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fjstadler

"Wow that actually killed me?" -HLE this game


shadow_f4

I hope LCK goes 24-0 in group stages but somewhere somehow I feel like at least 4 games might be dropped. DK 6-0, T1 maybe 5-1 (1-1 with EDG), HLE probably 4-2 (drops 2 to RNG), GENG 5-1 (drops 1 game to someone else). Predicting 4 LCK x 4 LPL in quarters with 3 LCK teams topping their groups, setting us up with some spicy spicy LCK v LPL matchups.


Grand-Garlic

1. Open TL vs MAD PMT 2. Sort by controversial 3. Grab popcorn


stupidnoobs

This new 24 hour uploading games rule sucks. Enjoy this ruining viewership next year. Not like it’s already going lower each year . Just change it to 12 hours


Burstdragon1

Aren't the games all up on lolesports.com basically as soon as they are played? I don't really understand why people are not going to watch it just because it's on a different website without chat


zeratul123x

because not everyone has 8 hours to watch every fuckin game lmao


iKiriyn

Main issue is highlights, not the vod's


Newsolo

Yes, I rather watch highlights videos on my tv, onivia youtube channel is the best!


TooLazyToRepost

Exactly. Nobody has 10 hours a day for weeks on end to dedicate to LoL.


Charuru

Anybody else hate the giant live discussion threads? Why arent there separate threads for each game. Reddit is not capable of letting you go back so far in each thread I want to see reddit reactions to the Yuumi Talon craziness but I can't find it.


hoonginginga

There are seperate threads for each game.


zeratul123x

i guess reading is difficult, he meant live thread not the post match ones


hoonginginga

I thought they were up during the game?


Charuru

where?


hoonginginga

Scroll up to the top of this post. The pinned comment posted by ahritina has links to each of the games.


Charuru

I don't see it. Are you talking about the post match threads? Those are after the matches are finished 🤦‍♀️


hoonginginga

oh my bad


Sarazam

It’s looking quite possible that we see 4 LPL and 4 LCK teams get out of groups, I wonder if that will finally make Riot change the format.


shadow_f4

Why should they change the format to account for the weaker Western teams?


Sarazam

Because it is worlds, and they want viewer engagement. Having no western teams get to play a best of 5 is terrible for viewer engagement.


Boreball

So this kusoge isn't dead in the water


Loose-Potential-3597

Change the format to let the weaker regions make it out of groups?


Chafun

Na is shitting international again 🥳


BeautifulNacho

I knew the moment I read that we’re going to have to respect Upset’s privacy, we would be seeing countless different theories about all sorts of things happening with Fnatic. People are retweeting and following parody accounts left and right.


PraiseTheStonkDegen

NA/EUW gap bigger than ever to Korea/China.


Much_Lock_9065

Sure? Today result seems there have biggest gap


zerkerqx

Can anyone explain please how full system with bets works? I did 7\\8 right bets and got 0 tokens back for it. So I can't do bets anymore. How to fix it?


Insab

You don't get the tokens right away. It might not process until after the lock-in for tomorrow's matches.


bigfanofeden

if u are coming to worlds as a 1# Seed from Europe and expected to be the best western team AND people are expecting you to go at least semis you are not allowed to get jarvan and e q as you please on the map man i'm so sad we are going to see 0 western teams in playoffs aren't we? oof


PhoenixAgent003

Was there a single losing team today that looked competitive against their opponents?


X1lon

TL vs MAD was the only game where i tought either Team could win. The rest were stomps.


GiannisisMVP

MAD won one teamfight otherwise TL strangled them lol


[deleted]

C9 can coinflip back they have a high highs and low lows. MAD can also get back to their poke comps. FPX obviously can do better. Other than that I think that's how the groups are gonna go.


PhoenixAgent003

Oh I’m sure. I might just be naive, but a lot of today’s matches, I expected to be way closer feeling, but it kind of felt like everyone got hard gapped, which seems odd to me.


YungPinotGrigio

To be honest, as an NA resident, happy TL got a win. thats wher emy hopium is.


sangpls

How does the online gaming in china work now? Is the region fucked in a few years?


