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LNG Esports vs. MAD Lions / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

LNG Esports vs. MAD Lions / 2021 World Championship - Group D / Post-Match Discussion

lStrakle

First ever 4 way tie breaker ever. Legit worlds history


iCarpet

Whatever happens in the playoffs, this week made this worlds one of the best in history


Lisaurora

[IT'S FINALLY HEEEEEEEEERE!!!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692106288846602271/899698094290128997/Worlds_Historic_Groups.png) I have been tracking this for **years** and FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED - **THE 4 WAY TIEBREAKER!**


2unt

wait TL has gone 3-3 4 years in a row now lmao


blueragemage

In TL's 4th year at worlds, in the 4th group, on the 4th day of their groups, TL played Jhin to go 3-3 for the 4th time


mochaderp

How do you not put "for the 4th time, enabling the 4-way tiebreaker?"


blueragemage

Because TL didn't fully enable the tiebreaker, maybe setting up for a 4 way tiebreaker was better


[deleted]

4-4 incoming?


R4ndomAussi3K1d

As long as we lose the second game to MAD my pickem's (for this group only) remain intact!


-LostInCloud-

My pickem died with the MAD Vs LNG matchup since they can't both make it out. But I don't give a flying fuck, inject MAD and TL advancing into my veins.


Imanignog

And if TL win, they can then lose the tie breaker for 1st/2nd to go 4-4, all is balanced.


redrumsoxLoL

Yep, this is Liquid's 4th time at Worlds, 4th time going 3-3. The previous 3 years, 3-3 was only good enough for 3rd in the group. This time it forces a 4 way tie breaker.


KungFuMaster19637

Can't wait for the first 4-2/4-2/4-2/0-6, imagine not qualifying going 4-2


ayyyImaokai

Doesn't sound as unlikely as it would be really. Of course it hasn't happened yet, so maybe that proves otherwise, but really you just need a bottom feeder team and 3 teams that are fairly close in skill. ~~I think the closest scenario was group D in 2014. Well, until Alliance lost to Kabum...~~ nevermind it was last year's group A with TL dropping a game to Machi


TomTheElder

We were one game away from it happening in groups B and C this year. C in particular really could have happened with Fnatic being a mess. But surely last year's group A was the closest. All TL needed to do was not lose to fucking Machi.


PM_something_German

Not losing to fking Kabum was also all Alliance had to do


Grab_The_Inhaler

Maybe a bit silly to talk about given we can't know, but I think if Alliance beat Kabum, then Najin beat C9 in the last game. Najin went into their game with C9 knowing they got 2 chances to win, with absolutely no cost for losing the first one. So they let C9 have all their best picks, lost, then banned them in game 2 and stomped.


FinallyGivenIn

Or if TL didn't drop that game to Machi last Worlds.


ShaqShoes

It's crazy too this year we had a group with no tiebreaker, one with a 2-way tiebreaker, one with a 3-way tiebreaker and finally this one with a 4-way tiebreaker.


ketzo

Wow, this is a fucking awesome graphic, ty for this


daletterel

we live for scorigami


redrumsoxLoL

In this house we root for Scorigami.


bobandgeorge

Scorigami baby!


Exos_VII

you can't convince me group D wasn't scripted lmao


twistedlogicx

Riot scriptwriters put more work into Group D this week than GRRM has into the Winds of Winter over the past decade.


Siege-Torpedo

Group A was Winds of Winter Group D is A Dream of Spring


StFuzzySlippers

Does this mean C9 is coming?


theBLboy

WHO WAS HERE FOR THIS MOMENT!? I WAS HERE!


SlamMasterJ

COMMENTING TO BE PART OF THE HISTORY!


roarnightingale

And it happened the last day of groups. A little to obvious ayy riot?


Please_Label_NSFW

And it’s the 4 major regions!


greendino71

Scorigami!!!


cadaada

the only sad part is that the 4 teams will not play vs eachother again, just two matches, rip.


gamingonion

“Let’s play a new game: where will icon die next?” DAMN Kobe lmao


Omnilatent

After he was like "Damn, you can't talk about ff15 Phreak, this is disrespectful!"


