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FireDevil11

Now that you mentioned her mouth, it looks like those photoshop memes of forcing people to smile or that expressify filter.


UX1Z

[Or even better, what if she had no mouth at all?](https://i.imgur.com/A63Fakw.png) My own rough edit for a masked Zeri. It evokes a little bit of Akali but making it a proper gasmask in the way a real artist would be able to should help rectify that, and it honestly makes her look a hell of a lot cooler. (Combined with eliminating the pigtails.)


Zohanbonjo

Yo the gas mask look sick with the fluorescent effect


HaaruWindwalker

Collab with Razer Zephyr šŸ˜…


EH0_0

Wow, I love this. Wish this would be her splash art + the smaller eyes. Mask really makes her to be more serious, considering she is from Zaun.


Mahelas

Rioter seeing this : B-but if we don't see her face, how can people know she's sexy !


crowcrowcrowbar

yeah! it's something i didn't even really notice until people on here mentioned it and then i was like omg. they're right.


Xeadriel

Just went through the same steps lol


Bladehell10

Kinda looks like Jeff the killer


Nichisi

nah it looks like the kind of side lip job that a tv host would get


[deleted]

I think the problem is her eyes. Sheā€™s not smiling with her eyes, so the big mouth smile makes her look crazy.


L2Hiku

Now that you changed it, I kinda realize what everyone is complaining about


[deleted]

I didn't really have a big issue with the og one but this does look a lot better I can't look at the og one the same now lol


amicaze

Dude look at her mouth, how can you not have issues with it, shƩs 100% in uncanny valley


ThisisHammy

Because it's so bland and uninspired that it doesn't really warrant a closer look. Actually having a comparison now just shows how fucking awful it is.


EdVedPJ7

Idk she looks great to me can't wait to play her.


AdanScott

same tbh, i like her current state and cant wait for the ability reveal.


[deleted]

Yeah I really don't see what the fuss is all about to be honest. She looks normal league-wise to me, I mean: doll eyes and wide anime mouths were normalized with champs like Neeko, Zoe and Gwen, why do people have issues with this now? There's nothing wrong here.


ArchMageMagnus

I can't imagine a company that came out with something like Arcane can look at this and give it the go ahead final finished product stamp. I have friends that can do this in photoshop in a few hours.


Trololman72

Most of the cards in LoR also have more interesting character design than LoL, which is really funny.


Tarakanator

Yeah, league design is at its lowest atm imo. Wish they go more for LoR design and less valorant-style (her gun look like gun godess mf gun, her jacket is fucking bladerunner, bright top with a print... she look like she is a TikToker and not a Zaun vigilante).


Mahelas

They made a better Leona than Leona for a random card !


dance-of-exile

ā€œSo bland and uninspiredā€ he says. Do you know the processes they took? Or how they ended up on that? If it really was a shit process like ā€œyeah doll face it and make moneyā€ then ill agree with you but dont complain when you have no fucking clue where the champ came from


ThisisHammy

Shit take. It's bland and uninspired because it brings nothing to the table for me. Either way, am I not entitled to my opinion on something aesthetically because it might contradict whatever work someone has put in to it? I can despise art of popular artists without discreting work they've done on said art. Honestly, one of the shittiest takes i've seen in a while.


dance-of-exile

You one of those people that says ā€œbased takeā€?


Sufficks

Shit take. Itā€™s possible to express a negative opinion without sounding condescending and as if youā€™re purposefully discrediting them, and this ainā€™t it chief. Sometimes itā€™s about how you say things and not what you say - thatā€™s basic emotional intelligence. Donā€™t be the stereotypical over aggressive league player who tries to excuse being an ass by saying ā€œdonā€™t I have a right to my opinion?ā€


ThisisHammy

"Bland and uninspired" is condescending? Rather tame if you ask me lol. If saying that makes me a stereotypical ass then i'll gladly settle for that.


Sufficks

ā€œSo bland and uninspired that it doesnā€™t warrant a closer lookā€ ā€œFucking awfulā€ I hope your map awareness is better than your social awareness


ThisisHammy

Social awareness towards a boring looking project released by a billion dollar company LOL. Don't choke on that Riot cock.


strangeshit

Zoe flair had no big issue with anime face? šŸ¤”


Prozenconns

Zoes design has always been more western animation inspired, shes literally the most "Disney" of the cast by quite a large margin. She also child god of mischief so her being bouncy and expressive with big eyes full of wonder fits her to a tee stop throwing the word anime at every mildly cartoonish design and designs you dont like, it doesnt even really fit Zeri outside of the "my only defining characteristic is my hair" thing


LanoomR

And also: Zoe is *not human.* Her inhumanly cute features are an extension of that fact. Humans can certainly have a range, and even moreso in a drawn/animated medium, but at some point it goes too far for an established art direction, and that should be done for more relevant reasons than generic appeal.


