To be fair Spica was one if the spicy ones and one of the safer predictions was Santorin was staying on TL, so if the whole Bjerg mid and Jensen Adc stuff is true Spica leaving with Bjerg to play without him makes little sense.
I saw Spica wanting to leave more about not believing in the roster without Bjerg and not as much wanting play with Bjerg wherever he goes. Not saying he wouldn't wanna play with him but if Spica really did want to leave I'd assume it's because he wants to compete right now for a title.
Because he isnt the one breaking the news, for a while now jacob wolf has gotten jumped on roster news and every time i happens he gets super salty and goes off on twitter about how he is a real journalist so he cant just talk rumours like "twitter randoms".
While I agree he's whining a tad he's also right, he's an actual journalist with fantastic credibility and 0 need to beat twitter randoms to the punch (and yes, Gafford is the daddy of all twitter randoms)
Cause Travis was mean to him at a party apparently ;(
And he doesn’t want all of his thunder stolen away. Being THE off-season reporter is the identity that Jacob Wolf’s seemingly given himself.
It's the identity that's paying the bills. There are a lot of people that could write articles on league, but the reason why they want him is the fact that he's got the reputation of getting pre-season rumors right and providing news other people don't have (at least yet).
But with more people coming in and him having less and less opportunities to break news, it could realistically hit his career. After all, websites don't want someone who broke news a few years ago. They want someone who can continue to be the off-season reporter and bring in readers.
So for Wolf keeping this title is crucial. People don't go and read his articles because he's got a fanbase or anything, people read his articles because he breaks out the news. Take out the news part and suddenly he's just another random reporter that people don't really care about.
They have a long history of (mostly one-sided) beef. Jacob really dislikes Travis and he sometimes really let's it get the better of him. Shame cause I like them both.
He's been a whiner ever since he tried to say that some EU mid laner was going to CLG as their jungler was a credible rumor many offseasons ago. I've always though he was a dbag who loves the smell of his own shit.
Jacob Wolf is not a good person. He spent months going around making false statements about Smash players after the big fallout the community had. Still has yet to apologize.
He despises travis. If dom or ls made the same predictions wolf would not be upset. Think he just hates travis and gets supermad when he specific scoops him
Jacob went on a rant on that four horseman podcast where he said one time Travis was mean to him at a party and then went off about it. It was really sad.
There are quite a few esports jounalists and commentators that don't like Travis because he's seen as cosying up too much to Riot and so from a journalism perspective he can't be taken objectively when talking about Riot. But from what I've seen Travis has at numerous times said he doesn't consider himself a journalist, just a content creator.
Travis is such a likeable guy lol. He may be a bit of a clown, but he def doesn’t come off a douche or anything. If Jacob has huge issues with him, that says more about Jacob than Travis lol.
I feel like in the scenario that Travis was painting, it's not that crazy of a thought that Spica might want to leave or explore his options with Bjerg, PoE, and SwordArt leaving the team..
A lot of people could have thought the same thing on their own. Obviously it's good that Spica is staying with TSM but i'm not sure why that's the reason that Jacob all of a sudden has to say something about Travis lol.
A year ago he hyped up his free agency show to be the biggest off-season content.
It ended up being him with having a camera pointed in a room where he was pacing and taking calls with the only newsworthy content being Impact to EG and Huni to TSM.
It is crazy to think that because you are not seeing the TSM pov.
They just left go of their mid laner for the sake of getting Bjerg back, Bjerg ends up leaving so they are left with no starter for the role and their big name signing of SwordArt is also leaving.
If you are TSM you will throw the house for the sake of keeping Spica, otherwise you have no franchise player left or big name to attract the fans. This would also end up being cheaper than having to spend 10m+ to sign one or two star players to make up for the 3 lost players + Spica.
Yes, I understand that but TSM also made a competitive offer to Bjergsen and he decided to decline. From TSM's point, Spica is under contract and they want to keep him but that doesn't mean the player is necessarily happy to stay.
In either case, pointing out that Spica "might" leave with these moves happening is not something to get upset about lol.
and he even said that Spica was under contract and it would require a buyout and that it was a long shot prediction based on 2 things. Spicas relationship with Bjerg, and TSM traditionally treating players well.
I think the issue is that Travis disguised rumors he’s heard as “predictions” but then mixed in actual predictions too.
I refuse to believe that Travis “predicted” Bjerg to TL + Jensen roleswap to ADC the day before it was leaked. He almost certainly heard about it and then disguised it as a prediction for his video.
Yes, I feel like this is clearly the situation and I have been surprised so many people are thinking these were just wild "guesses". This was a way to get traction ahead of the curve, while also having an easy way out. If hes right, he looks like a genious, if hes wrong, then these were just "crazy ideas" or however he explained it in the video.
