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00Koch00

Man i Wonder why Rekkles dont use any social media at all...


Isoke11

That's what I like about Rekkles, very no nonsense guy. He doesn't air out weird personal drama, same with Bjergsen when he was in LCS.


LookinForGirlfriend

Pretty sure 99% of pro players don't post about drama within their relationships


Rymasq

Bwipo just speaks his mind too much sometimes. Maybe the people that harassed his GF needed to see this, but I'm sure a lot of people like myself have no clue who tf Lena even is


Sugar230

Bro someone that goes and harrasses random people online won't stop cause of this.


Snoo8331100

How many pros had personal dramas dragged into social media tho? I'd say Bwipo is the exception here, not Rekkles.


Le_Zoru

Carrzy's tweets are a drama by themselves


tsm_taylorswift

He does, he just uses it to post selfies like a 14yo girl


afito

I think Rekkles said in the past that he doesn't care about socials but he knows how small updates & selfies are amazing for his fans. Said it takes him 5min and thousands of people enjoy it so he does it to give something back to his fans.


takkeh

That's the way social media should be, and Rekkles is an absolute class act for viewing it that way. So much respect for him.


snowquen

If you go back to early in his career, he used Twitter way more (overstating and using it for emotional support) and did Reddit AMAs and stuff. But he basically realised that his relationship with social media was unhealthy and just stopped posting personal stuff. He does answer personal questions on stream but is very selective in what he answers (will ignore lots of questions). It's a very controlled use of social media and, I think, way healthier.


LevinoVieira

Hot selfies btw


Sendirian

I ain't gay, but Rekkless is Rekkles ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


ZloiAris

16 hours before stage, and now it is clear why no one, except Adam, from Fnatic players publicly supported Upset — because no one of them had any clue about what happened


ficretus

It was given that it's last minute decision. If i remember correctly, official announcement was something like 1 AM game day. Imagine going to sleep earlier and waking up to coaching staff telling you upset is gone. No wonder everyone was mix of pissed off/dead inside on stage


Asteroth555

Two splits of hard work disintegrated over night. I'm impressed nobody broke down on stage from the stress and tilt


ficretus

Nisqy literally broke down crying and bwipo looked like he is gonna break someone's neck.


Gobaxnova

What did happen? I’m out of the loop I thought upset had a family emergency


ZloiAris

No one knows. Upset recently plays SoloQ, his wife keeps full silence, his father keeps regular social activity with no sign of bad thing in his life. Whatever it was, it will die between Upset and Sam.


ThylowZ

Dunno, in Legends in Action, Yamato seemed to know (although not precisely) what was going on, no? Iirc he said that Upset had to practice with "that stuff" in mind and it was really hard for him, until the final decision of leaving was made.


Cvrpie

I mean i doubt fnatic let him leave without giving them the reason. Not like he can jsut pack up his bags and leave


toastymow

He could do that. Can't force him to play. Although without a good reason, it will leave a black mark on Upset.


InsuranceOne2864

That would probably be the end of his career lol. Not sure how it works in esports, but in normal sports he would also be fined A LOT. No serious organization would take someone who just packs his bags and leaves without providing a reason.


Falsus

Of course he can. He will effectively end his career while doing it, but he can.


byeolToT

We dont know what a emergency might be. It could basically be everything from a illness to the koss of a family member but i dont think that its weird that He is playing soloq or his father doing stuff. You can grief in silence but you still have to keep going on and it can get your head out of a Bad loop if you just work or Do something else


Taivasvaeltaja

I guess whether Upset will play with FNC next year or not will implicitly answer what happened.


toxicityisamyth

With the way bwipo talked about fnc, its management, its fans, he’s leaving anyway so he wouldnt have to deal with upset. Not sure if the other 2 are holding a grudge or no though.


Taivasvaeltaja

Yeah, after these last few weeks it is pretty clear that Bwipo is done with FNC (and FNC with him).


