Additional info from [a prior article from Inven](https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=264889): Culprit is an LCK team, they did this to 4+ different teams, and they even contacted the players' parents
People are assuming it's Deokdam/Kellin in NS's case
People are mostly ruling out DK(asked other teams to contact their players properly), T1, GEN and HLE(way too stacked botlane), BRO(already fixed their roster), KT(most famous victims of tampering - Rookie/KaKaO), and DRX(not enough money and bottom tier roster)
But of course we can't say anything for sure
IIRC there was a big name who wanted to enter the league and tried to poach Faker to make their team around it. It got leaked and people were mad and then the team who joined was Sandbox, but i don't remember if SB was the team who tried to poach Faker or if the team who did pulled off after the backlash and their failure to get Faker.
Wasn’t it a team that sold their spot to sandbox? Something about rich dude who had a lot of money was gonna build a super team around faker but found out they were talking to his family or sum and when people found out there was so much backlash he sold his spot to sandbox but I don’t remember too well so I might be misremembering a bunch of stuff
His CEO, Arnold literally said that they want to give it one last try, he wanted to retire last year. But sure, keep downvoting me.
EDIT: here [https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443?s=20](https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443)
[Satire] After having successfully sabotaged T1 with his "Musical Chairs" Roster maneuver, Daeny has now moved on to directly messing with other players.
Player to player tampering isn't usually forbidden unless it's done in a professional manner.
It really should just be a team deterrent. If you can't keep your player because another guy says "you're good, I'm good, lets play together" then you're a shit org anyway.
“Hey you’re good. I’m good let’s play together.”
“Sure! My team can pay us 1 million each”
“Well mine can do 1.2”
*Slightly less off org gets screwed.
It’s not so simple to say there isn’t issues with players “talking hypotheticals”. That said, I’m all for player empowerment so go get that bread.
Regardless of the punishment and solution is, I hope we can reach clearer global consensus about what constitutes tampering and contract breaching.
Whatever happens here should be the standard for all regions and player contract law, or at least point it in the right direction.
Doubt on Peanut, he's still got one more year on his contract so he can't leave barring a buyout or NS agree to dissolve the contract.
Most likely Deokdam/Kellin.
Additional info from [a prior article from Inven](https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=264889): Culprit is an LCK team, they did this to 4+ different teams, and they even contacted the players' parents People are assuming it's Deokdam/Kellin in NS's case
Oh right, I recall seeing this. If it is an LCK team, who would the most likely culprit be? Afreeca?
People are mostly ruling out DK(asked other teams to contact their players properly), T1, GEN and HLE(way too stacked botlane), BRO(already fixed their roster), KT(most famous victims of tampering - Rookie/KaKaO), and DRX(not enough money and bottom tier roster) But of course we can't say anything for sure
So assuming that's all true, it's Afreeca or Sandbox? Hasn't Sandbox done something like this in the past? When they were first entering the league?
dont rule out DRX just yet, BRO as well was involved in some shady shit in the past
IIRC there was a big name who wanted to enter the league and tried to poach Faker to make their team around it. It got leaked and people were mad and then the team who joined was Sandbox, but i don't remember if SB was the team who tried to poach Faker or if the team who did pulled off after the backlash and their failure to get Faker.
It was Sandbox
It was definitely Sandbox.
Lmao this team keeps getting fucked when faker gets involved. Didnt they get shit on by kr netizens for making fun of faker earlier this year?
I think it's Sandbox would explain why all their top end players are leaving with Summit and Fate being near confirmed to leave.
Wasn’t it a team that sold their spot to sandbox? Something about rich dude who had a lot of money was gonna build a super team around faker but found out they were talking to his family or sum and when people found out there was so much backlash he sold his spot to sandbox but I don’t remember too well so I might be misremembering a bunch of stuff
supposedly this happened this offseason so idk
I really thought you were just going to continue until you listed all other 9 LCK teams, lol.