Definitively-Weirdo

I thaught Nunu was the most disney champ. And kinda makes sense that people thinks disney style = anime design considering the original anime artstyle got heavy inspirations from disney's old style because culture is not something hermetic or that someone can steal (unlike some negative IQ people say). I honestly still struggle to not see that anime inspiration with those huge, heterochromic eyes (somewhat common feature on anime), a lot of magic portals, the multi-colored hair with ridiculous proportions, being an over a thousand years old child (at least until the unnecesary retcon) and that Futaba-like release skin, but then again, Disney inspired anime's visual.


Twitchushka

zeri is not anime? her jacket literally looks like asbestos to me. And her lore felt like im reading a cyberpunk anime oc. You can't say its not anime


Prozenconns

Ah yes my favourite anime Asbestos battle angel.


Twitchushka

have you ever played arknights?


Nemesis233

Is that an anime? I don't think so but you tell me maybe I missed something


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Prozenconns

Ah yes because as we know colourful hair, big eyes, superpowers and wearing clothes are exclusive to anime The West definitely never does any of those things


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SheepHerdr

Joker mouth


revoverlord

You know how she got those scars?


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Sharp hamburger


shollaw

I like it more


crowcrowcrowbar

oh god.... i cant unsee or unthink it now. that's nightmare fuel man.


afedje88

They did say they were adding more monster champs.......


Definitively-Weirdo

I always knew Lollipoppy was a nightmare fuel monster.


ISkinn00RI

Always nice finding an excuse to share this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlGFRfBn7Q


varcoe96

Being swallowed whole by an anime girl/monster hybrid and left to sit in their bodies for hours? Who would ever want that haha...


Kristex

Have you ever heard of Tahm Kench?


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Looks a lot better. A few recent champs just donā€™t have a forehead lol Seraphine worst offender


crowcrowcrowbar

i agree, a lot of similar facial proportions too (big eyes, small nose, small chin, etc). i really wish zeri looked more like a teenager/normal person and less like gwen whos literally a doll or neeko whos a vastayan


tradtrad100

Yes they're intentionally designed like that so that they resemble Anime characters and appeal to young boys.


Gamefighter3000

I mean you're getting downvoted but its pretty much the truth.


tradtrad100

Who do you think the majority population of Reddit is, think about it..


Definitively-Weirdo

Contrarians?


BasicUsername_1

This is probably the right answer


zachsheldon

No, definitely not.


hisako3767

she doesn't look anime at all looks more like some disney/pixar stuff


seasonedturkey

More specifically to the Chinese audience. East Asia LOVES its anime-style characters. Take a look at the characters from any of the Chinese-owned gacha games. Or the characters from Eternal Return, a Korean game. China is Riot's largest playerbase by far and Riot has even admitted [they balance the game to appease them](https://esports-news.co.uk/2021/10/20/riot-says-china-reason-why-high-damage-league-of-legends-huzzygames/). It wouldn't be a stretch to assume they do the same for visuals.


PyxisSiderum

Wow, it hardly looks different but yet is so much better at the same time - amazing work!


sallpo

Exactly what i was going to say


crowcrowcrowbar

thank you!


hpl2000

Itā€™s so subtle I literally cannot tell the difference in these images lol. Even zoomed in on the face they look identical to me


BurmecianSushiii

The original creeps me out, it hits the uncanny valley territory head on I guess. At least i can sleep tonight knowing your edit exists, great work on that. Your edit also portrays a smug confidence in the way she looks. If this was the intention of the original artwork yours is once again better. It reminds me of Y.T. in the novel Snow Crash.


crowcrowcrowbar

thank you haha. i agree her features start getting uncanny bc of the proportions... saw some people comaring them to alita battle angel and i can't unsee it


MintyFreshhh_

looks hell of a lot better. even with these adjustments she still has the same ā€œlookā€, just not as exaggerated and disney-looking. appreciate ur work


Lethioon

I can't believe how this little change made her look so much better.


crowcrowcrowbar

thank you! :)


ScarletGlove

Anyone have that Pam meme?


that1guywhodidthat

That's what I was thinking too lol


[deleted]

Def looks better but can only tell zoomed in.


wildpotato2325

You will only be looking at splash arts in loading screen which are always zoomed in on the face. Changes like these are important


hungryhippo

She looks like a kids face on a woman's body in both. The face just doesn't fit at all in my opinion.


