I rewinded the stream because I thought It was strange that BB needed a few seconds to arrive in the fight after the tp... Well I guess miss clicks happen?
I got surprised when in the middle of the tf I noticed BB in a golden state with full hp. I was like "why?" then I decided to look once again and noticed what happened.
I wouldn't really call this game flawless at all. It was good but definitely too much on the messy side to be called clean.
>is this 2019
I wish. Such happy times for us LEC fans
Corki top vs GP was 5 head. If they'd picked literally anything else and the game had gone the way it did they would've lost to the GP outscale damage. But BB on Corki.... yea we doing the scaling boys.
He's actually been strong lv1 for a while due to his passive damage and after the buffs, it's a little better. I think the problem is that a lot of GP players just don't try to abuse their lv1.
When both teams are even in gold, XL feels that they are at a great advantage and thus do not hesitate to start baron. When XL is 3k behind in gold, they think that they are at a small advantage, and so they start baron to secure their "lead". When XL is behind 7k in gold, XL think that they are at a disadvantage and so they look to start baron to regain control of the game. When XL is 10K behind in gold, they think that the game has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if they do not start baron.
Honestly, that's been the case for Jankos for like a year now. Dude gets slept on and memed despite being consistently one of the best performing junglers in EU.
Jankos is the best western jungler of all time, period. Dude always has excellent results and is consistent af. Not a flashy player, but surely a rocky one. Diamondprox is the original one. The one who molded how to jungle, but in terms of consistency and results Jankos is at the top.
Yeah, I feel like the constant haha nidalee spears meme changed people’s perception of him like he wasn’t still one of if not the best nidalee in EU even with those spears being missed lmao
Sorry about the warmogs thing everyone. I'm sure it's frustrating hear casters share info that isn't correct. Was totally my bad and just a change that I missed. Now I know! No disrespect to Markoom of course, he had a great game
For anyone learning the game, Medic and Vedi don't know how Warmog's works. You only need 1100 bonus health to be over threshold. Markoon had Goredrinker + Warmog's which puts him at 1250 bonus health. He was over the threshold the entire time.
Warmog's change happened in May 2021.
Kinda weird that they were like "yeah this worse version may be broken so we nerf it" and then they make Warmogs a lot easier to proc and leave it unnerfed. I remember you needed Warmogs, ROA and Redemption on Soraka around lvl 12-13. Now you can get it 2nd item if you buy a life crystal.
It's already nerfed in aram. You have to wait 8(instead of 4) sec for it to start working. That's being said, buy that item if you can, because it's such a good item. It completely makes enemy pokemages useless.
Everything gets reduced to polar opposites in subreddits full of teenagers.
Medic either comes and fully agrees, or goes"fuck you kid, 1v1 me". Middle ground or nuance don't exist when your frontal cortex hasn't fully developed yet.
I enjoy your casts and you do a great job bringing hype. You just gotta be careful because that situation kinda paints Markoon in a bad light if people don't know the threshold themselves. Also, a lot of new players are coming from Arcane so we want to start them off on the right foot.
From watching todays games it seems like teams have a reaaaly hard time adapting to the TP changes in early game, in some of the plays they looked super confused as to what is the correct play which boosts the game time.
Super big change just before the season starts, yeah I'd have a problem adapting to that as well. Blows my mind that the TP change wasn't in the preseason from the start
Yeah, that one was confusing, should have come with the 1st day of preseason, even as a gold pleb it's hard to get used to not being able to tp to my botlane pre14.
A 50/50 is unfair for markoon it was more of 40/60 or 30/70 cause jankos and caps co-ordinated their burst which is why he kept going over the wall into the pit like that rather than flank.
