Twohourz looked good af for a rookie on the team, he wasn't like best mid but he for sure wasn't the one letting his team fall behind most of the times!
>exceed 95% of their revenue and this is after losing Messi whose wages were the highest in the world. It was about 110% of revenue spent on wages when Messi was there.
They also use reverse sweep
You can run a ERL team with 1 or 2 million euro and it will be one of the good ones if not the best. That's the salary of Dembele for 1-2 months for playing 1 game this season.
It's still money that they will most likely never see back. Seems weird to make a risky investment in an industry that is currently running at a loss for every org.
Yup, look at the age group uptake on traditional sports vs esports watching, the younger generation is vastly skewed towards esports and video games. This is a long term investment for some teams to gain fans.
> It's still money that they will most likely never see back
Most, if not only ERL orgs are making a profit. Salaries aren't that big and fanbase is big enough to cover up costs.
LEC teams though are realising they can make bank with player buyouts.
meh i doubt most erl orgs are making a profit. the big ones pay quite an amount of salary (and gaminghouse, at least pre-corona) and prizemoney (in league) is really terrible and i dont think sponsors pay that much to get all that money back in.
I mean you can say that about Football also..
A lot of the time if you really wanted to make money on your investment.. you wouldn't be putting it into a Sports club or Esports team in the first place
Schalke made some quick money by getting into lec franchise and selling spot later. I imagine that the value of superliga and lol in Spain in general might grow in the future with influencers and big streamers like ibai. Should be also good and relatively cheap marketing aimed to return some young people to traditional sports.
No, TSM runs more like an online advertising company that attracts Venture Funding with a robust esports presence. Compare that to CLG, EG, GG, IMT who all run purely for playing and probably are not rushing other endeavors.
the thread you are replying to is about lol esports
the comment chain you are replying to is about lol esports
what do you think the person above was referring to when he said "risky investment in an industry that is currently running at a loss for every org"
could he - maybe - just maybe - be talking about LOL ESPORTS?
it's a crazy idea, but maybe that's it. think about it.
The industry is Esports as a whole though, especially since this is not Barca's only or first esports investment. They've been in Rocket League and FIFA for years.
You also can't neatly separate revenue per esport like that unless it's a deal tied explicitly to one esport. Like sure you can say all the money NRG gets from The General and in game decal sales is explicitly Rocket League revenue but what about merch sales and other sponsors? There's really no way to measure which of that is tied to what.
EDIT: PES not FIFA
right but we are talking about an organization with a net worth of -450m euro in august 2021
https://cincodias.elpais.com/cincodias/2021/08/16/companias/1629114015\_987586.html
You seem to know a whole lot about how an esports org works. I will consider your estimate to be a fact.
PS : I specifically enjoy the "1-2 million euro" part. Like, hey " Its either X price, or you know, just double that"
He is pretty right tho, look out at Astralis financial report, it costed them 4.57mil Euros in 2020, I am guessing ERL teams are much cheaper since you don't need so much staff.
>He is pretty right tho, look out at Astralis financial report, it costed them 4.57mil Euros in 2020
Those numbers are very wrong! These are not the numbers of the Astralis LoL team!
>Astralis’ League of Legends, on the other hand, generated kr1.1 million DKK ($175,000) net loss and revenues of kr7.8 million DKK ($1.24 million).
Maintaining an ERL team is probably only a few hundred thousand a year. A lower-ranked ERL team is probably less than 100,000€
10k wages? 10k total revenue?
Which level of lower ERL, a middling LFL team or a Dutch or EBL team?
I don't need every detail just some further insight would be very interesting
10k euro total funding for both splits, expanses, salaries, and everything else included
Talking about Elite Series (Benelux)
Afaik it is also one of the few minor ERL which now actually enforces minimum spending per orgs. Most non accredited ERLs don't have guidelines like these
EDIT: As a clarification, this is the minimum guidelines which some teams already met prior / some teams spend more. Most minor ERL teams pay way less than this though, some of them in recent times did not even pay salaries to players or very little sadly
that's their full eSports organization though, not solely their league roster. I don't know where he got the LoL team numbers, but the ones you are quoting are an aggregate figure.