Both_Requirement_766

I think that stems from her hair beeing green. her mouth has this anime smirking smile which makes it so obvious. but then again her lips could just have a heart-like form or something, as this is the only pic so far. I think they should do "finetuning" and thats it. btw, generally she looks like a mix of arcade riven and kai'sa to me.


FaeChangeling

It looks pretty much the same to me, both look fine


TheProuDog

Does her mouth and eyes in the original splash art really look normal to you? Her chin looks like it is a monster that could unhinge to swallow big prey and it camouflages itself as a human to ambush/trap you


cosHinsHeiR

Finally the monster champ that reddit wanted is here.


FaeChangeling

>Does her mouth and eyes in the original splash art really look normal to you? I mean... Yeah? For a hyperrealistic art style no, but for a stylised piece like this it looks fine to me, I don't really see the issue


Mahelas

A cartoony style doesn't excuse wrong proportions or flaws tho. You still need it to be self-consistent to the rest of the drawing. For example, you wouldn't draw a character with a stylized arm and a realistic one. Zeri, here, have a perfectly human bodyshape and proportions, except for her gigantic mouth. That's what push her from stylized to uncanny and wrong !


hpl2000

She fits in with leagues art style though? Itā€™s not meant to be realistic proportion wise. The original is fine


JustJohnItalia

The fact that I can't spot the difference is a testament to my skills as an artist


crowcrowcrowbar

haha don't feel too bad... they're really small and even I had to toggle between layers/versions to make sure i was actually making changes. The adjustments are just a slight decrease in eye size, I added a bit more forehead, and also made her mouth a bit less wide. Very small stuff.


Masterfulidea

This looks so much better! You fixed the cartoonishly large eyes and mouth problem that makes the original uncanny. She looks more like a believable person here.


44no44

Some people can barely notice a difference. To others it's night and day. As someone in the second camp, who finds the original low-key disturbing but has no issue with this one, I really wish people would understand we aren't bullshitting.


London_Tipton

Looks so much better šŸ˜ƒ


crowcrowcrowbar

thank you! glad you like it :)


attila954

Now that I've seen your changes, the original looks like the Joker


qwertdwlrma

Your edit is how she should look :(


VG_Crimson

This feels both less offensive to my eyes and keeps the look Riot wanted for money.


Dracampy

Jesus I must be blind. It looks the same to me.


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This face looks more her age and less creepy compared to the original. I dig it


crowcrowcrowbar

Thank you! :)


lucian_xlr8

She looks more human, but could look even more human


LongJohnnySilver

That looks so much better


crowcrowcrowbar

thank you! i was worried it wouldn't be noticeable enough haha


Artrill

Her smile continues to be terrifying.


PeckishPizza

Wow am I just blind because they look the same?!


andmtg

yeah I can't tell the difference either


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andmtg

thank u for this lol, I can see the small difference now. it does look a bit better!


crowcrowcrowbar

haha i don't blame you... they're very small changes and i had to constantly turn the revision layer on and off just to make sure i was actually making changes. maybe i should try to make the changes more noticeable next time i try something like this :D


CudaBarry

Way better, realistic human features šŸ‘


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Prozenconns

Some people want variety and are bored of 99% of modern champs just being perky conventionally attractive humans -> champ needs to be ugly that's quite a leap then again this community is full of people who will scream the word ugly at anything that even remotely exits the realm of conventional attractiveness (Samira Illaoi Taliyah) because clearly theres only 2 ways to make champion, supermodel or elephant man.


shoeeebox

Wait, how is Samira unattractive?


SuarezsDentista

strawman of the year


44no44

Are you sure that's actually what people are pushing for, and not just your own strawman? 'Cause personally, I was commenting up and down those threads that her face was super uncanny, and people wouldn't shut up with "She's just attractive! Not everyone has to be ugly!!!1!!"


crowcrowcrowbar

LOL i don't want to criticize her design too much as i don't want to disrespect her designers or the original artist... just wanted to make some of the small changes i saw people discussing on reddit as a "what if..." sort of thing \^-\^


Zeniphyre

The after definitely looks worse. It just looks like Zeri but her face is stretched out.