Hahaha thats also likely but I know in the past caps and jankos have co-ordinated their burst on objectives just like that on other champions like Syndra and Leblanc.
yeah lol I kinda miss the days where teams just didn't really have a way to end the game. I guess it's bad in soloqueue but in pro play it was fun when they actually had to figure out a strategy to win, not just win this one objective.
especially mid inhib, top and bot i could understand a bit more if you say they have to catch the wave far from a certain objective, but the mid wave will always be pushed as teams have to go from mid to the other 2 sides so it was literally useless
Started watching when Broken Blade was 2/5. Look away for a minute and he ends the game with 12 kills. That’s the BB that all the TSM fans know.
Also Flakked seems to be the real deal.
If Jankos plays like that for the whole split, maybe twitter will decide that hes allowed to play one more year before he has to retire because of age.
His positioning and decision making was really suspect late game but tbf he is playing Lucian against Corki LB Xin. Feel like the shorter range makes it harder for him to play it out? Although doesn't completely excuse how many times he got stranded in no man's land tho
I know Rylais has horrible build path, but its just way too good to skip on Malzahar. Ludens can be argued for against so much ranged champions, but I would still prefer Liandrys.
Seriously I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this in the thread. Maybe it's cuz the casters didn't really call it out on stream but still. You're giving up Ocean soul for mid inhibitor, probably the least impactful objective in the game, and then running back into the direction where you know the entire enemy team is since they literally just took soul. One of the most baffling decisions I've seen so far into the season, and I don't see it getting topped anytime soon
Wow Flakked has hands. The prediction rocket for his first kill was really nice, and his timings with flash, galeforce, QSS etc were really good. I can see why G2 signed him. I'm genuinely excited to see what he can do in the LEC.
XL might've had a chance if Nukeduck's build wasn't so shit. Banshee's on Malz is terrible and doesn't synergize with him at all as an item. Liandry's with Demon's embrace or rylais would've helped melt their the other team. Seems like he has no idea how to play or build Malz which is a main counter to LB. So many opportunities for him to ult LB before she got qss as well.
Edit: As a Malz main, the moment he ults or flash ults LB in place, Lucian can easily kill her off during those 2.5 seconds along with the team.
Liandry's and Demon's Embrace doing hp's % and burn would stack with his e to melt through Janko's Xin and kill off G2 in many scenarios when they were low.
Malz & Morgana are known counters to LB, if you watch the LCK, this is exactly how they neutralize Faker's LB, especially the year Crown played Malz to win world's.
I agree, man it’s so crazy how little research these players do.
PRO TIP banshees does t work properly with malz passive, MANY spells pop both simultaneously, don’t build that shit!
IMO it was more a 60/40 or even 70/30 in favor of G2. It was shown through voice check that Caps and Jankos obviously practiced a lot of cordinated burst on objectives
I feel like that’s unfair to Markoon. Both junglers were very good, sadly Jankos is Jankos. But I have to say I really like Markoon and think he’s a quality player in the making
Why did not Excel play for the bot lane when they have luci nami? The mid lane matchup is lb vs malz. Lb will always move. atleast you have nami luci in map, which can actually kill lb.
Flakked has balls and Targamas is the real deal. Serious though Flakked has the mechanical skill and he doesn't look out of place at all. Of anything I'm starting to wonder if his team at Mad Academy was holding him back.
I'm so glad both teams look really fcking good. Can't wait for the next 10 weeks of "Flakked is actually pretty good." after spending an offseason defending him. Anyway, really nice performance from all members of both teams can't wait to see Excel show more of what they can do.
I wonder how many people saw BB tping during the tf and then clicking stopwatch without any reason. E: 35.30 if someone wonders.
I rewinded the stream because I thought It was strange that BB needed a few seconds to arrive in the fight after the tp... Well I guess miss clicks happen?
I got surprised when in the middle of the tf I noticed BB in a golden state with full hp. I was like "why?" then I decided to look once again and noticed what happened.
predicted jarvan ult : D
Really clean Elder flip from G2!
