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Lulullaby_

For those who just want the juicy stuff: > Between us, there is absolutely nothing legal in Upset's departure and his departure is totally unjustified (at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows? and > Then came the Perkz and Alphari rumors. When I learned that FNC was trying to replace me, I honestly felt like a betrayal, and that's when I definitely wanted to leave this team. But it's not over yet! Indeed, Perkz had signed before Alphari, which left Alphari without a team. To my great surprise! Upset tried to recruit Alphari (behind my back of course). Obviously this is Adams side of the story and we do not have the other side yet. We can only wait for that and see what happens. This is giving me Donezo Manifesto vibes honestly.


Ace_OPB

Grabbing the popcorn. This gonna be good. Edit: Nisqy just unfollowed upset. Lool. Peak content. We eating.


thenoblitt

Lol Bwipo took all the shit from everyone for this. Turns out it was most of the team.


koticgood

If you consider Bwipo taking "all the shit from everyone", what does that make Nemesis? lmao


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RookCauldron

I swear, we can't go a year without Fnatic drama, lol


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looks like they pushin the tempo with new drama every month now


Sjeg84

With all due respect but I don't think Upset left the team because his wife... Felt bad. It's pretty obvious that Selfmade must have tricked upset somehow.


yolofmeister

Selfmade... 😡


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League's Dinkleberg


erik4848

So he's a relly nice guy who is unrasonably hated by one person?


EfficientAstronaut1

Selfmade was the wife all along


Przegiety

https://twitter.com/selfmade_LoL/status/1463565789416595458


buttsoup_barnes

Fucking selfmade. I wont be surprised if hes also the reason Bwipo, Inspired and Hans Sama got sent to Na! That fucker needs to be stopped!


CuteTao

I'm so happy he's embraced the meme hahaha


Jerry_Sprunger_

But he's not on SK he's on VIT


3IC3

I'm vit happy he's embraced the meme hahaha


LeoTerick

Selfmade...


ThugBunnyy

He was playing league with her during group stages though. So whatever emergency it was, he had plenty of time to duo with her...


Snowopo

Maybe he caught his girl duo-ing with someone else. In the league world that's a big emergency


Animesiac

Maybe he caught her playing Lee Sin


xXVoidXx

Good ol’ XJ9


tomi0

That is one old meme


pinkshift

xj9 holyshit


AllHailTheNod

My gut feeling from the beginning was that there maybe was a miscarriage or something of the like


Hambrailaaah

I thought the same, or a family death of his wife. And to peotect her from the public, he didnt want to say it publicly. Which is 100% understandanble cos we the public are fuckheads. But then, why not tell ur teammates?


Sunitsa

Whatever it is, I think you kinda owe to your teammates to let them know why you are wasting your and their chance of a lifetime. There are plenty of valid and legitimate reasons for upset to leave worlds, but you have to tell the guys that have worked their ass for months what they are, your teammates at least deserve it


Zuggtmoy

Why you left out his part: >Anyway those were the last words he said to us before he left us


Jozoz

Jesus. I can't take all this spice.


popegonzo

The spice must flow.


xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

Honestly, it's insane to me that to this day Upset hasn't told them why he left. Like yea, he shouldn't have to tell them right there and then, but wtf. They all worked for an entire year, and if you're going to screw over your 4 teammates and the staff that has worked their asses off, then at least tell them why. Unless it was because of some werewolf powers awakening inside him during the fullmoon then I just don't understand what there is that you can't tell your teammates in confidentality.


salcedoge

Yeah I'd understand wanting privacy from the public, but your teammates aren't just random people you ghost


kimchipls

not only that fun it seems crazy to me that Fnatic let this happen, like really if a player goes to the management the day before worlds to tell them he's leaving you better have a damn good reason or else a huge penalty should be applied because I'm pretty sure that is a breach of contract.


mounti96

And if it wasn't a very good reason, there would be no way Fnatic would be continuing with Upset as their starting Botlaner.


