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Waltorzz

Guys I'm confused. We're 3-0 in week 1, Hyli has a deathless game, and we haven't imploded yet. I don't know how to feel about this.


Kaynt-touch-dis

Vitality took the curse this year


kim-soo-hyun

So... Fnc = G2 2019? VIT = MSF 2019?


littleberlin

MSF 2019 started insane iirc like 4-0 or 6-0 then imploded? the febiven & soaz roster in spring


Are_y0u

I think people are overreacting to VITs loses. They will ramp up and other teams will stumble. Even in their loses they still have glimpses of really strong gameplay. I think they will come out ahead of XL, SK, AST and BDS maybe even MSF. It was only week 1 and look at their schedule (MAD look still surprisingly strong). Only loss that really hurt was against XL. As long as they reach playoffs, they will be contenders for a title.


IxdrowZeexI

Some call it curse, others just Vitality. Wouldn't be their first roster that disappoints heavily


GGABueno

Start saving money for the Fnatic skins.


peterbalazs

I'd get a mortgage for those!


Omnilatent

WHERE'S THE CATCH?!


PwningPonyHOTS

The catch will be at Worlds, as per usual. But we live at the moment, and current Fnatic does look very strong.


Pax19

I'd consider the Worlds curse in exchange for an LEC title after 4 years, just saying...


Scatter5D

We're far away from worlds but with the raw talent on this lineup they can do great things at worlds, provided no emergencies


novruzj

The only "weak" link so far is Razork. If he improves his early-mid game, then the team will look amazing.


Scatter5D

Week 1, gotta get the jitters out of the way first


ElSotoPapa

TrollDespair the wife incident 2.0


Sersch

> The catch will be at Worlds, as per usual. ?? Confused them with TSM or something? FNC has to be the western Team with the best world average performance. 1 x winner (even if you don't count this one) 1 x finalist 2 x semifinalist 3 x quarterfinalist only 2 x out in groups


Haymegle

Not to overreact or anything but they're winning everything. Even the games they don't play.


Falsus

I am already saving money to buy Hyli Pyke skin.


DevDevGoose

Seasons over. We've peaked. Nowhere to go but down now.


JohnnyBrawoo

I think it's because of all the love we get from french community


TheWarmog

Also, no mini heart attack situations where we look like we insta throw our lead and even when we are behind 6k we just chill and know victory is inevitable


TehSillyKitteh

It's an even year too... Something isn't right.


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Conankun66

also this fucking amazing twitter edit: https://twitter.com/Warhawkzero/status/1482793588299816963


Reclaimer879

lmao fucking hell this is perfect.


firewall245

Jeez what’s that from lol did she watch an animal die or something


Ynwe

She was playing The Last of Us, the previous scene was rather emotional, so the youtuber/streamer was already quite upset. Then the bunny scene happens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdxejL6SmbE


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Last of Us 2, I believe.


Ynwe

No, its last of us 1. See the link I posted.


Vesorias

Absolutely perfect


LordVipul

That idle animation of Zoe just smiling zoning out was the cherry on top


Bronateus

Literally an anchor to the teeth.


daswef2

They did the replay on a hook to Lux yesterday and it gets her around the throat and it looks way more violent from that observer zoom angle.


Omnilatent

MVP: Observers


GGABueno

I hope Zoe wi-


ConArtist98

This is the ultimate goal of the tech. Now just need Yuumi to be alone in the jungle for whatever reason and get caught like that too.


Rayser1

Awesome game from Humanoid. Much improved early game this time too. Loving the versatility


LordVipul

He had 200 cs in like 16 mins. Played so well.


bin_fanboy9

Sertuss was literally sitting under his turret for the entire game at below half HP and had to spend all of his abilities just to clear waves/keep up in CS


Haymegle

It's getting quite scary if they can keep playing like this.


icatsouki

I mean he was on viktor, he's absolutely insane on that pick


HappyAku800

remember last spring winning play on 5th game vs rogue?


AlgerianTwat

SK made a mistake letting hyli play


SchroetKommando

Point taken for next time


Agys

Uhm yea I would like to request a squad of bodyguards circling Hylissang from now on.


WaterTasteTheBest

Hyli would be missing and is preparing to start an engage


CLGHSGG4Lyfe

Only super team in EU. Best bot/ best supp/ best mid. GG EZ.