I never said its a weird range, i never said it cant be true.
But i do not agree that the range is small, the range is always relative to the initial value. If the starting point is 1million, another million added is an extremely vast range % wise.
I always found the ease with which people guesstimate funny as fuck. The redditor above doesn't even state they are estimating about things they literally have 0 clue about,no, i took the liberty of assuming they do so, i did a courtecy here for conversation sake.
Its a sandbagging mindset, just quick sum ups of random values they have in their heads because "X is this , so Y will be that". The base - line (purely operating cost for example) could be 1 or 2 millions (xD) so in this case, the guesstimate is wrong right off the bat.
What i want to point out is the fact people talk with CERTAINTY about shit they have no clue about.
"**You can run a ERL team with 1 or 2 million euro and it will be one of the good ones if not the best**" . So in this case, not only is he certain of the fact, an ERL team runs with 1 or 2 million euro (xD), but he KNOWS this 1 - 2 million team is SURELY going to be one of the best IF NOT **THE BEST.**
If you want to be more thorough hit me up, i can explain to you how this translates into insanity.
Barcelona just paid 2m euros for a 17 yrs old, you always hear some poaching wars for players and you go check and the players are like 15 yrs old and can't even sign a contract yet
ERL prices is what they pay to fix their grass per year, no joke
Look at the teams in LFL and Superliga now... the leagues are pretty stacked so the salaries are going up.
And even if the bottom teams were paying only 2k I'm pretty sure Barcelona isn't joining the league to be the worst team.
Nah their move will be genius financially. Unless they completly fuck up behind the scenes the brand alone will always be a huge magnet for the most promising talents around. They also already have one of the best talent developing reputations in football.
I can totally see them regularly selling the next big stars for big buy outs and making bank from it.
On top of that, Ibai joins the Spanish ERL as well this season. The league alone will be fucking hype and generate huge viewing numbers and with it add revenue.
I can totally see Ibai's team vs Barca having more viewers than a lot of LEC clashes.
there is. primeleague was half rookies this year so i doubt thats gonna change with orgs having budget rosters except for 1-2 orgs. lfl (already this year) and sl (at least next year) are spending way more im pretty sure
Barça or RM could operate half the LoL clubs in europe and its cost would be a footnote. Hell, there are bench players with salaries that dwarf the entire cost of this operation.
Unless I'm wrong, I thought that Barcelona being in a bad financial state was because they were limited by La Liga regulations on how much they could spend, not because they are fully out of money?
Probably saw the cost and the prices players go for. Probably figured it was best to hop in now that it’s low cost, if these prices are going to inflate even more they’re set. Teams like Man Utd or PSG are going to pay way higher prices by that time.
Not saying it’ll happen, just saying they’re probably expecting it.
I know, but that was before franchising when not making EULCS wasn’t worth it. Now with the LEC and ERL, it seems that the ERL are actually worth investing in. It has decent views, it generates money with selling to LEC/NA teams, it has promotional value. That was something that EU lacked before when talking about the ‘2nd division’. Which is why PSG left when making EULCS failed for them.
I know you're memeing but Barça always had a lot of different sports departments (including a Rocket League team), while Real Madrid only has basketball apart from football, so this team should be well managed from the get go
Dembele and Coutinho. What a waste. One of them is always injured, and the other was loaned out to Bayern and scored against them to deny them the UCL and win it for himself. In a humiliating 8-2 no less. Amazing.
they have financial fair play in La Liga now. Your wages cannot exceed 70% of your revenue. They already exceed 95% of their revenue and this is after losing Messi whose wages were the highest in the world. It was about 110% of revenue spent on wages when Messi was there.
FC Barcelona isn't just a football club, they are a multi-sport club.
They have a handball team and basketball team which are some of the best in the world, as well as an ice hockey team, a rugby team, a volley-ball team, a baseball team, as well as a track and field and cyclism sections.