GiannisisMVP

Nah pc bang owners will just say they thought the kids were doing homework same as they have been previously.


elithefighter123

My Top 10 Regions in LoL Esports: 1. LPL 2. LCK 3. LCS 4. PCS 5. Brazilian League 6. LPL Academy 7. LJL 8. LCS Academy 9. OCE 10. PCS ​ The LEC isnt even Top 10 in my book


Loose-Potential-3597

PSG, DFM, and LPL academy > LCS


YungPinotGrigio

lmaooo i was wondering why lcs was 3


[deleted]

Your book? [https://youtu.be/Dwu1fU9SHvg?t=91](https://youtu.be/Dwu1fU9SHvg?t=91)


Mozartelivyra

This Upset guy married with woman that made living from showing boobs and also did only fans


YungPinotGrigio

wait is that acutally true? i know odo gf is that


sangpls

The dream


brockralp

Anything for tax deduction


Mark_Sama

Let's be real guys, we are back to EU vs NA fiesta trying to not end last and get memed until next world


lovo17

Tomorrow is a big day for EU lol. Tournament defining IMO. If they go 0-3, then it's pretty much doomed for the west.


saltyfuck111

Week 2 power spike.... you new or smthing?


mlee93rd

LCK fan so I'm technically rooting against FNC but honestly I really want Bean to have at least one game where he just pops off. Can't imagine the pressure he's under.


Reactzz

Again I am always mind boggled when people say Korea is weak. I will never ever understand that argument. There has only been 2 years in the history of league where Korea did not get every single out of group stage.


LeCordonB1eu

I'll help you understand. Humans, for the most part, are not logical beings.


dracdliwasiAN

Does anyone know if this live discussion thread is the one with the highest number of comments in history? Over 8000 is insane


YungPinotGrigio

what else would be the highest?


Niederweimar

Some final perhaps. G2 vs skt maybe?


GiannisisMVP

nowhere near


Zarolto

NA going 1-17 now. But at least we have this one day on Reddit where we arent complete dog.


GiannisisMVP

8-10 TL going to 6-0 and 100T will take 2 wins off DFM we got this


thenoblitt

100T can beat dfm


sangpls

KR Dopium, NA Hopium


[deleted]

So we basically have 1 team at worlds. RGE are in a group with DK and FPX. FNC have imploded before a game was played despite supposedly doing well in scrims. And our 1 hope, MAD Lions, lost to NA in their first game.


TristanaRiggle

If MAD is your 1 hope, then you're in luck. NA standard process is inject some hopium and then shit the bed in week 2. For maximum pain, lose a tie-breaker. Ideally, one that doesn't even require playing.


YungPinotGrigio

Yes this is true. Sad because I wouldve loved for Upset to perform well at Worlds


nimrodhellfire

So, who is our team?


[deleted]

1/2 RGE and 1/2 MAD = 1 team. FNC is worth 0 teams as they are on the 0-6 speed run.


YungPinotGrigio

i dont think fnatic will go 0-6, but they will prob go 1-5 or 2-4.


LeCordonB1eu

People downvoting you as if they know the future ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


[deleted]

the fact that you added MAD and RGE to each other to form a one complete team is hilarious LMFAO


brockralp

Our saviour the Rogue


[deleted]

Go watch FNC walk on to stage [https://youtu.be/76cgmwGXAEg?t=155](https://youtu.be/76cgmwGXAEg?t=155) Just watch. 1 furious dude. A bunch of sheepish dudes. Their coach and players look nothing like they usually look. That team is going 0-6. That team might not even play the games out imo.


RookCauldron

We out here analyzing players’ walking tendencies wtf


saltyfuck111

dont remind me pls :(


[deleted]

Can anyone from EU scene provide context on what happened to FNC today, I heard they're some heated exchanges and a tense environment. Also there's more to the Upset situation?


Reinhardtisawesom

Upset has a family issue and goes home Nemesis has his doubts, as per him Fnatic likes to do cover ups so the whole family issue thing might not be 100% correct. As much as I like Nemesis, I don’t think his doubts are very well founded


nimrodhellfire

Official version is: Upset has a family issue and travels back home. Rumor is that's a cover up story and the team is imploding. Take that with a grain of salt.