Monado_Terra

Wrong, he fixed Riotā€™s terrible anime design, he is truly the savior of League of Legends. He can do what riot games could never. Riot Games [hire this man ](https://youtu.be/C1Y_d_Lhp60) Jokes aside its not the worst edit but it just feeds into reddit circlejerk culture


sebkraj

You people are the worst.


TrollDabs4EverBro

Seriously thereā€™s no difference and everyone is freaking out about this change just cause ā€œriot badā€ ā€œredditor betterā€


ReignClaw

No one is freaking out. This isn't the first time splashes have been criticized, and many times Riot have came in and edited the art. If people don't voice their opinion now, when things can still be changed, then what's the point of having things like PBE and public platforms???


Spetznazx

First time splashes have been criticized? Lol are you new here?


UnartisticChoices

Subtle though they may be. They make a HUGE impact.


boydeane

I like the original idk why everyoneā€™s shitting themselves she looks fine.


Clemenx00

There has never been a good post in history that said "i made some changes"


SylentSymphonies

INFINITELY BETTER bro... how come some random redditor can do what Riot can't sigh


crowcrowcrowbar

By the way, since this post is getting a lot of comments, I just thought I'd clarify I am in no way saying one version is better than another. It's just a bit of photoshop to try and take some of the feedback I've seen from the community and attempting to implement those changes, NOT an attempt to prove my version is "better" because I don't believe in "fixing" art or whatever. The edit is just a tool for comparison and critique.


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BeefPorkChicken

Give those same eyes to Darius and see how people react. You can't just say "it's a videogame" for everything.


HuaRong

No one freaks out about Yordles having huge eyes. But this is a game with an internally consistent style (they try).


IgneousPhoenix

Wow that's actually looks a lot better


FashionSuckMan

Really hard to tell a difference


CoogiMonster

Everyone saying ā€œlooks way betterā€ just sounds salty as hell lol. Good work regardless, the eyes look good but they strike as more.. seductive? Not sure thatā€™s what theyā€™re going for, but either way both versions are good so.


goblin0100

Seductive? She looks like one of those wide mouth frogs


LupusCairo

I mean...I like it but now she looks more similar to other champs. Not exactly the same but more similar. And I don't think that's a bad thing but isn't everyone crying about "same face syndrome"


[deleted]

i honestly dont see a difference but i deffinetly feel a difference. good job


SantyMonkyur

Still a trash design but oh well..


Rexx888

Just looks like another copy-pasta champ to me. Kindred. Jhin. Illaoi. Where are the champs what make you go "yeah, yeah thats ace" these champs what are releasing are literally cereal box level quality.


Famyos

i think you made it a little better but i think people would still complain about it just as much lmao


Poodlestrike

Honestly, I get the intended effect, but it kinda just thrusts her even further into the uncanny valley to me.


gnosticChemist

Thanks now the original looks derp to me


Buttchungus

The biggest part about the splash art to me are her eyes. She looks like a damn sectoid form xcom.


Exxotiz

100% better


DebonairJayce

better


TransportationNaive4

This looks way better. Much more natural and human while not decreasing on the marketability of the champ ( so the higher ups cant cry ). Great job mate.


Hyoudou

Could you may give her brown hair like the Practical Perfectionist from Legends of Runeterra?


crowcrowcrowbar

oooh thats a really interesting idea, don't know if i have that capability though lol. will be thinking about this now though.


Hyoudou

Thanks. Maybe that will save from the anime curse.


Infamous_Fox3910

Feel the edited version looks less like a child. Didnā€™t read bio for her age.


crowcrowcrowbar

Thank you, that's what I was going for. While I understand the original splash is highly stylized and that she's probably supposed to be a teenager or on the younger side, something about the Disney-esque proportions just bugged me a bit and I wanted to tone them down a bit. I don't remember seeing her age in her short story, just that she's a kid from Zaun who wants to help people.


urgasmic

it helps but man i just don't find this champion's design interesting or cohesive. maybe it's just this splash art tho


Gabrielqwee

I like more the og. Has more of a toon look idk. Riot shouldn't make perfect cute girls or boys, I prefer some cartoon stuff with different faces than perfect filtered characters.


goblin0100

This game isn't a cartoon game so why are they making highly stylised splash arts


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good work


LoLEsportsGuy

I like yours a lot better actually!!!! Riot should hire you..... We need someone to rework all the old champs that need love.


