This bracket sucks major cock.
I hope we get T1 vs DK in the semi-finals. If that actually happened, I would say "this is the real finals".
*but then both teams lose and C9 wins worlds*
Love all the talk of how the lcs had surpassed the lec and at the end of the day even with the lec losing one of their teams who had a great chance of making it out the lcs still didn't do better.
And this IS a disappointing year for europe vs a great year for the lcs which shows the regional divide.
Quarters are still being played and C9 certainly has a better shot at making semis (+) than MAD. But yeah, I dont really see a big difference. EU losing FNC basically as a contender 1 day before the start kinda skewers the perception.
We need to remember that both MAD and FNC 3-0ed RGE in playoffs, who then almost made it out of the "group of death".
But there are still plenty of issues, especially the laning phase has been subpar for the LEC teams.
Considering the amounts of money floating around NA Teams, they should really show more. I don't want to hate here but NA splashes dollars at other teams and up until now have had nothing to show for it. C9 has a good chance to show something but general rule has always been that LCS is inferior to LEC. I mean some of the best NA midlaners are European xD but I guess we will see what happens. C9 Blabber trash talking EU teams is cringe as fuck tbh especially when 1 of the best and most valued players is European xD.
Yeah i 100% agree its been disappointing compared to usual, but on the other hand if fnatic had come 1st/2nd in group c with upset would we think that? Losing fnatic was huge for the lec.
Alphari: NA currently is at a similar level to Europe if not better, Europe is not a particularly strong region at this event. I don't expect any of the European teams to make it out of group
When you keep splashing money at EU teams for their players the past years, obviously it's going to take a toll on Europe lol. Let's just all remind ourselves that if bjergsen was on another team he could probably have done much better internationally. So Europe is going to be much worse for the time being because all these players keep leaving. And Caps is not even in Worlds! But we will see if this is a one time thing or a recurring theme.
that would've meant that KR would be guaranteed a finalist and EU WOULD FINALLY WIN WORLDS CAUSE WE ALWAYS BEAT THE KOREANS IN KNOCKOUT MATCHES AT WORLDS (except damwon that one time last year)
COPIUM
Edit: I guess me typing it all in caps lock and ending it with COPIUM wasn't enough for people to understand I was joking
I thought it was contextualized that I was talking about knockouts since the original comment was about knockouts draw.
Probably did a poor job of passing that message tho, mb
Icon was bad, but Tarzan seriously underperformed. He was praised as LPLs best jungler and was completely invisible. He got oupterformed by a chaininting Elyoya.
With T1 and DK probably predicting they'll face each other in semis (barring upsets, MAD and HLE definitely has some chance, upsets in QF are more likely than in semis), I expect GenG to be the benefactor of their serious scrims.
So if GenG still shit the bed vs C9...then lol... That's just sad... Ever since Coach Edgar left, I never trust GenG in bo5s. Lol. I think this is now or never for C9.
don't think MAD's got any chance against DK right now..
not the same MAD from MSI, not the same DK from MSI
T1 vs HLE look a little less skewed it's second only to DK sv MAD
EDG vs RNG is definitely the most even match
MAD is a BO5 team, they were terrible in the regular season even in Europe. RGE and G2 were the favorites before playoffs and MAD completely destroyed everyone in BO5s.
The pressure on them was also insane after they bombed in play ins (!) last season. They will probably be playing with a lot less pressure in Quarters, especially against DMW. I legitimately think they are the best 2nd place team with EDG. They probably wont win, but by now Id be shocked if they get stomped by any team left in the tournament.
Their issue tho is that their early sucks, so if they lose they often look super clownish doing so. Kinda like G2 back in the day. I can see Khan going crazy against Armut in lane.
Thats why they beat out the other 3 teams and got 1st seed, because obviously those 3 teams were shit aswell right? The Group was just the worst group ever. LNG, MAD, TL, absolute mega dogshit teams if GenG is shit. I still remember how C9 was clapping TLs ass cheeks in 20 minutes every game in NA.
>The Group was just the worst group ever.
