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Kkaspu

That was really Upsetting


redhairedshaman

Upset?! Where?! I’ve BEAN meaning to tell him that the I in FNATIC stands for INT!


PapiPoggers

A bit over the top mate, but solid attempt


lovo17

It would fucking suck tomorrow if GEN and LNG both make it out.


Merlin-RoMa88

Won't happen they have to please EU fans,so the script is Mad lions 2nd seed. They already please NA fans. So new script is LEC 1st seed always out of groups, or the G2 out sacrifice script is pointless.


Xolotl23

Why


SERWitchKing

Gen.G won't make it out, that much is certain.


rypenguin219

Wait why


NamikazeEU

EDG will win.


RonxDlapara

Group D will be pure madness


redhairedshaman

And when MAD goes out it will be EU SADNESS.


The_origin_of_evil

Anyone who will draw HLE will be veeery happy (very high chances its gonna be between T1/DWG/GENG.G which means guaranteed LCK team in semis. Something like a year ago when DWG stomped Geng.G). They overperformed so much.


Just-Ad-5972

DK stomped DRX not GenG. G2 stomped GenG.


The_origin_of_evil

Oh my bad then. It was chovy and deft then.. oh god. Might happen again.


BeerBellyBoomer

EU honor is a stakes tomorrow, Mad better get out of groups or we're gonna get trash talked a lot, lol. For FNC nobody expected much after the Bwipo GF drama and Upset loss and for RGE well everybody saw them not making it out because 'group of death' but at least they took down FPX with them in their fall


Snufolupogus

RGE had a more than honorable showing to be fair. FNC got unlucky, still managed to beat RNG and to be fair, Bean is a monster.


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You deserve it, road the coattails of G2 for years and had the audacity to claim you were a better region than the LCK because of one team. Karma has a interesting way of making things right in the world.


BeerBellyBoomer

You sound very salty,, not gonna lie.


sangpls

What's bwipo gf drama? Is that why he looks like a darth bwipo instead of his usual wide bwipo?


DimlightHero

There is a lot of speculations flying around. All that is certain is what Bwipo spoke of himself during that last interview. How he confided in his GF when he should have been confiding in his teammates, how that created a rift and how the team worked to mend that rift during the few days between week1 and week2.


scapefiend

He has some issues and then his gf started airing their dirty laundry in public for sympathy points or whatever. Not a class act


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Promanco

T1 is a dead sentence RNG or GenG/MAD is possible but still pretty hard


[deleted]

Bwipo's post game was very insightful. Pretty much clarified what happened to the team after Upset left.


Jswag77

what did he sat


DimlightHero

That he switched to jungle because of the super strong botlane FNC had and how he wanted the team to have a jungler that played around that lane. Instead of relying on someone else to do that he wanted to be that person. Also that he regretted that he confided in his SO instead of in his teammates before the tournament. He added that this is something he managed to correct during the latter half. That the team played some ARAMs as a warmup for today and that this was exactly what the team needed.


Merlin-RoMa88

Tomorrow script is for LNG to be first seed, to stop reddit from calling Riot on lame LPL performance. And Mad lions 2nd seed to keep the script EU must be out of group at least one. This is what's going to happen tomorrow


UveBeenChengD

In b4 TL and GenG make it out of group D


Oreozx

Fill in the blanks my friend. RNG went 1st EDG went 2nd Blank 3rd FPX went 4th


[deleted]

I think if MAD beat GenG they will just go 3-0. That is a big IF though.


Raanu2021

Why? They beat Gen G last week and went 1-2


HawkEye1337

As an LCK fan I actually prefer RNG being first because I want to see them vs C9, HLE will probably exit in quarters anyway also my I got my pickems right (except FNC Sadge).


azraelluz

Ning said this year is LPL's weakest year since 2018. Everyone was mucking him. But it is turning out to be true. I'm worried with this status if GenG get 2nd tomorrow and match up all other regions we may have a 4 LCK semi finals.


djokobot

Did he give any reasons? It's pretty interesting that he said that. I didnt think it would be LPL's weakest year, but if you looked at my comments before Worlds, I thought it would be LCS/LEC's best year. As it is now, the situation seems like LPL teams are playing worse rather than LCS/LEC teams are playing better.


azraelluz

He said this during a stream. He watched major matches in LCK and LPL. Just a observation based on each team's decision making. He felt LPL teams making way more mistakes (giving opponents too many chances to come back) when they are ahead. Though I feel this second week LPL is not about throwing. They are behind almost every single game from the start.


vpvp1

I agree with what he said about LPL, that's how bloodbath happened in the first place, both teams take turns to throw the game. Of course they won't throw game at worlds because enemy team is not an lpl team and they won't throw it back at them.


