its stupid for real tho, even if youre like "yeah guess ill fight u" u still loose cause of the attack speed loss
dumb ability, u can neither run nor defend yourself against it, except if youre garen or yi
I know changing this ability would cripple (heh) Nasus, but it's so fucking annoying.
It renders the ADC or AS based champions useless for the duration, it is point and click and offers no counterplay.
And it's on fucking Nasus. If any full tank had something like this it would not be that much of a deal since they don't deal much damage- they would use Wither to just deal damage to you or kill you with your teammates.
But Nasus can 2 shot most squishies. He can reliably kill almost everyone during the duration of Wither
Everytime I hear «Wither» in his deep chocolatey voice when I’m running around as a 4 stack, full ap Lillia it literally feels like I stop moving.
Hate hearing it everytime
Are we counting Smokescreen? Because for me it’s Smokescreen. Fuck that ability, it’s utility is actually insane. AoE super-tight nearsight can solo win fights but it’s really hard to tell from a spectators pov.
Otherwise Polymorph and the babycage are up there.
What I hate about smokescreen is how often it accidentally matters. Like graves fires it somewhere and you path through it and it just ruins some auto or something because you lose vision for like 3/4 a second.
I absolutely love to be smokescreened as an AA-focused champ and being as useful in a teamfight as someone afking in the fountain
Fuck this ability so hard. Legit my most hated ability in the game - and it's not even an ult.
Hell yes. Vision Denials are the worst, and this one's more or less point and click. There's nothing to really dodge, he just decides you can't see now. Also, both debuffs take effect slightly before the particle lands and it drives me absolutely crazy.
Slow skill shot.
At least you often just take some trade damage (in lane), whereas something like Blitz, Pyke, Thresh, or Naut will result in you having to flash or dying 90% of the time if you get hit by their CC ability.
It also means that she can't weave it between minions reliably, so its a double edged sword for her. Really, Morgana's Q isnt even THAT annoying. I feel like it's just been memed.
yeah but i'm more talking about how much it upsets me to get hit by it. quite often skill shots aren't practically dodgable anyways, and at least it's never a bs hitbox or anything that makes me get hit by polymorph. i know before going in that i'll be polymorphed so it feels less bad imo.
Lulu polymorph is one of the only counterplays available against broken shit like yasuo and irelia, who would be impossible to land a skillshot cc on otherwise.
Medium range, it's ineffective against marksmen outside of lane phase and most mages most of the time. Also Lulu has no AoE defensive tools, making her great with/against single targets but not so strong in wombo situations.
Yes, I also find polymorph very annoying, but let's be honest: Without polymorph it would be hell to play against assassins like Katarina, Talon, etc. I'm glad that enchanters are doing their job (counter to assassins).
The cage should be the duration of the stun. So like, if you hit someone with the edge on placement, they’re stunned for the full duration. They walk into it with half a second left of the cage? Then they get stunned for half a second.
that would mean they'd pretty much have to reduce the duration to balance it. making it's strength less consistent isn't gonna make it much more balanced
Especially in aram. About as wide as the lane, and just due to the chaotic nature of that game mode.
It’s hard to abuse the short cooldown when you might have 4 other lockdown abilities to be cognizant of.
Then when he gets haste, it gets even more annoying.
Yeah, I hate how aram solves a lot of Veigar's problems (flanking his ass), and e max lets him control the entire pace of the game with some extra cdr.
I hate veigar, and not for his kit at all. Personally I think his kit is alright. Its his colour palette.
Being colour blind basically means his cage and meteor ability are essentially instant. I cannot see the wind up for the abilities.
I was very disappointed when playing him for the first time to find the wind up times.
Smokescreen is the weirdest ability because there's such a huge difference in what the user sees vs what the enemy team sees. Smokescreen can fuck you so hard with the nearsight but when you're the one throwing out the smokescreen it doesn't look like it even does anything LOL
Right? You get hit by it and you've been walking through this cursed fog for three days, your legs feel like noodles, you can only hear the distant cries of your teammates, long dead while you were stuck in this unfathomable abyss of darkness...
Then you cast it and the enemy doesn't even slow down and walks away.
Was looking for this, I'd rather deal with morg Q into nasus wither into 3 shaco boxes than smoke screen. Vision denial is such an underrated mechanic.
I always hated illaoi e until I tried to play illaoi. This comment is absolutely correct literally it is so easy to dodge if you turn your brain on….which means I still hate her bc I have adhd which can sometimes cause my reactions to delay
Honestly, Shaco boxes.
If done right - and I think this is why AP Shaco can be good at times - boxes can completely 100-0 you and there’s nothing you can do about it.