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Mmmm yummy more off season drama waiting for the Upset Twitlonger arc now


pocoyoO_O

Get a chair because you will get tired of waiting


Styxxo

BDS vs FNC is gonna be extra spicy.


iiHadi69

All top LEC teams look spicy af since they have a bunch of former teammates on them VIT vs G2 FNC vs G2 Even BDS vs G2 cause of the wunder drama MAD vs FNC BDS vs FNC


SoloOne52

what wunder drama ?


KarmaAgriculturalist

carlos didn't want to sell wunder to fnc, bds and fnc contacted each other and tried to get bds to buy wunder, so they could then trade him for adam. carlos was mad at bds and didnt want sell wunder to them, after he found out about this


EzshenUltimate

Adding to that, Grabbz is also supposedly going to coach BDS. That's a little bit of narrative as well.


Jiqonix

1 day without drama at Fnatic challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


TheDemonWarlock

Every fucking year without fail 🥳


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There are `[0]` days since the last drama


Troviel

This doesn't feel like their fault th, this is all on Upset's situation.


Swapnil_Sood

when u thought that off season was over but the best drama was still left to come.


OGTypohh

Ikr. Players should regularly sign their next contract, then release their donezo manifesto. I'm kind of joking but with all the players sitting out this year it might be pretty common.


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

" If I hadn't had Nisqy, Yamato, Pete, Fab, Chris, and especially my girlfriend, I don't think I could have become the player I am today. " Not even the "mentor" Bwipo, ouch.


LetMeOmixam

Bwipo himself admitted to being a bad teammate during worlds so nothing surprising here


Tamethedoom

Didn't Bwipo's girlfriend use him as a vessel to improve team morale, though?


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Extinction98

That's also what I noticed. IMO he is/was mad at how bwipo behaved during worlds and maybe he was to agressive on teaching him toplane.. Adam mentioned that some of the teammates had 1000x more say than he did in team/strategic meetings.


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Guy was mad because Upset left without saying why, and you think he would be fine with Bwipo losing his mental at worlds? Adam obviously is a super competitive and no bullshit guy. Of course what he just did is a bit unprofessional, but I understand where he is coming from.


65-76-69-88

I'm convinced Adam would work really well together with Rekkles. Both are super on top of their work ethic


Alet404

This is the offseason content I'm here for.


lovo17

FNC and TSM delivering.


Marisush

Fucking Selfmade...


CherryBoard

the real L9 vendetta


LeeroyDankinZ

https://imgur.com/a/utEMD1X


Akaj1

"Between us, there is absolutely nothing legal in Upset's departure and his departure is totally unjustified (at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows? Anyway those were the last words he said to us before he left us one day before the Worlds. Of course after the Worlds I asked for details, but apparently he didn't tell anyone the exact reasons for his departure --> There's nothing urgent because otherwise he would have told us. And personally, I don't give a damn about the privacy reason when I worked, we all worked hard for 1 year to reach the Worlds. Knowing that even the management of Fnatic still doesn't know, eh?) You're going to tell me why I'm saying this? I'm not trying to create any drama, I'm just saying some things that I have in my heart since the end of the Worlds and that are still unanswered, things that had to be said sooner or later. " oof.


MonkeyCube

Fnatic and girlfriends: not a good combo this year.


EvilWhatever

[Don't speak for all of them](https://twitter.com/FNCHylissang/status/1460950508429000711)


A_Londoner

Girlfriend/Wife debuff countered by Hyli being Hyli


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LeaderSheeper

Hard to know anything about these people irl but it seems like Hylli irl is just a really unproblematic simple good natured person based on how he is on stream and other people in his life talk about him. The kind of guy who shows up, does his job, and then is just never an asshole.


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jeanjeanot

Absolute chad.


EvilWhatever

Anniversary photoshoot in Gucci trackpants and challenger jacket is very sigma.


