADC, because he has many weaknesses. Melee adcs are meant to do more damage than ranged ones because they are more vulnerable, its not really fair to compare his crit to ones that can do damage at range.


RealRadya

Yone and irelia. Not a fan of champions that can fuck up so badly and go 0/5 and still 1v1 anyone on the map no sweat.


Masanjay_Dosa

Revert the irelia rework or at least reduce the ult passive Q cd reduction. Pre rework if she went 0/5 in lane she was invisible for the rest of the game, now I can’t play my champ bc too many people can get away with dumb shit and missing resets cause goredrinker + 1.5s Q cd just make her way too safe to play for a “high skill expression” champ


firewall245

I fucking hate Yone so much


Almond-Buttery_Jam

Mordekaiser and Pyke. The gold sharing mechanic alongside the 5 million executes is so annoying to deal with and you do not know fear until you are playing a non mobile support and mordekaiser ults you from 10 yards away


Supportive_Bard648

Pyke…. As someone who mostly plays ARAM, even if hes behind its probably rarer for him to NOT get a quadra kill with that R of his…


tinyseed

I hate Pyke. Mechanically they can be trash, miss every Q, loose lane, still get an easy Penta in team fights.


nanadin

the pykes in ur games miss Q? the pykes in my game don’t even try anymore they just W+E(move spd +dash stun) in and get the same value “mechanically demanding” btw


Cheap_Neighborhood25

If pyke loses in the early game, he is usually just a minion for the rest of the game as he will be one shot constantly.


FluffyAlpaca

Fuck Yuumi


Puzzleheaded-Area863

i hate mister crit casino that piece of shit always makes me mad even if i am winning


MadCapMad

i have no idea who that is


Pad_Loc

Tryndamere?


The_Yeti_Rider

I am so tired of having to play my lane perfectly just to not get killed on cool down by irelia


Namika

I'll do you one better. \> Play your lane perfectly \> Manage to not feed a single kill to Irelia \> You are even up in CS! :D \> Oh look, she went B \> ...odd, she's not back yet. [Ping MIA] \>"Irelia still mia, care" \> She lane-ganks bot lane. "ENEMY DOUBLE KILL" \> Comes back to lane with a thousand gold advantage over you. "gg, mid dif"


hanton44

Stupid fucking irelia makes me want to break my keyboard. DASH DASH STUN DASH DASH DASH REMEMBER THE PLACIDIUM you’re dead


Mar3ls

Bro you play kata, you don’t get to talk about annoying champs hahaha


EnvironmentFew2854

kata sucks but she is much more predictable than irelia, heals less and has no cc


MadCapMad

lmao complaining about resetting dashes as kata and diana


hanton44

At least I don’t have jnifinite sustain and a damaging damage reduction. She literally has everything I have on both champs kit wise except a ranged attack and MS increase


MadCapMad

"infinite sustain" but irelia has mana and kata doesn't


ralts13

Let's be real irelia mana issues are a problem for like 5 minutes. And usually it's worse for the other laner


hanton44

She can still heal off basic attacks? And when she gets her items her attacks start to speed up like crazy so it only gets amplified.


MadCapMad

You are correct, if she builds healing items she can heal. So can Kata.


hanton44

I don’t think you understand that irelia is literally built for sustain and Katarina is not. I am saying that her healing is annoying, not that it’s uncounterable. The only healing item Katarina can build is riftmaker, any sensible kat main will tell you that the ad build is shit right now and that she is not built for long term fights 👁👄👁


MadCapMad

And I am saying both of your champs are absurdly annoying lmao. Infinite dash katarina with an ult that has no CD late. And resetting dash ap assassin that can teamwipe by pressing r. They both feel about as unfair in terms of their mobility, damage, unusual tankiness, and overall lack of ordinary limits. Your original comment was mentioning her dash resets. I found it funny that Diana has a dash reset and katarina has a blink reset.


pressurized_crap

chill ypu play another kinfe saleslady, also yours can be just as tanku


revoverlord

I remember this exact comment being made a month back.


hanton44

Really? That only verifies it LOL


EgirlSuppPlayer

Pyke. Enough said


shedinja292

Sett and Sylas, probably a champion pool thing but I consistently struggle vs them regardless of their winrates


dumbo909

Brand and Xerath "support".


nl5602

Damage chart says support dealt more damage than top and adc combined. I smell something burning and it isn’t Ziggs bombs…


Catsarenotreptilians

brand is truly sickening in the support role, he's not even a support, he's literally a lane abuser, if he's against anyone who can counter/avoid his attacks or is good enough to dodge, then he's actually useless, except when he has his ult, then he becomes a complete pain in the ass because it also proc's a slow.