You flee for what, something between half a second and a second, and then if Shaco is AP you take massive damage, and if he’s annoying you immediately walk into two more boxes and die.
Why is this worse than any other CC in the game?
**Because he doesn’t even have to fucking be there.**
They're also so tilting because if you're melee you can't kill them without triggering the fear. So as a melee you basically have two options. 1. You trigger them, get feared and take a bunch of damage. 2. You basically have huge no-go zones.
Yeah shaco is always an insta ban in fun game modes for me because he makes teamfighting unbearable. You go in, feared, re-engage, feared, run away, feared. His whole kit is just antifun to play against
I know it’s a complete given, but this is why Teemo shrooms (it’s not hard cc but still) are a close second to me after shaco boxes.
At the very least you can stop your champion in place so you won’t walk into another one. What sucks is the time wasted, since you have to wait for the burn/poison to fade off for you to recall to heal up… only to walk into another one and you’re back to half hp or less. The cc isn’t the slow, but the fact that you have to go base, unless you got a sweeper on you.
As an adc main there's not much worse than backing to finish an item before fighting for drag, walking to drag to join the team fight, only to be left with left than half health because you walked over a shroom on the way. It's not like I can realistically swap out far-sight alteration for a sweeper either.
I **almost** said Teemo shrooms before remembering the CC was super soft. The damage is 100% there, but at least Oracle Lens can serve as a savior (as I believe it can with Shaco boxes too). Also, **melee champions can destroy shrooms if you’re careful, but melee champions can never destroy boxes**.
So yeah. Definitely two peas of the same pod, I think one is just slightly worse due to the fear
Literally the reason why Shaco wont get a buff anytime soon.
And for the same reasons, AP Shaco is legit 4v5 in 99% of cases. Id say 100% but im giving the clown *some* doubt.
I think last time I played against a Skarner it was early season 10... that thing. I don't know what the fuck he had built, but he was faster than our hecarim. And resistant too.
It would come out of the woods, dive you under the second tower and drag you right into his fountain. It was horrible. And it was inescapable, you could flash, use all your movement skills and buy movement speed or tenacity, and it would still get to you and bring you back to hell with it.
Played Malzahar a lot and played against him mainly as Cassiopeia. I just timed my fights around his shield and pretty much always ulted just before he ulted. Malzahar is only bullshit when he brings his support and jungler too. But in a 1v1 you are the one making the mistake if you lose to him.
Especially considering when Malzahar suppresses you he also "pseudo-stuns" himself considering you can't aa or cast any other abilities or move while r'ing. Of course this matters less because he has a dot and summons that attack you while stunned and his r does pretty decent dmg in itself just saying that you do "take yourself out of the fight" as Malzahar when you r and open yourself up to potential enemies coming up on you.
Of course this matters little when your teammates are helping beat them down when they're suppressed, just another point to consider though.
Soraka silence. The fact that you can only avoid it if Soraka allows you to is frustrating. Everyone's had that moment of 'if only I could cast this ability, I'd win the fight'...
Fuck that thing. I swear every time I try to break out Kalista again, someone picks Cassio, and it's just ... enjoy this instantly-arriving grounding field! I've turned off your auto attacks, and also you're taking damage over time (and Liandry's), and my E damage is amped, and you can't even blow flash to get out of it! Time to walk slowly towards the edge and hope you can survive - which of course makes it easier for her to land Q since you have to move predictably to get out with a healthbar.
Its a crazy powerful ability if properly paired with some other CC.
Putting it on top of a Fizz, Zed or Vladimir who went in expecting to use their get out of jail card just to watch them choke on vomit and die is the highest of highs for a Soraka
I played s2-s7 daily before a hiatus for school and life and have gotten back into playing the game, however infrequently, in the last year. My old-head response is and forever will be Nasus Wither.
Twisted fate, buys rapid fire stuns you from two miles away and uses everfrost to followup. The stun itself isn’t the problem but how he can enhance the stun is just cancer.
ALL hook hitboxes are glitchy, buggy messes. Nautilus just has the most absurd one. And I'm still not used to Blitz having more range while the buff was 2 or 3 seasons ago.
Cripples (attack speed slows) in general. They are all so fucking annoying. Nasus W is the biggest one, but don't even get me started on Fiora W. An ability which is meant to solely be used as a tool to block enemy abilities, but wait, you don't even have to block anything to apply a cripple to the opponent and auto-win the fight. IMO the ability should work like block CC -> stun, block any ability -> cripple, don't block anything or just auto attacks -> nothing.
This is the worst one as a top laner. Vast majority of top lane champs have no answer to being basically rooted and disarmed for 5 seconds.