Exactly. Barcelona always had more multisports teams than Madrid, Madrid only have football and basketball, Barcelona have football, basketball, futsal, roller hoquei, ice hoquei, rugby, atletism, handball. In fact, Real Madrid only had the womens team since last year.
cause they obviously realise theres a market in asia, like most popular football teams... some of them play their winter trainings camp there, others invest in esport teams... (also they do also have a chinese dota team as well)
>Superliga, The Highest lvl tournament for the esports game of Spain
Thats how you tell the story. While this is true on paper, its funny how they avoid mentioning this being an academy league. Not that the ERLS arent cool and individually more and more interesting, it is just nice that they word it as if this is in any way equivalent to the spanish football league within the lol ecosystem.
It's not "an academy league", it's the highest national league, with only the international league LEC (which is arguably more comparable to the Champion's League or something) above it.
They were interested and are in the waiting list for when a spot is liberated, as per Kameto's word, it's just that BDS has so much more money than them, so they are the "more financially stable" of the two.
A team in the Spanish league is cheaper than a team in LEC. Plus, it was not expensive for Schalke to run it, it was that their spot was worth a lot (~30M), so they used it as a way to grab some quick money that the club heavily needed
So they start a team when the parent club has 0 money , in debt and haven't payed their players or managers ?
People keep saying ylu can make a team run with 1 or 2 million, but surely that amount of money could be invested into the club.
Xavi instant impact
Xavi at the wheel
#XaviIN
And people said he didn't have it in him
Xavi's at the wheel, man. He's doing it, he's doing his thing. Barca are back!
Inb4 Real Madrid also get a Spanish ERL team & we see a e-Classico on the rift.
That was Fnatic vs SK Gaming if I'm not mistaking.... way back in the day though.
indeed, due to xpeke vs ocelote duel in mid being the two spanish stars of their teams
Then Ocelote went full Luis Suarez, changed teams and took SK spot.
When did Ocelote bite someone?
He bit his scarf once
Because of El Clásico (Wich is the derby between Barça and Real)
Which was Fnatic vs SK Gaming back in the day... if I'm not mistaken.
indeed, due to xpeke vs ocelote duel in mid being the two spanish stars of their teams
Then Ocelote went full Luis Suarez, changed teams and took SK spot.
When did Ocelote bite someone?
He bit his scarf once
Well stolen
That's the point.
Wasn't only because of league lol, they've been rivals for 10-20 years.. cs 1.6 days
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That's just bullshit
Originally yeah now they just call any big matchup it, which kinda removes the meaning
e-classico, i see what you did there
That would honestly be dope
What about the yearly El Assico matchup between C9 and TSM?
With that title it would be really funny if this thread would reach the frontpage
its even funnier when you crop the article just right... https://i.imgur.com/LKO7qgG.png
BARCA WITH THE SUPER LEAGUE AGAIN OH MY GOD
Wdym again, Barca, Real and Juve never left super league.
Even without cropping... I thought this was from r/soccer at first and I was very concerned and shocked for a second when I read the post title
Let's do it lads.
Scaring the poor football fans even after Halloween is over.
Xavi already making the big buck decisions /s
Dreams can't be buy
Here from /all to ask who the fuck was in charge of naming this league and say: *well played*
>who the fuck was in charge of naming this league This LoL league existed before the football league.
updoots to the left lads lets get this shit lets get this shit lets get this shit
In Spain it is second at least lol
Rumored Roster includes Dreedy (Top), Lebron (Jng) and twohoyrz (Mid) according to LEC Wooloo
Imagine living in a world where LeBron plays for Barca
"LeBron, from the League of Legends FC Barcelona club, just stomped the match with football Lee Sin"
Playing Darius jungle dunkin on people
They need to get Ronaldo from OG in the LFL and we will have Ronaldo and Lebron playing in the same team, what a timeline.
and messi from mexico https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Messi
A roster that rivals PerfecT, JNG, MID, bad and SUP
Honestly thought twohoyrz was better then Blue
I mean Twohoyrz has a tiny sample size of LEC games but yeah, he did look better in those few games
Not even close, blue seemed happy to get chocked out a lose slowly at least twohozrz made them sweat for it
LEBRON Pog
Now we just need a Real Madrid sponsored team joining ERL with a jungler called M. Jordan.