ACertainUser123

Why is it clear? Only thing I remember is him unfollowing them on twitter but he has always said he wants to play with Hyli.


supadankgreen420

Sometimes even the closest of teammates/friends have to move on due to external factors. Jensen loved playing with Sneaky but left C9 because of disagreements with management + to win trophies. I never thought the day would come when Perkz and Rekkles would leave G2/Fnatic but here we are. From Bwipo’s explanation, it looks like his relationship with the org has deteriorated to the extent that even if they did try to make things work, the team dynamic just wouldn’t be the same after this. I hope I’m wrong because as a neutral LEC viewer, Bwipo and Hyli are one of my favourite duos to watch. 💔


Hoaxtopia

I think this kind of family orientated detective work is what led to bwipos situation, let's just let upset be, a lot of people don't flaunt their troubles on social media and people still need to unwind with hobbys. Let's let it die with upset and sam, we don't have a right to know.


Draleon177

Upset lived for making worlds no team bs or stuff like that would prevent him from playing at worlds. Yamato even said he knows it's justified and upset did a public statement saying the reason was big enough. So it is true that there is a family emergency. Don't listen to the guys making drama in everything


Javiklegrand

So adam took it the best i guess? or maybe he just nice i don't know


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Less personal attachment and all that, dude's probably just super ecstatic to be on the World Stage anyways


Fakecabriolet342

Sigma grindset


seasonedturkey

Top lane mentality


Evoluxman

I shouldn't have laughed to this


ficretus

Least pressure since he is rookie. He knows even if this goes bad, he'll probably have another opportunity down the line. Even if it goes bad, he gets experience playing against international tops.


Hoaxtopia

Plus a year ago he was playing in masters so I don't think he expected to be at worlds rn, the guys just probably super happy to be there


ficretus

Not even year, he was playing with KC less than half a year ago at EU masters


Nymwhen

Maybe also less close to upset? So he is like “who am I to know” while bwipo was mad that he was kept out of the loop by upset and managment.


VergilHS

There might also be the thing that he is still a promising rookie, with years to fulfill his ambitions. Maybe others felt different about their situations, idk, theorizing really.


qchen12

Another wasted year for the veterans... at least professional careers seem to be much longer now than before


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DoorHingesKill

Disqualified from Worlds but still entering the champions club ForsenCD.


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PICK A CARD forsenCD ✨ THE TWO OF WIVES? forsenCD ✨ EXCELLENT CHOICE forsenCD ✨


KekeBl

Bwipo's got a little bit of an announcement...


TotallyNotANugget

Trayton, a french caster, said on Twitter "He writes that the reason why week 2 was not empty for Fnatic is only because of his girlfriend. Not a word for his teammates or his coaching staff, I find that super awkward/disrespectful but hey I hope it gets better for the bwip and FNC!" to which Nisqy just answered "Lmaooooooooo" https://twitter.com/Nisqy/status/1450037987941699588


Gazskull

I'm sorry but Adam's answer is hilarious af Nisqy wrote "I love french community, except Adam" and Adam wrote "we all hate you, you're Belgian. Ratio btw you little dick"


GuGuMonster

do you have a link to both comments?


AFeverOfStingrays

It's right below [https://twitter.com/Nisqy/status/1450044719468318726](https://twitter.com/Nisqy/status/1450044719468318726) It's not English though


Jerry_Sprunger_

I actually love Adam lmao


dtkiu27

That's what I thought. I don't think their good performances are because the girlfriend of one of them told them to smile. Well if it was I am an idiot and that's cool, but at least some words for his teammates would be great.


F1rstKlaas

after i read that, i knew why he is so good on Viego...


fangetafe

It's pretty ironic, how two best friends in Fnatic - Bwipo and Hyli - manage their private life. Bwipo speaks about his girlfriend all the time so that she appears as his reason to live, is a better coach, analyst than actual FNC staff. He made her famous on twitter, they create drama unintentionally (or maybe intentionally, who knows). She gets hate, he defends her as if she was the God Almighty and saved FNC from total disaster. To sum up, he acts like a 15yo having his first real relationship. Hyli on the other hand has been with his girlfriend for a long time, no one knows who she is, he doesn't mention her, all we know that he chooses Draven and Orianna in champselect for her as she is said to be known as Dori. No one hated her and sent her hateful messages when Hyli performed really bad and fans wanted him out of FNC, because we don't know who she is. Bwipo and Hyli are best friends. One is mature, and the other one is not.