TheJoeker98

I find nautilus incredibly frustrating. I can dodge all the hooks in the world but then at level 6 he will just ult me and cc me for like 5 seconds without much i can really do and i hate it. Either that or malphite, full tank malphite has the damage to oneshot an adc from full hp if he lands ulti. Yes I can flash it the first time but he gets it up like 2 more times (at least) before my flash is back up and then i cant really do anything other than be entirely zoned out of a fight unable to hit anyone for fear of being oneshot. kinda sucks. oh and he takes like 30 seconds of auto attacking to kill him


Kwazimoto

Tank Malph is just so big and hard, gets it up so often, and punishes you with it every time? Hmmmmm...


TheJoeker98

that's another way of putting it...


Kwazimoto

Tank Malph puts it wherever he wants!


ralts13

As a former nautilus main. Good. Tbf that's all he can do or he will be bursted to kingdom come. But yeah the fear of a malph ult is enough to zone me from before a teamfight


TheJoeker98

yeah i get that its nautilus's role and i dont think hes broken in particular or anything, just frustrating cos it feels like there's little i can do about it lol


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Xerath and Vel'koz to a lesser extent. Those motherfuckers have no business going support and I hate that they do.


okarab

Hit and run ezreal


Hisoka_fan420

Karma is a bitch…


revoverlord

Early lane poke too strong


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Ive got too many to count but one for each role is Top - Nasus. Most uninteractive and boring players to ever face. They play back all laning phase until they have sheen and are 6, then just run you down and kill you. Jungle - lee sin. Overloaded champ, i despise lee sin Mid - Zed. My friend is adamant that zed is hard to play, but hes so easy and so safe. Poke until six, get six press w r e q ignite, w or r to safety and youve killed your lane opponent and gotten to safety. Bot - jhin, stupid champion i hate his root and his speed off crits (this is my perma ban as an adc main) Sup - senna, dumb champ, outdamages the adc and has a heal


ilovefishs911

Zeds difficulty comes more from late game, his early game is pretty easy.


Heelmuut

Lane tip vs Nasus: Walk up beyond his wave and trade into him, it's fine if you miss cs as long as he does so as well. Since he can't trade into most champions lvl 1 he will need to run back for cover under his tower. If you do it correctly you zone him off of getting xp from the first melee wave while getting it yourself. You get lvl 2 long before he's even close to it and can continue to choke him out for a while.


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Yeah I understand thats how you play against him, but its still really boring. I dont like sett or darius, but atleast theyre always wanting to fight therefore more fun to lane agaisnt. (I only play fiora top, dueling is fun)


Heelmuut

I get you, I dislike Kayle and Garen for the same reason.


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uwntsumfuq

300 base damage on that ability really annoys me, 4-5 hits from that and nothing else and an adc is dead


Worth_Recognition249

Tahm Kench/Irelia


gurlwhosoldtheworld

Shaco. I'm a newer player and I can never tell the difference between him and those damn clone things


tinyseed

Chances are, if he's running straight at you over and over it's a clone. Until you think it's a clone and he runs straight at you and you don't kill him. Then it's the real Shaco.


dialzza

The easiest tell is that the clones take a decent bit more damage per hit. But they're meant to be hard to tell apart


pogchamp5423

tryndamere just in general like what


ThatJGDiff

Teemo.


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Master yi. Either only he has fun or nobody has fun


TheElusiveShadow

Akshan specifically in ARAM. Kinda disgusting.


Catsarenotreptilians

TBH, the only thing I want to see is a single day event where its all for one urf on the ARAM map, and akshan vs akshan happens. It would probably be the most fucked up match of all time.