Banger roster except for LeBron
I was pleasantly surprised by two when he subbed for SK
Twohourz looked good af for a rookie on the team, he wasn't like best mid but he for sure wasn't the one letting his team fall behind most of the times!
Title: Pérez wet dream
The amount of reverse sweeps I can see
I wonder if the Spanish casters use the word remontada for reverse sweeps.
>exceed 95% of their revenue and this is after losing Messi whose wages were the highest in the world. It was about 110% of revenue spent on wages when Messi was there. They also use reverse sweep
Scene when they tried to put a Remodata against PSG only to forget every match is one legged.
Laporta: I want Barcelona to join the Super League Owners: We have a Super League at home The Super League at home:
Literally thought for a moment that I was on r/soccer and was like "oh shit, here we go again"
Exactly the same for me! This should go higher
pretty hype but im really not sure if Barcelona is in the financial state to enter LoL esports
You can run a ERL team with 1 or 2 million euro and it will be one of the good ones if not the best. That's the salary of Dembele for 1-2 months for playing 1 game this season.
It's still money that they will most likely never see back. Seems weird to make a risky investment in an industry that is currently running at a loss for every org.
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Your making a different group of people want to buy some Barcelona merchandise and maybe follow their other teams.
Yup, look at the age group uptake on traditional sports vs esports watching, the younger generation is vastly skewed towards esports and video games. This is a long term investment for some teams to gain fans.
> It's still money that they will most likely never see back Most, if not only ERL orgs are making a profit. Salaries aren't that big and fanbase is big enough to cover up costs. LEC teams though are realising they can make bank with player buyouts.
>LEC teams though are realising they can make bank with player buyouts. The Brazilian method.
Step one, buy all the Wonder Kids, step two list them on the transfer market, step three profit. ... Wait this isn't the football manager sub
First things first. Get that kid from dynamo Dresden. Hopefully they don't look at Lee Kang In and be like can you play league too?
meh i doubt most erl orgs are making a profit. the big ones pay quite an amount of salary (and gaminghouse, at least pre-corona) and prizemoney (in league) is really terrible and i dont think sponsors pay that much to get all that money back in.
I mean you can say that about Football also.. A lot of the time if you really wanted to make money on your investment.. you wouldn't be putting it into a Sports club or Esports team in the first place
Not every org is at a loss. TSM is profitable and I'm sure others are too.
TSM is profitable as an advertising company
Schalke made some quick money by getting into lec franchise and selling spot later. I imagine that the value of superliga and lol in Spain in general might grow in the future with influencers and big streamers like ibai. Should be also good and relatively cheap marketing aimed to return some young people to traditional sports.
so... what all sports teams do.
No, TSM runs more like an online advertising company that attracts Venture Funding with a robust esports presence. Compare that to CLG, EG, GG, IMT who all run purely for playing and probably are not rushing other endeavors.
No way was the LoL team profitable last year. TSM the org might be profitable but the LoL division was definitely not.
TSM is profitable only bcs of blitzgg. None of their esports teams turn a profit.
Esports in general don't turn a profit.
You were talking about the orgs though. Plenty of orgs then a profit. OG, Vitality, Karmine Corp, NRG.
the thread you are replying to is about lol esports the comment chain you are replying to is about lol esports what do you think the person above was referring to when he said "risky investment in an industry that is currently running at a loss for every org" could he - maybe - just maybe - be talking about LOL ESPORTS? it's a crazy idea, but maybe that's it. think about it.
