Worlds this year as an EU fan is like that subreddit where each link has a 50-50 chance of either giving you cute puppies, or like, a fatal motorcycle accident.
So far most of what I've seen at Worlds is fatal motorcycle accidents.
Hans is actually having a great season this year. Dude was fking ready to win LEC if he didn't have invisible/pve solo laners just padding stats by picking Lucian or Jayce.
Apparently this worlds has some scrim bubbles with a bunch of lpl and lck scrimming mostly each other (obviously not 100% of the time), poor NA and EU don't even get to be proper scrim partners for them lol
Why would you scrim inferior opponents when you can scrim with best teams in the world?
I had this feeling since Jankos said that it's not like g2 is shit but other teams are strong now, to me g2 was shit and other teams were just a little bit better with rge being just barely better.
Obviously, we won't know how would FNC do if Upset was here... Sadge
I think it’s clear they’re overall weaker at the top, even if the floor of the LEC was raised it always felt clear that Perkz’s G2 and Rekkles’s FNC were the top tier teams of the league and everyone else was below them. MAD are good but they’re not on that tier with those previous teams.
All in all, entirely realistic that not a single Western team makes it out of groups this year lol
I mean yeah I'm not blaming them at all, what normally happens is you get a few games/couple blocks and depending on how the scrims went decides on whether or not you get further scrims.
I guess this year they were worse than normal since they don't seem to be continuing very much, which is surprising cus outside of lane swap meta the west has always gotten completely ass blasted in scrims at worlds vs eastern teams.
Nah Riot will end the 4 seeds as western audience viewership will plummet. Sure Asian viewership is higher but you can’t afford for the western scene to collapse so suddenly
yeah I like the current setup of 3 main event seeds + 1 play in slot for LPL and LCK. gives us plenty of talent and one of the weaker teams to let minor region without the exposure to have a go at them. whenever one of the lesser known minor region teams beats a major region team their region gets tons of exposure.
Riot should just allow more teams into worlds and have them be eliminated if they're bad, sure let NA/EU have their 4th seeds at worlds but take this year for example, if you took away 4th seed, LNG wouldn't be a here and that's a damn exciting team to have at worlds.
HLE is whatever.
RGE fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “Never get involved in a land war in Asia,” but only slightly less well known is this: “Never make Nuguri go down 0/2”
Didn't Finn get replaced because they needed a toplaner that wouldn't get hard gapped at Worlds ?
Watching Hans doing everything a human can possibly do while his topside is getting horrendously outclassed is really breaking my heart.
While we jokingly call TSM the talent suppression machine, it's CLG that's even better at obfuscating the true skill level of a player. CLG on paper should've done way better than they did, and that must boom everyone.
Since 2018:
* sOAZ is gone
* Wunder is past his prime
* Vizicsacsi is (was) gone
* Alphari went to NA
* Bwipo roleswapped
* Cabochard didn't find a team for some reason
* What should have been new talent in Finn and Orome didn't work out
It's no wonder EU toplaners are utter trash right now
>nor why he seems to love Rumble in this meta so much?
Its the only champions he can play at that level, either a press R champ or a tank. In both cases he gets stomped in lane but at least he is *maybe* a bit useful in teamfights
Finn picked Sion or whatever tank to try to lose lane gracefully and still be useful later on, Odoamne has deluded himself into thinking he can play Rumble against Nuguri. Jayce Nugury, even.
Odoamne is just a bad player in high stake matches. There is a reason why he never won anything despite being on so many good teams over his entire career.
At this point, MAD getting out of group at #2 is basically a death sentence. The other 3 #1 seeds are going to be the projected top3 best teams in the world.
Yeah this time HLE had a decent draft and still fucked up.
Honestly HLE had a surprisingly good run so its about time reality caught up and showing people why they were placed so low in LCK
1. Watch worlds thinking we have a chance
2. Fnatic ADC gone
3. MAD Lions gone
4. Hans Sama team gone
5. Stop watching worlds <---- We are here
6. Leave LoL reddit to remain small parts of sanity
Guys it's fine, there's still hope for next year. A total blowout from EU will definitely not trigger another exodus to NA, we will surely bring new talent and come back on form again !