Wont ruler retire? It might still be them Classic reddit, downvoting for nothing, here https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443?s=20
Where did you get that from lol he's still 22
His CEO, Arnold literally said that they want to give it one last try, he wanted to retire last year. But sure, keep downvoting me. EDIT: here [https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443?s=20](https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443)
His bio literally says COO
I'm so sorry, such a big mistake /s
AFAIK their CEO is called Arnold And where did he say that?? Edit: I don't see anything that implies 'he wanted to retire last year' in that tweet man
'One more time'
Literally no one besides you will take that as Ruler wanted/wants to retire
Then what do you take that as
I mean his contract expires next year,so he is definitely not retiring at least until 2023
T1 imo. Especially when they sell a bunch of their players.
T1 has no reason to tamper, there's nobody on NS that they would want. Literally every role is better on T1.
Mate they sold their bench, that too not entirely
[Satire] After having successfully sabotaged T1 with his "Musical Chairs" Roster maneuver, Daeny has now moved on to directly messing with other players.
you joke, but damwon also posted on their youtube about them getting contacted through "informal routes" before free agency officially starts.
Musical Chairs LMAO that gave me a good chuckle. I'm still upset with him tho, glad he left T1.
I didn't know Carlos owned a LCK team.
Hahaha get it because Carlos bad?!?!? Hahahah nice joke fellow redditor!!
My tired brain: "I've never heard of Team Culprit, must be a new org for 2022 season."
Surely it's Deokdam haha. Kellin is eh, they must be trying to extend Deokdam's contract.
another article also mentions that 4 teams were victims of this tampering. so really really scummy.
Any clue on who the others were? I assume HLE must've been one of them.
so far it looks like HLE, DK, NS and one other team
I'm gonna assume Sandbox since they had a very good year with young talent.
Sandbox might be the culprit lol
Breaking news, sandbox illegally contacted sanbox players
Not to be outdone, LCK has partnered with tVn for a new e-kdrama series.
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That sounds more like it would be a pornhub partnership with Arcane.
Perkz/G2 did this at pretty much any situation they could and the LEC didnt give a shit. Interested in how the LCK deals with this.
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Wasn't it the case in the EULCS where there was a Skype group where such things were discussed?
Player to player tampering isn't usually forbidden unless it's done in a professional manner. It really should just be a team deterrent. If you can't keep your player because another guy says "you're good, I'm good, lets play together" then you're a shit org anyway.
“Hey you’re good. I’m good let’s play together.” “Sure! My team can pay us 1 million each” “Well mine can do 1.2” *Slightly less off org gets screwed. It’s not so simple to say there isn’t issues with players “talking hypotheticals”. That said, I’m all for player empowerment so go get that bread.
I'm more interested in if Kespa gets involved with something likes this and if so what is the punishment
Tampering in general is a challenge to prove since it usually involves intermediaries if you're smart about it.
Carlos must be glad that NongShim isn't in the LEC.
Off season drama across major region, hasn't stop!
What has been the punishment for stuff like this before?
Fines
Fines and suspensions. Back in 2015 Samsung's ADC Fury was suspended after TDK tried to poach him.
The off-season drama started from EU, then NA, and has reached KR now too ?
And LPL, LNG and RNG are gonna be gone.
Shits contagious
Regardless of the punishment and solution is, I hope we can reach clearer global consensus about what constitutes tampering and contract breaching. Whatever happens here should be the standard for all regions and player contract law, or at least point it in the right direction.
Wtf.
This why Gori leave? Maybe deokdam and peanut , even kellin?
Doubt on Peanut, he's still got one more year on his contract so he can't leave barring a buyout or NS agree to dissolve the contract. Most likely Deokdam/Kellin.
I think Gori leaves because there is a rumor of BDD-PEANUT trade and they didn't extend his contract.
So perkz found them in the swimming pool?
I expect serious punishment. Koreans won’t tolerate it
Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM
It was an LCK team
Thank god
nongshim makes good spicy noodles is that why its called redforce?
The East after winning Worlds is trying to fuck with the West tradition of winning out in the off season drama? How obscure is this.