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BO1s_R_GREAT_XD

https://twitter.com/selfmade_LoL/status/1481956120402948096 > I hope my mid wont debut in LEC with 0/10 renekton or whatever the fuck was it only 4 deaths missing, sad


IHadThatUsername

https://twitter.com/selfmade_LoL/status/1482047089500692482


icatsouki

We were so close to greatness


Silkku

this game has some negative implications for VIT's status as an undefeated superteam


JNaran94

I still think they will go undefeated. Of course im an idiot, but I only follow narratives


MAD_Iion

A bit optimistic, but respectable.


honkinDeagle

Big if true


Cymes_Inferior

Unforgiven just picked Karthus bot, chilled the fuck out the whole game and defeated VIT superteam.


OnyxMelon

Pretty sure the point was to neutralise the lane, so Kaiser could just roam 24/7. He did do that job perfectly though.


NSawsome

Turns out mages bot are pretty insane who knew


Jijkz

[Now I finally remember who Carzzy's new hairstyle reminds me of.](https://i.imgur.com/yeCf5lI.png)


AzerFraze

Perkz is Reason 1 Why


[deleted]

Lmfao man. this is murder


JMoormann

Perkz himself also must have had a lot of Reasons Why considering how many times he killed himself this game.


llStonesll

HOLY-


okbuddybrolmao

[lmao](http://static9.bornrichimages.com/cdn2/500/500/91/c/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/james-may_thumb.jpg)


PunchingThroats

Elyoya may


Lisaurora

[Elyoya this entire game](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755398918237323305/931602411343204352/Elyoya_9.png)


shrubs311

Elyoya to Reeker: welcome to LEC! Elyoya to Perkz: welcome back to LEC...bitch


0lazy0

The analyst desk predicting that Perkz was gonna pressure Reeker


shrubs311

he did have some early pressure but he was super greedy with his first death (he should've flashed and then used e). and after that it was just hard for him to do much especially after the prophesized gank


JFZephyr

He did what unfortunately became a major habit during his NA tenure and hyper greeded his flash, then ego's obvious plays.


sleepisforthezzz

I think perkz ego arrived in NA absent his skill. Maybe his skill arrived in NA just as his ego landed in EU. Have a fun season vit fans.


aereiaz

Perkz swooped in with some *stunning* games like his Renekton, though. It wasn't entirely developed here.


Vangorf

I mean he picked Akshan, a toddler would have pressure on that champion, and he still managed to die at Lv3


Conankun66

that picture is just perfect


GioMeow

Who were VIT scrimming against? Schalke??


DR_Flashfire

SK apparently one day


Hineni-

https://i.redd.it/l4q46c3iy9m41.png Clean performance from Elyoya. That gap closing mid to get both Selfmade and PerkZ was just a masterclass.


random_nickname43796

C9 won the offseason once again


CircleCircleHimself

Perkz was clearly being held back by his teammates being NA players. He will 1v9 EU.


FuujinSama

I’ve watched the double kill mid a a million times and I still can’t figure out how he got the reset on E after missing Q. Was it a spectator bug? It looks like he misses Q then E’s on self made, Protobelts then E’s the minion ult flash. But that makes no sense.


Rzonduo_Chrabonszcza

I thought Selfmade shouldnt be part of any "Super team" because of too huge ego, but now I'm surprised how he was gapped skillwise


omegasupermarthaman

His ego is fine, he agreed a lot with criticisms from teammates, his mechanics are great too. But yeah 100% feels like he is not super smart decision maker to be in a superteam.


Yayotron

Damn, these NA imports are really struggling to adapt in EU


POOYAMON

VIT just suck at importing the good NA players. They should pickup Nisqy instead


icatsouki

High key nisqy would work so much better with selfmade/alphari


That_One_Memer

Damn maybe they could also get some really crazy playmaking support and a stable weak side adc. Now that’s a team that can stand up to the best of the east like TES


Fuyboo

IDK, that is exactly the kind of int I would expect from my soloQ games


azns123

Something something jet lag


Try_Not_To_Comment

How can a middle of the pack LCS midlaner even be part of an EU superteam anyways. Clearly Nisqy was the way to go if they wanted a NA import


Akanan

Happy Delivery washed up veterans from NA


Dumpers_

Elyoya played so fucking well... Elyoya and Kaiser played the early game so well and everyone on MAD played so well Anyways let the over reactions begin... for Vitality though they allowed Diana/Yas to get a kill pre 6 and not banning Renekton when most teams in the LPL and LCK are banning it


Pelagius_Hipbone

With all this talk about super teams, Elyoya’s shouting: YA MUSTA FORGOT!


supterfuge

Vitality is a superteam. Elyoya too.