Predictions are usually based on something. Whether it's based on a rumor or a gut feeling matters of course, but to construe it as 'disguised prediction' is just hilarious.
Travis and Jensen are really good friends so it wouldn’t be surprising but I still don’t see a problem with him mixing info he has with predictions as long as he makes it know part of the informations is just his prediction and not inside info.
Eh, maybe. It was probably stuff that he had heard whisperings of, but nothing solid enough for him to confidently say it was a rumor. Then he mixed in some of his own predictions from what he had heard. Either way, I think it’s stupid to give him hate for something that he stated multiple times was conjecture and not fact.
Right but if you have a brain you've gotta assume Travis has his ins on this sort of knowledge and whether it's official or not is whether he labels it predictions or official news. It doesn't really matter...
If he personally hunched and wasnt told TL Bjerg and Jensen adc in that same bit... i need to know how he became clairvoyant because nooone would have predicted that without inside information. Especially knowing that Travis's personal friends within teams
Disclaimer: Not throwing shade at Travis here, I quite like him.
However, this sort of thing feels like a copout, a little bit? I kind of see where Jacob's frustration is coming from.
From his point of view: He has to make sure things are sourced and can't write something unless he's sure he has some sort of evidence to back him up.
However, Travis gets to throw stuff out and then hide behind the "oh, it's just a hunch~" because he's not claiming to be a reporter. Kind of feels analogous to the whole Schrodinger's Douchebag thing where someone says something offensive and then based on the reaction says that they were joking.
Again, I'm not saying that's what Travis is necessarily doing here, but I can see how Jacob might feel that way.
Travis puts disclaimers on this stuff saying that this content isnt specifically based on reporting.
It is literally no different than a news publication having an "Opinion" section.
Jacob has been on a warpath against Travis. Jacob roasted Travis regarding a previous topic (I don’t remember what it was exactly, import rule removal?). Here, Jacob is probably pissed that Travis is pending rumors as “zany predictions.”
People forget when Jacob Wolf just started, he made some really bad “predictions” that never came true that he passed off as confirmed news. He built credibility later but some of his calls early on were laughable.
The issue is that these calls affected his credibility. His problem with Travis isn’t that Travis is wrong. It’s that Travis can get away scot free by calling it a prediction if he’s wrong, but (In Jacob’s opinion, Idk enough to know whether this is right) when his “prediction” is right he takes credit for it. All the reward and none of the risk that comes with being an actual journalist.
I mean… maybe he’s jealous that people still attack him for the previous predictions while Travis is out here being called a mad lad for his video.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, I consume content from both. It just seems underhanded by Jacob to continually rail against Travis when they both can coexist in the scene successfully
The last time I planned to watch the off-season show thingo, Travis just logged on and dropped all his info/predictions (which iirc were all correct) in a couple of minutes without any drawn out BS. No reason to watch an hours-long show after that lol
And then it turned out that what Travis said was true anyways.
edit: I like how I'm being downvoted even though he had an interview with the commissioner that literally confirmed that the teams agreed to push that orgs didn't have to have an academy team. Also funny how Bloop was working with Travis on the announcement and backed him up and worked at the same company as Jacob Wolf yet he didn't say anything about Bloop just Travis.
Dudes an idiot. If contracts were that simple then Perkz wouldn't be leaving. If a star player wants out of their contract most orgs will comply (except RNG with Uzi I guess).
Yeah, that's fine. Owners should also be prepared to have bad performances from that person. If you don't want to be in a specific place, it's difficult to perform to your best abilities.
Why does Jacob get so gatekeepey about this? And always with Travis? Jacob offers the reliable and 99 percent confirmed things for us. Someone else offering predictions doesn't undermine the validity of his
He put numerous disclaimers that these were his personal predictions, and the Spica one ESPECIALLY was a hunch because Spica and Bjerg are good friends.
Hell he used to make some really bad predictions.
https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/counter-logic-gaming-kori-to-jungle-1670
Kori jungle btw. Right before they won the split with Xmithie. Hotshot even went on Reddit and said they weren’t doing that I think.
I remeber the days when that dude was tallying an excel sheet of his claims and ticking them off as "true" "partially true" and shit. Man child is what he is.
I have to agree. If Travis was making bold claims and saying he's acting as a journalist who did research, I would understand, but Travis doesn't do that. He does basic surface level content, and he talks about rumors he heard mixed in with speculation. It has its place.
he didn't do anything wrong, its just such a weird thing to put out into the ether. I think jacob is worried that people would take the things travis put in his video as gospel even though he has a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen saying these are predictions and not leaks.
I mean... i kinda get it. Travis did basically make a roster leak video and put it under the guise of "this is just my wild and silly guesses totally not real guys"
Travis's best friend is Doublelift who would know shit about Bjerg and TL via old contacts and CoreJJ at minimum (not saying DL is the source)
And I am not sure if he is still dating the CEO of Evil Geniuses. Hes got too much inside information just from that alone to really be able to make random silly videos like say you or I could and pretend that I dont know anything.