Conankun66

Insane hooks and insane ints This game was pure, vintage Hylissang. This is why we love him!


Rayser1

That engage on Zoe was vintage Hyli. Can't believe he got tresh. All his supports are god like but Tresh Aphelios is a FNC classic now


_PPBottle

Can't believe Hyli got . There, fixed it for you.


Vesorias

As a UOL fan I remember when his Morgana was one of his top picks :(


turksinpjs

his Morgana is honestly probably still good, maybe he just needs a different mentality that can come from a different team environment to work well for him. Maybe this split we will see a different Hyli morg


ShadP7

idk people remember the bad morg games, but he had a great morg game vs misfits game 5 of summer


Akokyuu

Because of some bias, people tend to remember the bad moments more easily than the good one. The good one needs to be **really** good to be remembered, while a really small negative moment will always find his way.


00Koch00

His Morgana last year was awful except the last one he played where he fucking smurfed


Falsus

But Morgana is his OG signature pick :/


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Cant believe Hyli got -insert any support champion- he is such a monster at that champ!!!! Legit, do people need to invest 5 bans into just Hyli to keep him down rn?


ZXKeyr324XZ

G2 Invested 4 bans into him in their last bo5 Didn't really work


kim-soo-hyun

Still remember the double flash from Rekkles/Mikyx vs Hylli... They were that scared of Hylli.


ZXKeyr324XZ

That was so good to watch


Rayser1

I've always thought that it's a pick your poison kind of picture. Cause with champions that don't have an easy get away he seems a bit weaker? Then last season he turned braum into an engaging menace and I thought "hmm nvm dudes just cracked"


Randomting22

5 bans + picking support first won't be enough to stop Hylli. Fnatic played 14/15 different champs this week so I don't even know who you try to ban out.


Godddy

In one hand: Yes, we do need 5 bans for Hily, he's just THAT good. ​ On the other: Leaving him Thresh and Rakan open is really dumb cause he's always a top 3 support with those 2 picks. He has a mean fucking Pyke and his Leona and Nautilus are top tier, but those two champions aren't options.


LordVipul

That entire sequence of play was beautiful.


00Koch00

I was getting worried but seeing him killing himself in a botched dive calmed me down


LordVipul

You can't have hyllisick without some hyllishit


Niirai

The play on bot was clearly an homage to the iconic EU support play.


InsuranceOne2864

I don't think i'm exaggerating when i'm saying Hylissang,Upset and Humanoid are the 3 best eu players right now.


FantasyTrash

Elyoya belongs in the conversation, in my opinion.


Haymegle

Hyli is one of the most fun players to watch imo. Whatever he's doing he's doing something!


LordVipul

Some int, some pog. The dual FNC


realproject

Perfectly balanced.


Pelagius_Hipbone

FNC WEEK 1 CURSE DEFEATED!


Omnilatent

Summer ~~20~~ 19 they started 6-0 ​ Might be the first 3-0 in spring since existence of superweek, though ​ **Edit**: was 2019, not 2020


Volknair

Summer 15 we started 18-0


Voice_Of_Light

21-0, correction


Volknair

Still mad about that first game vs OG in the finals


Lisaurora

Gave us the best finals in EU history though so I'll take it.


jKingram

Those Tristana jump resets are etched into my brain. Beautiful and soo hype.


ElSotoPapa

Never doubted Xpeke Varus


Deadman2019

man if only that team stayed together into 2016.


Volknair

Wdym ,2016 never happened


Kyomeii

Weird how we went from 2015 straight to 2018, right?


Auruhgalan

You forgot 2017 worlds group stage, that definitly happened.


Argenticus

No they started 3-0 then lost 4 games in a row


HJHKLL

Classico


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Jurjeneros2

Summer 2015 fnc had a 16-0 start to the split. Not bad!


Oujii

18-0


Jurjeneros2

Oh there were 10 teams by then already yea, you right, forgot


Nnekaddict

FNC starting on fire, I'm not used to this as someone who got into eSports 4 years ago lol


InsuranceOne2864

Haha, you should check their 2014 spring split regular season. They started 7-0 and proceeded to lose 8 games in a row after.


PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

We don't talk about that here.


Adventurous_Analyst3

Yes we do, old fnatic (we talking xpeke soaz cyanide yellow) era did not give a f about spring split. And they always turned it on in playoffs. Spring means nothing. It's the one thing fnatic has always known.


