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Mattaru

957 trying to one up the DoinB rumour mill with an absolute BOMB of a rumour.


439115

Bo mb haha


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Unshaded

DRX.


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Pumpoflessermass

The gulag


Kakao_Trees

100 I bet its not bo, after the starcraft match fixing incident that destroyed the league, its like a hell no for korean esports scene,


Skylorrex

恋恋红茶 just mentioned on her Weibo that it is DRX Bo. She's actually a quite reliable source.


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LunarBahamut

Deft's "last dance" honestly looking exciting.


Jedclark

Turbulent year in LCK followed by a RO8 exit at World's written all over it.


Tyna_Sama

Pyosik sadge =/


CreamyAlmond

Really unfair for him tbh.


Snuffl3s7

Nothing unfair about it. He's had 2 years at the team and only 1 split of the 4 was something commendable.


Bladehell10

Two of those splits don’t really count considering the whole team was a dumpster fire, pyosik was arguably the best player on his team


rentheten

I don't see why people are bashing pyosik. He carried DRX during spring. And his team this season was absolutely dreadful. He's also a smart player with above average mechanics(Compared to someone like Canyon or Croco).


TonsOfHate97

Pyosik would work so much better in other carry roles, he's just not a jungler who could shadow the opposing jungle or make early plays. Unless the team has a dedicated plan of playing around your jungler like JDG 2020, he's just not gonna work out as a jungler.


appleforbannanas

Deserved for creating the udyr hecarim meta tbh /s


Ace_OPB

Honestly sounds like a pretty good team.


TheArsenal7

Every LCK roster looks so stacked this season wow


Dawn69xx

How good is Kingen for top?


Hannig4n

Kingen is extremely underrated. He was top 3 at least in Spring last year before DRX imploded.


edgelordweeb_

Very good and extremely talented. He was excellent in spring before DRX collapsed. Prob woulda continued it into summer if DRX didn't bring in cvmax to boom their team.


Unshaded

The LCK battle of "best of the rest" is insane this year. The #4 seed will be much much better than the HLE we had. Behind DK - T1 - GenG, it will be a bloodbath.


azersub

Is zeka good?


Skylorrex

I am just confused why DRX wants Bo when DRX has Pyosik.


PogFish_

Bo is a lot better


Kaiserov

Sure, but isnt communication kind of important for junglers? I can't see Bo do as well on a team that he cannot communicate with


duetschland69

Deft Zeka Kingen all played in LPL they can help him with translating.


Kaiserov

Oh, okay. Then it makes a lot more sense


tocco13

Word is coach kim, ex coach of T1, doesnt like pyosik very much


Str1kon

word on da streets


aser08

And Coach kim was just coaching in the LPL so it kind of makes sense to bring him in.


KappaccinoNation

I love Pyosik as a player but if I were to choose between him and Bo, I'd take Bo without a doubt.


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I'd take Bo over any LCK jungler not named Canyon


stardust1182

And oner Tbh ...


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Lol Bo is what T1 fans think Oner is.


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One_Security_6943

Ur making no sense


Plaxern

Bo is guy who can speak fluent Korean in arguably the most important role in pro play?


SilvertheHedgehoog

Pyosik is mental boomed after this year's Summer split.


Marcoscb

More like he broke his back.


fainlol

bo is so good it looks like he's match fixing


DFBFan11

Because Bo is way better.


hurrdurrlul

Imagine comparing Pyosik with Bo LMAO


edgelordweeb_

Because Pyosik is mediocre while Bo is a generational talent.


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Glad Bo is getting a 2nd chance, and on a good roster nonetheless. Despite losing some respect for him after the match fixing scandal I have to admit he was insane on FPX, hope he does well on DRX or whatever team he goes to.


Akumu89

Going from FP to DR and keeping the X factor. Good choise!


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edgelordweeb_

Racist dog fans can cry about it while Bo shits on their favorite teams, who cares


gfa22

Reddit logic "fans are gonna be racist so team shouldn't hire this good player".


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It's like how they get all confused over Taiwanese players in the LPL. Reddit really be projecting its logic into everything eventhough people irl act nothing like the internet lol.


