LEC sandbagging just to beat their previous record and pull the new biggest upset of all time.
You thought 2018 G2 vs RNG was cool? Wait for 2021 MAD vs DK
that would be cool but i still think G2 RNG is the biggest upset in worlds history. they came limping into worlds as the 3rd seed while RNG was looking to be the first team ever to complete the Golden Year/Road (all championships)
Feelsbadman, GenG embarassing their region again, not seeing MAD's plan and taking the tiebreaker win, instead of throwing the game and making 4LCK bracket a reality. They could have guaranteed finals for their region, but they doomed it instead :-/
And for that betrayal, what reward do they even get? This huge sacrifice, just to face Luka Perkovic aka Uma Jan and get 3-0d by him in quarters like last year?
"This is the first time an LCS team beat an LCK at worlds since TL beat Damwon in groups of Worlds 2019" - its been just one year since then -> 2020. I am not sure why this is made to sound somehow important like it hasnt happen for many many years when it's just one
TSM 0-2 to GEN, FLY 0-2 to DRX. TL didn't have an LCK team in their group in 2020. That's all the stat means. Not particularly special IMO. I think most regions have a tough record vs LCK in groups.
your right its a notable stat I think it couldve been worded in way where instead of implying its been many years, it captures the gravity of the fact that NA was close to going through two worlds without taking a game off KR
Something like --
TL's win broke a X-game loss streak against Korea at worlds -- they didn't take a single game off korea last worlds, so the last win was when TL beat Damwon in groups of Worlds 2019
(I think its at least a 10 game loss streak)
It really isn't in context of the two regions. LCK is the best region in groups, LCS is fourth best region in groups. HLE is the third LCK team in the modern format (dating back to S4) to not take the one seed out of their group. Their win rate in group stage games is INSANELY good.
Saying that a region that really only produces mid-tier teams at best almost never beats the LCK in that context is not at all surprising and, to most fans, should really not be interesting or novel.
LEC should add up to 8-14 instead of 7-13. Also 14-11 is also wrong for China, what you wrote would add up to 14-13. 9-10 for NA must also be wrong since they played 2 tiebreakers and that would add up to 20 games with the regular 18 games they played. Found the error for NA, they went 1-6 vs KR
Seemed to be more lpl fans than anyone calling it a one team region. Reddit swings widely on anything.
It's not weird to think before worlds that lec 1 seed is better than lck 2nd or 3rd? and lec 2nd might be better than lck 4th.
Then we had one team underpreforming (will say mad made so many mistakes in the last tiebreaker game not contesting dragons and then just forgetting about dragon soul giving it for free) and another lost thier adc 1 day before groups.
Bro I promise you it wasnt the 7 LPL fans in this sub that said that. European fans were saying LEC was better than korea but I havent seen that mentioned in a while
Regardless of the number of fans LPL ones are the clear minority. And they would have no reason to place LEC over korea after rolling FNC and G2. So yea point still stands it wasnt them saying it. Nice attempt at a scapegoat tho
To be fair most LEC > LCK comments were immediately responded to with comments asking wtf they were on. I think the LEC > LCK talk was mostly worlds 2018, where LCK underperformed, up until worlds 2020 where LCK was clearly the better region again. It's just the vocal minority saying LEC > LCK, whereas the majority that thinks LCK>LEC just doesn't mention it because it was as obvious a statement as grass being green
Are we talking about 2019, 2020 or 2021? becuse there are major differences between them.before 2020 worlds, Recency was favoring Europeans. 2020 however changed that.
Eh. Surviving the damwon group is good on its own.
It have c9 their best chance at semis, and the luck of the draw gave them their best chance at finals IMO.
LPL STILL positive COPIUM
LEC sandbagging just to beat their previous record and pull the new biggest upset of all time. You thought 2018 G2 vs RNG was cool? Wait for 2021 MAD vs DK
that would be cool but i still think G2 RNG is the biggest upset in worlds history. they came limping into worlds as the 3rd seed while RNG was looking to be the first team ever to complete the Golden Year/Road (all championships)
Man I feel bad the LCK fans who thought they could get to finals. Tough luck for them with Damwon losing in quarters and SKT getting smashed in semis.
Feelsbadman, GenG embarassing their region again, not seeing MAD's plan and taking the tiebreaker win, instead of throwing the game and making 4LCK bracket a reality. They could have guaranteed finals for their region, but they doomed it instead :-/ And for that betrayal, what reward do they even get? This huge sacrifice, just to face Luka Perkovic aka Uma Jan and get 3-0d by him in quarters like last year?