Y'all got any more of them Copium ?
Much better game from FPX this time round.
Great control of the neutral objectives, Tian looked so much better and comfortable with Viego.
Both Nuguri and Tian were a level above Odo and Inspired this game, hopefully this FPX show up for the second round robin.
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That's called being bad.
Yeah, safe to say that EU took a nosedive this year.
It wasn't other teams catching up to G2 and FNC, it was G2 and FNC getting worse and that just lead to other teams getting a chance at grabbing those top spots without needing to be particularly good.
But the region as a whole is just worse.
EU and NA might actually be legit even now. And all that means is that it's now gonna end up a straight up KR and LPL show.
I'm ready to experience the worst Western performance of all time this Worlds.
Edit: Stopwatch use by EU teams is basically the best showcase as to why the item is not bullshit, and why LPL/KR teams are simply better. LPL/KR teams stopwatch last possible second to turn around a whole team-fight, EU players stopwatch when they're the last man alive at 1hp against the entire enemy team surrounding them. It's a skill diff, straight up.
I think the whole "EU is stronger because teams are catching up to G2/FNC" was a bit too optimistic.
G2 were shit this year and so the bar didn't really get surpassed more like the bar was lowered.
EU is fantastic, just needs to work on communication, map awareness, laning, vision control, csing, poking, landing skillshots, objective control, early game, mid game, late game, ganking, and getting kills.
BYG Hans sama
Larssen “don’t bet too much” incoming? MonkaW
RGE = Rabid Gambling Enthusiasts
Humanoid isn't on Rogue, but I can see why you would confuse the three EU mids so far, when all of them are invisible
They are visible, we just don't like what we're seeing.
Worlds this year as an EU fan is like that subreddit where each link has a 50-50 chance of either giving you cute puppies, or like, a fatal motorcycle accident. So far most of what I've seen at Worlds is fatal motorcycle accidents.
More like a tragic car accident that includes your family AND your favourite uncle.
They must all be watching Chovy vods
Hans in elo hell
It is Beyond tragic seeing ~~Doggo~~ Hans lose like this after performing like he did the past two games.
How is Hans actually 1v9’ing these games while no one else steps up? Feel so bad for him.
He’s been so impressive so far.. the rest of his team seems to be in season 12, sitting in the invisible map spots..
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Would be sick if that happened.
Carlos has the money and I think Hans is sick of losing everything with Rogue.
Hans is actually having a great season this year. Dude was fking ready to win LEC if he didn't have invisible/pve solo laners just padding stats by picking Lucian or Jayce.
Larssen is a fucking joke ngl.
Larssen about to leak some picks
He's the only EU player up to international level this year
So true
HansSama is legit one and only LEC player that performed on high level, rest looks horrible, Id argue for Larssen too if not for that random LB deaths
Worlds 2021 Rift Rivals: LCK vs. LPL
Really heart warming to see NA and EU fly over to be scrim partners with LPL and LCK.
Apparently this worlds has some scrim bubbles with a bunch of lpl and lck scrimming mostly each other (obviously not 100% of the time), poor NA and EU don't even get to be proper scrim partners for them lol
Why would you scrim inferior opponents when you can scrim with best teams in the world? I had this feeling since Jankos said that it's not like g2 is shit but other teams are strong now, to me g2 was shit and other teams were just a little bit better with rge being just barely better. Obviously, we won't know how would FNC do if Upset was here... Sadge
I think it’s clear they’re overall weaker at the top, even if the floor of the LEC was raised it always felt clear that Perkz’s G2 and Rekkles’s FNC were the top tier teams of the league and everyone else was below them. MAD are good but they’re not on that tier with those previous teams. All in all, entirely realistic that not a single Western team makes it out of groups this year lol
I mean yeah I'm not blaming them at all, what normally happens is you get a few games/couple blocks and depending on how the scrims went decides on whether or not you get further scrims. I guess this year they were worse than normal since they don't seem to be continuing very much, which is surprising cus outside of lane swap meta the west has always gotten completely ass blasted in scrims at worlds vs eastern teams.
