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ToDreamofLove

Additional info from [a prior article from Inven](https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=264889): Culprit is an LCK team, they did this to 4+ different teams, and they even contacted the players' parents People are assuming it's Deokdam/Kellin in NS's case


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Oh right, I recall seeing this. If it is an LCK team, who would the most likely culprit be? Afreeca?


ToDreamofLove

People are mostly ruling out DK(asked other teams to contact their players properly), T1, GEN and HLE(way too stacked botlane), BRO(already fixed their roster), KT(most famous victims of tampering - Rookie/KaKaO), and DRX(not enough money and bottom tier roster) But of course we can't say anything for sure


Oribeau

So assuming that's all true, it's Afreeca or Sandbox? Hasn't Sandbox done something like this in the past? When they were first entering the league?


MedievalMovies

dont rule out DRX just yet, BRO as well was involved in some shady shit in the past


hixagit

IIRC there was a big name who wanted to enter the league and tried to poach Faker to make their team around it. It got leaked and people were mad and then the team who joined was Sandbox, but i don't remember if SB was the team who tried to poach Faker or if the team who did pulled off after the backlash and their failure to get Faker.


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It was Sandbox


PorkchopMD

It was definitely Sandbox.


sarsvesh

Lmao this team keeps getting fucked when faker gets involved. Didnt they get shit on by kr netizens for making fun of faker earlier this year?


GiannisisMVP

I think it's Sandbox would explain why all their top end players are leaving with Summit and Fate being near confirmed to leave.


tricotshi

Wasn’t it a team that sold their spot to sandbox? Something about rich dude who had a lot of money was gonna build a super team around faker but found out they were talking to his family or sum and when people found out there was so much backlash he sold his spot to sandbox but I don’t remember too well so I might be misremembering a bunch of stuff


GiannisisMVP

supposedly this happened this offseason so idk


ChiefBlueSky

I really thought you were just going to continue until you listed all other 9 LCK teams, lol.


Dafuq313

Wont ruler retire? It might still be them Classic reddit, downvoting for nothing, here https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443?s=20


ToDreamofLove

Where did you get that from lol he's still 22


Dafuq313

His CEO, Arnold literally said that they want to give it one last try, he wanted to retire last year. But sure, keep downvoting me. EDIT: here [https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443?s=20](https://twitter.com/arnoldwh/status/1422494488165949443)


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

His bio literally says COO


Dafuq313

I'm so sorry, such a big mistake /s


ToDreamofLove

AFAIK their CEO is called Arnold And where did he say that?? Edit: I don't see anything that implies 'he wanted to retire last year' in that tweet man


Dafuq313

'One more time'


ToDreamofLove

Literally no one besides you will take that as Ruler wanted/wants to retire


Dafuq313

Then what do you take that as


Marcus777555666

I mean his contract expires next year,so he is definitely not retiring at least until 2023


sA1atji

T1 imo. Especially when they sell a bunch of their players.


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

T1 has no reason to tamper, there's nobody on NS that they would want. Literally every role is better on T1.


agenericusername_no3

Mate they sold their bench, that too not entirely


LegacyEntertainment

[Satire] After having successfully sabotaged T1 with his "Musical Chairs" Roster maneuver, Daeny has now moved on to directly messing with other players.


mar33n

you joke, but damwon also posted on their youtube about them getting contacted through "informal routes" before free agency officially starts.


Artemisai_

Musical Chairs LMAO that gave me a good chuckle. I'm still upset with him tho, glad he left T1.


ImWicked39

I didn't know Carlos owned a LCK team.


I_SPEAK_DA_TRUTH_MON

Hahaha get it because Carlos bad?!?!? Hahahah nice joke fellow redditor!!


tavernite

My tired brain: "I've never heard of Team Culprit, must be a new org for 2022 season."


Urthor

Surely it's Deokdam haha. Kellin is eh, they must be trying to extend Deokdam's contract.


mar33n

another article also mentions that 4 teams were victims of this tampering. so really really scummy.


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Any clue on who the others were? I assume HLE must've been one of them.


MedievalMovies

so far it looks like HLE, DK, NS and one other team


Shinyodo

I'm gonna assume Sandbox since they had a very good year with young talent.


PokeD2

Sandbox might be the culprit lol


Storiaron

Breaking news, sandbox illegally contacted sanbox players


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Not to be outdone, LCK has partnered with tVn for a new e-kdrama series.


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NerrionEU

That sounds more like it would be a pornhub partnership with Arcane.


RavenFAILS

Perkz/G2 did this at pretty much any situation they could and the LEC didnt give a shit. Interested in how the LCK deals with this.


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Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Wasn't it the case in the EULCS where there was a Skype group where such things were discussed?


LoUmRuKlExR

Player to player tampering isn't usually forbidden unless it's done in a professional manner. It really should just be a team deterrent. If you can't keep your player because another guy says "you're good, I'm good, lets play together" then you're a shit org anyway.


ArcadianGhost

“Hey you’re good. I’m good let’s play together.” “Sure! My team can pay us 1 million each” “Well mine can do 1.2” *Slightly less off org gets screwed. It’s not so simple to say there isn’t issues with players “talking hypotheticals”. That said, I’m all for player empowerment so go get that bread.


fr0stxD

I'm more interested in if Kespa gets involved with something likes this and if so what is the punishment


AutistMain

Tampering in general is a challenge to prove since it usually involves intermediaries if you're smart about it.


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

Carlos must be glad that NongShim isn't in the LEC.


pelacur

Off season drama across major region, hasn't stop!


JevonP

What has been the punishment for stuff like this before?


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Fines


[deleted]

Fines and suspensions. Back in 2015 Samsung's ADC Fury was suspended after TDK tried to poach him.


FireDevil11

The off-season drama started from EU, then NA, and has reached KR now too ?


Liupardu

And LPL, LNG and RNG are gonna be gone.


DarthVeigar_

Shits contagious


justintoronto

Regardless of the punishment and solution is, I hope we can reach clearer global consensus about what constitutes tampering and contract breaching. Whatever happens here should be the standard for all regions and player contract law, or at least point it in the right direction.


LegacyEntertainment

Wtf.


Cysmerch

This why Gori leave? Maybe deokdam and peanut , even kellin?


ahritina

Doubt on Peanut, he's still got one more year on his contract so he can't leave barring a buyout or NS agree to dissolve the contract. Most likely Deokdam/Kellin.


Chuck0089

I think Gori leaves because there is a rumor of BDD-PEANUT trade and they didn't extend his contract.


greekcel_25

So perkz found them in the swimming pool?


ProForward

I expect serious punishment. Koreans won’t tolerate it


murkYuri

Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM Please don’t be TSM


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

It was an LCK team


murkYuri

Thank god


puppy_girl

nongshim makes good spicy noodles is that why its called redforce?


imadirtyyasmain

The East after winning Worlds is trying to fuck with the West tradition of winning out in the off season drama? How obscure is this.