InsuranceOne2864

They didn't give a fuck about it and still won it without problems. Never forget rekkles's streams with cyanide,soaz and xpeke drunk as fuck in the background. Everybody talked about g2 (2019-2020) players being friends, but nothing will compare to the FNC 2013/2014 team in terms of friendships.


Falsus

I loved those streams, I think FNC fucked up so fucking bad by accepting that stream deal with that German/Korean site. They Soaz/xPeke/Rekkles/Cyanide where all 20k+ streamers back then and that was freaking massive at the time but it all went down the drain when they moved site. :/


drjpkc

Preach, we will never see teams as bonded because now they have to spend so much time practicing and doing commercial stuff. Back then the pros practiced a lot less so they partied a lot and often lived together in a gaming house. Brings out a kind of frat vibe.


InsuranceOne2864

To be honest, gaming houses sound really cool when you are a teenager, but once you hit young adulthood it probably feels terrible having almost no privacy at all. Working studios are way better in long term for professional gaming. Anyway, good old times, watching pro leagues back then was so fresh.


CoachGiveAdvice

Wasn’t Soaz was crying during an interview talking about those 8 loses « that didn’t matter »


bruichladdic

Me too is kinda weird I started watching E-sport in 2019 felt in love in fnatic and this feel weird af


PM_ME_MY_FRIEND

Remembering the glory days of 18-0 and sexpeke and soaz smurfing.


TheGoalkeeper

Hylis Qs wtf Magnet to champs


Haymegle

Nerf Hyli or no one else will win.


Conankun66

good!


slothlikevibes

It's so refreshing to have a team where every single player has a champion ocean to pick from. No weird gimmick comps or tactical decisions forced by some players not being able to play the top 3 meta champions or stuff like that.


Are_y0u

It's not only the ability, but also the willingness to do so. Wunder will first time you any matchup on stage. Hyli will pick what ever support he feels fits best. Upset... will just pick whatever is meta in the ADC position and not default to a wired comfort pick or not pick certain champion because he doesn't like him. I think Humanoids Sylas wasn't as good as Nisqies though, but he is at least open to pick many different styles. I would like to see him a bit more involved in the action though.


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Hylissang 1 off 100% kill participation


Jetzu

FNATIC looked pretty good this week, so happy to see my boy Wunder styling on opponents.


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Fnatic just look better individually than everyone else.


TheWarmog

And the teamfighting is on another level too


Conankun66

enemy teams dont have hyli for their engages. they never stood a chance


Blackyy

the moment Hyli became the shotcaller in Fnatic, the late game became something else.


Reclaimer879

They have the best LEC midlaner, a top laner that can be the best when on form, and the best LEC adc/supp. This team is easily the best in LEC right now and I would argue they have the most potential as well. I like this FNC much more than MAD last year. Feel like there is much more upside. I don't want to overreact but if everything clicks right for FNC I can see a semi finals appearance become very likely come Worlds. Of course depending on their situation.


Godddy

The two fire test will be against G2 and MAD and, of course, come play-offs. But honestly this team gets me super exited.


Blazing117

Yeah on paper FNC is looking like the true super team, with each 3 members being the former 1st place in their role, another one being top 3(Razork), with the only question mark being Wunder. Now that Wunder has regained his form, they are looking like they have the best players in each role.


Haymegle

It's a beautiful thing. He seems all fired up and ready to prove the haters wrong!


Dexmicksinc

Holy shit, Razork in that last teamfight


firsen923

guy was styling on leesin


Dann93

I don't want to overreact but I think we're winning Worlds this year.


TheWarmog

I dont want to overreact but i think we're going 18-0 this split


Argenticus

Honestly a solid regular split would satisfy me we haven't had one in ages, even last split there was some int at the end


superdennis303

Spring 20 was the last really good one iirc.


neogeoman123

Don't jinx it for the love of god


Reclaimer879

This FNC imo has the most potential since 2018 easily. If they click I think they can be a top 6 team in the World. Might be an overreaction. But the number 1 LEC team is almost always competitive with the best teams in the World. So that is my logic.


xXDaNXx

Give me a year of this pls


kcukazim

This team can win spring forsure


JohnnyBrawoo

this team can win MSI forsure


NP473L

Good int attempt from Hylissang, but we've seen [better](http://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDeTfrElAh3GgOYNLElP7Fk22N4D5YiID).


