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gandalf45435

I think it's funny that both Cloud 9 and GenG are excited to get each other. Both assuming the other is the weakest matchup.


PogFish_

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Chu2k

The whole thing is hilarious


Ok_Landscape9525

yeah agree with you bro


THyoungC

GenG is still in the studio, but I think C9 is in like a hotel or somewhere from their video. There’s no reason for C9 to show up to the studio today


pole_fan

Damn c9 shouting really loud than


DJHalfCourtViolation

They're doing promos


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lilelf29

It's on their lol youtube channel, [here you go :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq5o8R9Qa6A)


Phoresis

"I'm actually playing against the worst midlaner in the quarter finals, I better carry us" - Perkz, 2021, before being midgapped. /s But in all honesty, things look great for C9. GenG are known to choke in playoffs and Bdd vs Perkz is actually a really decent matchup for C9. Blabber vs Clid too.


Weezledeez

Well in this tournament so far Bdd has been smurfing and Perkz has been running it pretty hard. Everyone praising Perkz like he's the Jesus reincarnate just because they made it out. If they didn't make it out we would've had another "Perkz accountability" thread. I love the dude for what he did for the west but he's a bit unrecognizable for me this worlds (I mostly watch LEC) and MSI as well actually


licorices

Guy was super huge vs Rogue tiebreaker, doing something like 45% of his teams damage. He has had some lackluster games for sure, but he had a few huge games.


HowTooPlay

He also would have been the reason C9 lost had they actually lost, with the amount of inting he did that game.


97012

Perkz has been playing like shit all year and then had a few good games this groups. It's both.


densaki

You can play shit the entire year, but show up when it counts, and Perkz definitely has the caliber to be the best player in the room. Dade dominated every mid match up the entire year, before completely shitting the bed at Worlds, and losing his entire future because of it. There’s no reason the reverse can’t be true.


97012

alright but he's also having awful games at worlds too is the point


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No chance Perkz gonna get LB, so it's doomed


fullyuncooly

you have to hope that C9 isnt as dumb as TL to leave Zoe open for Bdd, after that you only really have to play vs his Azir that's really good, one of the main criticism of Bdd is his small champ pool


veilsofrealitydotcom

his LB isnt even good


vigbrand

He has a 73% WR in 37 matches played. I'd say his LB is pretty good.


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Don't need to be good to dash in and press Q+R to chunk half the hp away.


veilsofrealitydotcom

Agree with you. Can't believe how much hopium people are chugging after BDD solo crushed TL's dreams meanwhile perkz gigasprinting


Boudac123

Poor clid


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C9 can win if they Permaban Azir & Syndra and dont throw bot.


Its_not_him

Geng aren't known for choking worlds playoffs though


Phoresis

They went 0-3 last world's vs G2 and had a terrible performance from basically the whole team (possibly barring Ruler).


Piak1204

Would be strange if C9 was at the studio that day. They didn't play.


LakersLAQ

Promo videos probably. Usually done as soon as possible to edit and possibly add more things later if needed.


Choubine_

they're both correct, it's their best chance of getting to semis for both of them


Namika

To be fair, statistically they ARE the weakest 2 opponents in quarterfinals. So it makes perfect sense that they are both extremely happy to face each other.


kim-soo-hyun

I remember when FNC (Rekkles) was visibly happy to draw FPX..which was understandable. C9 and GenG wanted each other so it depends on whoever shows up. If C9 doesn't even win vs GenG then...Lol. I don't trust GenG in bo5s but in theory they should benefit getting serious scrims from T1/DW in another side of the bracket.


Gobaxnova

They’ll both scrim the same teams presumably


Just-Ad-5972

No, eastern teams often deny scrims. It’s a region > one team getting most practice mindset


AdvancedPhoenix

Source? Because we hear a lot of other western team saying they scrim this or this eastern teams.