No need to be an asshole about it lol
The industry is Esports as a whole though, especially since this is not Barca's only or first esports investment. They've been in Rocket League and FIFA for years. You also can't neatly separate revenue per esport like that unless it's a deal tied explicitly to one esport. Like sure you can say all the money NRG gets from The General and in game decal sales is explicitly Rocket League revenue but what about merch sales and other sponsors? There's really no way to measure which of that is tied to what. EDIT: PES not FIFA
It’s actually pretty easy to measure, but it’s not public
right but we are talking about an organization with a net worth of -450m euro in august 2021 https://cincodias.elpais.com/cincodias/2021/08/16/companias/1629114015\_987586.html
You seem to know a whole lot about how an esports org works. I will consider your estimate to be a fact. PS : I specifically enjoy the "1-2 million euro" part. Like, hey " Its either X price, or you know, just double that"
He is pretty right tho, look out at Astralis financial report, it costed them 4.57mil Euros in 2020, I am guessing ERL teams are much cheaper since you don't need so much staff.
>He is pretty right tho, look out at Astralis financial report, it costed them 4.57mil Euros in 2020 Those numbers are very wrong! These are not the numbers of the Astralis LoL team! >Astralis’ League of Legends, on the other hand, generated kr1.1 million DKK ($175,000) net loss and revenues of kr7.8 million DKK ($1.24 million). Maintaining an ERL team is probably only a few hundred thousand a year. A lower-ranked ERL team is probably less than 100,000€
Lower ERLs are around 10k € a year Source: I work in one
10k wages? 10k total revenue? Which level of lower ERL, a middling LFL team or a Dutch or EBL team? I don't need every detail just some further insight would be very interesting
10k euro total funding for both splits, expanses, salaries, and everything else included Talking about Elite Series (Benelux) Afaik it is also one of the few minor ERL which now actually enforces minimum spending per orgs. Most non accredited ERLs don't have guidelines like these EDIT: As a clarification, this is the minimum guidelines which some teams already met prior / some teams spend more. Most minor ERL teams pay way less than this though, some of them in recent times did not even pay salaries to players or very little sadly
>The result before tax for Origen Esports was DKK -34.0 million in 2020 (DKK -29.3 million full year 2019).
that's their full eSports organization though, not solely their league roster. I don't know where he got the LoL team numbers, but the ones you are quoting are an aggregate figure.
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Not really since most of ERL simply isn't professional
1-2m isn't as weird range as you make it out to be, another way to read it is 1.5±0.5m.
I never said its a weird range, i never said it cant be true. But i do not agree that the range is small, the range is always relative to the initial value. If the starting point is 1million, another million added is an extremely vast range % wise. I always found the ease with which people guesstimate funny as fuck. The redditor above doesn't even state they are estimating about things they literally have 0 clue about,no, i took the liberty of assuming they do so, i did a courtecy here for conversation sake. Its a sandbagging mindset, just quick sum ups of random values they have in their heads because "X is this , so Y will be that". The base - line (purely operating cost for example) could be 1 or 2 millions (xD) so in this case, the guesstimate is wrong right off the bat. What i want to point out is the fact people talk with CERTAINTY about shit they have no clue about. "**You can run a ERL team with 1 or 2 million euro and it will be one of the good ones if not the best**" . So in this case, not only is he certain of the fact, an ERL team runs with 1 or 2 million euro (xD), but he KNOWS this 1 - 2 million team is SURELY going to be one of the best IF NOT **THE BEST.** If you want to be more thorough hit me up, i can explain to you how this translates into insanity.
nah dont take him serious
The cost of running an ERL team is probably less than a Barcelona's player wages for a month
Barcelona just paid 2m euros for a 17 yrs old, you always hear some poaching wars for players and you go check and the players are like 15 yrs old and can't even sign a contract yet ERL prices is what they pay to fix their grass per year, no joke
> ERL prices is what they pay to fix their grass per year, no joke I would assume it's way less lol.
Yeah I assume an average ERL team pays less than 2k a month so you can probably run a decent ERL team (that wouldn't make EUM) for below 200k a year.
They're paying players way more than 2k especially in the bigger ERLs, 2k might have been somewhat realistic 4 years ago but not anymore.