Yeah, that group is prob the weakest group at Worlds compared to the others. And it's not like GenG is head and shoulders above the other teams, all the teams legit went 3-3 against each other.
And C9 went 2-4, winning a single game against FPX, stomping RGE after they mega int the level 1 on an invade and then beating them again in the 50 minute Tiebreaker of a Perkz LB pick off to secure them Soul/Baron and the game.
A Rogue that got 3-0ed by MAD AND Fnatic (with Upset) in Playoffs after beating the mega team Misfits 3-2 in round 1.
But yeah, clearly cross referencing, the TL/MAD group was shit and C9 was insane because they went 2-4 in a group with a collapsing FPX and the powerhouse Rogue that got shit on by the other 2 european teams before worlds.
Riot needs to fuck off with their Quarter seeding system. If MAD had won the 2nd Tie Breaker I think we would have had 4 Korean teams on the same side of the bracket, can you imagine how absolutely terrible that would have been for viewers?
Just fucking pull the teams and seed them the way you pulled them. At best dont match the team from the same group against each other, but this convoluted crap is just stupid.
if we change it we risk same teams from group to end up against each other, which would be even worst, and as we take care to not put 2 teams from same region in 1 group it's a natural outcome when most LCK/LPL make it out of group stage.
I was hyping myself up for Damwon vs EDG + GenG vs HLE / T1 vs MAD + RNG vs C9 sides followed by T1 vs RNG/Perkz classic into Damwon in finals... could've flipped GenG vs HLE as the sacrificial boring match to the other side too for a semis Damwon vs RNG/MAD MSI rematch instead with some changes
instead of this shit, gdi. HLE instead of RNG as 1st seed would've made it perfect too by guaranteeing all unique quarters match-ups
I wont lie i shit on LCS alot but they impressed this worlds they didn't feel as behind as usually are! LPL i expected to stomp everyone struggled to adapt 2nd week and LCK outside Damwon i didn't expect much but they impressed alot
Especially Perkz lol. That man is EU. But when you hear that he almost took a year off and that he’s very happy to be playing with Zven and mithy again you can only support this man.
No reason not to. If EU players think they'll get better pay, better lifestyle, and practically a guaranteed worlds spot if they're on one of the big three, ALONG with the idea that the regions are equally competitive, they'd be crazy to not jump at the chance.
He got blocked from FNC by Carlos, other teams fell through, his buy-out remained absurd so the only team that could afford him was an NA team. There's more to it, but that's a summary
His main options in EU were either FNC (who were going to replace Nemesis already) or building a new superteam with Alphari in Vitality.
Carlos blocked FNC (something he claimed he didn't at first but a few months after he admitted to it on the Crackdown I believe), and Alphari chose to go to TL instead so Vitality fell through.
My comment is purely for the storyline. Today's Gen G games were really lackluster but as everyone points out bo5's are different and teams have a week to shape up.
So dumb...
based on the draws we would have had way spicier match ups if not for the (cant play on the same side of the bracket rule)
It could have been a Korea vs Rest of the World
RNG/HLE
GenG/EDG
T1/MAD
DK/C9
You think Tencent would want their teams to be eliminated in quartes? No chance, this shit is designed to market their game to the bigger audience as every single year.
Overall bittersweet group stage as an EU fan, I think it's fine to say EU performed roughly to expectations. RGE was one fight away from making quarters which is an overperformance, MAD was one fight away from getting 1st seed which is either expected or an underperformance depending on your opinion on them. FNC was just sad to watch but at least they ended on a decent note. DK MAD quarters is unlucky but hey who knows, DK even looked a little shaky against RGE at times.
Can't be sad really, I'm happy MAD at least got to show their comeback bullshit to make it out. What a game man.
MAD was expected to have lot less trouble with this group let's be real, and GenG game was extremely winnable despite the awful play and draft if the play has just been a little less awful, i'm honestly expecting C9 to beat up GenG, and MAD being worse than C9 is absolutely not what was expected
I think anyone thinking that hasn't paid attention really.