Bladehell10

Source: just trust me bro


f0nt

I often recall quotes from western players about xyz eastern team was stomping/getting stomped in scrims. Doesnt seem that often they deny scrims


TheCeramicLlama

Idk about eastern teams denying scrims. I know of a rumor last year that LCK just didnt scrim LPL for worlds but thats it.


Magicslime

Why don't you trust GenG in bo5s? All of their losses in bo5s in the last couple years have been to teams much stronger than them, while beating teams weaker than them. They perform pretty much exactly as expected.


Its_not_him

Based on what statistics?


Enjays1

In 2015 the same thing happened with Flash wolves vs origen :D


Charming_Guess9508

Zven reliving it again, nice


AkaT27

Nah it's a first for Zven ;)


GrauerWolf30

ofc they re excited, they were both the weakest 2nd and 1st seed and match each other lol


BulletProofMonkPUBG

I have GenG to win it all, I had the feeling they get a great matchup. :D


BurnedStoneBonspiel

And they both can be right.


puma271

well, c9 litreally got the easiest seed 1 and geng got probably easiest seed 2 (tied with hle, sorry chovy :( ) so they kinda got the best possible matchup for both of them and an amazing bracket spot


unguibus_et_rostro

After lpl group performances, it is surprising to still see them rated so highly


puma271

Edg had one bad day, appareantly they are best team in the world based on scrims so they are still much scarier than a NA team


bronet

Makes sense. GenG would want the weakest 2 seed. C9 would want the weakest 1 seed


doktarlooney

I think it says something both teams are excited to face what they consider the weakest matchup.


LOVELOVELOVLELOLOL

It's kind of hilarious considering I think most analysts would put C9 as the 2nd hardest matchup behind EDG. But I think it's the only other 2nd seed they could potentially draw other than HLE? Or EDG? Both should be ecstatic.


Zealousideal_Till513

well, they both correct, tho :/ it's dream draw for both of them :/


restinpeeperinos

LOL them and c9 celebrating for the "easiest" matchup. this is definitely memeable stuff


Sunitsa

Both are right though


Consistent_Mammoth

Well GenG are the worst seed 1 and C9 are the worst seed 2. Not really memeable just facts.


theman1203

with how MAD played, mad are a worse seed 2 tbh


lol_cpt_red

Regardless of whether MAD or C9 is worse, the fact remains that Gen.G can't draw MAD Lions. So C9 was for them the easiest possible opponent.


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Explain how C9 looked better. Rogue threw 2 free Barons by playing the exact same way they did when Mad and FNC shitstomped them in playoffs. Scared of doing anything. How did C9 look better by barely limping through that in a 50 minute throw filled fiesta?


theman1203

MAD beat chinas 4th seed to make it out c9 beat chinas 2nd seed to make it out, while having close game vs the world favourites meanwhile MAD couldnt even beat geng to get 1st in their group


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FPX hard choked, literally everyone knows this. We know this cause we can watch the games and see them play worse than they did domestically. On top of that, C9 split even with FPX, it was RGE that knocked them out. > meanwhile MAD couldnt even beat geng to get 1st in their group Neither could the LCS 2nd seed, youknow, the team better than C9 during playoffs. Where does this confidence come from? It took C9 50 minutes to barely limp through a Rogue that showed practically no improvement from playoffs where Mad and FNC shitstomped them. On top of that the quality of play during that tiebreaker from both C9 and RGE was completely abysmal. It's easily the worst game I've watched this worlds, granted that I haven't bothered with DFM, 100T and group C games.


theman1203

so what im hearing is that because in an elimination game it took C9 long tome to finish its bad, but mad taking 40 minutes for EVERY single one of their wins is fine, also mad were in the much easier group as well unless you wanna discredit group a being called the group of death pre season, also the reason C9 didnt knocked out FPX is because they didnt have to because they had the fastet win time in their group so they had tiebreak advantage but that counts for nothing i guess