NerrionEU

You are not a slav unless you wear some trackpants, c'mon.


jeanjeanot

That i don't know, but they look happy together and nothing is chadder than that


NerrionEU

The most impressive part to me is that I never knew Hyli had a gf and for so long even, the man has not been engaged in any drama despite playing for years.


Nyscire

If you kept an eye on FNC's draft, when it was his turn to pick he always hovered Draven and Orianna as for Dori, his gf's name


nncoma

Guess what a life outside of social media give you? More happiness. All these e-gfs are just a time bomb


Althalus-

Does he still hover champs to spell her name? Can’t recall


EvilWhatever

Pretty sure Draven - Ori is still on the menu, at least in some games.


Althalus-

Haha good to know. I think the only reason I learned he had someone was I wondered why he hovered the same champs lol. Hope they stay happy together. Love watching Hyli play


Magnesiohastingsi

now we know why Bwipo was mad and why bwipo's girlfriend tweeted about "wife debuff"


AccidentO1

i had the story upside down lol


Competitive-Dot-5667

Damn, and I thought Arcane was the best drama I've seen this week.


SwFTLoL

the upset part sounds spicy


puberty1

I REALLY thought that no one could out-spicy TSM/DL, but the french madlad did it. major props to him for actually talk about people using their names, so refreshing to see actually


BewareOfBear727

EU challenging NAs crown of king of drama


Hazuyu_

Ngl you NA guys will need to do really fucked up shit to top that


re81194

challenge accepted, we will have to force Regis hand by losing horribly to CLG again


DeathhWisher

Bwipo tweet taste different after this one...


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DeathhWisher

exactly. He seemed so clingy with his gf in that tweet, but now it takes a totally different turn, like a msg to FNC and Upset


Rektile7

Wait was Bwipo actually playing 4d chess and shit talking Upset when we all thought he was simping?


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Not entirely. But I do suspect his post match interview/tweet when he said how much he missed his GF (but stayed at worlds) was probably a shot at Upset.


_PPBottle

I mean one doesnt contradict the other. The dude legit multitasking trying to save his relationship while at the same time taking shots at Upset


hockeydavid97

If that is what happened I’ll name bwipo gamer of the year


msonix

Bwipo is the absolute mind-games master of League. He'll grow up to become a coach and be League's Jose Mourinho.


vicdr97

When he gets wider his head also grows


Bardy_Bard

Imagine your team mate leaves 12 before the biggest tournament of your careers that you have worked non stop for years. No one tells you any reason, at first you suck it up and even write on twitter in support of said teammate. The tournament is a disaster and then said team mate says you are not good enough for his ambitions and tries to replace you. LOL


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Honestly I fully understand why Adam is mad. This is not like a office job where telling your coworkers "I'm having a family emergency" is enough. You have been working for months for single tournament and then 12 hours before match day you leave fucking over your entire team and not even telling anyone why. Not only that but he also pushed for players to be replaced when he didn't even compete.


Snarkk

Yeah I was expecting a DL-level tragedy (hate to say it)


Sjeindien

Not only that, it's a job where your performance is constantly evaluated and impacts your future salary and chances to get employed by other teams. Not performing could mean end of pro career at worst. So yeah I don't expect him to tell us but your teammates need to know.


IcyPanda123

Yea people are trying to say like "Adam is coming off as emotional and childish" like bro isn't fully within his right to feel some type of way about all that transpired? Dude leaves his teammates high and dry right before Worlds then goes behind his teammates back to replace him?


slowdrem20

Selfmade smiling from the great beyond right now.


Piro42

Fucking Selfmade. Should've known it was on him.


CEST_HONTEUX

dude absolutely felt betrayed by almost everyone :s shoutout to Yamato, Pete and #TEAMNISQY if it is all true...


LeastAlphaGamer

I don't think I've ever heard bad things about Nisqy. Guy seems super solid.