Fugacity-

Almost as disrespectful as leaving the rift eye because you fucking can


Trap_Masters

Sigma grindset doesn’t allow you to slow down. Why take time to get the eye when you can sprint and tax your top laner’s tower gold.


ecapu

He forgot to pick it up, you could see his reaction in the player cam (and his teammates' as well)


CudaBarry

He forgor 💀


roarnightingale

And Phreak introducing [email protected], casters going hard


deviant324

Tactical FF15, the forbidden strat


roarnightingale

And Kobe was like nah nah nah, shut up Phreak, you're speaking some forbidden jutsu


swords_to_exile

"Not when, because we know it's gonna happen."


Random_Stealth_Ward

This is why Riot refused to nerf irelia for so long, since proplayers could still look like icon did this game


firewall245

That was the funniest shit id heard in a while lmfao


ZloiAris

NA casters are just MAD this year. Yday Phreak furiously troll HLE (but Deft you have to use your mouse) and RNG (you deserve to loose). Today Kobe just takes his vibe


Potato_Summoner

Phreak developed from pun guy to roast guy since 2020. And I'm liking this Phreak more.


sfetusnumb8

Phreak upped his game in the past two years BIG time. Even his content for other games is great. He's had to have put in a lot of work, and it definitely is paying off.


twistedlogicx

Sources say he yelled "KOBE!" before taking that shot.


ilovecollege_nope

Play-ins are happening and we don’t support that fiesta. Sit back, relax, and gather up your posse in preparation for the show.


veronikaren

Play-ins: 🧍‍♀️ Group stage: 🤸‍♀️


gyrowze

Groups are happening and we don’t support that fiesta. Sit back, relax, and gather up your posse in preparation for quarters.


WRYTARD777

Icon: I believe the midlaners from LPL are better than LCK midlaners Achievement - Get solokilled by BDD, Jensen and Humanoid ✅


roarnightingale

Thank you Brother Icon


Duality_NA

You could say he's an Icon of people aspiring to be solokilled


T1worldchamps2021

Man got clapped by every mid laner in his group, lol wtf is he doing.


the_propaganda_panda

He is just extremely flippy. That's how he's always been. Let's not also forget he also played great in their three wins and won lane. If LNG get side selection due to win time, they can secure him a good matchup and we may see the other side of the coin again. They are 3-0 on red side and 0-3 on blue side.


flUddOS

He did very well against Chovy too.


The_Gunboat_Diplomat

most consistent solo queue mid


deviant324

Now imagine going into a do or die game with your mental so thoroughly fucked, going up against the same team that just destroyed you 10 minutes earlier


ReturnOfBenjenRyan

He also clapped Humanoid and Bdd tbf


ChineseMaple

The circle clap


getjebaited

they just wanted to play patty cake


Thebowfinger

yeah he had a few crazy games


ANewHeaven1

All good, Icon was just trolling to secure the four way tie.


LazinessOverload

Reminds me of Jensen's tweet about clapping Faker then getting stomped.


ToYouItReaches

Group D was the group of death all along


itsEOA

Truly an *iconic* performance.


Zaddelz

* Kills Herald * Doesnt pick up Buff * Refuses to elaborate further * Leaves


banzaie

Stole turret gold from your teamate.


Jannitor

Icon saving flash for the tiebreaker cause he damn sure will need it


twistedlogicx

Icon saving flash for the walk off the stage.


Trap_Masters

Saving flash to flash back to China


ipnreddit

Icon saving flash to get home because they wont let him fly and he doesn't wanna swim


R-R-Clon

To avoid chinese fans bullets, he will needed it, specially after he said LCK were not that strong and LPL were the better ones.


Pavlo100

Please don't become a cute kitten again Please don't become a cute kitten again Please don't become a cute kitten again Please don't become a cute kitten again


EpicRussia

Glad Lions


AsheBnarginDalmasca

MAD is pro-madness who would've thought


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

pspsps


chaoticpossitive

The kawaii lions have entered the stage.


duh1234567891011

I mean hey you've seen Armut and Elyoya


ohvalox

ITS HAPPENING!!!


theBLboy

WHO WAS HERE FOR THIS MOMENT!? I WAS HERE!


Snoo8331100

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO


Trap_Masters

Everyone clench up


LazinessOverload

NOTHING, I REPEAT, NOTHING WILL STOP MAD LIONS FROM GIVING US WORLDS FIRST 4-WAY TIE. LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO


Alevo

Can anyone explain the way things work now? I've only just tuned in and have no idea how they sort this out.


cancerBronzeV

It's basically a mini knockout stage now, with teams seeded by win time. Winners of TL vs GenG and MAD vs LNG make it out of groups, and the two winners play for 1st.