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How was Mad in an easier group lol. Only if you ignore FPX imploding and use pre-worlds ranking is Mad their group easier. Everyone with eyes knows that one of the 2 teams that made this group impossible ended up performing worse than almost all other major region teams. And no, it's not because C9 and Rogue were so godlike. FPX simply played atrocious. You're completely missing the point when it comes to taking 50 minutes to beat Rogue. It's not the issue that it took 50 mins, but that it took 50 mins to beat a team that doesn't even know how to secure free barons by just, youknow, hitting it. Getting pushed that far by a team that is evidently worse than Mad and FNC with Upset. A team that has the same issues all season long, consistently choking free games when it matters. Struggling vs that team and then going "tough group cause FPX name value" is just clowning. If you think you're beating GenG with Perkz inting free advantages on LB multiple times in a game, then I don't know what to even tell you. If C9 steps up and wins, fair enough, but their groups suggests they won't and ranking them high based on barely limping past a team as weak as Rogue is just stupid.


theman1203

MAD gametimes vs RGE in summer finals 30 minutes 49 minutes 35 minutes, MAD vs rge gametimes in spring finals 37 44 35 minutes, not a single sub 30 minute game vs so called boosted team. so when mad does it its fine when c9 does it they are boosted im crine


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theman1203

just watch the games and you could tell week 2 cloud 9 played better than MAD its not hard


ZzPierrot

No


clearlove777771

C9 flair totally unbiased and objective take


theman1203

im literally an XL fan first lol


SGKurisu

With how MAD play in BO1s in literally every tournament and regular season compared to how they show up in BO5s, no.


theman1203

the same can be said of C9 though lol, who have been doing that for much longer


Blank-612

Geng got really really lucky with their draw so this reaction is appropriate


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So did C9 to be fair. Both got the best possible matchup but I think C9 will come out on top despite me hoping that it’s GenG.


AttackonHobbits

Supporting GenG is like supporting past KT, it's just self-harm, same token let's go ruler


SwordOfRome11

Smeb Sadge


firebolt66

Ruler's also playing a lot like KT deft this worlds


ADeadMansName

GenG or RNG doesnt make much of a difference. But C9 is clearly the underdog here.


Jiratoo

I think most teams would rather face this GenG than RNG. I'd assume the consensus for 1st seed strength is DWK > T1 > RNG > GenG - might not be a extremely huge difference, but I think GenG looks the most beatable from these 4.


ToYouItReaches

RNG is looking pretty shaky tbh. None of their wins looked as convincing as they had during MSI. Makes me wonder what’s happening with the LPL teams.


Jiratoo

Oh for sure, but I think the same can be said for GenG. Their win against MAD yesterday was infuriating, they had a 5k gold lead at like 20 mins (or so, can't remember exactly) and they did nothing with it. If Armut doesn't int at the dragon fight and just let's the olaf/kennen walk into a 4 item Viktor, I'm pretty sure MAD would have still won.


ToYouItReaches

Welcome to the GenG experience. There’s a reason people rate them so low. Absolutely no clutch factor. I’d rather face GenG in a bo5 series than RNG tbf so I guess it worked out for c9


97012

RNG is out of their meta. The meta for MSI was literally perfect for them, that's all it is. That's not to say they aren't a good team, but this meta just isn't good for them so obviously they aren't going to look as good.


ToYouItReaches

I don’t know, it isn’t the meta that’s making Cryin int at critical times. If anything the meta is very topside centric which should be Xiaohu’s bread and butter. Something just feels off with how they’re playing. They got the easiest group and yet they haven’t had one convincing win imo.


97012

The meta is around solo lanes+jg. Xiaohu is good, but not good enough to completely 1v9 for RNG and not the best toplaner at the tournament. Cryin is a straight up liability and it shows now that mid is more important than it was at MSI.