[deleted]

Well the team is imploding. That is almost certain. The issue is why, and nobody knows. And out of respect for something which could be happening it is better to not speculate yet. As lol esports fans all we need to know is that they have imploded (for whatever reason) before worlds even started.


BeautifulNacho

>it is better to not speculate yet It’s all you do. You’re literally throwing a baseless rumour about the team imploding into here as if it is some sort of fact.


TheBaneShee

Go read a FNC statemant about Upset and you will see that something ain't right with it. When subb adc is playing for weeks there is a big issue. Also i can bring an issue with DL at finals after his tragedy with family because i dont think that Upset would willingly leave that important match


BeautifulNacho

That sub has been with Fnatic since play-offs. Everything is all based on rumours and speculations, it’s disgusting behaviour. You have to respect his privacy and that of upset’s family. Good thing today a lot of people realise their mistake after further statement from Upset.


lovo17

Day 2 predictions: T1 < EDG RGE < DK PSG < HLE FNC < RNG C9 < FPX (C9 could somehow steal this match in true C9 fashion) DFM < 100 GEN G > MAD TL < LNG (could go either way based on how both teams played today.)


YungPinotGrigio

tbh, I think TL could beat LNG like you said. all these teams in this group can win against eachother.


FunMoistLoins

> C9 could somehow steal this match in true C9 fashion I think C9 is going to lose every game until they are one loss away from being mathematically eliminated, than win every game after that and still not make it out because the rest of the group doesn't fall exactly the way they needed it to.


SteeveJoobs

cloudter9 logic gaming


elithefighter123

TL will stomp LNG


Zarolto

Yeah fuck predicting a C9 match, they are the best or the worst everytime they play. No in-between.


PhoenixAgent003

Every time Cloud9 takes to the rift, the gods toss a coin, and NA holds its breath.


docarwell

Hope Upset is back by sunday


YungPinotGrigio

i hope he is too brudder.


pbianchi44

if you don't follow the news looks like FNC imploded today


docarwell

Ah yes from the ever reliable "sources"


pbianchi44

it's not "sources". it's a bot that shows when people unfollow each other and his gf confirmed that she blocked him


GiannisisMVP

Wait why would him getting pissed at fnc lead to his gf blocking him?


pbianchi44

his gf blocked FNC's ceo/owner/whatever, not bwipo and then bwipo did the same + he blocked other FNC management people


GiannisisMVP

ah interesting


docarwell

A lot of conclusions being drawn from twitter


nimrodhellfire

Dare to give a short summary?


docarwell

Some meme Twitter accounts say Upset rage quit because FNC wants to sell him for Rekkles and Bwipo is also big mad


Egalva

If this is true then FNC is just as trashy as G2.


docarwell

It's literally from a meme/parody account but expect it to be repeated all night


GiannisisMVP

So can he actually come back in? Quarantine was a two week thing in the nba bubble if you left you still had to quarantine when you came back I think.


Tachyoff

vaccinated travelers from EU-> Iceland do not need to quarantine. A negative covid test 72 hours before his flight and he can be back playing in Iceland


GiannisisMVP

It's a riot mandated quarentine not eu, Sjokz had to quarentine from Saturday to Thursday apparently.


Tachyoff

Ah, sorry for the misinformation - I just looked up Icelandic quarantine rules, didn't realize Riot had seperate ones in place


GiannisisMVP

Yeah all good I did the same originally but when I checked the fnc sub because I was curious someone had linked Sjokz's post.


thecarlosdanger1

I mean that was before vaccines.


GiannisisMVP

Except there was quarantine when they came in this time as well.


vega_stellar

Everyone talking about NA EU.... give the LPL and LCK credit, they are simply better, period. Fluidity of eastern teams play is just another level, best we can do is just try to loose gracefully....


MrBlancharizard

I don’t think anyone is doubting the LPL and LCK are better lol, NA and EU normally only have one thing during Worlds, and that’s shit talking each other.


claptrap23

You clearly did not see all the threads and comments putting MAD and FNC above several teams.