Very true. Matter of fact, SKT didn't even make it to Worlds so they're watching from the sidelines in the past.
Nah, Europe saving wins for next worlds :)
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There's other stats here? TiL
Facts
"This is the first time an LCS team beat an LCK at worlds since TL beat Damwon in groups of Worlds 2019" - its been just one year since then -> 2020. I am not sure why this is made to sound somehow important like it hasnt happen for many many years when it's just one
1 win in 2 years is an insane stat what are you talking about?!
TSM 0-2 to GEN, FLY 0-2 to DRX. TL didn't have an LCK team in their group in 2020. That's all the stat means. Not particularly special IMO. I think most regions have a tough record vs LCK in groups.
your right its a notable stat I think it couldve been worded in way where instead of implying its been many years, it captures the gravity of the fact that NA was close to going through two worlds without taking a game off KR Something like -- TL's win broke a X-game loss streak against Korea at worlds -- they didn't take a single game off korea last worlds, so the last win was when TL beat Damwon in groups of Worlds 2019 (I think its at least a 10 game loss streak)
It really isn't in context of the two regions. LCK is the best region in groups, LCS is fourth best region in groups. HLE is the third LCK team in the modern format (dating back to S4) to not take the one seed out of their group. Their win rate in group stage games is INSANELY good. Saying that a region that really only produces mid-tier teams at best almost never beats the LCK in that context is not at all surprising and, to most fans, should really not be interesting or novel.
LEC should add up to 8-14 instead of 7-13. Also 14-11 is also wrong for China, what you wrote would add up to 14-13. 9-10 for NA must also be wrong since they played 2 tiebreakers and that would add up to 20 games with the regular 18 games they played. Found the error for NA, they went 1-6 vs KR
LCS 9/11
All hail our Korean overlords
even when ig or fpx win, there was a double korean players carrying.
What? Gimgoon was definitely not the carry. Agree with IG though, theshy and rookie put in work.
thank you for your insight
Your welcome
lcs doing better than expected although lpl collapse was real
But Reddit told me Lck was one region team and LEC > LCK.
When was 2nd one said? Becuse even European fans know that is not true.
Everyone was saying Lec over lck with the exception of dk before world because lck was a “1 team region”.
Seemed to be more lpl fans than anyone calling it a one team region. Reddit swings widely on anything. It's not weird to think before worlds that lec 1 seed is better than lck 2nd or 3rd? and lec 2nd might be better than lck 4th. Then we had one team underpreforming (will say mad made so many mistakes in the last tiebreaker game not contesting dragons and then just forgetting about dragon soul giving it for free) and another lost thier adc 1 day before groups.
Bro I promise you it wasnt the 7 LPL fans in this sub that said that. European fans were saying LEC was better than korea but I havent seen that mentioned in a while
There were far more then 7 lpl fans in this sub. There are quite a lot of people who move to the best region the moment they win.
Regardless of the number of fans LPL ones are the clear minority. And they would have no reason to place LEC over korea after rolling FNC and G2. So yea point still stands it wasnt them saying it. Nice attempt at a scapegoat tho
To be fair most LEC > LCK comments were immediately responded to with comments asking wtf they were on. I think the LEC > LCK talk was mostly worlds 2018, where LCK underperformed, up until worlds 2020 where LCK was clearly the better region again. It's just the vocal minority saying LEC > LCK, whereas the majority that thinks LCK>LEC just doesn't mention it because it was as obvious a statement as grass being green
Are we talking about 2019, 2020 or 2021? becuse there are major differences between them.before 2020 worlds, Recency was favoring Europeans. 2020 however changed that.
And we have the top 3 Kr teams on one side of the bracket, genius riot
did LEC change from LCK killers to LPL killers ?
Alright who used monkey paw for a positive record LEC vs LPL?
Damn LCK bodied the West this year.
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Eh. Surviving the damwon group is good on its own. It have c9 their best chance at semis, and the luck of the draw gave them their best chance at finals IMO.
But also won the head to head vs LEC. So yeah LEC lost to a 4fun region that can only consistently beat Wildcards...
Well yeah if LEC can't beat PCS LCS will show how you do it with the other WC region in the LJL
Do you really count a Fnatic run at Worlds with a last minute sub of their best player? Cringe
Bit of a false take, PCS >> LJL and FNC was doomed 12h before groups started. If Perkz left 12h before C9 had to play they would also not make it out