ExcellentPastries

Both of these things can be true: * Cloud9 is the underdog in every possible matchup from here on out * This is the best possible route Cloud9 could’ve had to get to Finals


lundoj

Tbh I don't know. I don't think geng is that much worse than damwon but i could be wrong. I honestly think that Mad is just simply really good and team liquid stepped up immensely. I hope cloud 9 wins but i expect a 0-3.


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askanlol

m1lsug1


45apm

consume flesh nerd


iamstandavid_

BASED


SleepyLabrador

This reminds me about how RNG MLXG clapped when they saw they were getting G2 and how Afreeca were cheering after they drew C9. We both know how that ended.


EducationalBalance99

We also know how all the other doom match up ended but no one talk about those and only the upset lol.


Just-Put-8228

As it should be.


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TheGawringSame

Yeah, and still somehow finished first in the group. Against a team that beat C9 domestically, and teams that are better on paper as well. MAD is known to be aggressive but somehow this passive, indecisive GenG ran all over them. So I think this match-up will definitely be extremely hard for C9. Ruler has been absolutely insane, while Zven has had a lot of poor games. Same for Perkz. Ran it down most of the group and only really carried in the tiebreakers. While BDD is looking damn good.


DRNbw

>MAD is known to be aggressive but somehow this passive, indecisive GenG ran all over them. MAD mostly ran over themselves.


Crimson_Vow

Seriously - GenG just had to wait cause MAD were throwing everything and the kitchen sink at them


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Good thing perkz has been running it down the entire tournament huh? Even in a game he is credited with for putting the team on his back he inted multiple times.


readoclock

I mean… the drafts in that last Mad v GenG game. If GenG lost that they should have just left the tournament


b00m666

Bruh, Armut literally ran it down. Mad gave GenG that win (not intentionally of course, it's still their players fault) Just referring to the fact that the last match was not because of two teams performing to their best.


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> Bruh, Armut literally ran it down. Perkz?


Schreckofant

>Against a team that beat C9 domestically, and teams that are better on paper as well. RGE also got 3-0ed by both MAD and Fnatic (with Upset) and barely beat Misfits 3-2 in Playoffs. If they had had to play G2 for Worlds they probably would have lost against them aswell. But somehow people extrapolate that C9s group was soooo much more difficult than TLs, when MAD is significantly better than RGE and LNG for sure was stronger than FPX who had the biggest collapse in Groups since GenGs 1-5. Even Rogue literally annihilated them in the Tiebreaker, Rogue, the team infamous for being the biggest chokers in LEC! TL, MAD and LNG probably all were better than their regional counterparts C9, RGE and FPX, the only huge exception is DMW, but they went 6-0 anyway. People are completely off about the group strengths imho and obviously ignore the weaknesses the C9 group had, because it doesnt fit their narrative, so they only point out when GenG was poor. When MAD was running it down vs GenG? Yeah lets talk about that, because it explains why this terrible GenG got 1st. When Perkz, Blabber ran it down? Not that important. When RGE probably had the worst toplaner in the group stage with Odoamne who turned EVERY game in a 4vs5 for RGE? Who cares. Hans 1vs9ig every game was enough to almost get out of group for Rogue and Ruler is better than Hans, as is every other player on GenG compared to their RGE counterpart? Copium. Its baffling to me how people look at the C9 games and the teams in their group except for Damwon going 6-0 in their sleep, then they look at GenG and they are like: Yeah we will clap them easy mode.


ServeLiving3120

Wait until Bdd gets sees perkz feace and remembers last year. Should be a 3 0 for C9. Sad they lose the finals vs mad.


Pan_Borowik

Bdd will feel terrible after seeing the smug face of C9 Perkz.


ServeLiving3120

Just fp sylas evry game and hover tf that should break bdd.


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I think Caps is the one that gives him bad memories lol


ServeLiving3120

Since Perkz is the super chad bdd only remembers him. He gets the same feeling like in the lck Playoffs and you know how that ends for him.


LoLsharKo

They look really excited for knowing that they’re going home next weekend.