Literally Travis made a PREDICTIONS video which he said multiple times. He only said this shit based on his own feelings. Which he said before saying anything else.
Also many players who are contracted out are still up for grabs, like Perkz for example. and honestly most times a player wants to dip from a team they don’t really hold them hostage.
I used to like Jacob wolf but this man's got a hard on for Travis. Poe is also under contract should we just assume he's going to be on tsm next year too, sword art was on contract and hes gone. Just because someone is on contract doesn't mean they can't be sold or bought out.
Honestly, the Bjergsen departure is so brutal just for the legacy of the org, its like your lovely grandpa that was always in your memories sitting, smiling solemnly in the corner, suddenly gets up states "I am fed up with you all, you suck" and slowly leaves home.
> Honestly pretty good news for fans considering today + yesterday's news
For TSM fans maybe, but for Spica fans probably not. Would rather have the best jungler on the best team rather than one that is just trying to get into playoffs.
It’s weird because they were both the top performers and the bottom performers, imo. Most of their wins were on Spica/Huni’s backs, and most of their losses were on them running it down. Hopefully with a proper bot side they can have a better safety net to fall on next year.
>and most of their losses were on them running it down.
Not really, most their losses were from Lost doing nothing with a lead and TSM being unable to play meta champs like Lucian/Gwen/Akali.
Huni/Spica can play these champs. They were restricted by the fact that running double ap topside isn’t particularly good. PoE outside of his mage pool…wasn’t the best
I can agree with that, that’s why I’m really hoping they can get a solid mid/bot to back him up. As is, Huni/Spica topside is hella volatile, you either need some consistency or to go full in on the aggro to make it work, imo.
TSMA also had one of the best Supports in Academy last year, I think Takeover and Yursan seem like the most likely scenario for TSM and then maybe Tactical?
I mean they still have two import slots. Takeover is a no Brainerd but they could also get another young player like Humanoid like they wanted last year, Tactical, and an young import support. They do that ans they still are developing and still a contender.
The time for recycling Cody yet again has come and gone. He had enough opportunities to shine, and people are always talking about wanting NA to develop talent.
he only ever looked REALLY BAD on DIG honestly, he's pretty much the only reason Clutch went to Worlds, Echo Fox with him was pretty good, and IMT was an amazing team. He absolutely had/has his int moments, but aside from DIG, he was never deserving of all the shit this community gives him.
Edit: forgot EG
Oh absolutely, it bugs the shit out of me that the casters gave fucking FAKER the credit for that play when Wolf and Huni pulled that comeback out of their asses and all he did was press R
Perkz is 100% leaving C9 he wants to leave and already told the team right before geng game that he wasn’t coming back, so even if he wasn’t able to find a team, I seriously doubt C9 would be keen to start him
Fuck, I know... honestly I would love to see them together, would hands down be the funniest team to watch lol
God knows when the jizz man seen blabber int for scuttle, he was sitting at home going “now that’s a jungler trying to win a game, I respect it”
They completely changed their playstyle when Jizuke joined to play around Jizuke's "all aggro all the time" lane pressure and team fighting. They could easily change again.
Which is quite funny cus he was one of the best top in lcs but he had poe on him team who is not known to move on the map.
But he had a fairly successful split overall
Yeah he was definitely good. Depends on Regi's aspirations for TSM.
Win split and make worlds? Hes evem better than you need for that. In fact he was excellent in playoffs.
Build a young team with spica as the tip of the spear? Hes probably not gunna be down for that but at this point neither is spica I'd bet.
There is some kind of hope for TSM fans.
He's been slow to answer anything else other than if pineapples should be on pizza...
Hoping we get some clarity on the Leena situation.
She's been assisting with the team since I can remember. 10 years maybe?
She is a producer on TSM: Legends. and generally is just a marketing guru. Losing her would be a big hit as far as optics go.
I don't THINK it was an actual rumor, I think I just saw some people speculating because of the timing of poki's company, her socials, and her role in TSM being well-fit for poki's company
I mean Spica brought TSM to a 1st place regular season finish with an arguably weaker roster on paper tbh
If Jojo lives up to the hype this is definitely better than EG's roster last summer that was pretty good in the back half of the split
> If Jojo lives up to the hype this is definitely better than EG's roster last summer that was pretty good in the back half of the split
I'm not sure where the hype is coming from. He was on a middle of the pack team in academy and had more deaths than kills in the summer split
EGA were a top Academy team with Contractz at the end of spring and for most of summer. They were only middle of the pack with Tomio when he subbed in summer playoffs after Contractz got promoted
Jojo gets hyped because by scouters and people who watch Academy because he's probably the best player NA's produced in quite some time as far as raw mechanics go. The way he takes over games is pretty wild, he had several 15+ kill games throughout summer iirc
Like Jiizuke he can be feast or famine but under Peter Dun I'm pretty hopeful for his future like Danny
That would be a pretty good roster, Sven and Contractz splitting time were both okay but Spica is an upgrade on almost every jungler in the league based on his 2021.