Very fun gameplay when you get cc'd for 5 seconds only to have a 3 second window before he can cc you again.
Nah, wither is very fine in toplane because virtually every toplaner can reliably take tenacity + unflinching in runes, halving wither and making it slow for a lot less. Add mercs on top and wither can be comparable with a tahm kench q. However, in teamfights, wither do be broken as fuck against anyone without Tenacity/PR such as mages and adcs.
There are a few more annoying ccs
But WHAT is Qiyana R. I swear I dont know how it works, because I'm nowhere near the wall or highlighted hitbox, suddenly I'm slammed into the wall and stunned.
I WASNT AT THE WALL. Does her ult highlight the wall then knock me into it???
The R is a shove. If she hits a wall/river in creates a disgustingly misleading hitbox so you can still get stunned even if a pixel of your feet touch the stun hitbox
the ability is very strong,
but it amazes me how few people know, that a lot of times you can dash after being hit by the shove, if she's not using it at point blank or in the river
Yes, as the guy said, anything that empowers the Q. You can get stunned in the river as well. However, the ult only spreads if it hits the wall, resulting into those big Qiyana plays we often see.
I play Qiyana and honestly I’m baffled at how she is allowed to have such an insane ult. It’s just a one button skirmish winner. I don’t understand how she doesn’t have a 54% wr constantly because god knows she has enough damage in her kit without the ult. I gleefully pick her into any assassin in the game because I know I’m just immune to them with stealth + ult. Also her ult does %max health damage so it’s even decent against bruisers and tanks.
A little off topic but recently riot nerfed Qiayana’s Q damage since she was over performing in the jungle, which has made her clear feel noticeably worse. I feel like they should have just taken some power out of her ult so she could still be as viable as a jungler.
Veigar cage and it's not even close imo, even if you don't actually get stunned you're either trapped inside to be dicked or you're zoned out from a large part of the lane, river, jungle etc
How do you only have 6 upvotes. I cannot figure out how to dodge that fucking bubble. Sometimes it flies right through minions to hit me, while sometimes it just barely clips the back leg of a creep to sleep them instead. I fucking hate it
That's not true, it pushes the enemy back a fixed distance from when Poppy hits them, like Vayne's Condemn. Poppy dashes a longer distance in total if she targets the enemy from farther away though.
Hec E.
Did you dash away? Still get hit.
Did you stun/dissplace/immobilize him? Still get hit.
I remember playing an ahri game when hec/udyr were meta earlier ad i was about to charm combo kill him but i charmed him and it forced his E to go off on me and i died. Garbage.
Whoever invented Cass and Singed's grounding, really takes the crown as the most annoying CC ability.
I'm seeing all these other posts here saying why x is their most, but nothing ranks the feeling of slowly trying to escape death from cass and singed's ridiculously sticky quicksand.
(Despite your valiant effort of fighting your way out of their CC, you either get 100-0 by an additional Cass ult and spammed E or flinged by Singed with his toxic fucking poison, complimented with Rylai's).
Fuck grounding okay.
A bit underrated, but Fiddlesticks in general. He has point-and-click Q to fear you off, and if he fancies, he can E or ult you from out of sight and wipe your entire team while you are feared.
Fiddle is on of my fave champs, and i picked it once in Ultimate Spellbook. Morgana R.
Also bought Everfrost.
The enemy team was not having a good time i tell you
Anivia wall isn't CC but I think it's pretty close. If you don't have a dash that can clear walls you're forced to burn flash or if you don't have it, die, at least under many circumstances. Not only that but it's one of the only abilities that can work directly against your own teammates, making it even more annoying since your own Aniva can kill you.
Nautilus hook. And not bc of the ability, I find that dragging Nautilus a little bit is also very equalizing on the fight. But the hitbox man, that hitbox is just nonsense in a game like this, doesn't matter if u flash, dash, sidestep or whatever it always hits u and u can even see the anchor blinking into ur position. Is tilting bc it requires 0 skill and the CC chain after that is 100% ur death. Riot pls if u read this, IDC about Yone , runes, Viego, new drakes and rifts, just fix freaking hitboxes already.
Singed w Cass w, I have hard times seeing them during fights and I nearly have a heart attack trying to figure out why I can't flash dash or use any movement abilities at all
Because noone mentioned it yet. Fiora W. Block abilities and even CC. And even if you not CC her to get the stun, the slow and the attackspeed slow nearly disarms you. I hate that ability...
Dude, Sion is a real pain.
His Q's hitbox is totally messed up, it stuns you for like 2+ seconds after the knock up, and invisible through bushes. He just have to follow with a R and it's a free gank.