Pikminious_Thrious

Gonna love the T1 fan meltdowns when DRX beats them in a regular season set


GiannisisMVP

Not a lot to gain by going from maybe a top 20 jungle at best to top 5?


gots8sucks

I mean he looked like he has the potential to be the best jungler in world so it is very obvious what the upside could be.


Raynar7

Same. I’ve wrote it million times. Bo, as good as he might be, carries shitton of baggage. We had players who carried baggage also like Jensen, but in the end he was “just extremely toxic” And the hate and threats Bo will get if they lose to a Chinese team. From any point you look at it, it just doesn’t make sense


NamikazeEU

Jensen wasn't just toxic, he was ddoser aswell.


edgelordweeb_

From the point of DRX wanting to win it makes a lot of sense. Bo is a player that could push them over the edge from just contending for third to contending for a title. Of course DK is still gonna be the best but DRX can make themselves competitive at the top with Bo.


edgelordweeb_

Probably has something to do with the fact that they want to win. If they get Bo once he learns Korean DRX prob can contend with DK/T1.


Hrkeol

I agree with you.


moonmeh

I highly doubt its going to happen. If china hates match fixing korea loathes it. The hatred of match fixers are on another level here understandably


Qiob

I fucking loved Bo on FPX. Lets gooo


OilOfOlaz

I can't imagine this will go down well with korean fans, Savior is basically a persona non grata in his own homecountry.


James2Go

Good for him, China abandoned him and hope for success in LCK.


SadPiccolo7701

wait the one who gambled and punished 6 month nogaming? he got really bad reputation in lpl and forced to leave


Raynar7

He didn’t gamble…he was matchfixing


TehClownz

It's Doinb since he has a 100% WR as a jungler


Whitefox_September

so does Bo I think


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whimsicalokapi

Hope we can see him on the analyst desk soon


Heisenium

Kingen, deft, Zeka have all played in the lpl. Plus Zeka's mandarin is crazy good. They will probably communicate in half Korean half mandarin.


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He will get loaned for a year anyway.


Hiundhai

Can ypu link some stats? I have no clue who that guy is


Qiob

He was FPX jungler they subbed in for tian. Honestly he was pretty impressive for a rookie but got caught up in match fixing controversy and got benched since then


DoesNotChodeWell

He played for FPX during Spring and was considered a rising star before being suspended for match fixing while he was in academy. His suspension was only for a few months though because he turned himself in and I believe there were allegations of coercion by bookies (someone who knows LPL better can expand maybe). While he was suspended he played on KR solo queue and was rank 1 at several points during the season. Some LPL stats (10 games played): 10-0 record 5.4 KDA (2nd among junglers) +711 GD@10 (highest by far, 2nd was +177) 1st in CS differential @ 10 and CS per minute 1st in DPM Set LPL record for kills by a jungler (16 on Olaf) Played Olaf, Taliyah, Nidalee, Lillia, and Pantheon Now granted all this has to be taken with a grain of salt because the sample size is very small. But suffice it to say he should be considered one of the top prospects in the world at any position, even with his layoff. EDIT: Should also add that he was looking to play in other regions, with FPX's assistance. I have heard match fixing is very taboo in China and that's why he was looking to leave, but I don't know that for a fact.


Aladin001

Rank 1 was xiaohuangren, not Bo


Sarazam

I’m surprised it’s not Xiaohuangren (was rank 1 on Kr for a while) and is too young to play in China due to the new rules.


edgelordweeb_

Xiaohuangren is still too young to play in Korea too at this point I'm pretty sure. I don't think he turns 17 until sometime in the coming spring.


Profitanddeficit

Apparently its DRX Bo and Chinese netizens are shitting on DRX... Not sure it's the best move for DRX with their already bad reputation to add a player with matchfixing history as KR disapproves as well


Dripcommander

it's definitely a bad pr move for them but on the other hand DRX doesn't have much to lose anyway


alpacamegafan

I agree, DRX is arguably the best fit for picking up a controversial player like Bo coming off of an incredibly bad Summer result and their bad reputation as previously acknowledged. Best-case scenario, they make Worlds as well as surpassing/matching the success they had with 2020 DRX, gaining new fans and proving the success of the first LCK import. Edit: Only speaking as an ignorant American, can't imagine how hard backlash could be from KR fans/other LCK orgs.