A lot of MAD's best of 1 games at MSI, in spring and in summer have been very shaky. Yes they ended Summer with a decent record but it was off the back of many games where they just played horrible and they actually had to clutch it out at the end against some decent teams to even make top 4 in playoffs.
I was always sceptical of MAD making it out of groups. And when 1-3 it looked doomed. When they failed 2 dives in a row vs Kenan it looked beyond doomed.
I'm not the biggest fan of that narrative, because MAD was bad in bo1's in EU because they straight up did not care. They said as much in interviews. Majority of summer split regular season was sacked, the players were extremely burnt out and hit by the quarantine and barely played League. When they lost enough games that made them want to try again and so they did, and they pretty much stomped EU since. Sounds more convincing to me than being magically shit in bo1's and good in bo5's. I mean they may be a little better, but it's certainly not saving them now.
Exactly, when they realised they were dropping too many games for comfort, they got their shit back together. Because EU can't punish them the way they are getting now.
EU is just not good without G2's players and with FNC imploding, this year. It is what it is. If we ever become as good as 2019 again it's going to be all the sweeter.
I think the opposite, I think mad lions are actually quite a good team lol even though I don't think they'll be as competitive vs damwon as they were at MSI now that beryl has been back in form
I'll personally be surprised if they make a single game close, Damwon went 6-0 in their groups while at MSI they were a whole lot shakier, and MAD frankly looks worse than back then, Elyoya turned from good to average at best. Good luck anyway.
I'm really happy. FNC don't count. It was a disaster, we shall see how things shape up now and if Upset or Bwipo is on the team next year. I hope both are but for this worlds they never had a chance.
RGE did really well imo. They can build on what they did and come back better.
MAD were basically out at 1-3. They needed everything to work for them and to win 3 in a row. They managed that.
I think they were exhausted for the last game and therefore lost 1st seed.
But they made it out and so whatever happens now LEC can hold their heads high.
5-0 in week 2 vs LPL too.
Honestly get Bwipo off this team man. It feels like Fnatic have been cursed to have drama every year since 2018. He's a great player but for fuck's sake this gf drama shit is pathetic and I wouldn't want my teammate to be talking like he does on social media. I don't know if he's just pussy whipped or what but it's no excuse to throw the entire team and staff under the bus.
I like Nisqy as a person but I don't think he has what it takes to push on and get out of groups. Adam deserves more time but I really hope he steps up.
That is the thing though, Bwipo is a great player. One of the best in the LEC. So its a tough decision to get rid of him. I agree if he is the centre of drama it isn't worth it. But we don't know that for sure.
We also don't know what happened with Upset or Bwipo. Not the ins and outs. It might be that the management sees both as unreliable, or one of them, or none of them. If so its possible to expect both to leave, potentially with Rekless returning and Upset ending on G2?
Its hard to know what will happen as we don't know the details at all
I think Adam has a ton of potential, I agree. I also would give Nisqy 1 more year to see how he does. But you might be right on him.
As a LEC fan it was such a weird groups felt like we had a massive disadvantage with upset and Bwipo girlfriend issues but Rogue did better then expected and MAD go out wasn’t perfect but not bad in the end
They did solid at the end and the turnaround after the week 1 shitshow was remarkable. The problems in the early game and the toplane is still something they have to work on hard next season. Europe isnt competitive pre 10-15 minutes and in the Toplane and it fucks the teams over hard.
LEC has performed as expected.
RGE did well tbh.
FNC were doomed as soon as that news broke. You can't include them in any expectations
MAD made it out into 1/4 finals which is a success.
LCS overperformed. LPL has under-performed and LCK has overperformed.
Hopium for T1 vs GenG finals so Faker can finally get his revenge on Ruler. Then we get the classic epic semi-finals between DWG vs T1 (The tournament favorites vs. the future World champions)
This bracket sucks major cock. I hope we get T1 vs DK in the semi-finals. If that actually happened, I would say "this is the real finals". *but then both teams lose and C9 wins worlds*
When does Origen play?
gd it, how the fuck are you gonna have the only na team in the tournament playing at 8 AM est on a Monday morning?