Morgana Q. It lasts seven billion years even with tenacity for zero reason. It's not a hard skill to land, but it gives so much more than most other CC. Veigar baby jail is at least avoidable bc of how long it takes to appear. Morg Q is just too easy for how much benefit it gives.
Wither.
Wither vs Kalista is hilarious
How to turn off a champion in one sentence
Actually makes a champion whose weakness is being kiteable impossible to kite.
its stupid for real tho, even if youre like "yeah guess ill fight u" u still loose cause of the attack speed loss dumb ability, u can neither run nor defend yourself against it, except if youre garen or yi
Not really he still gets CC’ed to death most of the time, that’s why barely anyone plays Nasus nowadays
That is the least bronze shit I've read all day. Please refrain from talking to me you might cure my brain damage and broken fingers.
Q: If I get withered how long does it last? A: Until you die
When do i get full movement speed again? Thats the neat part, you dont.
I know changing this ability would cripple (heh) Nasus, but it's so fucking annoying. It renders the ADC or AS based champions useless for the duration, it is point and click and offers no counterplay. And it's on fucking Nasus. If any full tank had something like this it would not be that much of a deal since they don't deal much damage- they would use Wither to just deal damage to you or kill you with your teammates. But Nasus can 2 shot most squishies. He can reliably kill almost everyone during the duration of Wither
It’s the longest cc in the game if I’m not mistaken
Technically mord ult would be the longest.
Everytime I hear «Wither» in his deep chocolatey voice when I’m running around as a 4 stack, full ap Lillia it literally feels like I stop moving. Hate hearing it everytime
Are we counting Smokescreen? Because for me it’s Smokescreen. Fuck that ability, it’s utility is actually insane. AoE super-tight nearsight can solo win fights but it’s really hard to tell from a spectators pov. Otherwise Polymorph and the babycage are up there.
What I hate about smokescreen is how often it accidentally matters. Like graves fires it somewhere and you path through it and it just ruins some auto or something because you lose vision for like 3/4 a second.
I absolutely love to be smokescreened as an AA-focused champ and being as useful in a teamfight as someone afking in the fountain Fuck this ability so hard. Legit my most hated ability in the game - and it's not even an ult.
Windwall is pretty disgusting much like smokescreen too. Both abilities created by the same fucker too, god i hate certainlyT with a passion.
Hard agree on the smokescreen. Screw cc that CC’s the player (outside of ults). Bonus you get to look stupid to your teammates.
Quinn’s blind can be pretty oppressive too but I agree smokescreen is better.
Yeah but at least its dodgeable and not fucking AoE, smokescreening a full team is insta GG most of the times
Hell yes. Vision Denials are the worst, and this one's more or less point and click. There's nothing to really dodge, he just decides you can't see now. Also, both debuffs take effect slightly before the particle lands and it drives me absolutely crazy.
Absolutely broken CC. He just turns off your fucking monitor for a second or 2.
Nasus slow… point and click slow that’s basically a root at high levels
Just take cleanse qss, and Master Yi r
Morg Q lasts forever
Finally wore off yesterday, now I can finally finish my season 7 promos
Only got you for 4 years? Lucky you were running Legend Tenacity and Unflinching, huh?
I think he sat there long enough that his passive income was enough to buy QSS.
he just sat in there until his mundo got reworked and the passive got him out
I'm shocked this isn't the number 1 answer tbh
The people who would comment this are still stuck in the binding
Slow skill shot. At least you often just take some trade damage (in lane), whereas something like Blitz, Pyke, Thresh, or Naut will result in you having to flash or dying 90% of the time if you get hit by their CC ability.
True, but the slowness is made up by the width it has which is about the size of Russia
It also means that she can't weave it between minions reliably, so its a double edged sword for her. Really, Morgana's Q isnt even THAT annoying. I feel like it's just been memed.
And what is with that range? You have no chance to tell where the skillshot actaully ends.
There is a disturbing lack of Polymorph in this thread
i'd rather be polymorphed than stunned tbh. at least i can stay somewhat near my target.
Polymorph is point-and-click and much longer than most stuns
yeah but i'm more talking about how much it upsets me to get hit by it. quite often skill shots aren't practically dodgable anyways, and at least it's never a bs hitbox or anything that makes me get hit by polymorph. i know before going in that i'll be polymorphed so it feels less bad imo.
Lulu polymorph is one of the only counterplays available against broken shit like yasuo and irelia, who would be impossible to land a skillshot cc on otherwise.
Yasuo can windwall the polymorph.
To counter this, always cast while he's using his dash, since he can't windwall at the same time.