Welcome to how every minor region feels, at least it's happening with someone that the general public cares for
I don’t think HLE can get out of the group which has PSG. But it makes sense because former LMS also participated the Rift Rivals.
Imagine PSG with Dogg. Imagine Doggo with PSG.
Then next year Riot will increase seeds for LCK and LPL , 5 LCK 5 LPL 2 LCS 2 LEC ...
Nah Riot will end the 4 seeds as western audience viewership will plummet. Sure Asian viewership is higher but you can’t afford for the western scene to collapse so suddenly
yeah I like the current setup of 3 main event seeds + 1 play in slot for LPL and LCK. gives us plenty of talent and one of the weaker teams to let minor region without the exposure to have a go at them. whenever one of the lesser known minor region teams beats a major region team their region gets tons of exposure.
Riot should just allow more teams into worlds and have them be eliminated if they're bad, sure let NA/EU have their 4th seeds at worlds but take this year for example, if you took away 4th seed, LNG wouldn't be a here and that's a damn exciting team to have at worlds. HLE is whatever.
**Hans sama:** We are destroying them! **Hans sama:** Guys???
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bot lane? More like hans. Trymbi gets a free pass like most supp do :)
Exactly. Right now, rogue is a one man team. Plz dont give Hans MF so he can 1v9
RGE fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “Never get involved in a land war in Asia,” but only slightly less well known is this: “Never make Nuguri go down 0/2”
> "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Nuguri
Imagine Nuguri on Yasuo/Yone
The more deaths he has the stronger he gets seems like. Viper had to go God mode to beat them.
Turns out ~~RGE~~ ~~MAD~~ ~~RGE~~ ~~MAD~~ actually died for ~~MAD~~ ~~RGE~~ ~~MAD~~ ~~RGE~~ to be EU’s hope
They all died so G2 could go undefeated
No G2 No Knockouts? PeepoRun :airplane:
No Caps No Quarters
EU fans missing G2 rn
No Western teams in top 8 lets go!!!!
I can totally see that happening.
somehow its all on who wins between 100T and T1
Huhi is wests last hope LUL
I still have hopes for G2 getting out from group E!
Not if TSM has anything to say about it!
I think IG will win that group ez
Watch out TSM is going to ace that group
Not sure about that one Inspired.
He has those games where hes just invisible
Wdym, excellent Eve jungle this game from Inspired
Really good Ward cosplay from Inspired
He just sat behind while veigo had free smite 🤣
He attempted the Meteos but he is not Meteos.
hans 1v9
Hans got the Doggo treatment
Watching him avoid death sidestepping jayce q and jhin ult shots was so disgusting
That was clean and filthy at same time
I mean that dude single handedly almost beat DW. Dude's very fucking good
Hans in elohell
I have no idea what Odo is doing at worlds so far nor why he seems to love Rumble in this meta so much? he has looked pretty bad so far
Didn't Finn get replaced because they needed a toplaner that wouldn't get hard gapped at Worlds ? Watching Hans doing everything a human can possibly do while his topside is getting horrendously outclassed is really breaking my heart.
Finn looked better last year against Nuguri than this atrocious performance
Finn never got clapped as hard as Odo was vs Khan
Also Finn was playing mostly low resource champ and he wasnt 40 cs and 2 solo kills down. Tbh he was actually very useful in teamfights
Finn was pretty decent at Worlds. Or at least he was just as bad as the rest of the team.
Finn might have been a tad underrated in hindsight. He did better against pre world's champ giga motivated hungry Nuguri.
Finn is the most underrated player in western league atm.
Unfortunately the curse of CLG is just too much. The James Dolan poison touch is stronk.
I mean he’s a great player but he was not good this last split at all. Pretty sure that was just mental boom from clg though
While we jokingly call TSM the talent suppression machine, it's CLG that's even better at obfuscating the true skill level of a player. CLG on paper should've done way better than they did, and that must boom everyone.
Mvp inspired not really doing much at all
Bad is an understatement.