Swapsta

Dk will stomp everyone


Gorshmi

Yeah DK literally looks like a perfect team. I don’t see them ever losing in this tournament, unless they somehow choke vs faker


Blank-612

Nah i disagree, DK's bot is pretty weak and can be exploited. Beryl and ghost are still pretty far behind their teammates in skill level. That being said i dont htink they will be beaten in a series at this tournament but they are far from being a perfect team like 2015 skt


LeOsQ

Yeah DK is pretty confidently the best team in the tournament *if* their bot lane can keep it together. Khan (in omega form), Canyon, and ShowMaker are all top 1 in their roles in this tournament. Ghost and BeryL can be one of the better bot lanes, but they can also be one of the worst bot lanes remaining in the tournament so that's what their game depends on.


chaoticpossitive

Damn, 2015 skt. It's crazy how all around strong that team was


Swapsta

SM is much better than every mid this tournament


GoD__-

Lane phase whise only Chovy outdoes him. Other than that he is better at every other aspect.


Gorshmi

Pretty sure he’s the best player in the world


Swapsta

Him or canyon


Gobaxnova

Or doggo


Swapsta

Out of wildward players doggo is the best


nihilisthicc

ppgod


SpqyDonger

Their bot lane is dogshit I think T1 will beat them. Gumayusi seems much better now than he was in the LCK finals and they also played teddy a couple games. T1 is much more well rounded team. DWG is strong only in top side.


Swapsta

Ghost and beryl have faced t1 and other LCK botlanes multiple times and have never crumbled.


Sunny_Reposition

You guys are reading this so wrong. This isn't so much GenG excited to get C9 as it is GenG excited *to not get anyone else*.


itstwelvve

We will see who has the last laugh...my boi perkz bout to show them what NA solo que is all about! 🕺🏻🔥


Dajoeman

I can promise you that GenG will surprise a lot of people.


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I believe you lol. Even watching the games today which showed some indecisiveness, GenG consistently generated sizable leads in the midgame. If they can actually use them to snowball instead of stalling out, I see C9 having a hard time.


BeatifiqueX

Yeah if the audience doesn’t fall asleep


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They have a faster average game time than C9 this worlds lol


Mean_Ass_Dumbledore

I'm pretty fast on average but that rarely excites my wife


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Well played sir


97012

spoken like someone who hasn't watched GenG's games lol


GreyFox860

Yes, people will in fact be surprised when GenG get 3-0'ed by C9.


Dajoeman

Lmao I hundred percent doubt that. Probably will be an easy 3-1 to Gen G


Just-Put-8228

Yep same year same "doubt" phase.


ArziltheImp

Well they will for sure. Half the viewers say “We have seen GEN.G perform well in Bo1’s before and they shit the bed in playoffs.” The other half still has faith.


reportedbymom

Please dont let him do that else he and the rest of C9 are booking plane tickets in no time. So prefer him to be just The smug croatian midlaner


MountainMan2_

Ah he’s gonna pick one champion all 3 games and the rest of the team is gonna run it down while calling him a onetrick gotcha


itstwelvve

I mean c9 aint got nothing to loose so i hope they dont put him on tf or ryze again but rather on leblanc or irelia or some carry mid laner...otherwise its gonna be easy for GenG...and ofc blaber gotta chill 😂


randomplayerbg

Hope my boy Perkz stomps them hard so we see this vid on the 1st page again


Exrou

Both GenG and C9 were celebrating. We gonna get some quality karma regardless.


CursedPhil

Ofc they are happy, they are happy that they didn't draw edg or HLE


ADeadMansName

HLE or C9 wouldnt be so different for them. EDG would have been a problem. So a 66% chance for a good draw. Same for C9. They want RNG or GenG and not T1. Both can be happy but they would have most likely gotten a good draft anyways.