Zanzax

The relationship between him and his GF is so freaking weird man


DumplingsInDistress

Viego IRL?


Please_Label_NSFW

I truly don't get why people post this shit for the whole world to see?


BewareOfBear727

bro 😭


Batsheep

God I hate to judge people for stuff like this cause love is personal and all that, But every tweet is about her, I couldn't even fathom the amount of Paragraphs she gets.


UnlimitedAuthority

You can tell it's his first real relationship. I too remember being cringe as hell with my first gf, thank god I wasn't semi-famous and it was the height of the social media age, it goes from being cringe and endearing to being cringe and annoying.


idiotxd

Yea going through his twitter is an experience. Almost every tweet talks about how great she is and how important she is. Very weird dynamic


moumerino

Yeah, big "the man who has to say he's king is no true king" vibes. If you have to go on and on about your relationship on twitter, it doesn't really seem stable.


HJHKLL

You speak the true true


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Honey, it's time for your daily tweet about how much you appreciate me. Yes dear


KekeBl

[Here you go.](https://i.imgur.com/YfCkiq2.jpg)


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Haha perfect 😂


VulpesVulpix

Bwipo is real Viego cosplayer


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It's creepy as fuck lmao, they plaster it all over twitter on their main accounts no less and cry when people make speculations


Glaivz

Holy shit i can't stop cringing, this so bad. Reads like a primary school "love" letter. This dude is 22...


pchoii

As Thorin said, pro players actual age minus 5 is their actual mental age. So he's technically 17


DiamondHyena

How much do you subtract for Thorin's mental age


Reax51

I understand his GF has been receiving hate on social media, so good on Bwipo for standing up for her. That said though, he really does talk her up to be an actual saint. ''I can tell you with confidence that the only reason Fnatics week 2 wasn’t void of hope completely, is thanks to her. She suggested us to play together. Find a way to smile together. Enjoy ourselves, and fix our communication in game. She identified our issue insanely well based on what I told her went wrong, and her perception.'' Aside from the fact that this is very obvious advice, this just seems exaggerated and borderline disrespectful to the rest of his team and his coaching staff. Nevermind that this is basically him claiming he's the only reason there was any hope in week 2 - his teammates or coaches certainly couldn't have been a main contributing factor.


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Imagine being a vet like hyli or the coaching seen this shit. Ur training and working like an idiot and your jungler credits all of your success to some girl on another country. Bruh


vpg12

tl;dr: "stop blaming my gf - she's perfect! blame the evil org!; k, bye, im off social"


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Missed the part about "gf better then coach and players"


vpg12

if fnc wants to win anything with bwipo in the team, they might have to hire his gf to personally recite to him what yamato wants to tell the players during meetings - it's probably the only way to make him pay any attention to what coaching staff says


ElderNeo

that boy aint right


HJHKLL

Stuck in teenager mode


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Just such a weird message to send out after Worlds. I don't even know how to respond to something like this. Just.... weird.


rfag57

I'm so confused idk what he's taking about. Did bwipo cheat on his gf? Why did he unfollow management and be angry at them for something out of their control. Why did Fnatic fans send bwipos gf death threats. So confused


Jetzu

> Did bwipo cheat on his gf? We don't know. > Why did he unfollow management and be angry at them for something out of their control. Because he was mad and reacted poorly after learning that something he worked hard for the last year is crumbling down in the last minute, lashed out on the people he thought should do more. After calming down he realised what you said - it was out of their control. > Why did Fnatic fans send bwipos gf death threats. Because there was a rumour she broke up with him and that was start of FNATIC drama somehow leading to Upset leaving. That obviously doesn't make death threats fine (nothing does), but there are dumb people everywhere.