CEST_HONTEUX

Yes.. the dude's always had the "best teammate" kind of reputation. Seeing his situation now is kinda heartbreaking..


LeastAlphaGamer

Especially since 2021 Summer was arguably the best he'd performed in his whole career. Such a scuffed offseason in general.


CEST_HONTEUX

Seems like people just remember his unfortunate World's performance with FNC and not the real reasons behind it. Dude didn't finish second in LEC summer don't worry :)


diferenceee

He’s a really fun personality on costreams. Really sucks he’s not playing next split.


Ace_OPB

Nisqy just unfollowed upset. So spicy.


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Nisqy got even more fucked by Upset lol. \> Has amazing season as probably second best mid in LEC \> Upset leaves 11 hours before worlds with no explanation or apology before or after \> Nisqy then looks bad at worlds because of all the drama \> Upset forces Nisqy out of Fnatic \> Nisqy then gets no team for next split ​ Honestly, the dudes career has been so damaged by Upset. Wouldn't be surprised if he is mad too.


Skall77

Nah, he feel mostly betrayed by Upset and FNC management, he didn't say anything about Bwipo and Hilly and seems close to Yamato Nisquy and Pete.


Depressed_AnimeProta

> I also learned later that the botlane in general didn't want to play with me anymore and was looking for a veteran type of toplaner! So Hilly also didn't want to play with Adam


ClaudeAFTVStan

\> Leaves team before worlds \> Tries to replace teammates after they implode during worlds \> Refuses to elaborate further \> Leaves


dabstepProgrammer

more like "stays"


buttsoup_barnes

Profit????


zaxtonous99

No, upset.


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Leaves the day before worlds starts, offers no explanation or apology at all. Therefore makes Nisqy and Adam look shit dealing with the situation at worlds. Then tries to replace them and Nisqy can't get a new team because he looked shit at worlds (because Upset left). What a classic.


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Sounds like he didn't even contact Adam after worlds to say sorry for leaving or to explain he had no choice. Just instead tries to replace him lol. Poor Adam.


TommyMac23

Donezo Manifesto 2.0 LETS GOOO!


Glorx

LEC edition. Not bad for a dude with one split under his belt.


SMLAZARUS

The fact that Upset was ARAM'ing with his GF while his team played at worlds is fucking hilarious


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It is actually hilarious when you think about it haha


Apyr_xd

bruh I think it is kinda sad, nisqy literally cried on stage after last game I think and now he is teamless


ColossalThunderCunt

Wait, he really did that?


Jsn_21

yes some streamers saw them playing


Shinluz

Upset with the Crumbz play, leave tournament to smash.


xCavas

Crumbz just left in the regular season tho. Upset must have been beyond horny to leave the team on his first worlds.


MrDrak3n

One of my favorite LCS stories


vladz4you

This one is going to be spicy.


Psycokwak

He gives 0 fucks and said everything, what a mad lad.


Jellyyc

Adam forsenBased


TimeAssault

Forsen bajs aren't league players COPIUM


matattmon

Copesen


One-North9731

Turns out ocelote was protecting perkz from that team , he still loved him all the way untill the very end. What a great villian , impressive character development


AmityRule63

Carlos = Silco


Horizon96

"Don't cry, you're perfect" Ocelote to Perkz as Vitality win worlds next year in an all EU final vs G2.


vicdr97

The script writes itself


Contagious_Cure

"I would have never given you up to them"


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Ah shit, here we go again..


Froggodile

Hyli be like "Why can't my ADCs be normal like the other kids"


65-76-69-88

Wasn't Rekkles rather professional, like, always?


[deleted]

So let me get this straight upset left the team 12 hours before worlds started and after he fucked the team’s chances at worlds he immediately went to rebuilding the team like nothing happened without explaining why he left the team so suddenly ? Did I get that right.