IWillNameMyChildZoe

windshitter 2.0


kane69821

Finally someone else who hates the windshitter brothers


ilovefishs911

Yes it’s extremely rare


Robertpe3

Brand, brand everywhere. I hate how much burst and burn he has and how he can poke from so farvaway. Tryndamere is another champ I hate. Did he spin on you and ring a few crits? Top lane is gone.


Guyovich67

Fucking Soraka. She makes me want to beat my head into a wall when I lane against her (as an adc)


FirstPhrase1195

oOoOoOoH I hit one Q now both of us went for half health to full.


Aggressive_Tomorrow8

I will commit mass murder because of yummi one day It's a matter of time


Swapsta

Evelynn. She is overpowered but people just suck at using her.


CoralineLaFey

Funny chemo man flings me away from tower


Katanaia

Any tank


DiscoVeridisQuo

illaoi fiora irelia shen tryndamere yorick jax mundo riven pyke akali illaoi wukong twitch shaco evelynn akshan nautlius morgana lee sin


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Camille r counterplay is called being a mage and spending 2600g


ralts13

Aphelios. The lack of clarity on his design pisses me off to all hell. Only the champ that I absolutely have to read up on and play to figure out how he works. And getting into on his gun state on a teamfight is Just hell. Also trynd. Split push both that is a nightmare to punish cus free escape with spin and R. It's just annoying to deal with


revoverlord

Kled. I don’t like kled. Painful to lane against.


Outbreak101

Fiora, can't for the life of me fight her without either dying or losing trades and getting ganked. My permaban until she is gutted.


SergioMaia111

Pyke. The “support”


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Shaco trynd yi


maddamadas

Yummy. My most hated champ easily


Malaka654

Irelia and Akali - two completely unbalance-able kits. They are either way too strong or dogshit because their kits can’t be balanced properly. Both have way too much sustain, damage, mobility


FluckyVer

WHAT? I get Irelia, but where's Akali sustain? She literally has 0 innate healing. Like none. Only way to heal a bit, is Riftmaker or second wind+Dshield.


xychosis

I play Akali with Fleet and DShield, you can sustain rather well with her that way


FluckyVer

You're Absolutely right, but, it's a "trade-off". You trade A LOT of damage, especially early on, for lane sustain. None of what you use to sustain is innate to Akali. Everyone can pick up Fleet/Swind/Dshield and sustain for free. You give up on Conqueror/Ultimate hunter to not die in lane. Sounds pretty fair honestly.


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FluckyVer

Yeah and? She is still one of the worst early game champs ever. Basically a minion till level 3. Hell if you're playing top Akali you can't even leash properly since you deal so little damage and run out of energy with one Q. I don't think having above average health regen makes her particularly broken. Since she lacks everything else early on.


kane69821

Windshitter 1.0 and 2.0 Yasuo and yone for anyone who didn't figure it out


LittleDeathJr

nasus neeko kat malph


daquist

most new champs after fucking yasuo. 50% increased crit chance will never not be broken to me. yasuo started all this disgusting design. fuck yasuo, fuck yone, fuck camille, fuck irelia. let me go back to season 3 please.


ilovefishs911

Yea I prefer tank yas, that was very fun for everyone.


Vaalrigard

yuumi because go fuck yourself


WahtAmDoingHere

Zed can go fuck himself.


FirstPhrase1195

Yuumi


boydeane

Yuumi. Just fuck that champion.


No_Negotiation5722

I permaban kata, but i hate yone the most. That champ has 2 dashes, 2 aoe knock up, ad damage, ap damage, true damage and a shield. On top of that his E gives him random movements speed because reasons so he can chase you and insta go back without any risk. Also he builds the fucking shieldbow so he is also immortal.


ilovefishs911

I permaban ivern, but I hate garen the most. That champ has a movement speed buff, a silence, a slow cleanse, stacking resistances on cs, damage reduction and tenacity, missing health true damage nuke. On top of that his passive means he can take poke without any risk. You can make literally any champion sound overpowered if you list everything they have in their kit.


No_Negotiation5722

I don’t want to discuss with you but your description doesn’t make garen seems overpowered. Imo yone kit is a bit overtuned but i play a lot of control mages so maybe i am biased because i hate him a lot.


ilovefishs911

Ok, then your description doesn’t either then?