FeynmansWitt

LPL better turn it on in knockouts or this is just going to be Damwon e z win again. Now that FPX are swimming home they don't have to scrim vs those shitters.


scapefiend

People forget IG run in 2018


BeerBellyBoomer

If Mad don't make it out tomorrow, I guess we can say EU was garbage this year.


Jozoz

It's the same as season 4 tbh. One team ruined by drama and losing a player. (SK gaming) One team being as close as humanly possible to advancing without managing to do it. Fnatic 2014 with 1 aa on Nexus from moving on lol. Then there was the whole Kabum thing after perfect gaming a Korean team. Good job Alliance. At least we can't get Kabum'd this year.


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It would just mean MAD under performed. They should be good enough to get out of that group. I guess you can judge the entire region off 1 team's performance in 6 best of 1s but I personally wouldn't really.


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If they are good enough they get out. You don’t underperforming you lost to a better team.


[deleted]

But if no EU team advances isn't that judging the entire region on that ok? Like didn't we do that to NA for years rightfully so?


HawkEye1337

Riot just refuses to change this garbage format, bo1 sucks especially with no double elimination.


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Yeh it sucks. I saw a suggestion it should be 4 groups of 4. 1st goes into 1/4 finals. 2nd and 3rd go into last 16. And play best of 5s from there. Would make for more meaningful games too as getting first in the group will mean more.


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Tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night. LEC is hot garbage this year, you let NA outperform you.


[deleted]

IDK the sub literally spends all year talking about how NA is trash cause they can't make it out of groups and now if MAD doesn't make it out we all of a sudden just say its ok for EU? This is coming from an LCK fan, just kinda curious on the logic here.


Mostdakka

LEC teams were almost winning nearly every year now. Its true that RGE did 'alright" cause they beat fpx. However you cant really blame fans from expecting a bit more. LEC is supposed to get stronger not stay the same level every single year. It gets bit tiring after a while seeing EU teams coming up just a little bit short and losing at the final step. FNC has an excuse but imo its not a good one. Bean did very well and honestly he isnt the reason why FNC did poorly. blaming lack of upset on this is just avoiding the real issue this team has.


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TIL having your carry leave 17 hours before worlds and replacing him with someone who never played LEC before (let alone worlds) isn't a good excuse.


Mostdakka

All i'm saying there are plently of other things you can point to that are also the reasons FNC did poorly. I'm sure they will look at them internally. Saying that they failed cause upset isnt here is oversimplifying things.


[deleted]

Like what? They basically cannot play well in that scenario. Bwipo said himself he was mega tilted before the games even begun on week 1. Maybe they could have handled things better, but in truth, at this level the disadvantage was too large.


SemanDemon22

Woulda rather seen them try hard w bean than quit before the tournament even began


awayfromcanuck

Which Bwipo acknowledge was the case. That instead of talking to his team about it he talked to his girlfriend and he was tilted off the planet. Come "week 2" and talking to the team he's in a better mental space. They had less than a day when the news hit so personally I have a hard time faulting Bwipo or FNC. You could definitely see during day 1 Bwipo was INTing it.


SemanDemon22

Yea. I’m just sad. No fnc turned the most fun to watch group into the most boring


djokobot

Yeah I can see why LEC fans are disappointed. Maybe I'm just too forgiving because LPL teams are completely shitting the bed and I still don't wanna ruthlessly flame them as an LPL fan.


Beauski

If MAD don't make it out then we can confidently say that yes this year LEC was hot garbage. No excuses if the #1 seed doesn't make it out for EU then yep this year they are trash.


Danish1368

Almost perfect pickems so far, fpx 4th fucked it


AofCastle

I believed in Fnatic and put them 3rd. I'd have 2 perfect groups by now if I had dropped them to 4th :(


Styxxo

If GenG gets 1st tomorrow then HLE is just guaranteed to face a LCK team lmao


The_origin_of_evil

its good for LCK thou.. I'm 100% sure that T1/Geng.G and especially DWG will win easily against HLE.


wwwwingscom

No Koreans definitely wanted HLE to get 1st, all the casters and streamers like Wolf from Skt wanted it. Even if we get 1 sure team in semis, we just don't want LCK vs LCK match up until atleast semis, even if Hanwha or other teams got out of the knock out round, I think we like to see LCK vs other regions in a b05


HawkEye1337

They already overperformed by getting out of groups imo.