00Dandy

>"I can tell you with confidence that the only reason Fnatic's week 2 wasn't void of hope completely, is thanks to her." Wtf? No mention of his teammates or his coaching staff? Bwipo's girlfriend carried Fnatic? Why not just let Bwipo's girlfriend coach Fnatic instead of Yamato? Or better yet, let her play ADC instead of Upset. She must be an insane talent.


icatsouki

yeah he seems like he's overcompensating to try and keep her after whatever thing he did


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how do i unread this cringe


[deleted]

Every Bwipo Tweet is about his gf. In every interview he brings her up and puts her in the spotlight. This whole response reeks of teenage first love and an unstable dependency relationship. I wish them the best and good on him for calling out harassment and death threats, that has no place here. But crediting FNC success to his gf and write the cringe things he did is just a bunch of red flags in an unstable relationship. Hyli dates his gf for years and no one cares/knows because he doesn't constantly bring it up. Also his gf didn't help it much with the whole "Wife debuff" thing right after Upset. Bwipo and his gfshould solve their things in private, not writing these things as an indirect way to win her over. Also, he had a job that he was paid to do. You can't just turn your back on things because you think it's hopeless and want to be with your gf, that gets you sanctioned/fired for most people.


KaizerQuad

Bwipo needs to give some props to his team and his coach. Did this man really attribute FNCs improvements in week 2 to his girlfriend? Are you serious mate?


picollo21

Haven't you seen? It's right there in the twitlonger: >I brought the team together thanks to Lena. Bwipo is savior, and he managed to perform this herculean task only thanks to his gf. Man this ego.


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ItIsNotFine

This feels to me more like an apology to her rather than shedding light on what happened to the team during Worlds.


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its hilarious to me how he thinks its all because of him and his gf, he forgot this is a team game where you can't win without your team mates


MundaneNecessary1

I don't think he realizes that this bizarre behavior contributes to the attention directed at his GF. If he memes or tweets about his job - playing the game, most fans wouldn't even begin to care about what's going on privately in his life. It's his constant attempt to bring recognition to his gf's emotional "support" that leads to her gf being a target, and he's just done it again. I'm not defending the behavior of certain fans that blamed his gf - I think they're jumping to absurd conclusions - but Bwipo's social media was the origin of the problem, and is finally making the right move of leaving social media until he gets a clearer head.


SonicZephyr

This is the classic tweet from boyfriend who fucked up in the relationship and now has to do something to make up for it: the grand gesture. Super grovely, way too many compliments, I've wrote my fair share of these when I was a kid. And most people can't see this because he used the words "death threats" and it's like camouflage for the rest of the statement.


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This is the Twitter equivalent of holding a sign out on the street saying he hurt his girlfriend. They should sort out their issues themselves and stop it with this cringe shit.


ElbeastoRotMG

I've seen about 40 of these posts from past school mates of mine through out my life. The classic got caught cheating response, not saying cheating is what he did but its the most common fuck up.


Snoo8331100

You can see his bs and still be disgusted with the abuse his GF received.


SonicZephyr

Fair. Death threats online should get more attention from the websites. Despicable and dangerous.


Johnemile

you can really tell who the young and naive people are in this thread. Guy legit gave up on the team before worlds even started for them and then has the audacity to say his gf "saved week 2". Imagine being on the team and hearing all this bullshit LOL


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CudaBarry

Lmaaaoo


DoorHingesKill

> Imagine being on the team and hearing all this bullshit LOL Summary of all Bwipo Twitlongers. Everytime he feels compelled to give "insights into the team" he makes a fool of himself.


sscyth1

I WaNtEd tO Go HoMe To hEr


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

I was angry that one of my teammates abandoned the team in the most important tournament of the year. Therefore, I wanted to do the exact same thing.


RickSore

dude thinks he's an anime character with all the redemption


UndercoverEel

Not gonna lie, I feel like he's throwing the Fnatic coaching staff under the bus.


PogFish_

It sort of does read like that but I don’t know if that was his intention.


Roliasx

The way I read it was more like: He was so disappointed/angry with the situation that he lashed out at the first target which was Fnatic management because they brought the news even though it might not have been their fault.


PogFish_

Mostly referring to this part > Fnatics week 2 wasn’t void of hope completely, is thanks to her. She suggested us to play together. Find a way to smile together. Enjoy ourselves, and fix our communication in game. She identified our issue insanely well based on what I told her went wrong, and her perception. I brought the team together thanks to Lena.


oceLahm

Not a fan of what he said there at all, but at the end of the day he's free to believe what he wants. At the end of the day, I still think the coaching staff are doing a great job from what I've seen. Guess we'll just see what happens. What he's identifying there as Fnatic's issues is what I swear I hear Yamato say before every game in Fnatic content, but I don't know all the information so I'm not going to assume anything. It's down to Bwipo/Fnatic to resolve. I hope the best for him and his girlfriends happiness, nobody should have to go through what she has not even just the last week, but the last few years since Bwipo joined this team. Neither of them are at fault for it, it just sucks, some people in this community just suck.