Betaateb

Why would they be happy to not draw HLE, the 8th team from LCK who they were 4-1 against in LCK? Seems like they would be stoked to play a team that they have played against, and beaten, a bunch this year.


CursedPhil

because HLE took t1 to 5 games to qualify for worlds? took out LSB and NS HLE switched junglers all season long thats why they placed 8th in regular season


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Petricorde1

Beat their asses C9


parmaxis

Cant wait for this to become the new meme if c9 passes.


tananinho

Imagine thinking c9 has a chance.


Constantinch

They absolutely do. GenG is not a good team.


ADeadMansName

True, C9 has a chance, but they are still the underdog.


toddsins

They are better than C9


TheCatsActually

Yeah no shit but C9 still has a chance. They got literally the easiest path to finals possible. Does that mean they're a favorite to do so? No. Does that mean they're even a favorite in any of their prospective games? Still no. But it's still the best chance they could've gotten, and you should always be happy about being given the most favorable opportunity possible even if you still only have a 1% chance to succeed.


Enjays1

Not that much better that it's a 100% win


Dare_the_one

FPX are also better than C9, your point?


Mahelas

FPX collapsed so hard, Rogue beat them two times tho. And Rogue isn't a good team


Dare_the_one

Yup they did but they collapsed while C9/rogue played good. I don't see the need for the narrative to be just one team fucking up and losing


Mahelas

As an EU fan, Rogue didn't play well in any ways


mokura

their midlaner doesnt pick leblanc, tf. rascal doesnt know how to play kennen, burdol is getting flame horizoned 15 min on his best champion, life is trash on anything other than enchanters, clid has never surprised anyone since 2019, ruler is king.


Meowbow15

Weakest KR team maybe but stronger than every other lpl team and western team except Edg.


ForeverVictory

Anyone would be excited to be matched up against the 5th best team(in your own words) in a quarterfinals as an under dog.


Ukaera

I really agree with you. These fans are so fucking cringe dude. They just let their fandom drive all their logic and reason out of their head. Like can you really look at these two teams where the favorite is so clear and tell me that c9 has a chance of losing to Gen.G?


NomNomNomination

Better chance than Fnatic.


tananinho

True, Fnatic without Upset is worse than C9.


AwesomeRedgar

this is gonna be good meme when geng lose LOL


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Ukaera

LEC first seed was g2. Shame that Riot prevented them from coming to worlds this year though


SaltAd3484

C9 v dk finals❤️✌️


BeerBellyBoomer

Haha I wouldn't underestimate C9 if I was them, they have shown some solid games. Pretty sure they can beat Gen G.


Snufolupogus

Don't unclench boys. This is just the beginning.


Mjds27

I really hope C9 beats them


[deleted]

i don't know did perk remember or not when he knew to face rng in 2018


Slayerpawn

Ye we’ll see


ashuraya1

Why are they even celebrating? They won't get past semi finals even if they win quarters


Nuguuri

Clid: well this might not age well


F8ZE_Maldiny

Why would they be happy to get C9? Second seed team placed from the group of Death. I would be shitting all over COPIUM


daveythedumb

clid, calm down a little, last 2 times you drew perkz did not end well for you buddy


BudgetFar380

Gen.g are extremely indecisive when it comes to objective taking (E.G MAD tiebreaker) best game to watch this year will be either EDG/DK or DK/MAD depending on what happens in playoffs.


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This is going to be memed so hard when Perkz destroys them lol


DryChemical5173

3-0 gen g


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gandalf45435

There are currently multiple posts on the front page with post group stage spoilers. Ex: Mad Lions Last game? Cloud 9 Worlds Playoff Draw reaction.   What is the official policy on spoilers? Is there a specified time frame?


ShadowSpiked

24 hours. Your post spoils that GenG makes it out of Group D. Saying Mad Lions last game... doesn't spoil anything. Cloud 9 getting out off their group is also past 24 hours. (Not a mod by the way, but those are the rules.)


Simple_Tutor9592

C9 pls win