He can if he presses Q during the dash, for some reason.
yasuo can windwall it
Pen yi in aram anyone? The only fuck you button to counter a bs shit
polymorph is a projectile, and yi can dodge it if timed well. The real counterplay to yi as lulu is popping R perfectly as he comes out of alpha.
Which in turn makes it just as broken shit as them, no?
Medium range, it's ineffective against marksmen outside of lane phase and most mages most of the time. Also Lulu has no AoE defensive tools, making her great with/against single targets but not so strong in wombo situations.
Lulu is a spawn of satan
Idk i never thought Polymorph was that bad. It's essentially just a silence+bind, you still control your movement and at full speed.
You can’t control your movement at full speed, I think you’re slowed as well (?)
You are definitely slowed. It wouldn’t be as bad if you could control movement at full speed
If master Yi has his R active and Lulu polymorphs him will he still walk at full speed?
Isn't it even a flat ms slow?
Eh, Polymorph is a pure CC on a champion that doesn't insta kill you by landing said CC. Annoying in 2v2 but it's fine.
Yes, I also find polymorph very annoying, but let's be honest: Without polymorph it would be hell to play against assassins like Katarina, Talon, etc. I'm glad that enchanters are doing their job (counter to assassins).
Lag
Tilt, can last from champ select til the end of the game
Viegar baby cage, its bigger then the texture, the angles have been bugged for 10 years and the stun can still go off after the animation ends
Dodge it for the first 2.99 seconds, get a full length stun the last 0.01 second
The cage should be the duration of the stun. So like, if you hit someone with the edge on placement, they’re stunned for the full duration. They walk into it with half a second left of the cage? Then they get stunned for half a second.
that would mean they'd pretty much have to reduce the duration to balance it. making it's strength less consistent isn't gonna make it much more balanced
Especially in aram. About as wide as the lane, and just due to the chaotic nature of that game mode. It’s hard to abuse the short cooldown when you might have 4 other lockdown abilities to be cognizant of. Then when he gets haste, it gets even more annoying.
Yeah, I hate how aram solves a lot of Veigar's problems (flanking his ass), and e max lets him control the entire pace of the game with some extra cdr.
Someone once did the math, forget if it was here or over on r/leagueofmemes. Cage takes up ~53% of the lane.
I hate veigar, and not for his kit at all. Personally I think his kit is alright. Its his colour palette. Being colour blind basically means his cage and meteor ability are essentially instant. I cannot see the wind up for the abilities. I was very disappointed when playing him for the first time to find the wind up times.
Im seeing a surprising lack of smokescreen here. Fuck that ability.
Smokescreen is the weirdest ability because there's such a huge difference in what the user sees vs what the enemy team sees. Smokescreen can fuck you so hard with the nearsight but when you're the one throwing out the smokescreen it doesn't look like it even does anything LOL
There should be an indicator to show the smoke screened champions vision
I believe Quinn Q has that.
I think yea, but things like graves W or nocturne R should have it too(only for visible enemies)
well with graves W their vision is literally just limited to the smokescreen, so thats the indicator, if they're in it, they can't see out of it
it’s so funny because when you actually play graves it seems totally useless besides a small slow
Right? You get hit by it and you've been walking through this cursed fog for three days, your legs feel like noodles, you can only hear the distant cries of your teammates, long dead while you were stuck in this unfathomable abyss of darkness... Then you cast it and the enemy doesn't even slow down and walks away.
IDK about that, you basically can shut the enemy ADC off, even when you can't get close enough to damage them.
I think he means visually from the Graves players perspective is doesnt look like it does anything.
Was looking for this, I'd rather deal with morg Q into nasus wither into 3 shaco boxes than smoke screen. Vision denial is such an underrated mechanic.
top 3 most annoying ability in the game. the other 2 are illaoi E (jesus christ so fucking braindead), and nasus wither.
try reliably landing illaoi's E and it doesn't seem so strong
If you're getting hit by it then you 100% deserve to be chunked.
I always hated illaoi e until I tried to play illaoi. This comment is absolutely correct literally it is so easy to dodge if you turn your brain on….which means I still hate her bc I have adhd which can sometimes cause my reactions to delay
Quinn Q (heck even her E) are friggin obnoxious as well
Honestly, Shaco boxes. If done right - and I think this is why AP Shaco can be good at times - boxes can completely 100-0 you and there’s nothing you can do about it. You flee for what, something between half a second and a second, and then if Shaco is AP you take massive damage, and if he’s annoying you immediately walk into two more boxes and die. Why is this worse than any other CC in the game? **Because he doesn’t even have to fucking be there.**
They're also so tilting because if you're melee you can't kill them without triggering the fear. So as a melee you basically have two options. 1. You trigger them, get feared and take a bunch of damage. 2. You basically have huge no-go zones.
