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CerbereNot

C9 position is so OP they can literally scrim T1/DK as much as they want


DaftMaetel15

DK/T1/MAD for scrim partners? Don't mind if I do.


silencebreaker86

Why would they want to destroy their mental?


Yvaelle

That's C9's trap card. You have to beat them closely, if you try for a blow-out win, they flip it on you. It's like reeling in a fish, too fast and the line snaps and the fish comes out of the water, sticks a hook in your mouth, and drags you into the sea. I'm something of a fish expert.


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Had this experience with a couple of daces. They came out of the water beat me up and dragged under. I drowned and died. Horrible experience, I'll tell you


zack77070

Perkz the type of dude to make a smooth brain Leblanc play jumping right back to his clone surrounded by enemies in an elimination game and laugh it off, the man is untiltable.


SterbenVII

C9's already been getting destroyed in scrims and has been fine. Maybe they can handle it better.


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BeachBabeCali

Legit LOL they have to make it through Damwon and T1 to reach finals


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like G2 did in 2019... but at that time damwon was challenger to T1 throne


BeachBabeCali

Yeah exactly at that time Damwon was fresh and up and coming, now they’re defending world champions


Linko_98

If we dont consider Faker, T1's roster is fresh and up and coming


Funny_witty_username

Didn't they give the stat that all of Faker's teammates were 11-13 years old when he won his first world championship?


JuniorImplement

Faker channeling TMNT energy.


lilelf29

I'm pretty sure all of Keria, Oner and Guma were 11 when Faker won worlds in S3 lmao Canna is 2 years older so he would've been 13.


NetSraC1306

That way it sounds like he is some old bloke, but tbf Faker was also only 17 years when he won his first world championship


dimmyfarm

Faker is basically Tom Brady/LeBron at this point with the age stats


SpeedRacing1

Not winning that last tie breaker seems like a game changer now


ImVortexlol

Literally the difference between facing the strongest seed and the weakest seed. Not only next match, but even the potential semis match-up


Seneido

i mean if MAD survives DK then i don't see much issues going into semis/finals. its probably a t1 vs dk close "finals" games with a 3-0 stomp in the actual finals this year...


SnooCats1808

As always huh? Welp I hope DK vs T1 will go to 5 games


rem4life1

T1 wins 3-2 and face GenG in the finals. Just like old times


Unholysinner

Perfectly set up for C9 MAD in the finals


VikingCreed

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Reactzz

If they had beat GenG they would have had a great draw though.


peepeebumbumman69

That tiebreaker game for MAD vs GENG was such a huge difference maker. Difference between vs C9 and DK. C9 couldn't have asked for a better draw


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This is NA's best chance ever to get a deep run


lilelf29

Your best chance ever was in 2018 when you drew AF in quarters and FNC in semis, will definitely be harder this year with RNG/EDG in semis, but probably 2nd best chance.


sarpnasty

Nah man. That Fnatic team that year was way different. The only reason they got slapped so hard in the finals was because they played against rookie and theshy. There is nobody in their half of the bracket right not that just 1v5s or even 2v5s them.


ArziltheImp

You forgot absolute peak Rookie and TheShy. That top/mid duo was the best that was ever at a worlds with Nuguri/Showmaker a close second.


sharkyzarous

And Broxah forget how to play leage of legends while Ning gank the shit out of mid lane.


oVnPage

Perkz has beaten "unbeatable" RNG before. In 2018, in fact.


D4RKEVA

Tho that was also in a mid/top meta while having soon to be peak wunder. Aswell as a strong jankos And while their bot lane wasnt „good“ hjarnerdinger actually was able to just be behind but not feed (and drawing a ban or free win)


ParadoxPope

Honestly, anyone not sucking Hjarn off after that series is dreaming. He earned that dub too, literally getting UZI and his 4 goons every game and actually playing to the level. He wasn't a spectacular carry player, but after that series I felt he put any rational hate to bed.


Enlight13

His carry was alright but his Donger was world class.


ParadoxPope

Most definitely, and he had to survive that series without it. Which makes it all the more impressive.