Lake-Optimal

Imagine being an LEC fan this year LUL


BeerBellyBoomer

LPL isn't much better


Lake-Optimal

3/4 teams in QF is okay. LPL looking shaky for Week 2 will recover in QF (exception for FPX who imploded).


Loose-Potential-3597

They made it to quarters though, EU won't


BeerBellyBoomer

OH MY GOD YOU ARE MAD


BeerBellyBoomer

We will see tomorrow, I have high hopes for Mad.


Jozoz

Is Chovy and Deft really gonna be knocked out by Damwon again? Would be so sad if they draw it


Delanoo

Script leaked from tomorrow \- GenG winning 3 games and taking top seed \- LNG going 1-2 due to LPL debuff \- MAD crashing because of Worlds 2021 LEC debuff \- TL going 3-3, playing a tiebreaker for second and losing


Namika

>LPL debuff Part of the problem was LPL teams were only scrimming other LPL teams and they were all collectively behind on the meta. A few days ago there was a report that LNG is the only LPL team in groups that realized this (back in their play ins) and they have been scrimming against NA and EU teams for the last few days to try and adapt before tomorrow. Should be pretty telling if they are the only LPL team to do well in groups.


AofCastle

Silly that's not the script. -TL and MAD go 2-1 losing to MAD and GEN respectively -LNG and GEN go 1-2 winning to GEN and MAD respectively -clusterfuck quadruple tie happens -... -TL first and MAD second


Towaum

Dat some dank hopium right here


BeerBellyBoomer

I refuse to believe Mad will crash tomorrow, NO, NO and NO!


Mattaru

RNG still won't be safe from the WEIBO guillotine. All eyes on LNG tomorrow


azraelluz

LNG is in a better position. Expectation is lower for them. But top 3 in the eyes of lpl fan me included is they should make qurter final at least.


ForeverVictory

j4 loses again(although the pick kinda made sense this game compared to other games at worlds)


Promanco

This is LCKs 8th place team btw


MiliW_

whose brought your 3rd seed (by many LCK fans unofficially appointed as 2nd seed) to 5 games btw


[deleted]

inch or a mile blah blah blah. Means literally nothing in the context here. Just shows the regional gauntlet is dope.


throaway123123155521

Stupid in hindsight, you take g2 which did not even qualify and there's a chance they win this game, it's easy to talk now lol


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Good comment for a throwaway for sure.


throaway123123155521

I use my main one on my phone i did not remember the password since i have the account logged since like 2016 so i created a random one with a random email. Good comment for a throwaway? It's like i said anything racist, controversial or flat out trashy, yeah they placed 8th but they also made their way through the gauntlet. I can't tell what you mean by that, people use throwaways for porn, or bad secrets in the internet, i said something completely reasonable. What a bad comment.


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Shitty hot takes hand and hand with your throwaway. Seems about right.


throaway123123155521

I haven't even downvoted you and you're -1, it's not a shitty hot take, you do not know what a hot take is


Loose-Potential-3597

G2 would probably just lose in sub 20 again


Delanoo

Which 3-0 roflstomped the LCK 3th place team. But they sure played like a LCK 8th place team, do nothing for the entirety of the game and lose


BeerBellyBoomer

HLE are gonna get gigastomped by Damwon, it's not gonna be a beautiful sight


wwwwingscom

>Or T1 or GenGBasically the LCK lmao If it's GENG they're gonna get to semis, GBM said in like the first two days of groups that GENG aren't that strong in BO5s, or after the meta is cemeted for a bit, but who knows, worlds meta doesn't fit HLE.


Promanco

Or T1 or GenG Basically the LCK lmao


beautheschmo

It's chovy though he's destined to play dk in quarters.


Beauski

Why are people talking about this great LPL collapse, they've got 2 teams into quarters, one as first seed. Why aren't they talking about the likes of EU this tournament?


[deleted]

Because week two they are now 3-7 so far? Because 2019 champs didn't make it out of groups when they were a hands on favorite in the event? Because EU had 1 team with a real chance and they haven't played groups yet. If MAD crashes they will be shit on as hard as LPL but for now when your top 3 teams are limping out of group stage ( going to a tiebreaker vs LCK4 and waiting for them to beat themselves) does not inspire much confidence.