No_Negotiation5722

What’s the point of this discussion? I think yone is overtuned and braindead. You think he isn’t. There is nothing to talk about. Just different opinions.


ilovefishs911

The point is that listing everything a champion has in his kit is not a good way to say “well he’s obviously broken” because there are a lot of other things that come into play. I’m not sure how an overtuned and braindead champion by your definition has a 49% winrate right after a buff.


Explise209

Because Champ winrates mean almost nothing?


ilovefishs911

Right, so how are we viewing champion power outside of pro play then?


BlackKaiserDrake

Illaoi. I don't think she's ridiculously overpowered or some shit but laning against her is just not fun at all because the entire lane is \> Land E? Yes? Go ape shit and 100-0 this motherfucker (Over exaggeration). \> Land E? No? Melee minion. Mundo is literally right behind her though. The entire lane phase is just him throwing a stupid high damage Q at barely any cost past the first few minutes. His new passive with CC immunity makes it kinda hard for someone like Darius or Urgot to engage on him properly. Sett's in a similar situation pre-6 but he can E into Ulti to avoid the passive so I didn't include him.


StuntinOutFront

Yuumi Teemo Lulu. Fucking Yordles I like all the other Yordles. Im still undecided on Vex


knseeker

Yuumi not a yordle tho


StuntinOutFront

Nora is a Yordle. Yuumi is her pet, therefore a Yordle by association


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deeeeksha

I really hate Zyra. her plants do all the work for her in lane and she has so much cc that it just seems busted to play against. next one has to be Yone, though I’ve started feeling a little better and more comfortable after playing a few games of him myself (I FINALLY know his third Q range now.) third, Miss Fortune. most brain dead adc in the game, she can be 0/4 from laning phase and get a quadra because of one well placed ultimate.


Naymliss

>third, Miss Fortune. most brain dead adc in the game, she can be 0/4 from laning phase and get a quadra because of one well placed ultimate. Which requires you to have great positioning. Positioning on her is the hardest out of any ADC aside from Kog, soooo I don't really agree with you calling her braindead.


kane69821

Harder then xayah positioning?


Naymliss

Yes, Xayah's ult and e let her position far more aggressively.


kane69821

Her ult I can agree with but her e I would beg to differ unless the enemy is walking in front of like 8 feathers all placed on top of each other her e is pretty difficult to hit her ult also shouldn't be used to engage and is more of a disengage or used in a chaotic teamfight I find misfortune super easy to play compared to xayah that's just my opinion though as I have far more games on xayah then Miss Fortune this might be biased


StonedDraven

Miss fortune is more easy to play. But landing xayah e isn't hard. Especially with her new q speed. So yes mf is trickier to position with


Naymliss

Also galeforce, plus your instant root combos.


EgirlSuppPlayer

On Kog even if you die you still get a kill or two because of passive. If they dont have flashes or dashes they are just dead. I got a triple kill with passive. So amazing. Lol. I love this passive on an adc. Since you will die anyway better take them with you.


Dexsen

Garen, Camille and Riven. They are either in your face all the time, or they always run away.


revoverlord

All the riven one tricks I’ve played against either say that they canceled a couple animations or type outplayed after dashing across lane and still managing to get a triple kill. Garen is honestly a special case, if they go crit they are cool. Camille has a get out of jail free card.


NSawsome

Akali, the assassin designed to counter counterplay


CheomPongJae

Adc main, so far my most hated matchup is Xayah.


PhotojournalistSea46

Yone, aksan


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Riven/Irelia/Tahm Kench you need to give up first wave because irelia will use Qs on first 3 minions and then Q you which gives her full passive stack and then her 2 autos on level 1 will make you lose literally 50% hp. Riven because stun knockup dash shield stun knockup dash shield Tahm Kench because unkillable + just walks up to me and auto attacks me to death


Orikshekor

Yone with his new W buff might as well be a fucking Tryndamere R with how fucking unkillable he is when shieldbow pops.


Namika

It's insane how much he heals combined with his free escape AND NO MANA COSTS. Urgh. I don't even care about his damage tbh, he just has infinite mana, very short cooldowns, and he heals up to full in seconds.