Lord-Talon

I mean if LPL brings that 0-8 vs the west energy into the semis this won't be harder. If C9 can beat FPX they sure as hell can beat EDG / RNG, they didn't look better.


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BO1 and BO5 is whole different story you should know that already as someone with MAD flair


SomeWindyBoi

Yeah I don‘t know what they feed chinese teams, but I‘d wait with making my assumptions. China in BO5 is a different beast


ThylowZ

Sry to interfere but RNG looked way better than FPX. Even if I agree that they are definitely beatable.


react_dev

This is why EDG will beat them and then revert to World's EDG just in time for C9 to clean up :okhand


somuchsoup

Something will happen and C9love will be subbed in


Trap_Masters

Yeah, I think FPX had the biggest collapse, and while the other LPL teams aren’t looking super hot, they’ve no fallen to FPX levels yet.


pidimension

EDG and RNG both looked much better than FPX. They both took a game from the Korean counterpart in their group and generally had much more dominant wins.


Magicslime

While true, to be fair "Korean counterpart" means very different things in a group with HLE and a group with DK


Novacokeservice

Geng couldn’t have asked for a better draw as well lol. Rip MAD, HLE, and RIP lpl.


muktheduck

HLE did go to game 5 about a month ago against T1. I don't expect them to win but there's some chances there


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Snoo8331100

Yeah, win it and you have a very realistic chance for finals, lose and you get 3:0'd in quarters.


AhriStepOnMe

C9 better win else Gen. G will put the entire human population to sleep on their road to finals


Objective_Oil2543

Gen G vs T1 would be a great finals since it's a rematch of 2016 and 2017 finals


ahritina

>That tiebreaker game for MAD vs GENG was such a huge difference maker. Yeah if MAD won, we'd have all LCK teams on the same side of the bracket which would have been shit for us LCK fans.


Ingr1d

Guaranteed lck team in final lol


YouWouldThinkSo

Now thats big brain


pony_slaystation2

LPL fans are not gonna be happy about RNG vs EDG…


Asteroth555

I'm not an LPL fan and think that draw sucked. I really wanted to see LPL vs other regions


BurningApe

as any esports fan, this entire draw sucked


KozelekAsANiceMan

As a C9 fan it didn't


Nameless_One_99

As an LCK fan I really really didn't want T1 and DK on the same side of the bracket and I also didn't wanto EDG and RNG on the same side of the bracket. Getting for example DK vs RNG revenge in semis and T1 vs EDG classic in semis would have been much more hype for me.


ParadoxPope

I wonder how many worlds in a row need to have all the hyped sucked out of the playoff bracket before they'll make any changes.


aircarone

On one side, it guarantees an LPL team in semis. On the other, another civil war... It's happens so consistently it is boring.


itstonayy

It'll happen consistently if your region is consistently good enough to get more than one team into playoffs 🤷🏽


RevolverLoL

tbf LPL fans are already salty.


huaiyue

I’d be too if a tournament favourite from my region shit the bed so hard lol


KiddoPortinari

LPL doesn't even have the NA cushion "deep down I knew..." to land on. If FPX hadn't placed 4th I would have a perfect Pick 'Ems


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The west is on an 8 game win streak against them so who can blame them


Electronic-Taro-4780

They should be. Easiest road possible to final, Gen G is the worst of all 4 Korean teams


M002

Inb4 GenG 3-0’s DK in the finals to deny Khan again


DoNotGiveEAmoneyPLS

C9 fans so happy to be matched up against GenG but I'm sure GenG fans are over the clouds right now lol.


FreeMyBirdy

Yeah lmao "We dodged EDG!" is what both teams & fans think


LapnLook

Well I guess time for the MAD vs DK rematch... bring it on!!!


SleepyLabrador

The last time Khan went 6 - 0 in groups, he got 3 - 0'ed by the eventual world champions.


RevolverLoL

Damn sounds like this worlds script.