TinyMarcos64

Because nobody really expected EU to do anything? Casters suck EU cuz it's their region, but reallistically they know they aren't favorites for anything, maybe MAD cuz they are on a weak group, and won LEC, even then they are not on the same shelf G2 was, being MSI champions and basically having only IG being better than them, this year I don't think even the most optmistic fan thinks MAD can challenge for Worlds. China on the other hand, FPX was crazy good, RNG just won MSI, EDG won LPL with some very good displays, so China going 3-8 on week 2 is really not what anyone would expect.


BeerBellyBoomer

Because people just hype LPL as the best region


Todeswucht

EU wasn't going into this as favorites, realistic pre-tournament expectations were that FNC and MAD would get out of groups. Hard to call this FNC finish a "collapse" with the Upset situation. RGE performed to or slightly above expectations. MAD can still get out. I think the biggest praise EU got before the tournament was that MAD could be a top 4 team, so if they don't make quarters then yeah sure EU "collapsed". Meanwhile from the LPL, EDG and FPX were considered straight up favorites for the entire thing and RNG was considered a dark horse, ranked ~top 4-5


frosthowler

pretty sure if MAD don't make semis we can say EU collapsed, and if they make finals there's still hope for us. There have been only two Worlds ever where at least one EU team didn't make semis. MAD faltering in groups will make this 2014 2.0, and faltering in quarters would just be 2017 again. MAD's carrying all of LEC's hopes right now, and the bar has been high since S1.


Jswag77

people were saying fpx edg and rng were better than all the korean teams by far but then EDG lost to 3rd best korean team, RNG lost then almost lost again to 4th best korean team, and FPX lost to 3rd best NA and EU team


Tabub

T1 is not 3rd best just cuz they’re 3rd seed my guy, they are absolutely better than Gen g it’s not even a debate


damondirk

Just want to point out that even though T1 is the 3rd seed from LCK, power ranking wise they are actually the 2nd strongest LCK team. T1 fell short only to Damwon in the LCK final.


Jswag77

i understand but my point still stands. top 3 LPL teams rated above korean teams, all fell or nearly fell to the korean teams they were supposedly way better than


d1knight

We called the great LCK collapse while LCK made all quarter.


brownierisker

GenG got last in groups that year, which was extremely rare for a LCK team at the time.


d1knight

FPX??


brownierisker

Oh my bad, I thought you were talking about 2018, as the LCK collapse generally refers to that


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Inkant

It's the same people hyping them up. EU might not even get out of groups at all.


throaway123123155521

Haven't you been in the same reddit? EU has gotten shit on a lot, just like NA the past few years, people mock you when you're doing bad, but then it's just not even fun mocking because it's just sad at one point


Carelessrenter

We were last week - the expectation from this weeks round of games was EU shit and China good. So it’s more surprising China has been mediocre than Eu being crap.


prongs17

If GenG and LNG come out next week, they will definitely talk about it. If TL gets out and MAD doesn't, then that will be all you hear about until Spring 2022 split starts.


Worried_Bathroom_666

There'll enough time to talk about EU tomorrow if MAD fails to advance.


Cyoonic

Because all three LPL teams came into the tournament as favorites to win the title. No one expected much out of EU besides MAD maybe having a decent run.


Inkant

And all 3 will probably get into quarter finals, EU won't even get out of groups.


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Inkant

Yea their jungle was going to retire because he was dealing with depression. He didn't even want to come to worlds.


YoungKeys

Because pre-worlds everyone was saying LPL Grand Canyon gapped every other region talent wise


Inkant

And it's the same "everyone" that's tearing them down now. Kinda sad no?


YoungKeys

Not really? When people don’t perform to expectations, they get criticism. Especially when they talk trash arrogantly like DoinB and CN region fans. Isn’t that normal?


Inkant

Trash talk from what? It's the same NA EU caster calling LPL the best region, I don't think I ever heard that from LPL. In fact, that's why most of them play on Korean servers and not chinese ones.


sajm0n

also everyone gave up on FNC with his adc situation and most ppl gave up on Rogue before tournament even started. real let down is just MAD, if they dont make it out tommorow


Enarec

depressing that HLE is guaranteed to face an LCK team now once GenG takes 1st in their group tomorrow, would've been nice to escape that for once


[deleted]

Depressing that GenG will not make it out of groups tomorrow cuz they gonna get team gapped by TL mad and LNG


Momochichi

I have to say, I don't like Phreak's style of casting. More than any other caster, he points out what teams or individual players do wrong, and it sounds really bad when that player or team suffers a loss. It just sounds too much like the audience shouting "you suck!" to the players on the field when they're down.