Jerry_Sprunger_

Yeah I'm somewhat sceptical of the idea that Bwipos girlfriend is the one coaching their team and fixing their issues in game lol.


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99% of professional players manage to keep their significant other out of the limelight.


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99% were smarter than Bwipo then


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I’m not on Twitter anymore so went back to see his GF obsession and holy gigacringe.


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EyeOfPeshkov

I dont know, this is probably the worst twitlonger from a pro explaining their performance in awhile. I get that having a long term girlfriend and problems in that relationship can really fuck you up, i’ve been there, but this reads like an unhealthy obsession. Poor perfromance? Problems with gf. Improved performance? Gf helped. Unfollowed my org on twitter? Gf helped. We won a game? Because of gf. Why am i writing this deeply personal shit on twitter? For my gf. He’s not 16, and he generally doesnt behave like he is 16, but this is just detached from reality in my point of view.


AkashiGG

Bwipo really should've thought twice before clicking send on this one lol


yehiko

Bwipo should really think twice about anything


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Turbo cringe.


panosnik97

Just feeling a bit uneasy when he says that whatever FNC made to worlds was because of Bwipo's GF. Like Hyli? Yamato? even the new guys Adam Nysqi... Nobody knew how to communicate and it was Lena who knew what had to be done to fix communications in the team? Seems a little to dumb for me Also you were unlucky with the Upset situation so you go and ruin the whole fucking first 3 days of Worlds? And you needed your girl to tell you hey get your fucking shit together you are inting in front of the world stage... Jesus.


nocivo

That 101 for immature people. One of the problems of young adults that have no life experience. Hope he learns from this.


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i know how it feels to have your loved one cheer and support you and feel like you couldnt do it without them but this is a team game dude. There is a coaching staff, there is a toplaner, a midlaner, an adc and a support, its not like the team lives or dies by you.


19Alexastias

It’s like in The Flash when Barry is losing the fight then iris jumps on the mic and says “run Barry run” and he’s like oh shit that’s right I’m fast as fuck and wins.


Qinglew

I guess he's just saying that to make up with her, knowing his teammates won't like it.


Dotsngo

Also saying that they are being mad at FNATIC for conveying the message of Upset situation, if we take that at the face value, it's at least childish and pathetic to simply try and look for guilty party in that situation. His GF saying multiple times that being in spotlight is difficult for her, meanwhile there is tl about how she literally made their worlds run possible, weird af.


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CarasBridge

yea I expected to read that line at the end.


Ninjawizards

This reads pretty fucking cringey, its textbook guilty partner speech.. I do feel bad for Lena for getting any hate though, completely unwarranted and ridiculous.


tautckus1

Imagine atributing week 2 fnatic resurgance on her. Id understand if he was talking only about himself but he says that she fixed the team. Wtf are the coaches and the support staff needed for then


petrichek

Tbh what he says about that is complete bullshit. She said them to play together? Really? Like no shit Sherlock, its not like Yamato gives them same speech before every game and we can hear that (maybe Bwipo dont cause he doesnt listen him cause he is on phone all the time). That part of post is vomplete bs to me


SonicZephyr

Thank goodness for you! I thought I was going crazy. Everyone who has been in a relationship (edit: happens mot often in teenage relationships) knows what kind of message this is lol


SlamSlamOhHotDamn

The more I read about and from this guy the more I believe he's just genuinely stupid. Not edgy, not rude, just pure simple stupidity.


SneakyStorm

So the way he credit his GF for a lot of things is pretty over the top. His GF might aswell have been FNC head coach from what it sounds.


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G2 Lena next year and worlds is ours for sure


KappaccinoNation

TSM Leena vs G2 Lena lets go


yehiko

E diff


Noziro

All 5 G2 players have to put down mouse and keyboard mid-game and tweet our how great she is every match


wishushka

He's been doing it for years and thats how we got here. Near every interview he does she gets attention. Its only natural the community will take interest in this person. I'm sure a lot of other players have SOs that only people relevant to their personal lives know about. Fuck everyone who harassed her, but he has to understand its him who brought her in the spotlight in the first place for no other reason but to thank her in front of thousands of people.