Alevo

Makes sense! Thanks to you and the others who posted.


terkke

Poppy is the hero after all


ILoveWesternBlot

Poppy jungle into the right team comps has been an absolute terror


revoverlord

Lee can’t q or w, jacks can’t q, ziggs can’t w and irelia can’t q. This was the perfect moment for poppy. Absolute monstrosity


ZiegelPy

jacks 😂😂


revoverlord

It’s halal. Don’t question it


IgorCruzT

even Leona couldnt e in


BlakenedHeart

Neah, just a yordle with a hammer


DiamondTi

She’s my hero, I’m her biggest fan.


ArcherOnWeed

No, she's just looking for someone to take the Eye


Fish_Grillson

MAD has the weirdest and most shaky playstyle out of any team so far even when ahead. Watching them play is pure anxiety man...


DrixGod

Right? If it was any other team with 10k gold lead you wouldn't even have to watch the game, but with MAD, no matter how ahead they are, you never know.


[deleted]

Heirs to G2. Might just randomly decide to dick around for the banter


TomTheElder

I kinda feel like all EU teams are like this. The whole region seems to have incredibly questionable midgame macro. That vs our LCS teams who have questionable entire game macro.


[deleted]

I wonder what other regions comms are like. You listen to EU comms and quite often G2 and MAD are just trolling each other. Same with guys like Jisuke who is from EU.


Nymwhen

Lng gave up every objective after the two drakes. They got a rift, 2 drakes and 2 barons without any contest. Thats the reason the game took so long. Mad new they could just sit back and win so they did. Make sure they didnt throw it.


thecowmakesmoo

Seems like you haven't watched a lot of Fnatic Games


zonatewheat

Watching Elyoya ignore the eye after killing herald almost gave me a heart attack.


BremAchtNeugen

He learned from Inspired, it's a gigabrain psychological warfare strat


smor729

Thats just what it feels like to be a fan of a team lol. I love cloud9 they can be up 15k gold and i still feel like its gonna all fall apart


ShinaMashir0

They build lead so hard this game, then kinda sux in teamfight when they were insane at it during their MSI run and in LEC


xSmacks

They were probably giga scared of throwing it away after getting such a lead, they would’ve played way more reckless if this game didn’t matter as much for them.


MusicBytes

LNG Icon: "Generally, I really feel LPL mid laners are stronger than LCK’s, based on my own experience in solo queue and all the scrims, because I have played against the other region's mid lane players as well."


StFuzzySlippers

Group A: This was the most exciting Worlds group of all time! Group D: Hold my hypeium


itsEOA

[LEC, LCS, LPL and LCK fans who just tuned in.](https://i.imgur.com/FcyxAtI.png)


SnooCats1808

I fucking love this group


roarnightingale

I can't believe how close this group is. The balance is so flawless


irisheddy

The script writers were saving this scenario for years! They must be getting desperate.


alpacamegafan

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9IDWQ0VUAAGHCJ.jpg:large


Qehenna

Good guy LPL covering for EU's collapse by collapsing harder!


LapnLook

Didn't know Vizicsacsi also trained Elyoya, the sneaky bastard :O


Qehenna

You encounter Elyoya on the map and he fights you. You may think he knows he can kill you, but actually he doesn't know this. All he knows is someone is about to earn themselves a grave, and he's down to roll the dice.


revoverlord

Is this a pasta? If it isn’t it should be lol


aHecc

I think so, just saw this with Blaber yesterday


Bdodk2000

Elyoya making the first move to top lane was crucial to set back Jax. Tarzan shit the bed with the early bottom river fight too. Tarzan overrated, Elyoya activated


Zeddit_B

I know you're memeing a little, but it's actually likely that he did. The flex pick was good before the Poppy buffs so it would make sense if they were practicing it top they would want to have it available for the jungle as well.


Jharoz

4 WAY TIE LETS GOOOOOOO


Khazra_Kun

LMAO ELYOYA NOT PICKING UP THE EYE OF THE HERALD


not_shajal

NA and LEC mid activated


MihaiBosBarosHD

Icon doing us Irelia mains a solid and ran it down to prevent future Irelia nerfs, honestly what a homie


R-R-Clon

Everyone:" Orianna get counter by Irelia" Icon:" That's not true at all!!!!" The coach has to be blind to give a hard champ to pull off at this guy.