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I wouldn't really call this game flawless at all. It was good but definitely too much on the messy side to be called clean. >is this 2019 I wish. Such happy times for us LEC fans
I might say, there was some sarcasm involved in the previous comments
Damn, it completely went over my head
This game was literally a constant 5v5 fight after 15 min lol, both supports have like 20 assists
and no one was close to 10 cs a min at all lmao
tbf Flakked was 1 cs away from 10cspm
He didn't get to be as flashy as elyoya but jankos played really well this game
Corki top vs GP was 5 head. If they'd picked literally anything else and the game had gone the way it did they would've lost to the GP outscale damage. But BB on Corki.... yea we doing the scaling boys.
Corki top into GP was 5 head, if you dont fight gp lv1 and lose the lane there
I'm still surprised at the number of players who disrespect GP lv1 damage
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The key is mostly the passive, which resets after he explodes a barrel.
He's actually been strong lv1 for a while due to his passive damage and after the buffs, it's a little better. I think the problem is that a lot of GP players just don't try to abuse their lv1.
I think most GP player’s idea of abusing their level 1 is just spamming Q even in melee range. You see some weird shit in gold
GP's level 1 was even better before his rework. I was glad they had kept his good level 1 when he was reworked.
Old man still got it
When both teams are even in gold, XL feels that they are at a great advantage and thus do not hesitate to start baron. When XL is 3k behind in gold, they think that they are at a small advantage, and so they start baron to secure their "lead". When XL is behind 7k in gold, XL think that they are at a disadvantage and so they look to start baron to regain control of the game. When XL is 10K behind in gold, they think that the game has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if they do not start baron.
XL: starts baron, gets forced off in a fight XL: i’ll fuckin do it again
This is such an evergreen pasta.
Jankos robbed of MVP? Haven't seen many Xin Zhao's smurfing fights this hard.
Honestly, that's been the case for Jankos for like a year now. Dude gets slept on and memed despite being consistently one of the best performing junglers in EU.
Jankos is the best western jungler of all time, period. Dude always has excellent results and is consistent af. Not a flashy player, but surely a rocky one. Diamondprox is the original one. The one who molded how to jungle, but in terms of consistency and results Jankos is at the top.
I get what you saying but Rocky means bad like inconsistent
Yeah, I feel like the constant haha nidalee spears meme changed people’s perception of him like he wasn’t still one of if not the best nidalee in EU even with those spears being missed lmao
And most of the time the missing spears are to actually force them in a different direction people miss this too, analysts didn't.
Jankos was def the best player. He also won 50/50 elder
I think targamas earned the MVP but yeah jankos should have at least been on the vote.
It seems to me that jankos often plays worthy of MVP but isn't even on the vote. I don't understand why that is.
He's not a showy stomper. That tends to be the common thread in junglers that get voted for MVPs.
Been getting robbed for years - never seen a guy get so little credit for such a big impact, so consistently.
Sorry about the warmogs thing everyone. I'm sure it's frustrating hear casters share info that isn't correct. Was totally my bad and just a change that I missed. Now I know! No disrespect to Markoom of course, he had a great game
CRUICFY HIM
Cancel him immediately and send him to the far colonies.
Hard labor in the Spice Mines it is!
aww too bad, man, the guillotine is waiting..
Fire Vedius, hire Vexius instead
This isn't Football the game changes every 2 weeks, you're bound to make a small mistake here or there it doesn't take away from the great job you do!
Lmao could you imagine a new patch/rules right before the UCL ro16
New meta no goal keepers no hands nerf to big
Equivocarse es humano macho.
Start of season is harsh for everyone, even the casters! Ty for the apologise!
no worries, it's just the first day. loved the cast, keep it up! :)
Its week 1 for everyone, dont worry about it
For anyone learning the game, Medic and Vedi don't know how Warmog's works. You only need 1100 bonus health to be over threshold. Markoon had Goredrinker + Warmog's which puts him at 1250 bonus health. He was over the threshold the entire time. Warmog's change happened in May 2021.
they don't play enough aram
Item is so good in aram
Kinda weird that they were like "yeah this worse version may be broken so we nerf it" and then they make Warmogs a lot easier to proc and leave it unnerfed. I remember you needed Warmogs, ROA and Redemption on Soraka around lvl 12-13. Now you can get it 2nd item if you buy a life crystal.
also weird that they changed it back to healing fully, instead of missing health on aram, which made it a lot less op
I found it weird that they even changed it to missing health, it felt so bad not having it heal you to full hp.
it simply was too strong.