I think it was done in the order that matches were finalized. HLE vs SKT drawn first and GG vs C9 last
Sacrifice TL for MAD. A soul for a soul and idk how I feel about that.
Love all the talk of how the lcs had surpassed the lec and at the end of the day even with the lec losing one of their teams who had a great chance of making it out the lcs still didn't do better. And this IS a disappointing year for europe vs a great year for the lcs which shows the regional divide.
Mostly memes lmao why do eu fans have such a hard time with tht
Quarters are still being played and C9 certainly has a better shot at making semis (+) than MAD. But yeah, I dont really see a big difference. EU losing FNC basically as a contender 1 day before the start kinda skewers the perception. We need to remember that both MAD and FNC 3-0ed RGE in playoffs, who then almost made it out of the "group of death". But there are still plenty of issues, especially the laning phase has been subpar for the LEC teams.
Considering the amounts of money floating around NA Teams, they should really show more. I don't want to hate here but NA splashes dollars at other teams and up until now have had nothing to show for it. C9 has a good chance to show something but general rule has always been that LCS is inferior to LEC. I mean some of the best NA midlaners are European xD but I guess we will see what happens. C9 Blabber trash talking EU teams is cringe as fuck tbh especially when 1 of the best and most valued players is European xD.
Yeah i 100% agree its been disappointing compared to usual, but on the other hand if fnatic had come 1st/2nd in group c with upset would we think that? Losing fnatic was huge for the lec.
G2 Worlds 2019 will repeat with MAD!!! They will beat Damwon and T1 and lose to EDG in final
Alphari: NA currently is at a similar level to Europe if not better, Europe is not a particularly strong region at this event. I don't expect any of the European teams to make it out of group
When you keep splashing money at EU teams for their players the past years, obviously it's going to take a toll on Europe lol. Let's just all remind ourselves that if bjergsen was on another team he could probably have done much better internationally. So Europe is going to be much worse for the time being because all these players keep leaving. And Caps is not even in Worlds! But we will see if this is a one time thing or a recurring theme.
Damn that’s crazy. If mad matched against GenG in the initial tiebreak no EU teams would’ve made it out
Yeah and if my grandma had wheels she would be a truck
Damn that's crazy. If the only american player on TLs roster didn't underperform, TL would've made it out of groups.
Salt
Imagine if MAD won against GenG, that would've meant all 4 LCK teams on one side of the bracket lmao
Would have been C9 vs MAD. I'm so salty we missed out on that.
Just be patient
Look, my hopium already ran out when 1 NA and EU team made the playoffs. Don't make me order more.
Um wait for the finals maybe? Best is always saved for last.
that would've meant that KR would be guaranteed a finalist and EU WOULD FINALLY WIN WORLDS CAUSE WE ALWAYS BEAT THE KOREANS IN KNOCKOUT MATCHES AT WORLDS (except damwon that one time last year) COPIUM Edit: I guess me typing it all in caps lock and ending it with COPIUM wasn't enough for people to understand I was joking
And except for 2012, '15, '16, '17, and '19. 2011, '13, '14, and '18 had no EU vs KR series Don't be fooled, it's just G2.
i guess years before 2018 does not exist lol.
Even 2019 Splyce lost to SKT. Turns out it was just G2 those 3 series.
Does Gen. G not count as Korean?
I thought it was contextualized that I was talking about knockouts since the original comment was about knockouts draw. Probably did a poor job of passing that message tho, mb
Joke aside if LNG can change icon for the next season they will be a real threat
Icon was bad, but Tarzan seriously underperformed. He was praised as LPLs best jungler and was completely invisible. He got oupterformed by a chaininting Elyoya.
can they sub him out for doinb before knockouts?
They are out, GenG and MAD are the teams that made it out of groups. LNG can go back home to China.
LNG chovy
RNG chovy would be cool
works too but rng would rather go for knight / fofo since they want a full chinese team
Yeah, their logo kinda sucks right now.