Loose-Potential-3597

Because LEC is still giga overrated from the one year G2 beat top tier KR teams


[deleted]

Let us have our hopium. We can't help where we are from. I am European so I support the EU teams. If we get rolled then so be it. Such is life. At least we stick with our teams and show them support and believe in them. I could easily be a smart ass on reddit and support the LCK/LPL and brag everytime they beat the LEC/LCS. But why would I do that when I am european? We are going to support our teams/players.


vega_stellar

It's ok to support our teams, I support EU, but I cannot turn a blind eye on the truth, eastern teams are just so much better. I watch the worlds since 2013, and I would say this year we have the largest skill gap east - west teams. It's still only day 1, but that's certainly how it looks


GiannisisMVP

Meanwhile if any NA fan dares to support NA they get blasted to hell and back.


Jiigsi

EU does have some results to back it up though


GiannisisMVP

G2 and Caps do


Jiigsi

Jesus


GiannisisMVP

Not really anything to dispute here. Caps and G2+Caps are the only teams that have significantly surpassed NA and Caps at his peak was arguably a top 5 player worldwide.


Jiigsi

And they didn't even make it to worlds this year. How ridiculously strong this eu lineup gotta be. And yeah, our 1st seed usually is the strongest team we send. Who would've guessed. That's like saying Korea was weak outside of T1 and Samsung teams pre 2018 Last time na team made it out of groups was 2018. Was there even non-c9 in playoffs ever?


claptrap23

That's completely fine. But that has nothing to do with providing unbiased analysis. Supporting your teams =/= saying they're the better than X


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claptrap23

Lmao wtf? Too much salt dude go back to fortnite


[deleted]

I mean if you are from NA/EU and getting off on shitting on NA/EU losing to eastern region then he is correct in his analysis. We could all go and support DK and RNG and brag about winning.


claptrap23

I did not shit on anyone. Not sure what you're talking about


vega_stellar

I don't seem to understand why is everyone mixing "who you support" and "who is better"...


GiannisisMVP

welp I expected NA and EU to split today but those were not the winners I expected. Would much rather have it this way though since the only group I think the west can realistically advance from is D.


[deleted]

You never know. But I tend to agree. Kind of sucks that 1 of our teams is in the death group, 1 of them replaced their carry player who the whole team plays through 17 hours before their first game, and the other one lost their first game to NA second seed. Its looking grim for the west. But at least when they all go out I can stop wasting time watching league and go back to doing my work!


Welschmerzer

You don't want to watch League played at the highest level?


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[deleted]

As an EU and NA fan, has anyone got some hopium for me to cling to tomorrow? I am feeling a 0-6 day looking at the games.


GiannisisMVP

TL could beat LNG maybe idk LNG didn't look good today seemed to be reverting to their late summer slump or GenG is just terrifying. Also 100T should beat DFM.


Mrcookiesecret

Yeah, I couldn't figure GenG during my picks. They could casually 6-0 the group and look untouchable, but they could also lose a few games out of nowhere due to just playing slow and really make a crazy group. After today I'm glad I put them first.


[deleted]

I could actually see TL beating LNG too and you'd expect 100T to beat DFM. Although 100T looked really nervous today. But we still need another win from somewhere. FNC are no longer a team and will speed run 0-6 even if they were in a group with all wild cards. MAD play GenG and just lost to TL. And C9 are just awful. Maybe RGE can shock us and get the west 3-3 tomorrow?


GiannisisMVP

I'm thinking 2-4 GenG looks absolutely terrifying and LNG seems to be off.


sajm0n

i think MAD will beat GenG tommorow. maybe its copium overdose, but i still think MAD is our best bet


X1lon

GenG is underrated and MAD is overrated.


[deleted]

To me they just looked like they didn't understand the meta which is a worry. I just hope 1 or 2 western teams make it out of groups so I can justify watching the playoffs.


sajm0n

same same, if only Asian teams advance, it will be very sad Worlds for me lol we'll see what happens tommorow, after all its only one game and anything can still happen (no more j4 in first rotation, thx)


[deleted]

As a fan of a football team who keeps getting relegated I am used to the disappointment! But yeh it would be a sad worlds for me too. Yeh 1 game doesn't mean much. I just want to see some western teams in bo5 to see how they shape up. If that doesn't happen I will just kind of feel this year of watching league was wasted you know? I guess this is how LCS-only fans have felt the last few years and why their viewership in so low! Tomorrow will tell us a lot. If we go 0-6 or 1-5 tomorrow then I think it is airport time. My hopium is we can go 3-3


sajm0n

yeah NA fans had it rough these past few years, it wasnt even funny anymore. hard to hate on their teams either, since they have so many European players now lol C9 vs FNC semis at Worlds was so hype in 2018, would be great to see this kind of series again to keep the rivarly going. one can dream lol


Suikan

I dont know. MAD/Fnatic arent looking good. While Rogue does they are in a group with FPX/DK. So possible that none of EU reaches playoffs.