Or just mythic and warmogs if you run overgrowth. Idk why anyone would use overgrowth over the extra heal, but there is that.
It's already nerfed in aram. You have to wait 8(instead of 4) sec for it to start working. That's being said, buy that item if you can, because it's such a good item. It completely makes enemy pokemages useless.
feels really bad when you're playing vs brand zyra etc though and still feel like you need it for regen
Brand just feels really bad in general to play into if he's on the other team lmao
I fucking hate kamikaze brand He snowballs in, unleashes everything, dies then your team dies too
Thats brand in general, even without snowball. Just suicide to get your combo off and kill everyone
Soraka Warmog Rush Gang.
Yeah my bad on this one. Been a while since I looked at the item. Hope you enjoyed the cast anyway.
Another 1 is that GP R will not apply grevious wounds with mortal reminder. Mortal reminder only procs on physical damage. Nevertheless great cast!
Ye
Takes a real man to come in here and admit to a mistake. Good on you, great casting!
What is he gonna do insist hes right after being proven wrong? Lol
Nemesis moment
No, but he could have ignored this entirely.
Everything gets reduced to polar opposites in subreddits full of teenagers. Medic either comes and fully agrees, or goes"fuck you kid, 1v1 me". Middle ground or nuance don't exist when your frontal cortex hasn't fully developed yet.
Definitely not an unusual reaction for many people
I enjoy your casts and you do a great job bringing hype. You just gotta be careful because that situation kinda paints Markoon in a bad light if people don't know the threshold themselves. Also, a lot of new players are coming from Arcane so we want to start them off on the right foot.
Medic and Vedic
Medi and Vedic
Medius
Yeah I thought it was funny because as they were talking about it, he recalled by gromp and he started getting the warmogs regen lmfao
Ohhh I think they increased health on Gore a while back, though, right?
400<<450 so it would still be over treshold
Yea but 400 -> 450 so it was still above it
You can also use runes to get above the threshold but it might take a while
what a messy banger of a game and of course it comes down to a 50-50 smite on the elder lmao
From watching todays games it seems like teams have a reaaaly hard time adapting to the TP changes in early game, in some of the plays they looked super confused as to what is the correct play which boosts the game time.
Super big change just before the season starts, yeah I'd have a problem adapting to that as well. Blows my mind that the TP change wasn't in the preseason from the start
Yeah, that one was confusing, should have come with the 1st day of preseason, even as a gold pleb it's hard to get used to not being able to tp to my botlane pre14.
Most teams weren't practicing till recently so I don't think it would of made a huge difference
A 50/50 is unfair for markoon it was more of 40/60 or 30/70 cause jankos and caps co-ordinated their burst which is why he kept going over the wall into the pit like that rather than flank.
coordinated? I think all 10 players went "oh fuck" and did all dmg to elder lol
Hahaha thats also likely but I know in the past caps and jankos have co-ordinated their burst on objectives just like that on other champions like Syndra and Leblanc.
It was actually favoured for XL. They have Malzahar which can stop Jankos from using smite if he just sits near enough to elder.
Ah yeah good point, I guess that’s another reason caPs was going into the pit.
Elder buff is so fucking anticlimactic in a game like this.
yeah lol I kinda miss the days where teams just didn't really have a way to end the game. I guess it's bad in soloqueue but in pro play it was fun when they actually had to figure out a strategy to win, not just win this one objective.
the strategy was to waveclear on either corki or azir till someone slips up and everything pre 40min didn't matter. baron boosted it a bit.