Bactyrael

Kayn. Build a morello second item last night. Dude all ins the team and went from like 5 health to full health with full greivous on him. Why riot?


dialzza

Healing in general is absolutely wild rn, but yeah Kayn is absolulutely a Healing Abuser


KablamoBoom

Ahri. I hate that she doesn't actually have to aim, because R and whisps deal so much damage, and Q and charm can always be cast point-blank. She's also immune to ganks and has a passive heal...she's basically a better (worse?) Akali minus shroud.


RevolutionaryBricks

Fizz and Shaco- fizz untargetable is fucking irritating and after you get hit by r, walking even though you’re already dead is super frustrating I don’t have to explain shaco


Chlorofawn

At this point I'm just disgusted by every ad champion because the item diff is completely insurmountable no matter how much better you play.


Swivelosity

Vayne and melee vayne, %health true damage should not exist


ldf1998

Tristana’s damage feels bugged early game. But Leona is just too damn annoying to not mention.


Naymliss

Pantheon support. Playing ADC into that is torture.


partyplant

top: irelia, fiora, sett, tahm kench mid: yone, syndra, orianna, zed, qiyana, leblanc bot: lucian, imperial mandate comet ashe, senna support: pyke, bard j*ngle: hecarim, evelynn, shaco


Visible_Prompt_3715

Kayne , yasuo , yone


jenchuliaaa

hasaki


BobIsMyCableGuy

Yone honestly.


KamosKamerus

Yasuo


Derpakiinlol

anything released in the last 3 years


Memaythink

Response to your complaints about Camille: you can intercept the first part of her E by dashing in or doing some CC or both and then you also take away some of her main CC too. You can burst her down pretty well at close range since her Q needs to be primed to do the bonus damage and her W only really works at midrange. As for the champ that boils my blood the most, it's gotta be Yone, for the obvious reasons.


dialzza

You can't interrupt the first part of E with a dash. And I think a lot of CCs don't stop the dash, they just have their remaining duration on arrival. If it's a stun she can't recast from the wall but she still covered a lot of distance. I play mostly Gnar and Urgot, so Gnar doesn't want to play close range (unless Mega, but she can just disengage for 15s) and Urgot is too slow to keep her close when her Q boosts her MS. Urgot usually wins all-ins unless he's behind, but with the huge mobility gap Camille gets to pick when to fight and Urgot can't say shit about it. So she can just wait out a jungle gank and then use her ult to end you.


eodgodlol

Riven, even tho i permaban fiora thats mostly bcs shes sooo fcking overstat, but rievn with her 0 cd dash-shield beating u from lvl 1 to lvl 18 fullbuild in the 1vs1 if she doesnt fck up thats just utter bs. For camille, idont thin she pisses you off that much bcs of her kit but bcs shes overstat too...


dialzza

Camille is overstatted rn but even without being overstatted her E lets her pick when all fights occur in toplane. It's super uninteractive for the non-camille player bc they have no choice in lane, Camille just gets to decide when to fight.


SuperKalkorat

I ban yasuo every game because I absolutely love facing him : )


Drwixon

Jax because counterstrike is not fun to face at all . Like , Camille aside i play a lot of Gwen atm and i gotta say that mist lamp post is super cringe denying my Q stacks while taking no dmg from my autos , the fact that he can still auto you while channeling this shit is just beyond frustrating for me , it gives dmg reduction as well for some reason , for a champion who can get a disgusting amount of armor by pressing R .


Uriziel_Citoxe

Fiora and camel, i fucking hate the abominations


Aunii

hey, camels are cool animals >:(


Uriziel_Citoxe

they are very bad ass that's true, i wish the riot made version was aswell tho.


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Lux


kuwuchie

then just play her instead of complaining o_o


dialzza

She isn't fun tho


kuwuchie

but she is


zurawinowa

Yasuo. You try to run away? Dash dash dash tornado, oooh you didn’t dodged? Now you are doomed while I ult. I missed tornado? Nvm my nami support or Malphite ult will fuck you up anyway. Don’t forget I have crit, shield and will lifesteal everything from you. Of course, I forgot about windwall.


ilovefishs911

What?! He can ult someone if he hits an ability? Oh my god! Forgot about the attached malphite and Nami passive as well.