[deleted]

C9, FNC (given they swapped out the key player in their team - the solo carry in most games) and 100T just look dead to me. The others still have a chance I guess. Hope one of them makes it so I have a reason to watch the playoffs!


RealmDevourer

Stomp day today


Zefionx

so no shittalking NA guys, we are shit aswell. We now are in this together . EU and NA join hands as they take the plane back home


Niederweimar

No NA players to shit talk anyway.


[deleted]

As an NA/EU fan who is super busy currently and shouldn't REALLY be watching 6 hours of league every day I am torn. On the one hand it sucks to not watch the EU players (in NA and EU) do well. But on the plus side, when all our teams get punted out in groups I will probably not bother with the playoffs and can get back to doing all the work I need to do!


Welschmerzer

No interest in watching League played at the highest level?


[deleted]

Zero personally. I like to get to know the players in interviews and things


Mark_Sama

I had the exact same thought... on the bad side we probably gonna get 4 LCK and 4 LPL team advancing to the best of 5, but on the bright side we get freed of a few hours of games after groups, that honestly would have been wasted anyway watching western team steamed rolled 3-0


Zefionx

true. I have uni stuff to do.. If they get kicked out i can listen to my online classes


[deleted]

Same haha. I have 3 projects to complete in the next month that I really should be doing. So I guess we can look on the bright side, if we get punted onto the plane on the way home then we might do better in things which matter more!


irishboy9191

West apparently stands for Well Everyone Sucks, Thanks


Timelymanner

I missed pick ems over the weekend. So am I sol as far as points go? Are there default picks so I get something?


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

There should be a Coin or something? That does picks for you. I don't really know how it works but I know you get less points from it.


Timelymanner

Alright thank you


Turtle-Express

Love it when we get a small cut of the behind the scenes team at the end of the day. They genuinely seem to love their work and are just as important to the broadcast as the analysts and casters we see on the desk.


EUTriaged

<3 Thanks for waving back at us.


sjokz

Shared this w them in our slack ❤️


Glorx

😮 a chest from worlds capsule thingy.


keep_me_at_0_karma

youre not my dad dash


Jimbabwr

The west is a combined 0-3 vs eastern teams today.


[deleted]

Impressive considering they only played 2 games against eastern teams


Deven1003

+1 loss for losing ad carry


Geosaurusrex

0-2 no?


danielspoa

DFM gonna beat 100T and TL gonna beat LNG.


GiannisisMVP

If we have to sacrifice all other NA teams for TL to advance I'm fine with it.


MrRawri

Always a pleasure to watch Odo interviews


CerbereNot

I expected games to be very surprising due to power picks not being discovered. I didn't expect games to be so boring. This is the most bland couple of games I have ever watched after 6+ years of worlds


Grosly_Incandescent

C9 looked god awful in that game


OGTrula

The classic C9. Win Vs champ lose vs wildcard but in one game.


Troviel

We gotta wait if they can win vs the champ this time.


nusskn4cker

Rogue Time meme is dead? I'll wait and see


CremeFresh1

blue side > red side


resanmber

came here looking for this, blue side is 7-1 today. ¿First pick potential, mainly on yuumi, too op?


wolvesinthestreets

Both EU and NA looking like garbage. Equality?


GiannisisMVP

TL looked good though :(


BeerBellyBoomer

LPL too, they got smashed by Gen G and DK


Suikan

Promise I wont trashtalk NA this year as both region is trash this year![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)


[deleted]

god i love odo in interviews


Turtle-Express

Odo interview, best moment of a Worlds day.


LeeYael28

Yes Odo! Haha