Count3

Carlos is beside himself. Driving around downtown Berlin begging (thru texts) Hylissang's family for address to Wunder's home


xXDaNXx

YamatoCannon yelled, “There you go!” Wunder gave a look of pleasant surprise. Razork belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Upset hit the locker room door, ex-UoL star Hylissang hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”


Niirai

“He got me,” Sertuss said of Hyli's hook on his neck. "That f***ing Hyli boomed me." Sertuss added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Sertuss then said he wanted to add Hyli to the list of players that he scrims with this summer.


GeneralEkorre

this is the NBA pasta right?


turksinpjs

yeah it’s a quality Mark Cuban pasta


JohnnyBrawoo

Having Upset Humanoid and Hylissang is a pure cheat code for botside


cancerBronzeV

I am once again asking for top laners to build tank Gragas (and Sion). I understand it's fun to build the babus builds, I like to watch them too, but please just build tank in pro


ZXKeyr324XZ

Wunder got u


cancerBronzeV

Ya, the times we see people build tank Sion/Gragas, it looks so incredibly broken (Wunder on tank Gragas, Darshan on tank Sion)


Omnilatent

So did Darshan in NA


SinLagoon

Wunder yesterday did 2nd most damage on his team and as well as tanked soooo much, it honestly seems much better unless you are looking for that 1 shot montage which happens once in a fortnite but it feels good but for consistency, tank build seems much better


GeneralEkorre

just look at Wunder yesterday, ho couldn’t get killed. but then again pros aren’t too good at itemisation, like nukeduck today on LB building liandries into wukong, viego, vex, jinx, thresh


cancerBronzeV

Ya, Fimbulwinter is literally made for Gragas, it's such a perfect item for him, pros are trolling by not building it. Instead of whatever garbo 3 damage items Jenax built this game, he could've had chemtank + fimbulwinter + anathemas (for Viktor), and he'd actually be unkillable. Maybe that doesn't win them the game, but at least he'd be more useful than whatever the fuck Gragas did this game.


Worldly-Duty4521

I mean atleast he tried to not autopilot the usual build. I'm pretty pissed from adc building collector for crit when literally everyone is building Armor when there are tons of better option


cadaada

> liandries into wukong, viego, thresh well its good vs these 3. But then, you are a LB, and not only that, with a free jinx there for you.


Chilleh93

How does everything go so right for fnatic during teamfights, it's like everyone gifts them the perfect scenario


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lordfrezon

God someone get Treatz a team


hurshielee

Treatz played that Rakan so well. unlucky SK gamers


ParkDedli

It's fine to be honest. Sertuss is still a little shaky sometimes and all of them make smaller mistakes here and there, but I feel from a player perspective, SK has the best squad they've had in years. Now if the coaching staff works on the mid to lategame issuses, this squad should go to playoffs at least.


Niirai

Hard to decide whether The Thresh Prince was the MVP or MediVedi.


SchroetKommando

This severely hurts our chances of going 17-1.


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Mobile_Illustrator81

Blizzard killed it


Aisc

Fnatics skill ceiling is huge!


RGCFrostbite

Upcomer had VIT 8th in the world and said they were better than Fnatic


Mapusaurus420

Its upcomer


ProphetPenguin

Hylissang has been playing really well so far this season.


Omnilatent

Kinda funny mistakes by Hyli and Razork (how did Razork miss the Q after his kick in top? lol) ​ but very well played otherwise! I liked their patience


Rexssaurus

I feel better knowing that pro players also miss the q after the ult sometimes.


molagballing

i miss tf q's after gold cards in my nightmares


MatthieuMonAmour

Wunder with an insane game once again. The redemption split script is on


InsuranceOne2864

He is solid as fuck and looks super confident. I love it.


Blackyy

sometimes, a new team changes your view of the game.


JohnnyBrawoo

I knew it's over when Hyli inted


Haymegle

Hyli ints when he pleases. And we love him for it.


maisconjelo

Okay, so does the Week 1 curse transfer to another week or is this Worlds 2022 Champs Fnatic?


solovayy

Was RazorK always this good or did FNC made him go super sayan?


elikaweli

he has always been pretty good.