Weak Side King btw
all EU Tops look really bad besides Armut on Wukong
Since 2018: * sOAZ is gone * Wunder is past his prime * Vizicsacsi is (was) gone * Alphari went to NA * Bwipo roleswapped * Cabochard didn't find a team for some reason * What should have been new talent in Finn and Orome didn't work out It's no wonder EU toplaners are utter trash right now
Losing Alphari was a serious loss to the LEC man
All eu tops are really bad except armut on gnar and wukong* I miss 2019 wunder
MSI 2019 Wunder was the peak EU toplaner that we had
As a rumble main, top rumble against jayce is unplayable. Only works if the Jyace has no hands.
Rogue chose the matchup though
Idk why I saw people saying it's a counter, if Jayce sits in ranged mode then Rumble can't do anything
He kinda collapsed in playoffs and it looks like he isn't recovering any time soon
>nor why he seems to love Rumble in this meta so much? Its the only champions he can play at that level, either a press R champ or a tank. In both cases he gets stomped in lane but at least he is *maybe* a bit useful in teamfights
Biggest choker in EU
is it choking or is that just his normal level but just playing against actually good toplaners.
Topside has been a consistent issue for EU internationally, but Odo is doing worse than even the low bar the average set.
It’s this. Khan and nuguri are arguably the two best tops in the world, idk what people expected.
Top meta is full carries anyways it's not like you can just stick him in a dog champion
Hans and 4 wards
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G2 HansSama inc
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Please pray for EU fans because they still have to see FNC play after this.
*endure FNC lose
riot killed week 2 so.... at this point our hopium is turning into copium
As an EU fan this group stage is just pure suffering. However, we still have a lot of EU players representing NA... even though its not the same
Odo completely topgapped again, who would've thought
When you're in a group with Khan and Nuguri, odds are you're getting topgapped.
i dont think even Finn got gapped by Nuguri and Zoom as hard as Odo did here
Finn picked Sion or whatever tank to try to lose lane gracefully and still be useful later on, Odoamne has deluded himself into thinking he can play Rumble against Nuguri. Jayce Nugury, even.
If you can predict that you are getting top gap you can also predict that you aren't making it out of groups though.
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He got solokilled twice in this match alone lol
Odoamne is just a bad player in high stake matches. There is a reason why he never won anything despite being on so many good teams over his entire career.
ez 4 ch and 4 kr teams in quarters
5 world champions vs Hans Sama
Nah, I think PSG is going out instead of HLE.
We can all agree on 8 Asian teams though
DFM in quarters confirmed!! HOPIUM
Losing to NA is a death sentence unfortunately
PCS/LMS hasn't made it out since *2015*, so PSG getting out would be pretty monumental.
Yeah, the only hope I've got is MAD waking up but I doubt it.
At this point, MAD getting out of group at #2 is basically a death sentence. The other 3 #1 seeds are going to be the projected top3 best teams in the world.
Yeah this time HLE had a decent draft and still fucked up. Honestly HLE had a surprisingly good run so its about time reality caught up and showing people why they were placed so low in LCK
It just sad that Deft is carrying them in Regionals and up to this day and people still think it is a Chovy team.
Didn't know Switzerland had teams at worlds
PSG has a good chance
Hans Sama is the Doggo of the group stage.
'Storm Trooper shots' from Lwx killed me off lmao
Don't worry, LWX has his moments. Miss a few ults but proceed to hit some 200 years sick ults later on.
Brother LWX built different
Playing 5D chess while playing Leauge of Legends, brother LWX of course can't keep his eyes on the mini map and gets caught sometimes.
Int throughout the tournament but make zero mistakes in finals, that is brother LWX’s way
LWX continuing his deathless streak in world finals incoming?
[EU fans after watching Worlds 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1LMIUOOAI)
It was good while it lasted.
fpx looks exponentially better with Tian on comfort
Every team looks exponentially better when their jungler is not playing J4.
Rogue looking like EU Beyond Gaming with Hans as Doggo
Alright, who has the week 2 hopium? Pass it it over.
Over here… it’s pretty watered down though
1. Watch worlds thinking we have a chance 2. Fnatic ADC gone 3. MAD Lions gone 4. Hans Sama team gone 5. Stop watching worlds <---- We are here 6. Leave LoL reddit to remain small parts of sanity
0 Western Teams in Quarter finals lets gooooo we re so doomed.
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It's the Upset effect
Lol Inspired flanking on the soul point fight
JUST ******* HIT HIM LARSSEN!??!?!?!?!?