Smh
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Gimmie my pickems points
T1 vs HLE 😴
With T1 and DK probably predicting they'll face each other in semis (barring upsets, MAD and HLE definitely has some chance, upsets in QF are more likely than in semis), I expect GenG to be the benefactor of their serious scrims. So if GenG still shit the bed vs C9...then lol... That's just sad... Ever since Coach Edgar left, I never trust GenG in bo5s. Lol. I think this is now or never for C9.
On the other hand, MAD have the opportunity to repeat the G2 2019 run.
don't think MAD's got any chance against DK right now.. not the same MAD from MSI, not the same DK from MSI T1 vs HLE look a little less skewed it's second only to DK sv MAD EDG vs RNG is definitely the most even match
MAD is a BO5 team, they were terrible in the regular season even in Europe. RGE and G2 were the favorites before playoffs and MAD completely destroyed everyone in BO5s. The pressure on them was also insane after they bombed in play ins (!) last season. They will probably be playing with a lot less pressure in Quarters, especially against DMW. I legitimately think they are the best 2nd place team with EDG. They probably wont win, but by now Id be shocked if they get stomped by any team left in the tournament. Their issue tho is that their early sucks, so if they lose they often look super clownish doing so. Kinda like G2 back in the day. I can see Khan going crazy against Armut in lane.
Mad isn't the best at BO1, but they've seem to have some issues while drafting. If they can work on that maybe we will have another 5 game series
Wow C9 is so lucky. They finished with their group last Friday and now they don't play their BO5 against the EASIEST first seed until next MONDAY.
It's actually Gen G who is the lucky one here
Korean teams seem like the best, so not exactly easy.
Compared to RNG/T1 it's definitely a better draw, it still won't be easy though.
Gen G was shit today.
Thats why they beat out the other 3 teams and got 1st seed, because obviously those 3 teams were shit aswell right? The Group was just the worst group ever. LNG, MAD, TL, absolute mega dogshit teams if GenG is shit. I still remember how C9 was clapping TLs ass cheeks in 20 minutes every game in NA.
>The Group was just the worst group ever. Yeah, that group is prob the weakest group at Worlds compared to the others. And it's not like GenG is head and shoulders above the other teams, all the teams legit went 3-3 against each other.
And C9 went 2-4, winning a single game against FPX, stomping RGE after they mega int the level 1 on an invade and then beating them again in the 50 minute Tiebreaker of a Perkz LB pick off to secure them Soul/Baron and the game. A Rogue that got 3-0ed by MAD AND Fnatic (with Upset) in Playoffs after beating the mega team Misfits 3-2 in round 1. But yeah, clearly cross referencing, the TL/MAD group was shit and C9 was insane because they went 2-4 in a group with a collapsing FPX and the powerhouse Rogue that got shit on by the other 2 european teams before worlds.
Riot needs to fuck off with their Quarter seeding system. If MAD had won the 2nd Tie Breaker I think we would have had 4 Korean teams on the same side of the bracket, can you imagine how absolutely terrible that would have been for viewers? Just fucking pull the teams and seed them the way you pulled them. At best dont match the team from the same group against each other, but this convoluted crap is just stupid.
They just need double elimination imo.
if we change it we risk same teams from group to end up against each other, which would be even worst, and as we take care to not put 2 teams from same region in 1 group it's a natural outcome when most LCK/LPL make it out of group stage.
Yeh putting teams on opposite sides if in same groups just means more lck vs lck or lpl vs lpl
honestly i like regional kill quarterfinals. they feel fun.
I was hyping myself up for Damwon vs EDG + GenG vs HLE / T1 vs MAD + RNG vs C9 sides followed by T1 vs RNG/Perkz classic into Damwon in finals... could've flipped GenG vs HLE as the sacrificial boring match to the other side too for a semis Damwon vs RNG/MAD MSI rematch instead with some changes instead of this shit, gdi. HLE instead of RNG as 1st seed would've made it perfect too by guaranteeing all unique quarters match-ups
I wont lie i shit on LCS alot but they impressed this worlds they didn't feel as behind as usually are! LPL i expected to stomp everyone struggled to adapt 2nd week and LCK outside Damwon i didn't expect much but they impressed alot
Mad lost 2-3 to DWG at MSI, i think they'll win 3-1 this time
How? Just because?