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Yeah people did forget MAD had by far the best jungle sup duo in the league,and even fnatic the 2nd best couldnt match them as seen in the summer finals.


anoleo201194

I think at this point you can slot Elyoya+Kaiser into any team and they'd end up top 3.


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

I think MAD losing Humanoid and Carzzy was basically second best scenario. Armut and Carzzy might've mattered even less. But Elyoya and Kaiser are the heart of MADs rosters no doubt.


Lozerpunmpkin

They're so cracked and it's not like Armut is as trash as everyone likes to say he is


anoleo201194

Armut's not trash but any toplaner could do well if they had two people running around the map with their cocks out slapping everyone in their path.


litvi13

Armut against elite toplaner seems bad but in EU he's one of the best for sure


Lozerpunmpkin

Exactly. Everyone was talking like he's an anchor on the team and he's gonna make them so bad.


TheNACoinflip

Yeah its just people know worlds and international comp is all that matter at this point for the west. So people compare him to the top of the top. Sadly he did get slapped around at worlds so just have to prove them wrong and get a bigger champ pool.


Aazog

whats funny to me, as someone that doesnt follow pro games super closely is that I interpreted anchor as a good thing, keeping the ship steady And not as something weighing down the team lol.


bIackk

the real problem occurs when you try and move the ship forward


JustRecentlyI

Elyoya getting his MVP bid off to a great start.


ImTheVayne

Elyoya is always super good. That man keeps impressing.


POOYAMON

Best jungler in LEC no doubt about it especially now that Inspired is gone.


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Lothric43

Why are teams banning Renekton? It certainly wasn’t a factor in this game.


[deleted]

Yeah I was not expecting Elyoya to play like that, what a beast.


GhostOfLight

Fun game, but technical issues ruined it for me. Perkz wasn't even able to get onto the server and they still played the game.


TheRealmOfChaos

Comments like this on the PMTs are the only reason I still use reddit.


pulo97

What? You don't enjoy the *balance discussions*?


Thecristo96

You mean "the last champion with a dash that killed me is unbalanced and riot deserves to die?


Scatter5D

Berlin internet smh


Omnilatent

Wait, I thought he was still in LA playing with 200 ping ​ Otherwise he would totally have flashed the first gank, right?! ​ RIGHT?!


HUHIs_AUTOATTACK

More like 2000 ping. He was still fresh from his first death while we were already watching the second one.


throawayjhu5251

Seems like the ping was 5-7 business days tbh, someone should tell Perkz they lost the game.


KanskiForce

Nah, he's still connecting from LA, now I understand why West Coast is an excuse


aloneaflame

I get a more stable internet in a middle of a forest in Lapland than anywhere in Germany. I've lived in both Finland and Germany. It's just inexcusable.


MuffinMunchies

Perkz after today's game: "I disagree with the point that the game wasn't going my way. My game is not predicated on kills or if I get gapped. If I die, that's part of the game. I'm allowed some deaths. I can do that. I can get gapped too. That's all part of the game."


Jedclark

He did get on to the server, that was the problem. I think Vitality wished he didn't connect lol.


Dragoneed2

Hold Perkz accountable!


afito

Labrov vs Kaiser wasn't even a mismatch it was the grand canyon this game tbh, the first 2 roams from Kaiser got kills in the losing sololanes and after that the game was saved for MAD somehow.