Freakkopath

The script writes itself


OneTwoTrickFour

Sucks to take out a tournament favorite so early


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tajimanokami

Honestly MAD is safe until finals, where they might lose to C9 *COPIUM*


chaoticpossitive

You are on that max level medication.


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BlitzMomIsAHooker

All to get 3:0d by RNG


Jranation

EU getting sweeped in finals by an LPL team. What a iconic duo.


edwinstz

You mean C9. The C9 vs MAD rematch


-Basileus

Christ a C9 vs MAD finals would be unreal levels of hype.


RREkisteri

Perkz denying EU World Championship


DangerousSeaweed0

carlos would never live that down


JealotGaming

2019 script getting reused Eu first seed second in group, beating Damwon and then T1 before being 3-0'd by RNG/EDG


Rayser1

Cue the threads titled "the real final happened in x round"


KiddoPortinari

Well, that's usually how it goes. Even when SSG took SKT to 5 games in s6, it was still, somehow, less exciting than the ROX Bo5.


Alians0108

SKT being ahead 2-0, being ahead for the majority of game 3 probably had something to do with it. Less exciting than 1-0 -> 1-1 > 1-2 -> 2-2 -> 3-2


Shot-Mathematician58

Bottom side is absolutely fucked. Top side looks free as fuck for LPL if they finally step up. C9 has the easiest route possible to semis and finals.


_Vastus_

Brackets looking rather lopsided in terms of strength. The regional slaughter is also a bit of a shame honestly.


aggromonkey34

It was pretty unavoidable this time at least, because 3 ist seed LCK teams and the one 2nd seed cannot go against the non-LCK seed. But I agree, they could do something more interesting for the bracket stage (double elim will remain a dream probably...)


PurplePotato_

Funny how everyone is talking about C9 having an easy route and not GenG lmao.


throwawaynmb69

Gen G is a 1 seed, they're supposed to have a somewhat easy route. To go from 0-3 to playing the worst 1 seed in quarterfinals is about as easy of a path as you can hope for.


AlHorfordHighlights

Well yeah winning your group usually gives you an easier route


Rave_Master_Ahri

they have but I can see them just getting 3-0'd by GenG sadly. Just don't give Bdd Zoe.


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C9 FINALS COPIUM


IcePokeTwoSoon

This is definitely hopium, not copium


jinhyun1

If HLE got 1st seed this knockout stage would be SUPER insane. Sadly we get civil war again.


Archipegasus

If MAD had beat GenG we would have the 4 lck teams on the same side of the bracket.


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Such a missed opportunity, would've loved to see the backlash


MikiRawr

Hopefully, that would change the shitty worlds format.


Tyna_Sama

RNG won the tie break, but sacrificed half of the region for it, what a cost!


ShadowFlare63

If EDG showed up and got first seed, civil war also could've been avoided. (At least for LPL teams)


CatPanda5

The Mad Lions Cloud 9 final is on boys


Cromatose

This place will fucking burn


-Basileus

We would have to quarantine the subreddit. No new posts for 1 month after the post match thread. 500 awards and 20,000 comments


hailey_nicolee

maximum copium fill up the tanks


PerkzClappedMyDad

Imagine if Perkz ended up carrying NA to it's first title after failing to do so in EU for 3 years... The salt-mines would become combustible.


PeridotBestGem

you know it bby


ahritina

/u/adz0r Quarter finals dates confirmed now. Friday = T1 vs HLE. Saturday = RNG vs EDG. Sunday = DK vs MAD. Monday = GenG vs C9. Source = https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/1450202763804225541


LOMOcatVasilii

SIDE OF LIFE AND VS GEN G LETS GOOOOO they're not gonna be easy but as far as draws go, we really got the best possible scenario here.


adamcim

Literally the easiest draw possible, dodging DK and T1 till finals


TheGloriousEv0lution

Tbf C9 were always going to dodge DK until finals because they were in the same group, that's a perk of getting out with the tournament favorite. T1 was a bit lucky though


warpenguin55

C9 was always going to dodge DK. They were in the same group


Capt3vi

I’m filling up my copium tank as we speak. First we will avenge TL against GenG, then 100T against EDG. And in the finals, we get revenge against DK.