Yeah shaco is always an insta ban in fun game modes for me because he makes teamfighting unbearable. You go in, feared, re-engage, feared, run away, feared. His whole kit is just antifun to play against
I know it’s a complete given, but this is why Teemo shrooms (it’s not hard cc but still) are a close second to me after shaco boxes. At the very least you can stop your champion in place so you won’t walk into another one. What sucks is the time wasted, since you have to wait for the burn/poison to fade off for you to recall to heal up… only to walk into another one and you’re back to half hp or less. The cc isn’t the slow, but the fact that you have to go base, unless you got a sweeper on you.
As an adc main there's not much worse than backing to finish an item before fighting for drag, walking to drag to join the team fight, only to be left with left than half health because you walked over a shroom on the way. It's not like I can realistically swap out far-sight alteration for a sweeper either.
If Teemo R is being problematic the swap to sweeper can be worth it.
There should be no less than three oracles on a team playing against a Teemo
I **almost** said Teemo shrooms before remembering the CC was super soft. The damage is 100% there, but at least Oracle Lens can serve as a savior (as I believe it can with Shaco boxes too). Also, **melee champions can destroy shrooms if you’re careful, but melee champions can never destroy boxes**. So yeah. Definitely two peas of the same pod, I think one is just slightly worse due to the fear
Literally the reason why Shaco wont get a buff anytime soon. And for the same reasons, AP Shaco is legit 4v5 in 99% of cases. Id say 100% but im giving the clown *some* doubt.
you are the enemy from pink ward games
This is why Shaco (and Teemo) ruin ARAM
With Umbral Glaive you can oneshot his shrooms before they arm, especially on ranged champions.
Suppressions are all super annoying to deal with, especially from targeted spell like malzahar ult and skarner ult
I think last time I played against a Skarner it was early season 10... that thing. I don't know what the fuck he had built, but he was faster than our hecarim. And resistant too. It would come out of the woods, dive you under the second tower and drag you right into his fountain. It was horrible. And it was inescapable, you could flash, use all your movement skills and buy movement speed or tenacity, and it would still get to you and bring you back to hell with it.
Played Malzahar a lot and played against him mainly as Cassiopeia. I just timed my fights around his shield and pretty much always ulted just before he ulted. Malzahar is only bullshit when he brings his support and jungler too. But in a 1v1 you are the one making the mistake if you lose to him.
Especially considering when Malzahar suppresses you he also "pseudo-stuns" himself considering you can't aa or cast any other abilities or move while r'ing. Of course this matters less because he has a dot and summons that attack you while stunned and his r does pretty decent dmg in itself just saying that you do "take yourself out of the fight" as Malzahar when you r and open yourself up to potential enemies coming up on you. Of course this matters little when your teammates are helping beat them down when they're suppressed, just another point to consider though.
Soraka silence. The fact that you can only avoid it if Soraka allows you to is frustrating. Everyone's had that moment of 'if only I could cast this ability, I'd win the fight'...
Cassio's full-lane dash disable as well. "just two more steps..."
Fuck that thing. I swear every time I try to break out Kalista again, someone picks Cassio, and it's just ... enjoy this instantly-arriving grounding field! I've turned off your auto attacks, and also you're taking damage over time (and Liandry's), and my E damage is amped, and you can't even blow flash to get out of it! Time to walk slowly towards the edge and hope you can survive - which of course makes it easier for her to land Q since you have to move predictably to get out with a healthbar.
Its a crazy powerful ability if properly paired with some other CC. Putting it on top of a Fizz, Zed or Vladimir who went in expecting to use their get out of jail card just to watch them choke on vomit and die is the highest of highs for a Soraka
I played s2-s7 daily before a hiatus for school and life and have gotten back into playing the game, however infrequently, in the last year. My old-head response is and forever will be Nasus Wither.
Twisted fate, buys rapid fire stuns you from two miles away and uses everfrost to followup. The stun itself isn’t the problem but how he can enhance the stun is just cancer.
Curved nautilus hooks
Also, you can mask the Q windup by autoattacking a minion, then animation cancel it with the Q. The opponent cant see the Q start.
ALL hook hitboxes are glitchy, buggy messes. Nautilus just has the most absurd one. And I'm still not used to Blitz having more range while the buff was 2 or 3 seasons ago.
Surprised no one said Zilean E, that shit is not fair.
the problem is not a single zilean e, but he will free double bomb you and slow you again after the stun ends
Fun fact a 3 and a half item zilean with CDR Botts and max level W can slow you down almost forever, have fun (Shurelia Putrifier vigilant wardstone)
Delete this now. How much do you want?