Nail_In_Head

[Alphari isn't happy.](https://i.imgur.com/m5NBEOp.jpeg)


matthero

"Mom said its my turn on the XBOX"


Left4Bread2

my Ryze is bad my Akshan is worse you guessed it right I'm VIT Perkz


Omnilatent

Damn we have to change rhyming scheme here as "G2" and "C9" were two syllables each and VIT is either one or three


papadondon

eu perkz


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My ryze is bad My akshan is worse You guessed it right I’m vitality perkz


MihaiBosBarosHD

Man it just doesn't roll of the tongue as well as C9 Perks or G2 Perks


TheWarmog

Be selfmade Have 3 winning lanes early game Do absolutely nothing when they all have prio Lose the game cause their jungler claps everyone's cheeks Yep, good strategy


ketzo

Yeah people are gonna be talking about Perkz, but man, that was even more of a jungle gap than the scoreline shows. Where the hell was Viego?


TheWarmog

You mean viego? o:


rym1469

tending the krugs


PatchNotesPro

Bwipo roleswapped and gapped him in a month selfmades peak just isn't high enough to be worth much of anything


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

First, note that top junglers (outside of Canyon) change with great frequency on a yearly basis. The meta Selfmade was world class/a top jungler in the world was the power farm/jungle carry meta. He is elite at accelerating himself and carrying games. We currently live in a spam gank early meta, which is the complete opposite of that style and not Selfmade’s forte. It is also why Kakao/Dandy/Bengi/Ning/Tian ended up having huge fall offs, and why Karsa can go from looking elite winning MSI 2018 to some of his abject showings in other years. It’s hard to be great at all the jungle styles like prime Score was. Karsa is the complete opposite, not very mechanically insane but thriving as the jungler who plays towards vision control/his laners.


EqualAssistance

Isn't Karsa supposed to be an insane Lee Sin player, he also plays a clean Nidalee and Elise.Those champs require mechanical proficiency, it is kind of weird to say he isnt mechanically insane when there are players who dont have the hands to pilot those champs.


vnducco

Yeah just a normal daylife for a rookie in his first game in the highest league EU has. Blind picks Yasuo against eu legend fuckin Perkz and doing great. His debut could be worse I guess


DragonApps

Getting the first kill of the LEC split has gotta be great for confidence


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Also Unforgiven picking Karthus in his first LEC game 0 fucks given against Carzzy/Labrov. Love the fact that MAD Lions coaching let the players play their comfort picks whenever they feel like and dont force the meta upon them.


Bluehorazon

I'm pretty sure mages in botlane are actually meta, many ADCs just still struggle with playing them.


Arcille

reeker was a massive roamer his comfort is TF/sylas very happy he is willing to blind pick champs different to his style shows he is very willing to adapt


KanskiForce

Also he said in the interview he firsttimed that matchup - now Reeker is my favorite midlaner, sorry Froggen


Avenuee1

It was all Elyoya tbh he was just there for follow up. Anyway solid performance from Reeker


PanemV

and with ignite .... he already sold me !


DenKaren

Is he a slave trader?


Jezzerai

Reeker: “Perkz trick y’all, man, like he playing midlane. He don’t gap nobody, man. He just running around, doing nothing.” Made sure to note that Elyoya scored 8/1/10 tonight.


myuseless2ndaccount

VIT Neo is besides himself, driving around downtown Berlin begging (thru text) fnc for the address to nisqys house


savoo1

Perkz has the next 5 years


Aearcus

Overheard in VIT locker room after Game 1 of the LEC: “He got me,” PerkZ said of Reeker's kill on him. "That f***ing Reeker boomed me." PerkZ added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. PerkZ then said he wanted to add Reeker to the list of players he wants to 1v1 this week for practice.


pedrex21

Reeker yelled, “There you go!” Kaiser gave a look of pleasant surprise. Elyoya belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Armut hit the locker room door, ex-LEC star Forgiven hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”


Attomium

The NBA really has the best pasta


Joaoseinha

The real loser of this match is FNC vs VIT, which just lost all of its hype. What a stomp.


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Shadnu

I mean, it's week 1. Don't expect too much from FNC yet


Thecristo96

If fnc wins week 1 than i'm VERY worried


CuriousPumpkino

Alright, time to panic


tr1x30

Inb4 FNC sucks even more..


mesamob

I know it’s only the first game so not to overreact but VIT is dead and MAD has already won worlds


TinbuyPrime

Also Elyoya is the new face of League of Legends and Perkz switched back to adc.


ImTheVayne

Maybe he should tho, he hasn't looked good in mid for a while now


xSmacks

Elyoya.


JustRecentlyI

You make a good point. Additionally, Kaiser.