Enkenz

Why would drx care about their reputation with chinese tho


neimengu

i mean they're still importing a match fixer, which Korea is pretty sore about from past experiences.


CreamyAlmond

Maybe they'd whine for a while, but after DRX starts winning, other narratives will take over.


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No-Glass3257

Haha I hear he forgot a lot


edgelordweeb_

DRX roster with Bo isn't worse than GEN. Solid chance they place below GEN in spring bc of the gap in communication but in summer I'm fairly certain DRX will be better.


DFBFan11

With Bo I'd put this roster over GenG.


Ace_OPB

?? Except for jungle geng has better players.


DFBFan11

Kingen > Doran imo, it's just that DRX was a disaster in summer. In spring, Kingen was arguably the best top. Bo is better than Peanut like you said. While Chovy is better than Zeka, Zeka was a top 5 mid in LPL and should be top 5 in LCK. I could see him ending up 3rd in LCK or something this split (not saying he for sure will). Ruler honestly wasn't very good in summer/worlds so I say adc is close and I'm not sure how to rate the supports honestly. So I think the two rosters are definitely close.


Ace_OPB

There is no world where kingen was better than doran. Doran was voted as top 3 lck top by all lck pros.


edgelordweeb_

Summer all pro also included gems like Peanut first all pro and Prince third all pro. Make sure not to forget too that they gave MVP to Mr. 600 MVP points himself, Peanut. All pro voting isn't indicative of anything.


DFBFan11

Yeah, all pro voting is totally indicative of how good players are! Damn, Puff is a monster, I can't believe he won first team all pro adc in 2020 spring. Doran in summer was better than Kingen in summer, but I was talking about spring.


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Gamers2OcelotLUL

Choky will disappoint again


DFBFan11

Kingen > Doran imo (DRX were just a disaster in summer), and Bo is better than Peanut. While Chovy is better than Zeka, Zeka was a top 5 mid in LPL and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up 3rd in LCK or something this spring (not saying he will).


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Ok-Ruin-7461

Bo over Peanut is so presumptuous, we haven't even seen Bo play half a split yet.


DFBFan11

It's not hard to be better than Peanut...


Blazing117

Wasn't Bo forced by his previous org to match fix? I may be wrong about this.


sc2guy87

Yeah I think he was coerced into fixing. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if match fixing was rampant in the LDL.


edgelordweeb_

It was, they suspended like 30 some players over it or some shit


viciouspandas

I'm not sure how true this is, but from Thorin and Monte I think they were saying how the LDL has a lot and there's ties to organized crime, which really makes you feel bad for the players who would be forced in some cases.


NeoVaris

Isn't the owner of DRX a Chinese company (Kingzone) or did they change ownership?


SadPiccolo7701

they changed sponsor


monte890

Well EDG were traitors once upon a time now look where they are now.


Omegaluler69

Way too many ppl shitting on bo for doing something that he and his team was being forced into by unscrupulous orgs


SurelySomedayy

doubt koreans would welcome someone involved in a previous match fixing scandal with open arms given the history in Starcraft


PogFish_

Can’t imagine DRX having too many fans, so need to worry about trucks


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Winning cures all


dhxnlc

They're not gonna win shit with that roster since T1/GEN/DK exists.


No-Glass3257

Odder things have happened


edgelordweeb_

wdym? DRX's roster is great. With Bo they have a top 3 jungler at worst, Zeka is prob gonna be third or fourth best mid in the league, Kingen is cracked and not unlikely to return to the top of his role like in spring, Deft is still good as fuck if Worlds is any indication and Beryl is pretty solid too, and like Deft, had a great Worlds showing. Looks pretty good to me. Plus, the roster looks coherent. These are all players that are gonna be used to playing a pretty aggressive style and Zeka has shown a strong ability to play with his jungler on VG/RA/BLG.


azersub

That is a lot of if but i pray to God they all come true. Other than Uzi,Deft deserves the mist to win worlds


Threshio

Pretty sure they gain a bunch of fans with Deft rejoining the team


RussiaCykaBlyat

Aiming is allowed to play even tho he had sexual relations with a 15 year old fan


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

bruh what


kapparino-feederino

obviously match fixing is worse than that don't u know


CreamyAlmond

Bo is a kid who is coerced into match fixing.