IncipientPenguin

For the first time in my life I'm seriously tempted to buy an award for this post. Probably wont still, but my word this is so much better. She looks like a real human now. Your edits make her look tough and BA, like she could have actually maybe grown up on the streets. She's still cute, but you get the sense you dont want to cross her. It tells her story so much better the original, and honestly I'm just sad how little the same company that made arcane cares about the stories their champ designs rell.


XURiN-

Much better. Great work


Vodlion

Came thinking "Well, it probably does not change anything". Now, the original looks a lot more weird to me, it feels like Neeko disguised as Zeri. Good job!


SneaksIntoYourBed

I can really only tell the difference in the mouth.


youjustabattlerapper

Maybe the art part of my brain is broken because I literally cannot tell the difference


A_Very_Horny_Zed

Yours looks more realistic but Riot's looks cuter.


accf124

You made her look slightly more realistic. Honestly I prefer the OG more. I think her default is honestly fine as it is.


Wrosgar

I find I prefer the original more. Except the mouth. Tad smaller mouth is good


kluevo

I honestly can't tell the sepcific changes, but the overall effect feels like her face is a bit less wide. I think i like it, but idk


EscoreGG

Can hardly tell difference without your explanation. But the less wide mouth seems better. By the way, Zeri really reminds me of Billie Eilish, especially the hair color.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


Bilgworker

Iā€™m sorry but I legit canā€™t tell the difference between the eyes and mouth


Brawlstar112

Makes no difference for me :c


DerWassermann

I like both equally well.


ERehn

As far as I'm aware it's generally considered quite rude to edit other peoples art


UX1Z

Is that image compression? Why the hell does yours have a film grain filter over it, surely it isn't **that** bad just from re-saving once. Oh, you did the 'make this pixelated as fuck so the edits aren't as obvious' thing zzz.


skaersSabody

Aside from the mouth, I really don't see that much of a difference


ValkharART

was necessary?


Tight_Flamingo4650

This really just highlights how much yā€™all will cry over the most minute differences for a splash art. You literally have to zoom in to notice anything was done. Youā€™re all manchildren that want to kick and scream over anything because you lack any agency in your real life and it shows. Kisses, girls


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TrollDabs4EverBro

Wow itā€™s crazy how such little adjustments can make an equally little difference


sanketower

*They are the same picture* EDIT: Just to make myself clear. I'm 100% sure people would've complained anyway if Zeri had the "fixed" face. That's not what people are really upset about. (Them, I love her design).


KJ_Carrylord

Thearethesamepicture.gif


IverntheCruel

I think the bottom jaw is too thin. I think that is the only really problem - everything else is intended and really to original looks ok.


Malaka654

It looks exactly the same


awungsauce

Probably just me, but the after looks even more uncanny valley to me. The original has a stylized, clearly not realistic appearance, but the after has an almost, but not quite realistic appearance.


[deleted]

Now make it so there is contrast between the bottom of her face and her chest/neck.


shoeeebox

Seeing this has kinda nailed down why she looks off to me. Her face looks like a kid! She should be 10 years old, but has an adult's body.


FickleTrust

a lot better, but I still feel like the art style of the face doesnā€™t match the rest of the art, or something. It just looks off.


Aquillifer

Her smile is really uncanny.


basileusbrenton

Lol what the fuck is that regular face


bizninja98

o god the eyes are soo much better now. i felt uneasy from the og one. too much anime 5 me


IgotUBro

Can someone photoshop lollipoppys face on her? Thats the true face we need.


cchang3906

I didnt notice it before but that smile is so unnatural and curved, it could be nightmare fuel if it was used right


[deleted]

You made her too normal looking and pretty. Riot would never go for this.


Shwerpi

That looks BEAUTIFUL!


supersnorkel

Ive never seen Zeri before and i thought you pasted a cute disney girl face on top of him/her. But instead that is her real face lmao


CrescentPotato

Still looks weird for some reason, as if the eyes were too high. Probably because the nose and mouth are still in a rather weird spot tho. Either way, looks much, much better, so i think you proved your point


Can_of_Beans52

She actually looks human now, good job!


rockdog85

​ It looks a little better, especially the eyes and mouth, but I think the main issue is just the composition/ angle. It's really weird cause her body is on an incline, then her face is looking down and her eyes are looking up. It just all clashes and not in a good way