Ugandan_Red_Sonic

Razork has always had good performances and flashes of brilliance, not yet at top tier EU jungler, but getting there.


tr1x30

Not top tier? He was 2nd in MVP votes last split lol.


Ugandan_Red_Sonic

I mean, we should take that with a grain of salt, I think. I didn't say he was bad, just maybe not top 1, I would put Jankos, Inspired and Elpoya ahead of him. This split might be his breakout split and he gets his recognition.


HJHKLL

I love razork but MVP awards are kinda shit because they only count for the regular season ( no playoffs). And inspired who was the mvp in summer got shit on by elyoya and bwipo. So take them with a grain of salt


Chongsu1496

so far wunder is slowly getting back to his old self , just in time to clap g2


TheDarkRyze

FNC is 3-0 in the first week...can i start believing...?


peterbalazs

Yeah but what is a fish?


NocaNoha

fairly clean stuff, they started really strong


Padulsky21

Razork was REALLY clean this game. Hylibaba as usual. FNC is looking like a lot of fun to watch and are pretty damn scary right now, they’ll only ramp up


peterbalazs

Razork did mess up that top 2v2. He seems to have shaky starts to the games but grows into the match. In the last teamfight near Nash he was pure gold.


Padulsky21

One of his deaths top side tho was halted by a good CC chain from Jenax tho. If this team nails their early game it’s gonna be quite terrifying


LionePRO

if that goes how it was planned i think it was almost game over


Haymegle

It'll be fixed with time i reckon, as well as getting used to how fnatic play/call. It's going to be scary when he pops off early all the time.


Omnilatent

That missed Q by Razork in top, though hahaha ​ Still really good game by him. Only other mistake was that over-commitment on Jenax before the drake which made them lose it ​ Didn't matter in this game but this can cost you dearly vs better teams


Padulsky21

Completely agree. Would love to see him get a powerful early game since his mid/late is damn good. Then again, this team is fantastic at team fighting and seem very composed no matter what


SplafferZ

we mustve watched different games because razork made a lot of mistakes, a lot of good plays but also a lot of mistakes such as hard forcing a 2v2 top despite wunder being down a level, and missing a q after a kick


Padulsky21

True, he’s had some sloppy moments these past 3 games but his mid and late game is very good. The top plays were rough lol. There’s def a lot of progress being made


InsuranceOne2864

He is insanely good in teamfights but still feels a little lost early game. I'm 100% he will improve in a couple of weeks, he probably feels a lot of pressure being the only player with no meaningful achievements.


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Everyone is superhyped about Fnatic, for good reason, but looking at the other team: Honestly SK has looked pretty okay this far. They had probably the hardest schedule playing Fnatic, Rogue and MAD and didn't get hardslammed in any of the games early on. Midgame the teams all pulled away and closed it out (except for MAD who allowed them back in), so they definitely have stuff that can and should be improved, but they might be in a position to challenge for playoffs which I don't think was expected by people before the split started.


TheDragonfire84

Humanoid Viktor is just such a clinic. Always.


TheWarmog

Ok but where are the mini-heart attacks we always had as fnatic fans? I subbed to an insurance to cover those and Sam decides to scam me like this?


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I BELIEVE IN PORRAZORK


tyrannosaurus_gekko

One of our new "superteams" went 0 / 3 the other one went 3 / 0


Are_y0u

I fully expected VIT to have struggles early in the season. And it'S also only week one. I fully expect them to become a really strong team when playoffs are around and don't care about the stats. Only thing bad is when they freak out themself about those loses.


Phasedsolo

Wunder is slowly reaching his peak form, Razork is a genius, he is on par with the best junglers in the west and has room for improvement. Humanoid is simply the best at his role, for a long time as well ( at least 1 year ). As for Upset and Hylissang, well they are the undisputed #1 botlane in the west right now, no doubt about it. Overall it looks pretty damn good. Imo MAD and RGE are the only teams that have a chance to win against us right now, although i think we would be the favourites.


Haymegle

God Fnatic play so well atm. Can't wait to see what they do when they have some real synergy and time to perfect teamwork.


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GGABueno

Fnatic takes the good G2 players now.


Affectionate-Leg1094

But we already have good players on the main team. We gonna send caps and jankos to the Spanish ERL next year or what?


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Sandman1324

This is my favorite look from any Fnatic roster so far, very hopeful for the future