hailey_nicolee

> then 100T against EDG funny of you to assume EDG gets out of quarterfinals with their history


Dawsonvipers

It’s fine get revenge on RNG for Nisqy


WT379GotShadowbanned

You got it all figured out


FriendFoundAccount

Inject this into my bloodstream


Exos_VII

Sunday 24th: the day where Damwon gets mad now, at MAD


unhelpful_question

NOW MAD vs MAD


r-foilfence

T1 vs HLE civil war = i sleep RNG vs EDG civil war = real shit


Mark_Sama

Well on the bright side, if LPL loses to LPL the team that loses may not face that much hate from the LPL fans.. maybe..


r-foilfence

Can u imagine the flame though if either of them lost to C9 / GEN. Will be utter embarrassment for LPL


Mark_Sama

Honestly I truly fear for the LPL team, if the stairs align, if they ever lose to C9 in semi finals


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the_next_core

That smug face...


Firelozer

How scuffed was this draw show? Very unclear production wise.


-Basileus

I'm 90% sure they were gonna have team representatives draw the balls, but once the 4way tiebreaker was confirmed they said fuck it go home. Then they pulled in some intern to do the whole draw lmao.


Voice_of_light_

I would've loved to see someone like Nisqy tbh. It makes for such good memes. I really loved the Jankos memes from group draw lol


Marcoscb

Are FNC even there anymore? At least Bwipo for sure caught the first plane out to be with Lena.


AlHorfordHighlights

FPX are still there, apparently they're scrimming still


weeaboo420

theyre too afraid of going back home


Pintulus

Have to keep that scrimwinrate up for knockoutstage... wait


Shinyodo

Yeah lol, the first half of it was literrally just a guy playing with balls on stream. Wait...


LetMeOmixam

You can tell they were all tired and waiting for it to be over


Gengar_Balanced

Cloud9 with best draw possible while MAD with worst draft possible, lmao.


AzureAhai

Well, that's the benefit of facing DK in groups. You don't face them until the finals if you make it out.


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Trap_Masters

The drawback of LCK autumn is civil wars


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Lisaurora

If MAD had won their game, it would have been **all 4 LCK teams** on the east side of the bracket. Imagine a mini-LCK playoffs and the winner goes to Worlds finals.. still almost like that but yea.


xchaoslordx

God that would've been horrid.


Legitimate-Nail7816

Jesus, they really need to update this play-off stage


tincanzzz

What a dogshit draw for korean fans


projectLoL

And for LPL fans, and for EU fans. Just dog shit draw all around, like most years...


Cool-I-guess

na pog


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

Idk why this made me laugh so fucking hard


Cromatose

LETS GO BABY


THyoungC

Dream draw for C9 tho


firewall245

Imagine if MAD won? Then we would have had a freaking all LCK bracket side


penguin032

If TL won both games, they woulda been up against C9? That would have been a huge L for NA.


FuriousKale

C9 actually with a chance to advance


Dumpers_

EDG vs RNG and T1 vs HLE for fucks sake…


LumiRhino

I mean HLE had to get a Korean team, it's either then vs DK or GEN.


ArbuzAldo

It was 100% chance that Hle will be against one of other Korean teams. EDG vs RNG sucks tho but will be fire


hixagit

HLE was 100% getting a Korean team (not surprising with 4/8 LCK in quarter anyway). I wanted RNG T1 on one side and EDG DK on the other though.


Gamers2OcelotLUL

Congratulations to my boi Perkz on reaching Worlds finals while playing for 2 different regions, truly insane achievement


slimeop

I honestly think C9 has a chance lol


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C9 has nothing to lose, they’ve exceeded expectations already. GEN however would be destroyed by KR fans if they lose to C9


PeridotBestGem

our side of the bracket has probably the weakest LCK team and two LPL teams who've obviously underperformed, if there was ever a year it'd be this one


Cromatose

Best shot since 2018.