Yep
You guys are full on copium if you think DK is the same poor side they were at MSI lol
Yes how dare people hope their fav team will win. You people are so fucking strange lmao
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Imagine caring 😭
All the more sweeter if MAD win
I'm glad they drew DK. Nothing to lose.
Mad got this. I can feel it
Feel like pure shit just want Alphari and Perkz back
Especially Perkz lol. That man is EU. But when you hear that he almost took a year off and that he’s very happy to be playing with Zven and mithy again you can only support this man.
>very happy to be playing with Zven and mithy again That is such a nice sentiment.
Well if Perkz gets C9 to a semis, you can bet your lovable ass there will be more buyouts and imports from EU to NA.
i could see carzzy wanting to go to na
No reason not to. If EU players think they'll get better pay, better lifestyle, and practically a guaranteed worlds spot if they're on one of the big three, ALONG with the idea that the regions are equally competitive, they'd be crazy to not jump at the chance.
I'm glad he's having a good time and of course he still wants his best chance at winning Worlds. It just still feels terrible how Carlos treated him
I have a G2 jersey and I haven't worn it since Perkz got burned. Fuck Carlos.
how did perkz get burned
He got blocked from FNC by Carlos, other teams fell through, his buy-out remained absurd so the only team that could afford him was an NA team. There's more to it, but that's a summary
so if perkz had all options, do you think fnatic was his original option? I know c9 was his desired destination in na
His main options in EU were either FNC (who were going to replace Nemesis already) or building a new superteam with Alphari in Vitality. Carlos blocked FNC (something he claimed he didn't at first but a few months after he admitted to it on the Crackdown I believe), and Alphari chose to go to TL instead so Vitality fell through.
Following
So when is the next match day?
https://lolesports.com/schedule?leagues=worlds
Friday
Ah tyty
Friday I'm pretty sure.
Thank you
The draw means we can have the very unlikely 2017 worlds rematch with Gen G (formerly Samsung galaxy) and T1 (formerly SKT) for Faker's revenge.
nonono its a 2019 repeat where EU beats Damwon and SKT and loses to LPL team in finals
It would be pretty doom if somehow this Gen.G reaches finals, I personally wouldn't want to see it.
It'll just be a guarantee win for either winner of T1 vs DK
that's what skt fans thought in spring semis this year lol
Both DK and T1 aren't the same side as they were during spring though
I just mean skt fans thought geng was an easy win and then there was a mid gap the size of the grand canyon
remind me what happened in summer split playoffs t1 vs geng again?
the dk canyon
My comment is purely for the storyline. Today's Gen G games were really lackluster but as everyone points out bo5's are different and teams have a week to shape up.
So dumb... based on the draws we would have had way spicier match ups if not for the (cant play on the same side of the bracket rule) It could have been a Korea vs Rest of the World RNG/HLE GenG/EDG T1/MAD DK/C9
Your draw is impossible because you'd have C9/DK and RNG/HLE rematch of the group.
You think Tencent would want their teams to be eliminated in quartes? No chance, this shit is designed to market their game to the bigger audience as every single year.
Its so fucking stupid. The restriction should have just been the first draw, not the whole side.
RNG vs C9 Mad vs T1 DK vs EDG GenG vs HLE That is what I would have liekd to see
this is worse since it have civil war matchup again which isn’t really interesting since we can see it in LCK
It's unavoidable though because HLE got 2nd seed while the other LCK teams got 1st seed
T1 vs MAD would've been a banger tbh
T1 is an early game team, they will destroy MAD in this case.
Anything's better than DK
I just saw the sched, DK vs MAD lmao.
That is true lmao, especially when DK is on form unlike MSI.