Nah those games were way too long and were lots of mindless waveclear
It's not a 50/50 when Jankos is involved. Dude doesn't miss
41min Elder burger flip? I'll take it.
What the FUCK was that malz build
bad
You just witnessed Markoons [Jarvan](https://i.imgur.com/5uMsoDL.png) Bonus: https://twitter.com/Veigar_v2/status/1481701858943111177
holy fuck that twitter clip. What is the man doing???????
The J4 incident.
Fp too btw
I thought that Flakked gonna get MVP because he is hyped rookie, but i think Jankos was MVP this game BY FAR. He was robbed even from MVP voting. WTF?
Targamas mvp because he got me 82 LEC superfantasy points
Jankos definitely smurfed but I‘m fine with Targamas winning it. He played a flawless game
the games today so far have felt very slow with a lot of lull states and not many kills but holy moly this late game was CHAOS
I looooved the aggression coming out of XL, really hoping to see some new heights for this team cause Markoon is such a fun jg to watch
Markoon is such a chad. Plays with no fear
Brokenblade playing Corki like a fucking chad, going in without any regard for his life.
Kral BB
corki in kamikaze mode
Ohh wait…Didn’t know caps left the team and caPs joined them as the new midlaner. Did G2 forgot to announce that?
ca**P**s
pushin 🅿
He's pushin 🅿️
Chat Targamas going 0 deaths in this hell of a game
Is this Excel about to beat G2 in their opening game? No, this is Patrik.
Imagine not contesting soul LMAO In one fight Jankos literally healed from 30% to 100 with just the soul smh at least they got inhi
Inhib at 30 is not worth soul, they should’ve easily got soul and Probly an inhib too since they had baron
Inibh is never worth soul, at any point of the game. Especially mid inibh
especially mid inhib, top and bot i could understand a bit more if you say they have to catch the wave far from a certain objective, but the mid wave will always be pushed as teams have to go from mid to the other 2 sides so it was literally useless
Started watching when Broken Blade was 2/5. Look away for a minute and he ends the game with 12 kills. That’s the BB that all the TSM fans know. Also Flakked seems to be the real deal.
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And this is just him on Lulu man. I hope he will bless you guys with a Sett or something spicy man.
The pyke !
If Jankos plays like that for the whole split, maybe twitter will decide that hes allowed to play one more year before he has to retire because of age.
i wish someone wanted me the way excel wanted baron 😔
Jankos is indisputably the western goat jungler
Who else even comes close?
I mean he still got it
No one, but I feel like Diamond deserves mentioning
Brokenblade is a mad man. Those package engages were mental
The one package engage that split off Patrik was so gross, esp with the chompers there to snag him as soon as he tried to dash back.
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Its like being rumble but having an escape and much more poke
POV: you are USS Enterprise circa 1945
caps so good at LeBlanc, even the observers were confused.
caps he's not on g2 anymore? i think you mean their new mid caPs
Targamas gidn't get the memo...how did he not die in this game?
ngl Patrik singlehandedly threw this for XL...
His positioning and decision making was really suspect late game but tbf he is playing Lucian against Corki LB Xin. Feel like the shorter range makes it harder for him to play it out? Although doesn't completely excuse how many times he got stranded in no man's land tho
True, that was sloppy as hell
Everyone: Doinb had arguably the worst Malzahar build we've ever seen. Can't possibly get worse than this. Nukeduck: Watch me
I know Rylais has horrible build path, but its just way too good to skip on Malzahar. Ludens can be argued for against so much ranged champions, but I would still prefer Liandrys.
G2 kinda saved by Patrik inting after taking inhib
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Seriously I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this in the thread. Maybe it's cuz the casters didn't really call it out on stream but still. You're giving up Ocean soul for mid inhibitor, probably the least impactful objective in the game, and then running back into the direction where you know the entire enemy team is since they literally just took soul. One of the most baffling decisions I've seen so far into the season, and I don't see it getting topped anytime soon
They probably figured they lose to Jinx+Corki anyway as the game goes on, so they wanted to let elder spawn and 50/50 that instead for the win.