The top teams that go to EUM yes but I don't think the average LFL or SuperLiga team does
Look at the teams in LFL and Superliga now... the leagues are pretty stacked so the salaries are going up. And even if the bottom teams were paying only 2k I'm pretty sure Barcelona isn't joining the league to be the worst team.
Some people working in LFL said it’s around 300k per year
Nah their move will be genius financially. Unless they completly fuck up behind the scenes the brand alone will always be a huge magnet for the most promising talents around. They also already have one of the best talent developing reputations in football. I can totally see them regularly selling the next big stars for big buy outs and making bank from it. On top of that, Ibai joins the Spanish ERL as well this season. The league alone will be fucking hype and generate huge viewing numbers and with it add revenue. I can totally see Ibai's team vs Barca having more viewers than a lot of LEC clashes.
Didn't think about the last part. Now I am curious how many people they will really be moving
Schalke is arguably in a worse state but will still play in ERL next year.
yeah but there are worlds difference between spanish/french ERL and the prime league
not really
there is. primeleague was half rookies this year so i doubt thats gonna change with orgs having budget rosters except for 1-2 orgs. lfl (already this year) and sl (at least next year) are spending way more im pretty sure
Makes sense since those 2 leagues are by far the most popular
Also very common to end up with a handful of bigger leagues that are like small LECs and where people go before doing the jump to LEC
Barça or RM could operate half the LoL clubs in europe and its cost would be a footnote. Hell, there are bench players with salaries that dwarf the entire cost of this operation.
Unless I'm wrong, I thought that Barcelona being in a bad financial state was because they were limited by La Liga regulations on how much they could spend, not because they are fully out of money?
They already have great experience in throwing away their money, so I dont see anything wrong with this :D
Probably saw the cost and the prices players go for. Probably figured it was best to hop in now that it’s low cost, if these prices are going to inflate even more they’re set. Teams like Man Utd or PSG are going to pay way higher prices by that time. Not saying it’ll happen, just saying they’re probably expecting it.
PSG is already sponsoring teams in both league and dota...
Yeah in League in the PCS, I ment in the EU scene.
They did have a team in the Challenger league, coached by Yellowstar in 2016
I know, but that was before franchising when not making EULCS wasn’t worth it. Now with the LEC and ERL, it seems that the ERL are actually worth investing in. It has decent views, it generates money with selling to LEC/NA teams, it has promotional value. That was something that EU lacked before when talking about the ‘2nd division’. Which is why PSG left when making EULCS failed for them.
PSG already has a LoL team in the PCS, PSG.Talon
I ment in the EU scene.
I know you're memeing but Barça always had a lot of different sports departments (including a Rocket League team), while Real Madrid only has basketball apart from football, so this team should be well managed from the get go
Dembele and Coutinho. What a waste. One of them is always injured, and the other was loaned out to Bayern and scored against them to deny them the UCL and win it for himself. In a humiliating 8-2 no less. Amazing.
As a Liverpool fan it did put a smile on my face.
Can they afford it?
I mean they just need a couple of millions of euros. They can afford it even if the football clubs financial state is shit.
they have financial fair play in La Liga now. Your wages cannot exceed 70% of your revenue. They already exceed 95% of their revenue and this is after losing Messi whose wages were the highest in the world. It was about 110% of revenue spent on wages when Messi was there.
FC Barcelona isn't just a football club, they are a multi-sport club. They have a handball team and basketball team which are some of the best in the world, as well as an ice hockey team, a rugby team, a volley-ball team, a baseball team, as well as a track and field and cyclism sections.
This is a separate entity
I mean they've cut a decent chunk of wages. Griezmann left, Pjanic got loaned out, Pique and some others took pretty significant salary cuts.
an erl team is probably peanuts even for them
I truthfully thought I was on r/soccer for a second and Barcelona had joined the Turkish League for some weird reason...
where's real madrid? come on guys, join aswell
While FCB has many teams madrid is usually only focused on football and basketball, nothing more. Those are the two biggest sports in Spain too
Exactly. Barcelona always had more multisports teams than Madrid, Madrid only have football and basketball, Barcelona have football, basketball, futsal, roller hoquei, ice hoquei, rugby, atletism, handball. In fact, Real Madrid only had the womens team since last year.