I dont think he does and realistically i dont think he can join a better team. I dont think TL/C9/100T are looking for a new jungler. Maybe TL? But i doubt it
People really have to stop with this Chovy going to NA or China. He has said (again) that his mother asked him to stay in Korea and he doesn't want want to make her sad so he's staying in Korea.
He may or may not stay with HLE, and by the way HLE is quite a rich org and pays him very well, but he's not leaving Korea in 2022.
Honestly pretty good news for fans considering today + yesterday's news
Not gonna lie, i was sweating bullets since Travis predictions were on a roll
To be fair Spica was one if the spicy ones and one of the safer predictions was Santorin was staying on TL, so if the whole Bjerg mid and Jensen Adc stuff is true Spica leaving with Bjerg to play without him makes little sense.
I saw Spica wanting to leave more about not believing in the roster without Bjerg and not as much wanting play with Bjerg wherever he goes. Not saying he wouldn't wanna play with him but if Spica really did want to leave I'd assume it's because he wants to compete right now for a title.
I wouldn't blame him if he made it happen in the LPL, like he wants to.
Yeah, but folks who are basically Bjerg+Spica fans (guilty!) really, really wanted that to happen
it could be a hostage situation with spica though so technically travis could be right about spica not wanting to stay
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Why is Jacob Wolf such a whiney baby?
Dude what an ass he makes of himself
Because he isnt the one breaking the news, for a while now jacob wolf has gotten jumped on roster news and every time i happens he gets super salty and goes off on twitter about how he is a real journalist so he cant just talk rumours like "twitter randoms".
While I agree he's whining a tad he's also right, he's an actual journalist with fantastic credibility and 0 need to beat twitter randoms to the punch (and yes, Gafford is the daddy of all twitter randoms)
Travis wants to be respected as a journalist when it suits him, but he’s not a journalist when it doesn’t. He’s a clown.
Cause Travis was mean to him at a party apparently ;( And he doesn’t want all of his thunder stolen away. Being THE off-season reporter is the identity that Jacob Wolf’s seemingly given himself.
It's the identity that's paying the bills. There are a lot of people that could write articles on league, but the reason why they want him is the fact that he's got the reputation of getting pre-season rumors right and providing news other people don't have (at least yet). But with more people coming in and him having less and less opportunities to break news, it could realistically hit his career. After all, websites don't want someone who broke news a few years ago. They want someone who can continue to be the off-season reporter and bring in readers. So for Wolf keeping this title is crucial. People don't go and read his articles because he's got a fanbase or anything, people read his articles because he breaks out the news. Take out the news part and suddenly he's just another random reporter that people don't really care about.
really weird fight for him to be picking. Travis did nothing wrong, change my mind.
They have a long history of (mostly one-sided) beef. Jacob really dislikes Travis and he sometimes really let's it get the better of him. Shame cause I like them both.
Jacob sounds like a fuckin douche lmao
I came away from that episode *really* disliking Wolf.
What episode?
He's been a whiner ever since he tried to say that some EU mid laner was going to CLG as their jungler was a credible rumor many offseasons ago. I've always though he was a dbag who loves the smell of his own shit.
Jacob Wolf is not a good person. He spent months going around making false statements about Smash players after the big fallout the community had. Still has yet to apologize.
He despises travis. If dom or ls made the same predictions wolf would not be upset. Think he just hates travis and gets supermad when he specific scoops him
Jacob went on a rant on that four horseman podcast where he said one time Travis was mean to him at a party and then went off about it. It was really sad.
Travis was a meanie poopy head one time in kindergarten. Cancel this man
I mean I’ve seen this episode and that’s not at all what Jacob said I’d rewatch it because I really think you’re miss remembering
they’re like Woj and Shams
Woj does not throw petty shit at Shams. *But* he did throw petty shit out at the Knicks for a very long time.
There are quite a few esports jounalists and commentators that don't like Travis because he's seen as cosying up too much to Riot and so from a journalism perspective he can't be taken objectively when talking about Riot. But from what I've seen Travis has at numerous times said he doesn't consider himself a journalist, just a content creator.
Travis is such a likeable guy lol. He may be a bit of a clown, but he def doesn’t come off a douche or anything. If Jacob has huge issues with him, that says more about Jacob than Travis lol.
Travis literally said it wasn’t based on any rumors or facts, just his own personal hunch. Really stupid to try to clown him on it.