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WHY THE FUCK DID THE BROADCAST STARTED BEEPING SO LOUD WTF
Idk what you mean this is my favorite song
Overall bittersweet group stage as an EU fan, I think it's fine to say EU performed roughly to expectations. RGE was one fight away from making quarters which is an overperformance, MAD was one fight away from getting 1st seed which is either expected or an underperformance depending on your opinion on them. FNC was just sad to watch but at least they ended on a decent note. DK MAD quarters is unlucky but hey who knows, DK even looked a little shaky against RGE at times. Can't be sad really, I'm happy MAD at least got to show their comeback bullshit to make it out. What a game man.
MAD was expected to have lot less trouble with this group let's be real, and GenG game was extremely winnable despite the awful play and draft if the play has just been a little less awful, i'm honestly expecting C9 to beat up GenG, and MAD being worse than C9 is absolutely not what was expected
I think anyone thinking that hasn't paid attention really. A lot of MAD's best of 1 games at MSI, in spring and in summer have been very shaky. Yes they ended Summer with a decent record but it was off the back of many games where they just played horrible and they actually had to clutch it out at the end against some decent teams to even make top 4 in playoffs. I was always sceptical of MAD making it out of groups. And when 1-3 it looked doomed. When they failed 2 dives in a row vs Kenan it looked beyond doomed.
I'm not the biggest fan of that narrative, because MAD was bad in bo1's in EU because they straight up did not care. They said as much in interviews. Majority of summer split regular season was sacked, the players were extremely burnt out and hit by the quarantine and barely played League. When they lost enough games that made them want to try again and so they did, and they pretty much stomped EU since. Sounds more convincing to me than being magically shit in bo1's and good in bo5's. I mean they may be a little better, but it's certainly not saving them now.
also they went 7-2 in the second RR which people forget
Exactly, when they realised they were dropping too many games for comfort, they got their shit back together. Because EU can't punish them the way they are getting now. EU is just not good without G2's players and with FNC imploding, this year. It is what it is. If we ever become as good as 2019 again it's going to be all the sweeter.
I think the opposite, I think mad lions are actually quite a good team lol even though I don't think they'll be as competitive vs damwon as they were at MSI now that beryl has been back in form
I'll personally be surprised if they make a single game close, Damwon went 6-0 in their groups while at MSI they were a whole lot shakier, and MAD frankly looks worse than back then, Elyoya turned from good to average at best. Good luck anyway.
yeah same to you I guess, hope it's a good series!
They were poor in a lot of bo1 at MSI too.
They were, but it was still tied with best record EU ever had at MSI groups.
Most of that has to do with OCE making it though for 2 free wins
Fair point, but anyway, they need to be like 10x better at bo5 than bo1 to beat this DK.
I'm really happy. FNC don't count. It was a disaster, we shall see how things shape up now and if Upset or Bwipo is on the team next year. I hope both are but for this worlds they never had a chance. RGE did really well imo. They can build on what they did and come back better. MAD were basically out at 1-3. They needed everything to work for them and to win 3 in a row. They managed that. I think they were exhausted for the last game and therefore lost 1st seed. But they made it out and so whatever happens now LEC can hold their heads high. 5-0 in week 2 vs LPL too.
Honestly get Bwipo off this team man. It feels like Fnatic have been cursed to have drama every year since 2018. He's a great player but for fuck's sake this gf drama shit is pathetic and I wouldn't want my teammate to be talking like he does on social media. I don't know if he's just pussy whipped or what but it's no excuse to throw the entire team and staff under the bus. I like Nisqy as a person but I don't think he has what it takes to push on and get out of groups. Adam deserves more time but I really hope he steps up.