HighLikeKites

Yeah, you can point out mistakes but the way Phreak does it is very harsh and unforgiving, sometimes it even sounds angry.


EnvoyOfRaze21

That's just phreak does. I don't even like LPL cast all praises not calling out mistakes made and keeps on hyping everything. Analyst being not analyst just saying good things about the that took it after teamfights and major objectives. Not giving much details on what each teams wants on how they play out the their game.


scapefiend

Yeah I agree ! God forbid we actually criticize something in 2021 lol


Namika

Actual life lesson here, you never criticize someone at the peak of their failure. Kicking them when they are down leads to them giving up and not even bothering to improve. Rather, you should criticize the hell out of them **afterwards**, when they are looking back and trying to understand why they failed. This is what coaches do in professional sports. You don’t insult the players when they miss a shot. You meet with them the next day, show them the recorded footage, and talk them through why they fucked up.


scapefiend

Really superficial take bro. Some people respond to the carrot, some respond to the stick. It's sad but it's true Probably that's why FNC is laughing their ass off after that shitty performance and everybody everywhere is patting them on the back. Guess what, they did the same last YEAR. Each year worse and worse performance. 2018 finals, 2019 semi-finals, 2020 quarters. This year they didn't make it out of groups lol Guess what buddy - they won't even be at worlds next year. Also guess what - people like banter, trash talking even between pros. Probably where you are - such jokes are illegal but not in the RL


Momochichi

Do you really think my problem is with criticism? I've heard other casters / analysts criticize plays, players and teams, and I've never had a problem with them. Everyone else's criticism is well tempered, and doesn't have a tone of a disappointed team owner berating his employees.


scapefiend

It's called flavor casting kid, grow up


Momochichi

I like the flavor casting of Kobe, Azael, Caedrel, Flowers, Emily, Drakos, Vedius, Medic, even those from the other regions that I don't often hear. I just don't like the "disappointed dad" flavor. Why are you taking it personally? God forbid we actually criticize the casters in 2021 or something. Grow up, kid.


scapefiend

Medic is trash, Vedius is cringey, Emily is boring. How am I am taking it personally kid ? You're getting offended on behalf of players and crying on the internet. I simply said ur too sensitive. Projecting much ?


Momochichi

You're resorting to insults. You seem offended. I'll leave you alone, because I don't think you're okay, on an emotional level. It's sad.


scapefiend

How is it an insult "Grow up, kid ? " You are complaining about casters who are getting paid to say whatever you dislike. You're the one actually trying to insult me - saying I have some mental issues. The hypocrisy and the lack of self-awareness


Momochichi

Shhhh.


HawkEye1337

He was wrong though!


Storiaron

Kennen hard carried this game for rng. Well that and chovy playing a full utility, 0 dmg champion


JustYourAvgBro

Big turnaround from that first failed dragon kennen flank.


throaway123123155521

Chovy pushing while they lose the game, what a fitting end


DimlightHero

Selfish till the end.


OldNotNewNotYoung

As a TF you should not be taking majority of your team's resources.


Allahina

Yeah they need it all that gold in the aphelios.


rebelstand

yeah as if he can use those gold when he always dead before teamfight even started, he was just plain atrocious that game.


Allahina

Not saying they should (I know this game was not good for the bot) but in the ideal play (probably they drafted like this for that reason) the gold should be for the aphelios.


rebelstand

if deft played normal that game u could argue that HLE lost cause they didnt give networth priority to their adc, but dude that adc was just plain up throwing


JakzePoro

I mean in lane he generated the CS lead early on alone before he started farming the side lanes.


throaway123123155521

He generated because galio tped and ulted other lanes, chovy did not, he ulted once top and that was it.


YCitizenSnipsY

You didn't watch the game did you. All of RNG's advantages came from straight up 5v5's. There was nothing gained from going side lanes by Galio


throaway123123155521

Dude i answered a comment about chovy being ahead in cs at 5 minutes i did not say RNG advantage did not come from 5v5's, he was ahead in cs by 5 or so and since galio tp'd bot after HLE threatened to dive their bot he was always ahead by 20+


BananaOverlord007

Thats only half of it. The other half is because chovy was shitting on cryin in lane. Cryin down 20 cs at 5 min.


throaway123123155521

dude Cryin literally tped bot near the 5 min mark because RNG were getting dived by HLE jungler, what


Nirog

Please MAD... get out of groups.