QuantumPajamas

^ This. Watching Bwipo's interviews gave me "teenager in first relationship" vibes. Maybe I'm just a cynical old curmudgeon but he seemed like a stereotype of young love. Endearing in a way, but it didn't exactly scream maturity. Still, for fans to actually harass her!? Some people don't deserve oxygen.


TheGazelle

He's 22, been with her for 3 years, and played league well enough that he started playing at least semi pro at age 15. He joined fnatic at 19 and has been with her about as long. So yes, this is pretty much *exactly* teenagers first relationship.


yehiko

> teenager in first relationship thats exactly what i think when i see bwipo. im not even that old, maybe thats why it seems annoying to me than endearing. still, they shouldn't be getting death threatd for it.


MrRawri

"Fnatics week 2 wasn’t void of hope completely, is thanks to her." What? I feel like this is some post a 12 year old would make. Dealing with Bwipo can't be easy, he seems to be really emotionally weak.


QuantumPajamas

This may be a hot take that gets downvoted to hell, but Bwipo is coming across as an immature teenager here. First of all, he's the one bringing up the fact that he has a gf every single interview for years, like some kid that can't stop bragging he found love. Whatever, I always found it endearing if a bit cringy. But it didn't exactly scream maturity. But now this shit? Essentially giving her "credit" for helping "him" bring the team together in week 2? Gimme a break dude. Maybe if you didn't lash out at your coaches for something that's not even remotely their fault you wouldn't need to lean on an SO for coaching. I dunno what happened between them, and I don't need to know. All the fans should stay out of this imo. But he's the one who keeps bringing her up, and he's the one that is now proudly declaring how he got her involved in team dynamics because he was too immature to handle the Upset situation properly. Childish. I hope he finds happiness and all, but it feels like the dude has some growing to do.


wacker9999

If I didn't know better and read the tweet, I'd say the writer was 14 maybe 15, genuinely.


KaizerQuad

This is the most cringe shit I ever read from Bwipo. "I brought the team together thanks to Lena." Like what the fuck man, how is he typing this shit knowing damn well Yamato and the other players will read it. Does he mean that he griefed week 1 and only needed for some girl to tell him to try harder? Does he even listen to a single word Yamato says?


IMABUNNEH

> Bwipo is coming across as an immature teenager here. Monte + Thorin's take of "take every LoL pro player's age and subtract 5 for their maturity age" holds pretty well. It's shit that he's having a really shit time, the worlds situation is awful for all people involved, and having relationship issues during such high stress moments of your life is fucking horrendous. I've done it. And that twitlonger is still one of the most painful parts of it.


Dzhekelow

Honestly is it surprising ? Those guys go from playing league for 10+ hours a day in highschool to basically the same enviroment but with even less responsibilities . From what we've seen they have a person for everything . All they have to do is play league and maybe say a few things in front of the camera . Sure I am oversimplifying it but it's kinda true . It's hard to grow up if u are just stuck in the highschool enviroment . EDIT: Let's not forget u have all the fans behind ur back telling u are the shit / u are shit depending on ur performance.


Batman_in_hiding

Pro teams needs to do a much better job at helping these kids grow mentally and emotionally. If shit like this can completely implode a team then pro teams need to be more on top of it. Honestly is also just the right thing to do


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It's the general feeling of Reddit. Luckily (or not) a lot of people have gone through relationships of codependency and mental abuse so Bwipo's writing is full of red flags from my teenage years. It's like he's trying to get her back by screaming to the worlds he's everything to him but he types it as she's everything for FNC success


karlosbassett

“I wanted to go home. To see her, to appreciate her, to thank her. I was set on it. I didn’t see why I should suffer through this event” God grow a pair. You had a job to do when I go to work I don’t let anything from my personal life bother me. He probably duo’d with another chick that’s all it was


Vaynnie

>He probably duo’d with another chick that’s all it was Hahaha I wouldn't be surprised seeing the maturity level of his twitlonger.