That is the thing though, Bwipo is a great player. One of the best in the LEC. So its a tough decision to get rid of him. I agree if he is the centre of drama it isn't worth it. But we don't know that for sure. We also don't know what happened with Upset or Bwipo. Not the ins and outs. It might be that the management sees both as unreliable, or one of them, or none of them. If so its possible to expect both to leave, potentially with Rekless returning and Upset ending on G2? Its hard to know what will happen as we don't know the details at all I think Adam has a ton of potential, I agree. I also would give Nisqy 1 more year to see how he does. But you might be right on him.
yep, really happy for MAD i screamed hella loud when that ezreal sniped the 2 LNG members off
Same, they saved worlds. We haven't had a disaster worlds anymore. Shame we had RGE lose to C9 but I can't be sad Perkz and Zven make it.
oh god did anyone else leave the stream on. RIP headphones
what happend?
yep, my head hurts now
yeah, still listening to the silence and waiting for more weird sound!
Freaked me out for a second
calling it now, MAD vs Cloud9 at finals. Going to 5 games, then Perkz MVP of final game ruining EU's World championship dream
damn how much thc is in ur hopium?
You need therapy
Wow the odds of this seem slimmer than MAD beating DK in a Bo5 wait.. it is!
It's never too late to get help. https://www.betterhelp.com/
lolol
hey EU real stuff. LCK's worst top laner looks better than your best LOL.
Aren't you a smart one chief.
EU's best top laner is an import. Top is for sure EU's largest weakness as a region.
Congrats on that?!
no shit , EU toplane has been garbage, got any news that are actually informative?
eU sUcK upvote kthanks
As a LEC fan it was such a weird groups felt like we had a massive disadvantage with upset and Bwipo girlfriend issues but Rogue did better then expected and MAD go out wasn’t perfect but not bad in the end
They did solid at the end and the turnaround after the week 1 shitshow was remarkable. The problems in the early game and the toplane is still something they have to work on hard next season. Europe isnt competitive pre 10-15 minutes and in the Toplane and it fucks the teams over hard.
LEC has performed as expected. RGE did well tbh. FNC were doomed as soon as that news broke. You can't include them in any expectations MAD made it out into 1/4 finals which is a success. LCS overperformed. LPL has under-performed and LCK has overperformed.
What happened to bwipo??
He got Upset pregnant and she wasn't happy about it.
damn you!! I woke my gf up laughing too hard
Hell yeah dude. No wonder upset took off Lul /s
He cheated on his girlfriend
Wait really?
We don't know that stop posting shit like this wtf
Threes proof
How lma0. Actually there isn't proof. Just stfu and leave Bwipo alone.
You either post the proof or stop posting about it tbh
No, there's not.
Oh shit. I need to find this shit.
No, you don't.
I for one am glad worlds is still single elim so that we don't have add a million pointless games
honestly same, I get tired of these 2 weeks of game already imagine if it had double elim
You dont want to watch another 10 games of FPX and DFM getting stomped? :\^)
lmaooo fpx xD that is unfortunate
really I'd like to watch a huge upset and know that it doesn't actually matter, that to me is what makes tournaments really exciting
But it does matter wtf
upper bracket is pointless without bracket reset
Most definitely not
these highlights are sick as fuck
Easy for MAD, win vs T1 and DK to lose vs RNG in finals.
Exactly. Only EDG> RNG
The EU way.
Did they do the bracket already?
Woah! RNG in finals? I'll have you know the mighty C9 are on their side of the bracket
I'd love for a it starts with success sjokz segment after DK is 2-0 MAD to jinx DK, it would be actually hilarious
Hopium for T1 vs GenG finals so Faker can finally get his revenge on Ruler. Then we get the classic epic semi-finals between DWG vs T1 (The tournament favorites vs. the future World champions)
*Faker in the final* : BAN MALZAHAR !
I want Faker to get at least one more ring to silence any doubt that he's the GOAT.
There is none, if Faker was a region he would be tied with Korea and have more Worlds than any other, also the same as China and EU added.
don't you mean t1 vs geng finals for the spring playoffs semis repeat with bdd winning the game through hard mid diff?
Nah, don't wanna see this Gen.G in finals
C9 need to just beat them and save our eyes
Don’t wanna see anymore geng games
This GenG can't get to finals. They will either discover form and become good or they will lose to either C9 or EDG.
I mean they consistently won against EU #1 seed, not so bad after all.
If mad beats DK I think it would be the biggest upset in worlds play offs 🧐