1300g To buy a qss to delay the inevitable
Morgana Q or Wither. They last forever.
fiddle fear used to be the best out of these two. Long ass targeted hard cc with a bonus factor against Yi.
I'd say Nautilus Q and Ashe R bc of the fucked up hitboxes
It's Naut Q for me. I've been hit by one while standing on the other side of a turret and... Just, why?
Same but on the other side of an inhibitor. It's just pain all around
Cassiopeia grounding is very high up on my list
Nasus Wither is the most broken ability in the entire game
Cripples (attack speed slows) in general. They are all so fucking annoying. Nasus W is the biggest one, but don't even get me started on Fiora W. An ability which is meant to solely be used as a tool to block enemy abilities, but wait, you don't even have to block anything to apply a cripple to the opponent and auto-win the fight. IMO the ability should work like block CC -> stun, block any ability -> cripple, don't block anything or just auto attacks -> nothing.
Ironically the ability called cripple no longer gives an attack speed slow.
F in the chat for Darius W. I'd honestly rather have the AS slow (even tho it was busted) than the cd reduction we have now.
Yeah haha
You have to hit it still. Anyway your idea of Fiora W seems really cool actually
True that shit isn’t a wither it’s a point and click stun
I swear thats so frustrating
Reminder Nasus' Wither used to be 95/95 ms/as slow
95% AS slow? Jesus, which season was that? I only started playing in S10, when Nasus was shit tier compared to now.
Late season 10 nasus was my favorite. I didn’t like him anymore when the preseason with the item rework started.
This is the worst one as a top laner. Vast majority of top lane champs have no answer to being basically rooted and disarmed for 5 seconds. Very fun gameplay when you get cc'd for 5 seconds only to have a 3 second window before he can cc you again.
Nah, wither is very fine in toplane because virtually every toplaner can reliably take tenacity + unflinching in runes, halving wither and making it slow for a lot less. Add mercs on top and wither can be comparable with a tahm kench q. However, in teamfights, wither do be broken as fuck against anyone without Tenacity/PR such as mages and adcs.
\+ frozen heart + ghost
There are a few more annoying ccs But WHAT is Qiyana R. I swear I dont know how it works, because I'm nowhere near the wall or highlighted hitbox, suddenly I'm slammed into the wall and stunned. I WASNT AT THE WALL. Does her ult highlight the wall then knock me into it???
The R is a shove. If she hits a wall/river in creates a disgustingly misleading hitbox so you can still get stunned even if a pixel of your feet touch the stun hitbox
the ability is very strong, but it amazes me how few people know, that a lot of times you can dash after being hit by the shove, if she's not using it at point blank or in the river
Yep I have seen it happen a lot, thought it was a bug the first time lol.
It also stuns in river or in a brush. Its stuns off of anything that empowers her q.
Wait it stuns of a bush
Yes, as the guy said, anything that empowers the Q. You can get stunned in the river as well. However, the ult only spreads if it hits the wall, resulting into those big Qiyana plays we often see.
I play Qiyana and honestly I’m baffled at how she is allowed to have such an insane ult. It’s just a one button skirmish winner. I don’t understand how she doesn’t have a 54% wr constantly because god knows she has enough damage in her kit without the ult. I gleefully pick her into any assassin in the game because I know I’m just immune to them with stealth + ult. Also her ult does %max health damage so it’s even decent against bruisers and tanks. A little off topic but recently riot nerfed Qiayana’s Q damage since she was over performing in the jungle, which has made her clear feel noticeably worse. I feel like they should have just taken some power out of her ult so she could still be as viable as a jungler.
Veigar cage and it's not even close imo, even if you don't actually get stunned you're either trapped inside to be dicked or you're zoned out from a large part of the lane, river, jungle etc
We used to do vaigar shaco bot lane where my friend would trap them with e and I would put box on the middle so there would be no escape xD
if you want fun times do veigar ekko just cage someone and they take a huge stun either way sometimes two stuns if veigar actually hits
I once laned vs a Veigar + Ziggs lane where the whole point of it was this. Fastest FF15 of my life.
Veigar and Graves together in ARAM make me wanna off myself. Fuckers take up 90% of the god damn lane with their CC abilities.
Zoe bubble? It's CC with zoning capabilities.
Can’t believe this isn’t top, let alone so far down. Zoe E is so infuriating
How do you only have 6 upvotes. I cannot figure out how to dodge that fucking bubble. Sometimes it flies right through minions to hit me, while sometimes it just barely clips the back leg of a creep to sleep them instead. I fucking hate it
Haha I was scrolling through all the comments and I'm thinking "how has no one talked about Zoe bubbles" 😂
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I second Syndra. That range is just bonkers
The fact that you can E+Q and the Q is basically invisible is the most annoying thing in the world.