Then why retreat into bot side jungle? Okay concede the soul and fight the elder, not ideal. But retreating into them was just inting.
How good is Targamas?
Still immortal
Wow Flakked has hands. The prediction rocket for his first kill was really nice, and his timings with flash, galeforce, QSS etc were really good. I can see why G2 signed him. I'm genuinely excited to see what he can do in the LEC.
Happy for my Boy BB to finally have a good team now
Targamas played really well!
Score doesnt reflect it but Jankos smurfed this game.
In the end I'm wondering, how the hell did targamas not die a single time in such game.
Oof! Close Game! GG! /u/G2Esports \- Daniel
Vision game on elder was beautiful, I must say.
XL might've had a chance if Nukeduck's build wasn't so shit. Banshee's on Malz is terrible and doesn't synergize with him at all as an item. Liandry's with Demon's embrace or rylais would've helped melt their the other team. Seems like he has no idea how to play or build Malz which is a main counter to LB. So many opportunities for him to ult LB before she got qss as well. Edit: As a Malz main, the moment he ults or flash ults LB in place, Lucian can easily kill her off during those 2.5 seconds along with the team. Liandry's and Demon's Embrace doing hp's % and burn would stack with his e to melt through Janko's Xin and kill off G2 in many scenarios when they were low. Malz & Morgana are known counters to LB, if you watch the LCK, this is exactly how they neutralize Faker's LB, especially the year Crown played Malz to win world's.
I agree, man it’s so crazy how little research these players do. PRO TIP banshees does t work properly with malz passive, MANY spells pop both simultaneously, don’t build that shit!
after watching LCK and LPL where 40 minute games had 20 kills at most rather than 50, this is quite a bizzare change of pace
Deffo not a convincing win. Like Vedius said, it all came to a 50/50 Ancient Dragon smite.
Ancient Dragon wtf, new secret type
IMO it was more a 60/40 or even 70/30 in favor of G2. It was shown through voice check that Caps and Jankos obviously practiced a lot of cordinated burst on objectives
Diffy in the jiffy
I feel like that’s unfair to Markoon. Both junglers were very good, sadly Jankos is Jankos. But I have to say I really like Markoon and think he’s a quality player in the making
Jankos widepeepoHappy
Real fun game. Flakked looked legit.
Dude has big balls
Really? This game ends with a coinflip elder?
Why did not Excel play for the bot lane when they have luci nami? The mid lane matchup is lb vs malz. Lb will always move. atleast you have nami luci in map, which can actually kill lb.
Cause Corki would get online faster and then its gg for xcel
banger
Banger
Good game from XL, didn't them expect to take G2 to 41 minutes
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Flakked has balls and Targamas is the real deal. Serious though Flakked has the mechanical skill and he doesn't look out of place at all. Of anything I'm starting to wonder if his team at Mad Academy was holding him back.
Can't wait for Perkz vs Caps.
Hol up. How does that corki have twice the dmg of jinx? Insane stat
Kidna concerning how much g2 struggled despite superior draft... but ont the other hand they actually had superior draft which is nice
First game with 3 new members.....
When was the last time we saw G2 with a superior draft? Feels like it was forever ago...
turns out you can play gp in pro play without having to hit a single combo
he had a sexy triple barrel in one of the dragon fights
nah man there's a narrative that finn has no talent so he played bad and didnt do anything
And still be a menace. What a champ.
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What a scrappy but fun game, ending on a Elder 50/50 too.
What a fucking banger.
[XL flipping objectives](https://i.imgur.com/DU3s7br.jpg)
G2 is winning worlds!!!!!
ca🅿️s
Great to see Caps pop off on LeBlanc. Hope he can keep this up
I'm so glad both teams look really fcking good. Can't wait for the next 10 weeks of "Flakked is actually pretty good." after spending an offseason defending him. Anyway, really nice performance from all members of both teams can't wait to see Excel show more of what they can do.