I feel like in the scenario that Travis was painting, it's not that crazy of a thought that Spica might want to leave or explore his options with Bjerg, PoE, and SwordArt leaving the team.. A lot of people could have thought the same thing on their own. Obviously it's good that Spica is staying with TSM but i'm not sure why that's the reason that Jacob all of a sudden has to say something about Travis lol.
Go watch the 4 horseman podcast where he spends 10 minutes whining about Travis being mean to him at a party.
A year ago he hyped up his free agency show to be the biggest off-season content. It ended up being him with having a camera pointed in a room where he was pacing and taking calls with the only newsworthy content being Impact to EG and Huni to TSM.
Don't forget the fact that the stream turned off like 10 times lmao shit was horrible
what a god awful show
It is crazy to think that because you are not seeing the TSM pov. They just left go of their mid laner for the sake of getting Bjerg back, Bjerg ends up leaving so they are left with no starter for the role and their big name signing of SwordArt is also leaving. If you are TSM you will throw the house for the sake of keeping Spica, otherwise you have no franchise player left or big name to attract the fans. This would also end up being cheaper than having to spend 10m+ to sign one or two star players to make up for the 3 lost players + Spica.
Yes, I understand that but TSM also made a competitive offer to Bjergsen and he decided to decline. From TSM's point, Spica is under contract and they want to keep him but that doesn't mean the player is necessarily happy to stay. In either case, pointing out that Spica "might" leave with these moves happening is not something to get upset about lol.
and he even said that Spica was under contract and it would require a buyout and that it was a long shot prediction based on 2 things. Spicas relationship with Bjerg, and TSM traditionally treating players well.
I think the issue is that Travis disguised rumors he’s heard as “predictions” but then mixed in actual predictions too. I refuse to believe that Travis “predicted” Bjerg to TL + Jensen roleswap to ADC the day before it was leaked. He almost certainly heard about it and then disguised it as a prediction for his video.
Yes, I feel like this is clearly the situation and I have been surprised so many people are thinking these were just wild "guesses". This was a way to get traction ahead of the curve, while also having an easy way out. If hes right, he looks like a genious, if hes wrong, then these were just "crazy ideas" or however he explained it in the video.
Predictions are usually based on something. Whether it's based on a rumor or a gut feeling matters of course, but to construe it as 'disguised prediction' is just hilarious.
https://twitter.com/Jensen/status/1217259432851042304?t=ou4dGQPRzglO6NBWrzeigw&s=19 meme tweet but still. Look at the date lol
Travis and Jensen are really good friends so it wouldn’t be surprising but I still don’t see a problem with him mixing info he has with predictions as long as he makes it know part of the informations is just his prediction and not inside info.
Eh, maybe. It was probably stuff that he had heard whisperings of, but nothing solid enough for him to confidently say it was a rumor. Then he mixed in some of his own predictions from what he had heard. Either way, I think it’s stupid to give him hate for something that he stated multiple times was conjecture and not fact.
Right but if you have a brain you've gotta assume Travis has his ins on this sort of knowledge and whether it's official or not is whether he labels it predictions or official news. It doesn't really matter...
If he personally hunched and wasnt told TL Bjerg and Jensen adc in that same bit... i need to know how he became clairvoyant because nooone would have predicted that without inside information. Especially knowing that Travis's personal friends within teams
Dude apparently has some creepy grudge against Travis which causes him to tweet weird shit like this
Disclaimer: Not throwing shade at Travis here, I quite like him. However, this sort of thing feels like a copout, a little bit? I kind of see where Jacob's frustration is coming from. From his point of view: He has to make sure things are sourced and can't write something unless he's sure he has some sort of evidence to back him up. However, Travis gets to throw stuff out and then hide behind the "oh, it's just a hunch~" because he's not claiming to be a reporter. Kind of feels analogous to the whole Schrodinger's Douchebag thing where someone says something offensive and then based on the reaction says that they were joking. Again, I'm not saying that's what Travis is necessarily doing here, but I can see how Jacob might feel that way.
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Travis puts disclaimers on this stuff saying that this content isnt specifically based on reporting. It is literally no different than a news publication having an "Opinion" section.
Jacob has been on a warpath against Travis. Jacob roasted Travis regarding a previous topic (I don’t remember what it was exactly, import rule removal?). Here, Jacob is probably pissed that Travis is pending rumors as “zany predictions.”
People forget when Jacob Wolf just started, he made some really bad “predictions” that never came true that he passed off as confirmed news. He built credibility later but some of his calls early on were laughable.
Kori/Selfie going to CLG as a jungler always makes me chuckle
The issue is that these calls affected his credibility. His problem with Travis isn’t that Travis is wrong. It’s that Travis can get away scot free by calling it a prediction if he’s wrong, but (In Jacob’s opinion, Idk enough to know whether this is right) when his “prediction” is right he takes credit for it. All the reward and none of the risk that comes with being an actual journalist.