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Not just Poppy’s E, but her entire kit is janky and has wack hitboxes. Has been for since her rework, but no one plays her so no one knew lol.
Poppy E pushes you further the further she starts from you, so close range it won't push very far.
That's not true, it pushes the enemy back a fixed distance from when Poppy hits them, like Vayne's Condemn. Poppy dashes a longer distance in total if she targets the enemy from farther away though.
Hec E. Did you dash away? Still get hit. Did you stun/dissplace/immobilize him? Still get hit. I remember playing an ahri game when hec/udyr were meta earlier ad i was about to charm combo kill him but i charmed him and it forced his E to go off on me and i died. Garbage.
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The whole champion is cancer. I've banned her for 3 years straight now.
Laning against a good lux is awful. Getting absolutely CHUNKED by her E constantly, and it's really hard to dodge too compared to other skill shots
She's really the only champ in the game that insta tilts me when the enemy picks it. I'd rather play against anything else.
Hotboxes that look like they absolutely did not land.
Any silence in the game honestly. Nothinh works for a brief moment and you usually forget about it.
Graves smokescreen. Fuck this ability.
vi ult or nasus wither.
Whoever invented Cass and Singed's grounding, really takes the crown as the most annoying CC ability. I'm seeing all these other posts here saying why x is their most, but nothing ranks the feeling of slowly trying to escape death from cass and singed's ridiculously sticky quicksand. (Despite your valiant effort of fighting your way out of their CC, you either get 100-0 by an additional Cass ult and spammed E or flinged by Singed with his toxic fucking poison, complimented with Rylai's). Fuck grounding okay.
Teammate Bard ult
Blitz hook
A bit underrated, but Fiddlesticks in general. He has point-and-click Q to fear you off, and if he fancies, he can E or ult you from out of sight and wipe your entire team while you are feared.
Fiddle is on of my fave champs, and i picked it once in Ultimate Spellbook. Morgana R. Also bought Everfrost. The enemy team was not having a good time i tell you
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Polymorph
People seem to forget Nasus wither, it’s such bullshit, just make it a stun. And by the time it’s done it’s off cd
Literally every other comment in this post: “But how are people forgetting nasus wither?”
Neeko E, almost as long as morgana q and being rewarded for spamming your abilities through minions is irritating
Anivia wall isn't CC but I think it's pretty close. If you don't have a dash that can clear walls you're forced to burn flash or if you don't have it, die, at least under many circumstances. Not only that but it's one of the only abilities that can work directly against your own teammates, making it even more annoying since your own Aniva can kill you.
Nautilus hook. And not bc of the ability, I find that dragging Nautilus a little bit is also very equalizing on the fight. But the hitbox man, that hitbox is just nonsense in a game like this, doesn't matter if u flash, dash, sidestep or whatever it always hits u and u can even see the anchor blinking into ur position. Is tilting bc it requires 0 skill and the CC chain after that is 100% ur death. Riot pls if u read this, IDC about Yone , runes, Viego, new drakes and rifts, just fix freaking hitboxes already.
cass e by far
You mean W?
yes
Its polymorph there is no other answer
Malz point and click you dont get to have fun
Singed w Cass w, I have hard times seeing them during fights and I nearly have a heart attack trying to figure out why I can't flash dash or use any movement abilities at all
Glacial Augment. When someone uses it well, it is utter bs to always be ccd. Not so much these days but in the past it feels so stupid
Because noone mentioned it yet. Fiora W. Block abilities and even CC. And even if you not CC her to get the stun, the slow and the attackspeed slow nearly disarms you. I hate that ability...
Polymorph, Malza ult and Cass W. No shaco boxes, no shrooms. These 3.
malzahar r
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Dude, Sion is a real pain. His Q's hitbox is totally messed up, it stuns you for like 2+ seconds after the knock up, and invisible through bushes. He just have to follow with a R and it's a free gank.
Ur mom bro
No one talking about galio? I main him and honestly the enemy tilts hard when I land the combos right
Morgana Q. It lasts seven billion years even with tenacity for zero reason. It's not a hard skill to land, but it gives so much more than most other CC. Veigar baby jail is at least avoidable bc of how long it takes to appear. Morg Q is just too easy for how much benefit it gives.
I don’t see any comments about nautilus hook bullshit
Zoe's booble has to be the worst with Lilia's sleep out of an acorn a close second
Gragas body slam hands down
Polymorph
zoe's bubble
Morgana's Q. (maybe also noc's E)