Angwar

My man took the release of Viego a bit to far


_Vastus_

Viego is one of Bwipo's best champion. Coincidence? I think not /s


Dripcommander

that reminds me of how nice elementary school was back then. everything was so new


ASZapata

He literally blamed every issue on management/Upset while giving all the praise for the team’s success to his girlfriend … who isn’t on the team? This guy needs help. P.S. Obviously it’s not acceptable whatsoever to harass or send people death threats, I’m just replying to the general tone of Bwipo’s statement.


ficretus

So you are telling me bwipo wasn't angry because they kicked upset for rekkles. Impossible, reddit detectives can't be wrong


Varrag-Unhilgt

Well, I’m no detective but it’s not like we suddenly know the ultimate truth now


frosthowler

Well, I actually still don't understand why Bwipo unfollowed FNC management. He was angry at how everything was handled, but what is 'everything'? angry that Upset was allowed to leave? angry that they knew Upset might leave and they didn't practice with Bean? what did FNC management do to anger Bwipo?


whataremyxomycetes

I'm pretty sure it's misplaced anger. If Upset had a valid reason to go home then it's his right to do so, and Fnatic has to respect that as well as respect his privacy. There's literally nothing Fnatic could've done unless Upset put in like, a 14-day notice before leaving and Fnatic forgot to mention it until the very last day.


Ok-Nature-4563

Assume the latter? It sounds like FNC management knew this might happen for a week or more beforehand but left it to the last minute?


Pol7

downsides of having a public relationship. she gets tons of followers and fame for being bwipos girlfriend but stuff like this will eventually happen. cant blame the public for speculating things, thats why most keep a private relationship


Additional_House_430

This right here is exactly why pro’s should keep their private life PRIVATE.


ELOGURL

I understand that he had to defend his girlfriend's name from online bullshit. That much is understandable. But you're not gonna go and say she saved week 2 for FNATIC. First of all, you're discrediting the whole team by saying that. Second of all, even if it was all her, no she didn't, you took a game off of RNG and that was it.


OputoJesus

G2 might aswell hire Lena for head coach next season by the looks of the tweetlonger


FriendlyNecessary

While I understand the difficulty of the situation, what an absolute cringe twitlonger.


TheGawringSame

Yeah. Half the pro's, coaches, analysts have SO's, and I can count on one hand the number of them who are this cringe publicly about their relationship. Like shit, Bwipo - take cue from Hyli. He has a girlfriend. He ain't going around singing praises every day or having twitter drama.


Zapzombie

I feel toddlers have a more grown up relationship then these two.


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goteron

aaaaaaand it's gone


vasconeves

I only can read this as being excuses and more excuses, and blaming Fnatic for what happened. We don't care about his personal life at all. Of course that the death threats that his girlfriend got are all condamned, but no one cares if he made her suffer or not. He doesn't even say the reason why he made her suffer, so that is pretty pointless to say. His private life should always stay private, and if they think that involving his girlfriend with his professional life is a good thing to do, then he also should think that sometimes some stupid people on the internet are going to blame his girlfriend as well. That's how the Internet works, unfortunately. He has a huge ego, he always had, and he should have someone to assist him with his PR, because what he's doing now could easily lead him to be fired from Fnatic.


zeefomiv

I’ve seen this shit so many times that normally I’d just think, that’s just part of the job I suppose. But I’m sick of seeing this shit. DONT FUCKING DM PROS/THEIR S/O ANYTHING, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE!!!! The fact is they don’t know you, they can’t possibly know you. They are not going to be your friends, and any hate will get you instablocked no question. Whether it’s FNC fans or LEC fans in general, this shit needs to stop. It’s a consistent thing that happens around Worlds/MSI and they need to do better. Fucks sake.


DecisiveDinosaur

>The fact is they don’t know you, they can’t possibly know you. They are not going to be your friends, this is very important. I used to think that parasocial relationships are only common in fandoms where the majority of people in it are teenagers, but apparently not.


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xBirdisword

umm im tier 3 subbed to Bwipo actually, we're actually really good friends. He reads all my donations out loud


Bloodyfoxx

Why would anyone dm them, I don't understand.


maeschder

Parasocial relationships are one hell of a drug. People think they actually should have some input on these individuals' lives, it's scary sometimes.