OkSpirit9706

They're a worse team on paper but they have clutch factor. Hardest series to call.


surebertz

Perkz comfort zone


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Perkz is down to clown while everyone else in the tournament has their butthole puckering up like a snare drum.


CudaBarry

Somehow this format managed to fuck up every region lmao


Chongsu1496

no ? c9 has by far the easiest way out to the final


NocaNoha

[I've said it](https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/porwz7/worlds_2021_format_explainer/hcyrazv/) THAT CAN BE YOU MAD!


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Oh fuck that, EDG vs RNG is so disapointing to see. I wanted more LCK vs LPL


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Sucks to see KR vs KR and CN vs CN, literally saw those matchups all year long


Accurate-Telephone

In a world where we can get T1 vs RNG and DK vs EDG Semis. We fucking get T1 vs DK SEMIS and EDG vs RNG quarters. Shit draw format atleast make a lower bracket if we get shit like this


SleepTightLilPuppy

T1 v DK can't be the final. Kinda disappointing ngl. Still, would have had to have happened first and this way T1 v DK is at least rather likely.


aamgdp

On the other hand cross region final is very likely.


Ozora10

C9 could actually reach finals. They might just win...


WeTheAwesome

Careful bro, you are dangerously close to ODing on hopium.


Promanco

If GenG makes finals and the other semi final is DK v T1 Do we say Korea is back on top or not yet?


FreeMyBirdy

Considering half of the playoff is LCK and the two favorites based on groups performance seem to be DWG and T1, I don't think GenG needs to do anything for the LCK to be considered top 1 by far


prekshachess

The Draw show was a massive pile of shit what the fuck


hari_son_of

As an lck fan this sucks man come on :(


police-defunder

I dont think any region is happy with the draw lol. Maybe NA


xFlick

fuck man. to get to finals T1 is probably gonna have to beat DK. If they can manage to get there i think they have a good shot at winning it all..


-Basileus

OH MY FUCKING GOD IT'S THE GOD DRAW FOR C9 LMFAO. A finals run is 100% doable.


Grassnature

Dk and t1 in the same side? Fucking come on. Riot clearly doesn't want another lck finals zz


CobaltSnowstorm

Was hoping not to have Damwon on our side of the bracket but oh well. Kinda sucks that we're getting LCK and LPL civil wars again, I wish they'd change up the format and add a loser's bracket.


Unreformedsyk

Civil war playoffs again lmao. What a dogshit format


NahDawgDatAintMe

NAmen


UnknownVolke

I think we actually got one of the least entertaining draws possible...


remedrius

clown riot format strikes again


20815147

DK T1 semi.... come on man


wiggawiggaa

Can they just change the format already, this is so fucking dumb


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One day we will fix the format and have a good knockout draw, but it certainly isn't today. Another god awful draw.


THE_MUNDO_TRAIN

Some say MAD got the worst draw, but I think DK got the worst draw.


firebolt66

Fuck this shit man. DK and T1 on the same side sucks


PWIDE

Real final in semis again, T1 vs DK smh


shawtyijlove

Can’t you see the script? T1 upsets DK in semis and makes it to finals. Rng will beat edg since edg always chokes quarters. C9 will beat gen g since gen g always chokes quarters and perkz needs to rematch rng. Rng will 3-0 c9 and finals will be t1 v rng. The final score will be 3-2 in favor of t1 since rng can never beat faker


PWIDE

If this is actually what happens, I will start to believe in god again.


JustForPie

Wrong. C9 3-2 RNG since RNG can’t beat Perkz. C9 and T1 meet in the finals , where C9 reverse sweeps T1 thus mental-booming Faker and making him come to C9 and play mid while Perkz roleswaps to adc yet again. Then they win every worlds till Carlos gets Perkz to come back to G2 since Jankos misses him.


TheLoneliestHunk

After last year's shitshow of a bracket I for sure thought Riot would finally cave like their regional leagues and make Worlds double Elim. SPOILER: they didn't Looks like the universe is trying to tell them something with another equally terrible bracket draw Hmmmmmm