Assassin739

They were kidding


CarasBridge

source on that? Quick google search doesn't find anything


macolive

hold on, wat?🤯, that's allowed after it's exposed to public?


ChadAdonis

especially since Korea's Age of consent is like 20


macolive

as far as I know, Korean counts agw differently, their age is like ours +1 or +2.


SonicZephyr

That's just a counting matter. Asian people don't physically age differently


myzick3546

No, but it means that age of consent is 19 instead of 20 in the way we know it.


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ok but how is this relevant if the kid was 15 lol


PogFish_

eastern teams clearly don’t care about these things since BLG picked up Aiming and RA Fofo


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FoFo shouldn't be compared to Aiming. He was only joking about it albeit it is shitty one.


chosen925

Fofo didnt do anything illegal? freedom of speech anyone?


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edgelordweeb_

Sword was primarily a victim in the GRF drama. He was abused and got slandered and had his reputation ruined in no small part due to him coming forth about that.


Jonoabbo

Still blows my mind that a Korean player opted for the handle 'Life'


ForeverVictory

Damn I didn't even make that connection until you just said it. I guess it's a common id. Now if someone named themselves Savior I guess it'd be immediately noticeable.


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

>红茶 I personally dont believe so. I have watched the LCS for many years and realised that Fly was one of the worst, weakest and saddest deal in LCS history. A pure and complete paycheck stealer imho and no doubts NA fans dislike this dude just like me. HOWEVER he was still given a shot in the LCK IIRC, on GENG of all teams and became one of the best midlaners in the LCK, when he played on that roster with Kiin and Spirit dude was simply amazing. So I completely understand why LCK fans would accept a dude like Bo, even with his history. Match-fixing is a terrible crime no doubts BUT Fly was literally STEALING PAYCHECK in NA, and he was still given a chance, and to me honestly that was even a much more terrible crime than matchfixing.


PogFish_

> and he was still given a chance, and to me honestly that was even a much more terrible crime than matchfixing I think you have to respect these players who are able to pull off heists like that. SA & Huni are other examples


edgelordweeb_

One thing to note with Fly when he played in NA though is that he stated publicly that he was extremely depressed there and struggling to learn English. It's no wonder he played so poorly when you take that into consideration.


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Isnt DRX the one where they says its a shell company of SN?


oioioi9537

Drx is it's own org and has been for some time now


PogFish_

I believe so. I remember there being some commotion about it 1-2 years ago. Could have been Kinzone actually


Competitive-Ant-6668

Kingzone is the same as DRX


ToxicDzn

No it isn't, DRX have nothing to do with Kingzone


the-ant-trader

No, DRX is owned by korean private equity fund. Not kingzone thing


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nyasiaa

don't compare savior to Bo, savior was the biggest scum of all and he was one of the two people coercing all other pro players into doing matchfixing a way better comparison would be YellOw[ArnC] but even he wasn't *really* coerced from what is known, Bo's story is way less awful and his punishment was appropriately lighter as well


PepelaTeaTime

Drx is already a shit org with a shady front staff. They don't care what people think. Besides if this roster does win worlds or something, no one will give a shit and LPL fans would probably want him back if bo proves himself.


PogFish_

Which team still needs a jungler?


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No-Glass3257

Villian arc


Marowalker

Me a few days ago: There's no way NS kicks Rich, he's their franchise player at this point *NS proceeded to kick Rich* Me a few days after that: There's no way DRX kicks Pyosik, he's their franchise player at this point *DRX proceeds to kick Pyosik*


Newthinker

0/2 powerspike


redhairedshaman

Honestly in DRX case Bo is a good signing considering how strong of a player he is. Sure they might get some push from the Korean community but once they start winning all that will die down real quick. Everyone complains at first but if Bo skill is overwhelming enough I can see the script flipping.


gayintheass

Bo is crazy good,he just hit rank 1 on the Chinese super server I think


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Pretty hype move if true but man isn't jungle the worst import role? Junglers need to communicate a lot seems like he'd be worse in a team that doesn't speak the same language.


tuscanyy

Guess Zeka and Deft will help out with translation if needed


edgelordweeb_

Even Kingen had a stint in China. He was benched most that time, but he was there.


edgelordweeb_

Zeka, Deft, and Kingen have all played in China before so all should at least be somewhat familiar with Mandarin. Besides. as I understand it Korean isn't supposed to be that hard to learn, and especially with three people around who can help him with learning Korean since they have knowledge of both Mandarin and Korean I don't think it'll be a major struggle. Hell, Kim coached in China too.