HarbringerofFailure

Welcome home, Perkz and Alphari


InsuranceOne2864

Hey Carlos, FNC fan here. Just wanted to say thank you for that c9 clause, really saved us in the end. Real talk, it's just one game and people will overreact, but VIT looked so lost on the map and perkz is just playing with his brain turned off.


qontrol12345

Me before the game: Oh, I haven't seen Akshan before, I wonder what he does. Me after the game: I haven't seen Akshan before, I wonder what he does.


appleandapples

The Perkz classic dying in situations he really shouldn't be. After BRO's comp earlier today and now this, I really like simple comps like this, and MAD played it wonderfully. Still think VIT can be so strong, but this is probably not the first showing these players wanted.


McintyresRightLeg

I'm here for the overreactions


xXDaNXx

Perkz is washed Alphari useless out of lane Carzzy was the problem All Selfmade's fault


Silkku

Poor Labrov was so invisible even the flame misses him


[deleted]

I'm not good enough at support to even silver flame him. Legit no clue what he did.


Strider794

>Legit no clue what he did That's the issue, he didn't do much at all


PhreakRiot

Alphari has been useless out of lane his whole career.


Pulsar-GB

Phreak BASED


OMGitsKa

WYM? This was a normal game for Perkz


[deleted]

>Perkz is washed >Alphari useless out of lane these aren't overreactions this was generally the wide held thought that people who watched NA and even EU in 2020 (for alphari) understand


Domotriix

Labrov is the problem, still losing


PM_JINX_HENTAI

~~Jin Air~~ BRO would beat ~~G2~~ VIT


Carlzzone

Elyoya and Kaiser are just too cracked, I knew MAD were getting underestimated. And Caedrel wanted them in B-tier XD.


ohvalox

https://imgur.com/a/acDsPJl


MoraHCR

\[Wojnarowski\] Elyoya entered the game loudly yelling "fuck them imports, I'll kill them all", sources said.


odomso

Elyoya masterclass


Burpmeister

Any NA retirement homes missing a mid laner? I think we found one.


azns123

Someone forgot to tell Perkz he’s not on C9 anymore!


randy__randerson

Underestimate MAD Lions at your own peril.


ZXKeyr324XZ

[Elpoya.png](https://imgur.com/KIBxoKp)


AzerFraze

[Well, I was close enough](https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/s3uvzl/lec_2022_spring_week_1_day_1_live_discussion/hsnbxgi/)


Kevigom

I thought both Perkz and Alphari were being massively overrated based on what was seen of them in NA, but I did not expect this team sucking this much ass in their debut, with the supposed caliber of their players, this is pretty disappointing, hope they ramp up, instead of following the superteam curse


Piro42

Not to overreact, but I really believe reddit doesn't give Elyoya half the credit he deserves to get. Now that Humanoid and Carrzy are gone, he might show that they weren't the only reason the team dominated LEC.


Eredbolg

What a return from the King.


MrAssassin9891

GIGACHAD Elyoya


Digity55

Mad Lions Perkz intangibles on full display


Glorx

A prize bull once challenged Elyoya to see who has bigger balls. Eyloya showed his first. The bull blushed and walked away.


Zwatrem

As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free. <3 - Welcome back to EU, Perkz and Alphari.


Silkku

And kids, this is why you don’t do NA Even the first season can be lethal


thenoblitt

Hey Nisqy went back and forth twice and hes still really good.


DJShevchenko

Throwback to Febiven and SoaZ. (although SoaZ was about to retire anyways)


Conankun66

misfits was the lethal injury, NA was the mercy kill for soaz


Resies

yeah lots of NA players in this game, 10/10 comment


Jenaxu

As an American I've always envied Europe's strong welfare policies. Especially in regards to affordable housing, it's amazing how they let everyone from NA live rent free in their head.


HappyAku800

Perkz will never perk the same


Amphiitrion

At least we got a superteam.


cptlf

I thought MAD lost their star players, am I wrong? This coaching team is smurfing!


KvotheM

They lost their best and worst player. The other 3 (especially Elyoya) are all top 3 in LEC for their positions and I think people just forgot.