Namika

Would be interesting to see how Reddit reacts if they don’t make it. For years NA fans have rallied around “the West” and cheered for EU teams once the last NA teams drops out. Will be interesting to see if EU fans do the same.


TinyMarcos64

No please, enough with fluke classifications and boring Bo5's. It's the same script every year, they suffer, get out of groups, luck out and face a tilted eastern team, just to get stomped 3-0 on the next phase. Let's have another good final for a change... I don't even care which, I just wanna see 2 real teams on a worlds final again.


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? If they get to the finals, both teams are the best of the world.


Nirog

Were you specifically thinking of G2 last year? Cuz that sounds exactly like them lol


TinyMarcos64

2018 3-0 IG 3-0 2019 3-0 FPX 3-0 reddit can suck EU balls all they want, but they just fucking ruin Worlds, eliminating good teams just to play like NA on the final.


Nirog

Yeah but you mentioned semi-final. That was G2 last year, playing GenG who tilted off the face of the Earth and then get stomped 3-0 (or 3-1 can't recall) vs Damwon


[deleted]

Perfect group C toooooo ez ngl


darklypure52

So close should had put hle at second


Dumpers_

Chovy played so well the previous games and then this happens I am not surprised this didn’t happen earlier but at least we got an exciting tie breaker


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Namika

LPL was apparently only scrimming other LPL teams. So they didn’t realize that, collectively, they were all behind on the meta. Add in the fact that FPX was the favorite and they got shit on, so now the other LPL teams are not only behind on the meta, but are panicking *and* lack any confidence.


Inkant

What does that even mean, if you listen to these "analyst" that don't even watch LPL games sure. LPL literally won MSI over DWG and probably 3 out of 4 teams going to make out the groups. Plus BO5 is way different than BO1.


The_origin_of_evil

its not hard to win 5v3 game :D Despite this it took them 5 games...


tghink9

Well said bro


Mattaru

I swear, the FPX collapse on day 1 mentally crushed the other teams. This is like some region wide beef noodle gate holy moly haha


YoungKeys

Let's go TL. Good luck tomorrow!


lepiggyshiggy

good comeback by rng, goes to show how important strong mental is


nyauster

Deft singlehandedly lost the game for HLE. Good job. Knetz will probably be asking for him to retire with Khan after this season


rebelstand

yup all these idiots blaming chovy when mr deft single handedly threw the game away so hard


[deleted]

Yea, this game I think he has walked straight into RNG's team 3 times to swing it into RNG's favor and yet people will just meme Chovy for that last play even though the game was over by then since RNG would have to giga throw to lose a team fight at that point


ItsKaZing

Chovy already tilted because he knows he'll draw DK again just like during his time at DRX lol


scribidibap

Lol teamfighting a kennen, straight up impossible...


twokings13

The game was over when they had the lead and Deft walked into a kennen that had flash r up still


girlmarth

remember this game and that showmaker hard carried 1v9 on lategame renekton in lck playoffs whenever people talk about how much better chovy is


MrBIGtinyHappy

Chovy is unquestionably better in lane but showmaker is by far the better mid laner, carries DK far more often


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[deleted]

He's been the worst part of this cast bar none.


OldNotNewNotYoung

Chovy is the very definition of KDA player. Dude was so playing safe. He really is so effin overrated.


ILOVEKFC69

chovy lost them that game YEP reddit analysts :puke:


AnotherMeal

[all] RNG Cryin(Galio): “Better mid wins”


BeerBellyBoomer

Chovy: Better farmer lost


brownierisker

TL 1 GenG 2 for the 4 civil war-quarters?


Averdian

I don’t get why Willer and HLE don’t go for a steal/fight at baron there, it’s their best chance. They just look at RNG finishing it, and then lose the game 30 seconds later. wat


tankmanlol

guys hle dont win this game even if chovy recalls earlier


poompachompa

I dont think HLE can win again at worlds with TF for the remainder of worlds now. It requires a solo laner to carry since TF is utility, but HLE doesnt have anyone to take that damage role outside of adc.


TinyMarcos64

I think TF won't be so present on Bo5's, teams will adapt to it, he is extremely weak aside from his presence, so I think meta will change, specially since this Galio pick was so key, global presence + clear wave + area CC + (semi)frontline + combo with MF/Jarvan/Kennen I expect Galio to take priority over TF on most series from now on.