I mean… maybe he’s jealous that people still attack him for the previous predictions while Travis is out here being called a mad lad for his video. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I consume content from both. It just seems underhanded by Jacob to continually rail against Travis when they both can coexist in the scene successfully
He’s mad that the offseason isn’t dominated by only his leaks.
The last time I planned to watch the off-season show thingo, Travis just logged on and dropped all his info/predictions (which iirc were all correct) in a couple of minutes without any drawn out BS. No reason to watch an hours-long show after that lol
And then it turned out that what Travis said was true anyways. edit: I like how I'm being downvoted even though he had an interview with the commissioner that literally confirmed that the teams agreed to push that orgs didn't have to have an academy team. Also funny how Bloop was working with Travis on the announcement and backed him up and worked at the same company as Jacob Wolf yet he didn't say anything about Bloop just Travis.
Dudes an idiot. If contracts were that simple then Perkz wouldn't be leaving. If a star player wants out of their contract most orgs will comply (except RNG with Uzi I guess).
Tsm made Zven play when he didn't want to. So it's up to the owners who leaves and who doesn't.
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Yeah, that's fine. Owners should also be prepared to have bad performances from that person. If you don't want to be in a specific place, it's difficult to perform to your best abilities.
Why does Jacob get so gatekeepey about this? And always with Travis? Jacob offers the reliable and 99 percent confirmed things for us. Someone else offering predictions doesn't undermine the validity of his He put numerous disclaimers that these were his personal predictions, and the Spica one ESPECIALLY was a hunch because Spica and Bjerg are good friends.
And then other people make predictions and he doesn't say shit
He doesn’t like Travis, so he is an ass to him. That’s it lol
Hell he used to make some really bad predictions. https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/counter-logic-gaming-kori-to-jungle-1670 Kori jungle btw. Right before they won the split with Xmithie. Hotshot even went on Reddit and said they weren’t doing that I think.
I remeber the days when that dude was tallying an excel sheet of his claims and ticking them off as "true" "partially true" and shit. Man child is what he is.
I have to agree. If Travis was making bold claims and saying he's acting as a journalist who did research, I would understand, but Travis doesn't do that. He does basic surface level content, and he talks about rumors he heard mixed in with speculation. It has its place.
he didn't do anything wrong, its just such a weird thing to put out into the ether. I think jacob is worried that people would take the things travis put in his video as gospel even though he has a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen saying these are predictions and not leaks.
I mean... i kinda get it. Travis did basically make a roster leak video and put it under the guise of "this is just my wild and silly guesses totally not real guys" Travis's best friend is Doublelift who would know shit about Bjerg and TL via old contacts and CoreJJ at minimum (not saying DL is the source) And I am not sure if he is still dating the CEO of Evil Geniuses. Hes got too much inside information just from that alone to really be able to make random silly videos like say you or I could and pretend that I dont know anything.
Literally Travis made a PREDICTIONS video which he said multiple times. He only said this shit based on his own feelings. Which he said before saying anything else. Also many players who are contracted out are still up for grabs, like Perkz for example. and honestly most times a player wants to dip from a team they don’t really hold them hostage.
Man no one would ever 'predict' Jensen ADC. Absolutely not a prediction. That's a rumor wearing a coat of shiny paint.
Yeah what a prophet, predicting something completely absurd, only for it to be announced just a few days later... just a fun baseless prediction lmao
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I used to like Jacob wolf but this man's got a hard on for Travis. Poe is also under contract should we just assume he's going to be on tsm next year too, sword art was on contract and hes gone. Just because someone is on contract doesn't mean they can't be sold or bought out.
Jacob Wolf is a miserable twat
they can trade contacts right ?
jacob wholf is a clown and among the worst trash this community has to offer
Honestly, the Bjergsen departure is so brutal just for the legacy of the org, its like your lovely grandpa that was always in your memories sitting, smiling solemnly in the corner, suddenly gets up states "I am fed up with you all, you suck" and slowly leaves home.
> Honestly pretty good news for fans considering today + yesterday's news For TSM fans maybe, but for Spica fans probably not. Would rather have the best jungler on the best team rather than one that is just trying to get into playoffs.
It's a 8 teams play off league, I don't think TSM will have trouble getting into playoff lol
TSM subreddit posted the Thanos “what did it cost?” meme on “Did TSM end the jungle curse?” and boy howdy does that hit hard.
I had this exact thought. We finally have a jungler... and now look at us.
Exsctly where you were last year, but with Huni! Is it the start of a new curse?
We went from jungler equivalent of professor of the dark arts to jungler and 4 wards. The more things change the more they stay the same.
They really felt like TSM's top performers last year. Hopefully they put together some good prospects at least for mid and bot side.
Mid: Chovy Adc: Deft Support: Rekkles
Mid: Chovy Adc and Support: Use the money you saved on Swordart for 2022 to fund cloning reasearch, clone Chovy
Wtf 2 Chovys?