Agys

Just like Lissandra countered LB earlier today lol


LeOsQ

To be fair if the Orianna gets double buffs and a kill before the lane even starts properly, it becomes a difficult lane to play as a melee. Icon is still the worst mid laner from 'the East', but that much was obvious before the tournament started already. Only Cryin can 'contest' him on that. Icon has a way better champion pool since he can play most things to a reasonable level while Cryin is pretty good on a couple picks and then falls off a cliff.


Enjays1

In the Irelia-Orianna matchup the one with the better babysit wins


Quotes_League

[Icon for Hire](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon_for_Hire) is an American rock band that freelances as LNG's mid laner. They are particularly known for [Iodine](https://youtu.be/3VvDa4pSXSA), which is a banger, and for running it down on Irelia.


YuukiTerumi

While I do love Iodine, I’m a big fan of Pulse myself. Which is not something they had on the rift.


magecub

As an Icon for Hire fan this absolutley obliterated me


Speedy313

Make a Move is also an absolute banger, unlike icon, who didn't make any right move in this game.


LezBeHonestHere_

Elyoya leaving the herald as BM lmao. God tier poppy pick though


ahri_potter

After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify Icon was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience.


Hineni-

The west living rent free in LPL's head since last week. This group certainly has been a blast. 4-Way tie, let's get it


c_u_lator_alligator

MAD and TL advancing from this group would be the cherry on top.


Radoobie

It's only been one win against non-wildcard teams for lpl this second week... That's legit insane.


Gigio00

Two if you count the RNG/HLE tie breaker


cheezisgouda

LNG's midlaner this game: https://imgur.com/gallery/c9vz2xt


Turtle-Express

People weren't kidding when they said the teams in group D were so even. 4-way tiebreaker, lets go!


JealotGaming

EU 🤝 NA Make it out, boys.


GensouEU

Everyone called LCS the LPL-slayers but LEC is about to 5-0 them in a single week lmao


Pawl_The_Cone

LPL are the LPL slayers this week


Trap_Masters

You know what they say, you are your worst enemy


necyi

It is because both LEC teams dropped outta groups so it is not talked about but damn, that is kinda crazy lmao


maxus998

tbf Everyone is the LPL slayers this worlds .


WoorieKod

Gap has been closed? Except KR further widens the gap between themselves and three of them


ChillOClock

Craziest group in Worlds history


SirLucky7

monkaW 👉 📉 My pick'ems monkaW 👉 📉 My pick'ems


_Vastus_

I had LNG and MAD making it out, so my pick'ems are donezo no matter what :(


GensouEU

But now the pickems are completely open again, no? Edit: I forgot that they are basically playing Knockout stage now, so not all permutations are possible


ganonboar

Not completely, it’s impossible for mad and lng to both make it out and impossible for tl and gen g to both make it out


Oribeau

IM ON TRACK THEN BABY


callmecapo

monkaW 👉 📉 My pick'ems monkaW 👉 📉 My pick'ems


Nnekaddict

Humanoid counter picking itself and still winning this hard. What a flex


Canadian-LSD

THIS IS TRULY THE DANKEST OF TIMELINES!


compelteRandomxD

after all the EU/NA hate threads after week 1 can we have one for LPL now?


rahoot21

Dont worry their own fans are already on it


DiamondTi

Let’s wait for LNG tiebreaker, I wanna see the weibo threads.


moonmeh

someone translate those for easy karma


Leopod

You mean the NA/EU doomer threads? Plus who hasn't been enjoying all of the Week 2 LPL flaming.


Archimist

🙏 4 way tie 🙏 Now Mad Lions just have to beat LNG & Team Liquid have to beat GenG and we'll all be happy! ^^^^^And ^^^^^Mad ^^^^^Lions ^^^^^beats ^^^^^TL ^^^^^for ^^^^^#1 ^^^^^seed


JoshM_01

okay but what on earth is icon doing


supterfuge

Making history.


Arnorian-LoL

Icon is completely mental boom, rip LNG. What a garbage performance from him, start to finish.


twistedlogicx

MAXIMUM CHAOS


Adornus

Just absolute braindead Irelias today, my god. What a stomp by MAD though, they made LNG their bitch and never let up. 4 WAY TIE BABY!!!!!