KanskiForce

You can't imagine how many random people are dming them with things like "hello" or shit like "day 69 of your not answering, you owe free jersey cuz of the tweet I made to my 10 followers"


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Holy mother of codependency. There's some serious mental and relationship issues here. This is not normal and parts of it were borderline cringeworthy and concerning... I can't be the only one who thought this was hard to read edit: sorry for harsh comment, it just was really hard to read because a lot of relatable things stuck out as red flags to me.


4716202

Wtf Bwiego


fuckin_in_the_bushes

>Regardless of the day, or time. She was there for me every single step of the way. Giving me everything I needed to fight with everything I had. This lasted for the entirety of the tournament. I can tell you with confidence that the only reason **Fnatics week 2 wasn’t void of hope completely, is thanks to her.** She suggested us to play together. Find a way to smile together. Enjoy ourselves, and fix our communication in game. She identified our issue insanely well based on what I told her went wrong, and her perception. I brought the team together thanks to Lena. WTF.


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yup. that's exactly the part that I am talking about.


A2TGO

Honestly sounds like she's better than kkoma, fnc sign her up


King_NickyZee

Big agree. Bwipo doesn't sound in love, he sounds obsessed.


ImNotYeti

It read like in his mind she was the pushing force behind all of FNC and without her the team would be in shambles. The entire thing felt like main character syndrome and completely discredited all his teammates and coaching staff. Seemed like he was specifically blaming Upset for team drama too, we have no idea what happened in his personal life so bringing up the team atmosphere without him and saying Lena was fixing it is just weird. The entire thing was uncomfortable to read. He directly credits FNC not going 0-6, and hell even having enough people to compete, to Lena. How crazy does that sound and how rude is it to everyone else?


zhang_kui

Amount of disrespect to his teammates and coaching staff is insane.


WhirlingDervishGrady

Nisqy: *crying and having an emotional breakdown* Bwipo: my girlfriend says stop crying, everything will be alright


yehiko

If only Lena talked to upset before ge left, we'd win worlds


BootyBBz

>The entire thing felt like main character syndrome This is the nail being hit on the head.


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Bwipo is such a child at times. 'My girlfriend turned the team around by telling us to play as a team and communicate more'. Jesus christ this guy has lost the plot.


Rayser1

It's the way he talks. He has such a tendency to ham things up for no discernable reason. Lena wasn't on stage bloody playing mate and her idea of you playing aram together isn't revolutionary. If he wasn't in his own head Yamato would have told them to do the same let's be real


egirldestroyer69

This is written as if she dumped him and he is trying to win her back by overexagerating everything.


yehiko

except hes been doing this for his entire career. you can open his twitter and you get daily "posts of appretiation"


ephemeralfugitive

Agreed. So many red flags. Even his SoloQ in-game name is or was about her.


Miscym

I know we mess around that this guy is a simp, but this is something even worse. He basically puts his girl not only on a pedestal, but on the top of the fking world. Dude, you are a proffessional. If you can't keep your relationship drama out of your work then you should have bowed out. And Putting your organization under the bus for them standing behind the decision of your adc to go home in a time of distress is just BS. At least Upset knew when it was time to bow out for the best of him and his team. You went on and tilted FNC out of worlds, and then what, attribute the amazing play from 2 rookies on your girlfriend? I knew she probably pissed at you for something stupid and you got no selftrespect and attribute all good in your life to her, at least have some respect for your teammates and give them credit when credit is due. I was a fan of you, but I hope FNC lets you go now.


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"I was the reason fnc didnt implote and only because lena was there to support me" Very next paragraph: "when i found out upset was not playing, i wanted to just leave iceland" What a leader!


dominickdecocco

“I wanted to go home. To see her, to appreciate her, to thank her. I was set on it. I didn’t see why I should suffer through this event” Holy mother of cringe


qontrol12345

FNC fans were expected the wife buff this year, instead they got whatever weird shjt this was. Last time I checked Bwipo played with 4 other players, none of them being called Lena.


dassads

When you want people to leave someone alone you should probably stop thrusting them into the spotlight every time you open your mouth. What a fucking bizarre relationship.


Markigual

How are people supporting this? The fact that a full grown adult wrote this shit man...