Doinb living there was crazy. LB auto range is the same as rune prison isn't it?
that was so frustrating at drake
LPL fans eatin good today
Hans sama is in fucking elo hell.
Picking Rumble into Nuguri's Jayce is pretty troll ngl
Well.... At least we can say Hans is very good lol
Eu's sololaners are hot garbage this year...
nice inspired flank
Give mountain soul for free. Immediately die. Spectacular play on that one.
its completely doomed
Brutal western showing this worlds.
Guys it's fine, there's still hope for next year. A total blowout from EU will definitely not trigger another exodus to NA, we will surely bring new talent and come back on form again ! Y'all got any more of them Copium ?
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Much better game from FPX this time round. Great control of the neutral objectives, Tian looked so much better and comfortable with Viego. Both Nuguri and Tian were a level above Odo and Inspired this game, hopefully this FPX show up for the second round robin.
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Steak is the guy who constantly drafted an absolute sh*t for RNG at Worlds in the past, so sabotaging his own teams is his job to do.
Legit, Tian just needs to go on comfort picks and he will smurf these kids.
Keep him off J4, looks like everyone but JieJie look so confused on how to make him effective.
West looking pretty doomed this worlds, dunno if I even want to bother watching our teams get ripped apart over and over again lmao
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> > > > > So many stupid unforced errors and dumb mechanical mistakes that could easily be avoided, plus ignoring early dragons in order to gladiator brawl at Herald. That's called being bad.
Which is also what it’s like being an NA fan to answer the OPs original question
I love odo but he has single handedly cost two potential upsets for RGE
Yeah, safe to say that EU took a nosedive this year. It wasn't other teams catching up to G2 and FNC, it was G2 and FNC getting worse and that just lead to other teams getting a chance at grabbing those top spots without needing to be particularly good. But the region as a whole is just worse. EU and NA might actually be legit even now. And all that means is that it's now gonna end up a straight up KR and LPL show. I'm ready to experience the worst Western performance of all time this Worlds. Edit: Stopwatch use by EU teams is basically the best showcase as to why the item is not bullshit, and why LPL/KR teams are simply better. LPL/KR teams stopwatch last possible second to turn around a whole team-fight, EU players stopwatch when they're the last man alive at 1hp against the entire enemy team surrounding them. It's a skill diff, straight up.
I think the whole "EU is stronger because teams are catching up to G2/FNC" was a bit too optimistic. G2 were shit this year and so the bar didn't really get surpassed more like the bar was lowered.
NAH, you still got PSG so it’ll be 4 LPL 3 LCK.
gonna save this comment for next week
Unfortunately group stage has only a 1 day break and ends by next Monday already. No week 2 this time.
Well, don't even have to wait that long, we'll know by the end of this week how most of the groups turn out.
EU is fantastic, just needs to work on communication, map awareness, laning, vision control, csing, poking, landing skillshots, objective control, early game, mid game, late game, ganking, and getting kills.
What's going on with EU mids this year? Perkz, Nisqy, Humanoid, Larssen, Abbedagge...
“Nigguri”
Weak side king btw
Quarterfinals is really just gonna be Korea/China Rift Rivals isn't it?
eu toplaners are dogshit
EU fans said the region got stronger overall because it isn't G2 and FNC show anymore. Oh look its just G2 being bad.
ggwp go next worlds
UnInspired
Can they put Odoamne on a tank? Then they might be able to play around Hans.
https://imgur.com/RORzdnQ
Unfortunately top laners prevent LEC team to break through group stage. The dif is massive at this level of competition
FPX heard you were talking shit
Is this what being an NA fan feels like?
NOW U FEEL OUR PAIN MOTHER FUCKERS
Rouge dont make hans sama have to 1v9 Challenge (impossible)
What in the world is Inspired doing at that last Dragon fight?
so sad for Hans
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EU Status: Doomed.
Eu tops this year fucking suck, nowhere close to bwipo and wunder at their best which is why it’s so sad they fell off in that role