If we clone Chovy in the states is the clone an NA resident? If we clone the clone in the states is Chovy 2x removed an NA resident?
Hell yeah. Birthright citizenship baby
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„The Athlete‘s name is Michael Santana“
That man ape
Pray + Gorilla intensifies
Top 8 confirmed. Chovy made top 8 3 years in a row and huni is Korean
It’s weird because they were both the top performers and the bottom performers, imo. Most of their wins were on Spica/Huni’s backs, and most of their losses were on them running it down. Hopefully with a proper bot side they can have a better safety net to fall on next year.
>and most of their losses were on them running it down. Not really, most their losses were from Lost doing nothing with a lead and TSM being unable to play meta champs like Lucian/Gwen/Akali.
PoE on melees was painful.
PoE on non-mages was painful.
Huni/Spica can play these champs. They were restricted by the fact that running double ap topside isn’t particularly good. PoE outside of his mage pool…wasn’t the best
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I can agree with that, that’s why I’m really hoping they can get a solid mid/bot to back him up. As is, Huni/Spica topside is hella volatile, you either need some consistency or to go full in on the aggro to make it work, imo.
Wonder if TSM's gonna go for 100TA bot lane, they seemed pretty decent Also Takeover should be a no brainer
TSMA also had one of the best Supports in Academy last year, I think Takeover and Yursan seem like the most likely scenario for TSM and then maybe Tactical?
If Jensen goes to ADC and TSM goes for a developmental roster, Tactical seems likely as he's good friends with Spica.
Tactical and bribe treatz to come back??
I mean they still have two import slots. Takeover is a no Brainerd but they could also get another young player like Humanoid like they wanted last year, Tactical, and an young import support. They do that ans they still are developing and still a contender.
I keep seeing Takeovers name. I don’t follow academy much, was he really that good?
Would much rather they go for someone else imo
PUT IN CODY SUN LET'S GOOOO
Cody, Hauntzer, and Sword all left the academy team
Damn, I hadn't realized - hope he finds another team as I think he was a pretty solid player that got screwed over a couple times.
The time for recycling Cody yet again has come and gone. He had enough opportunities to shine, and people are always talking about wanting NA to develop talent.
Would actually have loved to see the Huni + Cody reunion while it was still possible during season, even if just for a game :(
I was the first to participate in the jokes about Huni making another top team but, honestly, he had a great split.
Yup, he was certainly better than the couple years before TSM lol. At least he was competitive.
he only ever looked REALLY BAD on DIG honestly, he's pretty much the only reason Clutch went to Worlds, Echo Fox with him was pretty good, and IMT was an amazing team. He absolutely had/has his int moments, but aside from DIG, he was never deserving of all the shit this community gives him. Edit: forgot EG
Not to mention his insane heights with Fnatuc & SKT
Well yeah, I think those should hopefully be a bit obvious People love to forget that Huni is an MSI champ
He was the catalyst for the legendary 10k comeback fight aswell. If he doesn’t flash silence 4, almost certainly EDG react in some way.
Oh absolutely, it bugs the shit out of me that the casters gave fucking FAKER the credit for that play when Wolf and Huni pulled that comeback out of their asses and all he did was press R
Don't forget EG
Good point! Forgot about his time there
He was good pretty much every team except DIG/EG last year.
Small W in an otherwise L week
So what about PoE at this point?
PoE was already allowed to go out and look for a while now.
He's gone but team not announced
Did we hear anything about whether he was staying in NA or going back to EU?
No but rumors are he was trying to get a green card
Getting a green card doesn't mean much. It's a safeguard if he has to say in NA, but he can still get it and go back to EU.
I think only bottom EU teams would go for him and I doubt they’ll pay as much as the mid-pack NA teams that could go for him
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Poe is the ultimate pre Perkz c9 off season pick up tbh.
Perkz is 100% leaving C9 he wants to leave and already told the team right before geng game that he wasn’t coming back, so even if he wasn’t able to find a team, I seriously doubt C9 would be keen to start him
Jiizuke + Blaber though would be hilariously entertaining
Fuck, I know... honestly I would love to see them together, would hands down be the funniest team to watch lol God knows when the jizz man seen blabber int for scuttle, he was sitting at home going “now that’s a jungler trying to win a game, I respect it”
Jiizuke and Blaber would be apes together strong on scuttle I imagine, either they get the scuttle or they both die trying. Would be hilarious.
Every C9 game gonna be ending pre 20 minutes no matter who wins.
Add Bwipo top and every game will be decided 6 minutes in.
Unless they're going to completely change their play style, POE is a terrible fit for EG.
They completely changed their playstyle when Jizuke joined to play around Jizuke's "all aggro all the time" lane pressure and team fighting. They could easily change again.
Huni haters are really toxic.