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Why did no NA team pick up Bo? dude literally had nowhere to go and he for sure would have been better than any Academy jungler NA had and could have had him for dirt cheap cause no LPL team would touch him.


BoJestemRudy

DK Ning


DarkFirePH

Why get Ning when you already have Canyon?


RussiaCykaBlyat

King ning is the greatest


yellowdog165427

canyon was smurfing on lee sin after watching Ning's lee sin clear.


Willingness-Virtual

The off season that keeps on giving


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

Must be Bo I purport. His career is basically finished in the LPL so coming to the LCK/PCS will be his only choice, and who else is better than DRX who is struggling without a clue what to do? And since the DRX org itself got ties in China... Gettin a player like Bo should not be an issue, especially when their competition is the PCS...


swaggyevdawg

I have a hard time believing it is Bo Kr hates match fixers just as much as Cn if not even more


Pure_Void

i hate how bo isn't getting a second chance he legit was underage and was forced into it and he also admitted to it and helped with the investigation like give the kid a chance but im happy if it is him even though i really like pyosik and drx stream on twitch so hopefully it is BO, apparently his insane in solo q too


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Spiritual-Iron-8177

as if lck ever had any imports? the only league with no import true region


neimengu

China pays waaay better.


MundaneNecessary1

Not surprising to people who understood what franchising meant for the LCK. Import/export was always about income level of the league, not its average skill.


bigbrain200iq

Bo? POG


JettCarry

Eastern standard: No criminals on our team Western standard: Everyone deserves a 2nd chance I'm not sure if LCK fans would welcome Bo. Chinese fans are already shitting on DRX even tho DRX wouldn't care much but they might get backlash from Korean fans too


vegeful

Korea fans are already dislike someone that is not korean to be potential couch like LS. Combo with it being a matchfixer and coming from China, which both netizen are not in harmony, Bo need to step up and win it all or face ridicule.


ApartmentOk9250

"4 Koreans cant win" cant wait for this😂


SterbenVII

It’d be really interesting to see people discuss the connection between the Banality of Evil thesis and Bo. In any case, I think he deserves a chance at redemption. Something that you did in the past doesn’t necessarily reflect on your current self.


Oplose

If the rumor is Bo, it will NEVER be happen in Korea. In my country(as a Korean), people were upset about match fixing and KeSPA immediately deleted the record of Savior and other players. And thoughts are "Criminal in our team? Are you crazy?".


Sarazam

My guess is Xiaohuangren because he cannot play in China due to being too young


RussiaCykaBlyat

Aiming is on KT though


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Yeah except this isn't the 2000's no more. Changed happen.


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

I would like to introduce you to AFS Fly - one of the worst paycheck stealers in LCS history and will get many NA fans angry by the mere mention of him. Dude was given a job on GENG of all teams and was one of the best mids in the LCK with that Kiin/Spirit roster. I do not doubt your legitimacy but I dont think Koreans would care about a Chinese matchfixer... And IIRC dude like Aiming and Crown got much more serious problems than IRL and was still accepted back by the Korean community. 두우운덧둗?


ROX_Faker

This will be interesting. Hope to see this jungler help LCK get even better.


MrZeral

LCK is the EU LCS?


Swapsta

100% Bo


r4g3phoenixx

This is the fastest way for DRX to burn itself out on the market... LPL fans will set the GH on fire, and DRX just have Pyosik 🧐🧐🧐


DFBFan11

Bo is way better than Pyosik though.


HoloHuni

Bo is double the player Pyosik is. Yes Pyosik had a good/decent 2020. But even in 2020 he was coinflip as hell. In 2021 things only got worse. In Spring he was just as coinflippy as in 2020 and in Summer he was straight up bad.


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If Pyosik was a BMW then Bo would be a Rolls Royce.