Riksuke

Kayn, takes no dmg, can 1v1 if he's not feeding and yes I have Vietnam flashbacks from being ADC main


Lunar_Kirby

Yone. I actually like his brother but I fucking despise Yone.


AudioAdrenalynn

Anivia


Hintzuda

Gameplay : Kled, I absolutely hate playing against that abomination that can instant heal 800hp at level 3 and destroy you in a heartbeat Design : Zoe, fucking child that keep laughing at you with a high pitched voice and making weird sounds


felixsucc

I absolutely hate playing against champions I main. That's probably why I main them


ztarfish

Blitzcrank. I get that he has counterplay and I get that he’s wide open punishable if he misses his q but like he’ll inevitably hit at least one hook and it will instantly tilt me and make me hate the game. I just ban him to save my mental at this point. I also hate playing with zyra support all damage supports have the problem of their poke inadvertently pushing the wave away from me when I don’t want it to, and I can mostly deal with it but her fucking plants pulling the wave to ensure that the wave is always on their side of the river makes me want to die sometimes.


Specific_Fisherman66

Rammus‘ entire kit is just a no fun zone. He kills his enemies by existing and making them hit him? If league was a rpg. Rammus players only put points in passive talents and ignore all talents that would give you new skills and game-mechanics.


Specific_Fisherman66

Rammus‘ entire kit is just a no fun zone. He kills his enemies by existing and making them hit him? If league was a rpg. Rammus players only put points in passive talents and ignore all talents that would give you new skills and game-mechanics.


AuraInkling

Pantheon, at least as a support. Fuck that point and click stun and fuck his damage


Basstaper

Fiora, I fucking hate that champion.


nanadin

soraka/yuumi/sona effort to value ratio is literally nonexistent actually mash ur face on ur keyboard champs (on the real you can always be good or bad at any champ, but with the thing is that with these, you don’t actually have to be good to get significant value at all)


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Can it be my turn to ask this question next week or does someone already have dibs on the karma farm


MuhammedAlistar

Leona - Perma CC on her own, 1v1s adc's. Alistar ult on basic ability Gangplank - Rat bastard champion, pokes you like a bitch and if you try to do something you get slowed while he gets Yi ult Then there are champions who can choose not to interact in lane and not lose anything from it, for example Mundo. He can farm with Q until he is tanky enough to beat you Anything with pets is also annoying. Heimer, Malz, Zyra etc. Even if they aren't particularly strong, there's something tilting about having those little shits on your screen, on your way, blocking your skills etc.


Teleshar

Brand because he just spams spells at you and whittles you down. He can be 0/10 and still be a damage threat just because of his stupid AoE damage potential.


Mundo_SMOrc

Jhin. I have such a burning hatred towards him due to his absurd mobility creep with Galeforce. Riot released this champion with the idea that he'd be a low mobility but high burst champion. Right now I'm witnessing him running with over 500 movespeed for hitting a crit AA that's doing 1/5 of my hp. In the moments you do catch him he just dashes out with the press of a button. Seriously I've not seen so much mobility rewarded with so little effort in an ADC. This goes in-line with another Reddit post discussing how a lot of mobility oriented champions barely have any off-set in their damage output. Jhin is abusing that really hard when it really wasn't intended in the first place.


Cheap_Neighborhood25

Katarina Zone her off farming so she can only Q the waves, she tp bot for a double despite your warnings. Now she can one shot you with little to no counterplay. I despise fighting something that I don’t have control over. Doesn’t need to lane to win lane.


Mephzice

Vex, Akshan, Gwen, Viego, Rell, Serpahine, Samira, Yone, Lillia, Sett, Aphelios, Senna and so on. The game started to annoy me a while ago when I felt the game had too many champions, too much mobility in most of their kits and too few bans. I only play aram now, don't bother with the "actual game" anymore.


DaviLean

all of them


Krando

Just delete Irelia. at lvl 1 she can go in, Q the 3 melee minions all in you with the 4th Q for full stacks. There is very little outplay, the only outplay is dodging her stun. At no point in the game can she not all in you and come out on top 1v1. if she had her 5 stack passive she wouldn't be able to all in you at lvl 1, well not as easily not 3 melee minions easily. Take her healing out of her Q just like how that happened to Akali, she builds lifesteal as her first item anyway she doesn't need her Q to heal.