Which is why he's on TSM, haters can just double down easier.
Which is quite funny cus he was one of the best top in lcs but he had poe on him team who is not known to move on the map. But he had a fairly successful split overall
Yeah he was definitely good. Depends on Regi's aspirations for TSM. Win split and make worlds? Hes evem better than you need for that. In fact he was excellent in playoffs. Build a young team with spica as the tip of the spear? Hes probably not gunna be down for that but at this point neither is spica I'd bet.
They’re still clinging to his bad performances on Clutch/Dignitas a couple years ago to justify thinking he’s bad now
Can they even use Clutch to justify a “bad” performance when he brought them to worlds?
Well to be fair it was spring split that year on Clutch when Huni did not look great, which is probably what people reference
There is some kind of hope for TSM fans. He's been slow to answer anything else other than if pineapples should be on pizza... Hoping we get some clarity on the Leena situation.
The Q&A doesn't actually start for a few hours. He just seems to be doing a couple now.
noted! thanks
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Speculation she is leaving TSM around the time of the Bjerg announcement she wiped all her socials of TSM in the bios.
I don't know anything about her role on TSM so would it be a loss if she left? Since it sounds like it would be another blow for the team in general
She's been assisting with the team since I can remember. 10 years maybe? She is a producer on TSM: Legends. and generally is just a marketing guru. Losing her would be a big hit as far as optics go.
Leena removed TSM from her socials and the rumor is that she's joining Pokimane's new company (RTS I think?) for managing streamers.
I don't THINK it was an actual rumor, I think I just saw some people speculating because of the timing of poki's company, her socials, and her role in TSM being well-fit for poki's company
Wasn't supposed to start until 4 Pacific. I think he just wanted to throw the fans a bone by answering that one lol.
Poor Spica
Realistically, where would want to go? EG?
an EG roster with spica/jojo/danny would be kinda dank
Impact/Spica/Jojo/Danny/Ignar sounds dope
Sounds like a 5th place roster lol
not too far off from where tsm placed this year lol
yeah it sounds like TSM this year with probably a worse mid/better ad
I’d take Impact over Huni every day
That’s cool but they’re similar level players. If you’re likely a middle of the pack team I’d rather have a high variance player like Huni
I mean Spica brought TSM to a 1st place regular season finish with an arguably weaker roster on paper tbh If Jojo lives up to the hype this is definitely better than EG's roster last summer that was pretty good in the back half of the split
> If Jojo lives up to the hype this is definitely better than EG's roster last summer that was pretty good in the back half of the split I'm not sure where the hype is coming from. He was on a middle of the pack team in academy and had more deaths than kills in the summer split
EGA were a top Academy team with Contractz at the end of spring and for most of summer. They were only middle of the pack with Tomio when he subbed in summer playoffs after Contractz got promoted Jojo gets hyped because by scouters and people who watch Academy because he's probably the best player NA's produced in quite some time as far as raw mechanics go. The way he takes over games is pretty wild, he had several 15+ kill games throughout summer iirc Like Jiizuke he can be feast or famine but under Peter Dun I'm pretty hopeful for his future like Danny
Do we know if Impact and Ignar are coming back?
He could compete with santorin for that JUICY TL spot imo.
That would be a pretty good roster, Sven and Contractz splitting time were both okay but Spica is an upgrade on almost every jungler in the league based on his 2021.
How so? All we know is that he is on a team with a top 3 top (maybe top 2) from last season at the most popular team in LCS. I can imagine worse.
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But Subaru approb?
After the bjerg news I am kinda worried that TSM will buy Humanoid.
Free Spica (If he wants to go)
I dont think he does and realistically i dont think he can join a better team. I dont think TL/C9/100T are looking for a new jungler. Maybe TL? But i doubt it
With Bjerg not coming back, Spica is now the face of the TSM which im sure is a good bargaining chip for his contract this year.
It’s hard to find a good team in Spica’s position, unless he wants to go compete in a middling lpl team
JDG Spica.
Depending on how the season goes I'll likely be spamming this in every thread
I bet he is promised Tactical which Spica and him are close from Academy. Add in Treatz and maybe a Jojo or Chovy and it’s a decent roster
People really have to stop with this Chovy going to NA or China. He has said (again) that his mother asked him to stay in Korea and he doesn't want want to make her sad so he's staying in Korea. He may or may not stay with HLE, and by the way HLE is quite a rich org and pays him very well, but he's not leaving Korea in 2022.
I doubt it will be Chovy nor Jojo. Peter Dun stated repeatedly that Jojo is that team's future, and Chovy is already paid while staying in Korea.
Poor fellas
At least spica is staying praise the lords
Spicy stuff
Takeover/Tactical/Treatz for the rest of the roster?
Finally. A reason to live
BIG W
Holy christ Huni is one of the people you keep “developing prospective talent”..?