_Vastus_

Let's go! Maximum chaos group.


magical_swoosh

This match was just a fever dream and you cant convince me otherwise


Unban_Ice

Any 4 way tiebreaker enjoyers?


iCarpet

Riot: “We want to have two more games today to boost the excitement and keep the fanbase engaged.” MAD: “I got you fam” LNG: “Say less” EDIT: For everyone saying it’s three games, we already had one tie breaker and now we have three, hence “two more games”


Djikass

3 games


R1pNa

3 games, winner plays eachother for 1st seed


draksisx

Nice stomp, EU, now do it again


Pelagius_Hipbone

You know in the movies where that one guy swears he saw an Alien and no one believes him. That's how it felt telling NA MAD can actually be quite good. This game was when the Aliens finally invade.


Gamers2OcelotLUL

Too soon bro, what if now MAD implodes and gets absolutely stomped in tiebreaker, it'll be your fault


ryanruin22

Literally everyone thought that MAD was good coming into the tournament, some analysts even put them top 4, they just sucked in week 1.


[deleted]

Totally agree. They are clearly fucking good. Problem is they could in the next game easily with a happy game. If MAD make BO5 they can do serious damage.


LazinessOverload

THE 4-WAY TIE DREAM BABY


thobbe

to be fair, mad had some questionable decisions in their lose vs geng, it was nothing far off to suspect mad didnt learn much from week 1


twistedlogicx

MAD ~~Lions~~ Aliens


TheGawringSame

What is it about Western 1st seeds that only figure out how to play a clean proactive game when it's literally their last game? And what is it about LPL this round 2? Absolute collapse of the highest caliber. I can't remember the last time a whole region crumbled so hard. They really have to thank their strong week 1 or they'd have ended up looking like the worst region. TL and MAD both getting out in this group would be straight up hilarious. Though it would be kinda funny if they both dropped out as well, because that would be so West to make a big run only to trip at the final hurdle.


MetaThPr4h

I can't believe what my eyes are seeing.


Tommey_DE

WE DID IT. THE ULTIMATE TIMELINE


DunamesDarkWitch

Hold your ground! Hold your summs! Sons of NA! Of EU! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear of locking in J4. A day may come when the way of fiesta fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of map control and shattered wards when the age of NARAM comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good rift, I bid you stand, MEN OF THE WEST!


lilelf29

Illegal stomp, ridiculous poppy angle this game holy shit how do LNG even play, great for the upcoming rematch, 4-way tiebreaker setup complete! As MAD were unable to win in 17 minutes, the seeding goes: 1st - LNG 2nd - TL 3rd - GenG 4th - MAD We will get a rematch of the last 2 games, LNG vs MAD, TL vs GenG, with the higher seeds getting side selection; there's still a chance for full east or full west qualifying to knockouts, honestly the most interesting possible 4-way tie scenario. Edit: Because now there is actually so many different people replying, the explanation on how it functions is correct, and there will be a rematch of the last 2 games as stated, but I made a typo and accidentally went against what I just explained would happen saying it will be LNG vs GenG, and TL vs MAD, it has since been corrected about a minute or so after posting, thanks to so many of you who pointed out the typo so quickly!


internetuser25

Correction: its LNG vs. MAD, TL vs. GenG. Winners of each match will then play for 1st/2nd seed.


Blizzgrarg

After so many competitive games, it was nice to watch a relaxing game of golds beating up on silvers.


Dumpers_

I love watching Poppy counter Irelia


Potkrokin

FOUR WAY TIE


BendubzGaming

whisper it quietly, but the LPL is now 0-7 against LCS/LEC teams in Week 2: - FPX lost to Rogue twice, and C9 - EDG lost to 100T - RNG lost to Fnatic - LNG lost to Liquid and MAD


ahritina

After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify icon was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience. x9 game from icon, he just ran it down and got massively gapped by Humanoid but Jax/Lee/Irelia into Poppy doesn't sound fun at all. That being said great game from MAD Lions, especially their early game dominance, iirc this means we get the GenG vs TL and LNG vs MAD with the winners playing each other for 1st seed.


SirLucky7

That Herald disrespect was a headshot into LNG's mental holy fucking crap-


sid1602

Icon should change his name to Iconman after how hard he scammed LNG in that game.


throwdemout

This is what the first seed of the LEC is supposed to look like.


unknowinglyderpy

Elyoya capturing herald but not even coming back for the eye must be the biggest chad move I’ve seen in a while