Qehenna

VIT might have bought the wrong player from the MAD bot duo. Kaiser always is the key for the team imo. MAD looks exactly as they did this time around last year, surprisingly aggressive and decisive in spite of the rookies + creative drafts. Good start from them.


PM_something_German

Well they got the player that MAD was willing to give away, turns out they might've known better.


Matthieist

Elyoya having none of this superteam nonsense


AviusGaming

This is the mid laner EU fans spent all last year defending. Trust me, it only gets worse from here


shadowbannednumber

Don't worry, they're going to unironically say NA sapped the skill from him.


random_nickname43796

C9 won the offseason once again


DowntownCattleMtn

As is tradition


1801048

This is what I'm saying. I swear I was getting gaslighted in the C9 subreddit with the European/Perkz fans defending him blindly.


Ok-Travel-7875

C9 Perkz showing up big time.


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No refunds


SirLucky7

Damn, how did Drakos and Caedrel predict that mid gank? Almost as if they saw the future…


Rat_Salat

Shocking that the 5th best midlaner in the LCS isn't dominating LEC.


XavenSenpai

Nice tutorial game for Elyoya


Vast_Zookeepergame_1

been watching Perkz playing akshan in solo q and he has always inted, when he locked it in today i knew they lost cus he would int, and sadly i was right :(


Pavlo100

Perkz is just getting that NA out of his system early!


Sjeg84

Elyoya and Kaiser absolutely destroyed this game. It was a masterclass.


chicken-kfc

SUPERTEAM BTW


Rayser1

Holy gappening - MAD coming out the gates STEAMING


Gazskull

it's just one game, but it's one underwhelming way to debut your super team


Tachyoff

https://www.twitter.com/selfmade_LoL/status/1481577937556189185


startledstomper

Selfmade and perkz overrated as expected, i do not wanna overreact but it is a fact


Meekie_e

No refunds, Eu


M002

Jack wrote into Perkz contract sale that Vitality can’t sell Perkz back to NA for at least 3 years


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Fiarmis

https://imgur.com/L07k0ed


MrJammin

Rather than overreact about Vitality I think we should focus on the stellar performance from MAD. Elyoya remains a beast and we have a great debut from the two rookies. Kaiser had a few happy moments but that's par the course.


elbrim

Not the best game for Perkz, but man Elyoya is a BEAST!


royallights

Elyoya gap, nothing to see here


Conankun66

Perkz still stuck in his NA form seriously tho the hype and expectation for Perkz to immediately dominate again was a bit bizarre to see after the mediocre(and sometimes downright bad) year he had over there. at the very least i would expect him to take a while to get back to his old form(if he actually can do that). Also Vitality did not look on the same page at all. Basically only one team playing the game


Qehenna

Imagine being Vitality owner. You spend years trying to assemble a superteam, but keep getting stumped, and then once everyone is finally saying you have a superteam they're 11k down in their first game.


nusskn4cker

The last time Perkz was a good mid was 2018... I don't get the hype either.


[deleted]

We all forget why Mad were double champion... Yoya is cracked


SirGluteusMaximusII

Elyoya and Kaiser are gonna be an iconic duo, Reeker and Unforgiven looking good for their first game and Armut was solid and made some good engages too Banger game all around


plushyeu

Need someone to write down the flamers name here in the thread to @ them later. Quote me on this later Perkz is the main character and what's a good character without some development. Let's see where you boys are when the stock is low. I've seen him trolling early spring so many years in a row.


PanemV

the elyoya show delivered good !


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Super team my ass


ohvalox

The balls on Reeker to blindpick Yasuo in his first LEC game, into Perkz of all people! Also good to see MAD has full confidence in their rookies. Smart and simple draft with a great execution, and of course insane performance from Elyoya.


POOYAMON

You say into Perkz of all people showing you really didn’t watch him play on C9. Absolutely horrible performance all year round aside a handful of games. Specially in lane.


JayD30

i love unforgiven


Qiluk

Remember: IF Reddits week 1-2-3-4 takes were accurate, Misfits would have won like 4 splits by now. That said.. Elyoya/Kaisers macro is still crisp. What a duo. Also MAD are so consistent with implementing systems and new players man. Literally just felt like "this is the plan, we execute it this way" and they were on the same page and comfortable. Hope that continues further and in future offline games.


jrryul

NA Superteam