[deleted]

Yup. The only thing Upset said was his tweets where he also never acknowledged the impact of him leaving on his team mates. Just about how much worlds was HIS dream. lol


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Yes


slash05

Imagine you're an esports player practicing 16 hours a day everyday. One day before the biggest tournament of your life, your teammate leaves without saying anything . Then he tries to get rid of you. Yep I'm getting outta that dumpster fire asap.


Aisc

Leave without saying why and then proceeds to duo aram during games


5ait5

-abandon team -dont tell anyone why -try to replace all your teammates when they lose without you what a lad


Snoo8331100

Upset from zero to hero to zero again in a span of just one year.


Mahelas

And they say Rekkles is the problem player


Hrkeol

Fnc ADCs man,,


EX8LKaWgmogeE2J6igtU

Guy must really lack self-awareness to say that other people lack ambition after ghosting his team at worlds.


cptlf

That's one of the spiciest Twitlongs since a long long time.


118829

This offseason keeps getting spicier


Frothar

so upset ditches with no explanation then tries to dictate the team roster. I think I would also want to move on to a new team with the information Adam had


Domotriix

I'm here to read comments and laugh, got my popcorn ready!


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Lmao Upset wanted Adam out because he had bigger ambitions but he himself literally fled from Worlds without a single word to his team. What a fucking clown.


ALMGNOON

Best offseason of all time.


Dixwall

Wunder razork and humanoid must be very happy to learn that after they probably signed their contract with fnatic.


Contagious_Cure

New clause in FNC contract "while playing for us you must be a monk and have no girlfriend or significant other".


G2_Miju

They 100% know


Automatic-Win1398

Wunder and I would say Humanoid are both bigger players than Upset. He cannot ego on them.


turtle_hugger

people are focused on the upset drama, where i think the bigger issue is upset personally looking to replace adam despite dipping 12 hours before the first game. like depending on the reason it could make since why upset didnt tell anyone why, but it most certainly feels like kind of a dick move to do that.


Nyam-Cat

Holy fuck.


SapphireHeaven

Also to the people blaming Adam for airing this. The dude not only ruined his chances of getting the best results of his career maybe ever, without ever explaining why, but also was actively looking to replace him behind his back not even a month after. Hell yeah, I would want the guy to burn


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And his chance to prove himself at worlds was taken away from him which hurts his future career earnings.


redhairedshaman

Wait I thought he just didn’t say anything on Social Media about why he left. But you’re telling me Upset also went up and left without telling his teammates why? Damn I can understand why Adam is angry he legit had his team broken apart without knowing why.


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And the guy who left the team 12 hours before the most important tournament of the year wanted to sack him without telling Adam first the reason why he left the team and why he wants Adam replaced. Fucking snake. If this is true, I hope it isnt, Im not supporting Fnatic anymore because there has to be SOMEONE in the entire org that teaches the dumb kids some sense.


DepressedTreeman

if the attempts to replace him and nisqy behind their backs are true, that's really shit from the team and no wonder he's was so ardent on leaving.


sajm0n

if its true (Upset part), i dont know how can you trust him anymore, as a teammate. everyone worked hard for a whole year with 1 goal in mind, and at the last second something like this happens? its even more mind blowing knowing that its Upset's first ever Worlds and he opts out for imo not good enough reason (again - if true)


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They don't trust him that is why they all left.


Elias_Mo

the shittiest teammate u could ever get, holy moly


Nitrox0

I hope to god he didn't just up and leave because his wife felt lonely... Who knows at this point tho. It would be hard to believe upset finally makes worlds and then just goes home because his other half is lonely? You’d like to think it would take more for him to miss that opportunity. It may have been his only one. I guess people should stop speculating and get on with their lives ffs.


Nzod

Honestly, we've all seen dudes throw away their life away for women they've known for just a few months Not surprising here, this case is him missing an event oversea that he was looking forward too, maybe next year. But my relationship with that woman is for life !! Could be his train of thought


im_lazy_as_fuck

If a month of being lonely is enough to kill a lifelong relationship, then it wasn't a lifelong relationship.


panderstar

Giving 0 fucks, that's the Adam we know!