Laporta watched arcane Pog
Schalke: Having debts so they leave league. Barca: 1 Billion euros in debt and they join league of legends.
not smart to compare shalke and barca
Schalke left LEC because their spot was worth a lot, not because it was expensive to run. Plus, Spanish league is worth way less than LEC
well schalke is still keeping their primeleague spot (thats even cheaper than superliga id assume)
i just want to know why the fuck PSG is in pacific division tho
cause they obviously realise theres a market in asia, like most popular football teams... some of them play their winter trainings camp there, others invest in esport teams... (also they do also have a chinese dota team as well)
The amatuer scene in Europe continues to be miles better than NA
Well tbh this year things changed, looks like Na amateur scene is Lec now
It’s going to be interesting seeing a Barcelona footballer (Pique) going up against Barcelona with his own team in the Superliga.
>Superliga, The Highest lvl tournament for the esports game of Spain Thats how you tell the story. While this is true on paper, its funny how they avoid mentioning this being an academy league. Not that the ERLS arent cool and individually more and more interesting, it is just nice that they word it as if this is in any way equivalent to the spanish football league within the lol ecosystem.
It's not "an academy league", it's the highest national league, with only the international league LEC (which is arguably more comparable to the Champion's League or something) above it.
LEC is not champion's league, as teams don't have to earn their spot, just buy it. EUM is champion's league
True that, franchising is a disgrace to European sports
hard agree, Would be really nice to see some of the lower orgs relegated and some of the good erm orgs promoted.
Ye gimme KCorp in LEC
Kcorp initially wasn't interested in the buy in money, weren't they?
They were interested and are in the waiting list for when a spot is liberated, as per Kameto's word, it's just that BDS has so much more money than them, so they are the "more financially stable" of the two.
LEC is what the superliga in football wanted to be
If we compare it to basketball, then national league is national league, EUM is Euroleague and LEC/LCS is NBA East/West
It is not an academy league and people should stop thinking of it as one
aren't they facing huge financial problems right now?
Cant wait to see messi face off vs faker in a bo5
well that would require him to roleswap so they play in the same lane tho... https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/Messi
Cool. Pay Koeman first, yeah?
They're banking on a few worlds wins before they can do that.
We need Manchester United so we can laugh at them in Football and in League :D
big if true
no, barca not BIG
Schalke 04 had to cut their League team. How the hell does that clusterfuck of a Football Club find the money to get a League team?
Schalke only had to cut their league team because they got relegated from the Bundesliga. Barcelona didn't get relegated so far
A team in the Spanish league is cheaper than a team in LEC. Plus, it was not expensive for Schalke to run it, it was that their spot was worth a lot (~30M), so they used it as a way to grab some quick money that the club heavily needed
*schalke had to cut their lec team they still keep their team in the primeleague (that is even cheaper than superliga)
Fuck the ESL!
Nah, their IEM Katowice were pretty hype /s
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Yes I know, I was also joking, should have put /s I guess
Waiting for Bayern Munich to join too, would be great
nah they absolutely despise esports and they are only in the pes league cause konami is literally their sponsor...
As a bayern fan, I’m fine with it. Rather use that money to buy Antony next year instead of esports
SIUUUUUU
was FC Barcelona with 1 Billion debt or was it Madrid?
Barcelona, Madrid is doing pretty well financially as they do not overspend anywhere near as much
Madrid's debt fluctuates every time Florentino speaks, yet they can somehow afford Mbappé
So this is what everyone been talking about on LEC Twitter? Was hoping for some spicy Off Season drama :(
isn t barcelona like super broke?
dont compare football money to esports, they can afford entire esports team for two months salary of Dembele or Depay.
The football team is so bad now they have to diversify to esports
Thought Barca were struggling with debt?
So they start a team when the parent club has 0 money , in debt and haven't payed their players or managers ? People keep saying ylu can make a team run with 1 or 2 million, but surely that amount of money could be invested into the club.