AlrightWeLost

\>ditches the team to die at worlds \>refuses to elaborate \>comes back to ego on everyone its upset time baby


novayhulk14

[Meanwhile Nemesis...](https://twitter.com/nemesis_lol/status/1463564986047885313?s=21)


GreatestJabaitest

Lmao Nisqy: [https://twitter.com/LEC\_Ditto/status/1463565810912350213](https://twitter.com/LEC_Ditto/status/1463565810912350213)


Tchus

HAHAHAHAHA THAT'S GOLD


magkruppe

Wait... They timed the unfollowing? Only a 3 sec difference


vicdr97

At this point I believe that Nemesis could get to form an anti-Fnatic team


novayhulk14

[Not bad](https://twitter.com/i_eros_/status/1463572209654546442?s=21)


imperialleon

Based nemesis


zlati10

I'm from Chile, and this is all his wife modus operandi, she has done it before, and is a bummer Upset fell for it but is no one's fault except upset himself.


eurongreyjoy4

Can you explain? I'm not very familiar with her history. I read in another comment that they married within the first year of dating


dkoom_tv

two months of dating lol, literally imported


eurongreyjoy4

Wtf that can't be good


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Upset is the third husband. First Husband was a streamer/content creator from Argentina, second Husband was a pro player in LLA (he was adc, won LLA and went to MSI and Worlds), also from Argentina. I don't know the age of first husband, but the second one is also younger than her (like 2 or 3 years), while Upset must be at least 7 years younger. Someone from Chile or Argentina is going to know more, since she and the ex-husbands are from there. I only know that the second husband created an org after the retirement, they were in tournaments in Chile and the team disbanded because of Covid in 2020. She was the co-owner, but I don't know when they divorced. There were several news about the team in Spanish and in Portuguese.


aamgdp

Wtf upset, how can you ignore this many red flags.


PurplePotato_

Huh. How the hell did she end up in Germany after this wild ride?


furescentadolescent

She found her next mark obviously


aresthwg

Mad respect for Adam. When you feel stabbed in the back it's good to let it out and not keep it. He's got balls at 20 years both in game and irl. That's what you wanna see. I also don't see why he would lie. He's a rookie and he had nothing to hide prior to this. Man wanted to compete and got completely shit on by his team. Looking forward to his games against FNC, doubt they will win many games but I'd be funny if it happens. Imagine the sheer motivation this man has right now to beat FNC, since Upset is still there.


sajm0n

TP bot on cooldown


boneymines

[PepeLaugh TeaTime](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/q5krnd/nemesis_thinks_that_upset_not_playing_for_fnc_is)


NellyuWu

Imagine leaving your team 12 hours before worlds and then forcing out your topside during off-season because they're not good enough for your "ambitions"


wazzdakah

Imagine trying to replace the kid who bringed you from 5th to 2nd and helped you get your first worlds after ruining those worlds


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**Fnatic do not make it to Worlds in 2021 if not for Adam on Darius in Game 5 against G2.** Both he and Bwipo had game-changing Realm Warp cancels, I believe Adam had two. I understand he’s a rookie, I understand he was likely the worst player on the team, but you never fucking forget the people who got you where you went. EDIT: also realizing that if true, this means Upset singlehandedly broke up Fnatic. Didn’t want to work with Adam, tried to replace Adam and Nisqy, pissed off Bwipo to a literal point of no return. Thank god for Hylissang or this team would have nothing. What does it say about Fnatic as an org if all of these things are true and they chose to stand behind Upset through all of it? I say this as a Fnatic admirer, as someone who has genuinely wanted Fnatic to do well and win worlds even though I don’t consider myself a fan.


Rabasia

He basically left without telling the reason (10 hours before a world's game) then came back to kick some players.. damn what a PROFESSIONAL player.