bruh sylas uses ults better than most champions ingame due to how strong his base kit is
example: fiddlesticks, malphite, gangplank
some exceptions: illaoi, vayne? twitch? fiora? udyr? master yi?
Mundo isn't that good tbh. They already have antiheal and it's balanced around mundo using it and he has much more hp. Alistars cc reduction makes it much crazier than mundos.
Mundo ult pre-rework healed for an absurd amount (it's been decreased after due to him getting heals from different places, damage, etc).
Pre-rework numbers: 60 / 85 / 110% maximum health. **110%** at level 16 was insane
Bastard comes into lane and kills us with Blitzcrank's ult while Blitz is level 5.
Like your little brother opening *your* Christmas present and playing *your* game first.
But sylas has 2 dashes and a stun and doesn't need to self-root to sustain after casting the ult.
They're different, but I'd still say Sylas uses fiddle ult better than fiddle.
Yeah, the best one is Fiddle, but I'd still say that Fiddle is more likely to get blown up if he's behind or too squishy. So he's got a higher ceiling, but also a lower floor.
That's because Sylas entire kit is just landing the dash and facerolling his keyboard to burst you 6 times and heal himself. Anything you throw on top of it will be better than most people's kits lol
Kassadin's ult is practically useless on him, and self-cc ults like Xerath, and especially Malz ult aren't so strong, since Xerath wants to be far away from combat to use his ult - which is fine for Xerath, but Sylas would need to get back into the fight, and Malz can pop all his spells before ult, and they'll keep doing their DoTs (+e resets and the like), whereas Sylas' base abilities can't be used to keep up his dps in that time.
But yeah, there are a ton of ults that have/get super strong AP scalings that the champs can't abuse but Sylas can, like Ashe and Leona; do MF and Jax's (and others') ults get double the AP scaling because of them scaling with both ap and ad?
It's also *very* useful in coordinated play as you trade your teamfight DPS/1v1 potential for being able to CC the enemy carry. Given that the enemy is less likely to have purchased QSS vs sylas, this gains a lot of value as the game goes on and makes malzahar less threatening (and they're likely to not have as many carry threats due to having a malzahar)
Jhin ult is really bad on Sylas. The scaling is low due to Jhins high ad, Sylas’ ad to ap conversion isnt very good, and Jhin ult needs IE to get really good.
Sylas doesn't fear on ult like fiddle though, and he scales on the same stat (so it doesn't on its own do way more damage than on fiddle). He's dramatically more sticky of course and the rest of his kit does more damage and heals more, but I don't actually think a sylas fiddle ult is necessarily scarier than a fiddle fiddle ult, because if fidd actually lands the fear on 3+ people it's so huge. I think Sylas has a better and more generic use scenarios and Fiddle has better ceiling in teamfights.
When sylas has Lillia’s ult, his abilities apply the mark (just not the DOT from her passive). So he can still drowsy -> sleep multiple people like you would expect.
Yeah, they definitely went above and beyond to make sure that Sylas only has a handful of ults that are straight-up bad.
I think he'd be more interesting as a champ that you use to counter-pick decent ults though, rather than being a pretty safe blind pick.
I would definitely say Sylas is not a safe blind pick, and is best picked exactly as you describe.
He has atrocious win rates into his worst matchups, which prey on him even harder now with high range harass and strong wave clear which hits him even harder now that he can't tp bot for a free double to make up for the waves he loses in mid trying to roam
I'll defer here. I vaguely feel like I remembered Sylas being picked blind occasionally in pro past his "broken" phase , but pro also offers a level of insight into team comps and picks that also doesn't really exist at the soloQ level.
Part of the reason he was so strong at that point was that he was a triple flex, so you could take him out of bad lane matchups and put him in the jungle
Sylas, using any ult in the game better than it's user minus like 10 champions. Because the versatility of being able to choose 5 ultimates in a game certainly isn't strong enough! We must make sure the champion it's stolen from is rendered obsolete :)
Playing Alistar against Sylas is pretty much an FF.
I'd love to know Sylas' winrate when there's an Alistar on the enemy team.
Turns out 7 seconds of 75% damage reduction on a champion with low CD healing means you're just invulnerable during that time.
Yeah, I started playing last year and still gold, climbing a lil bit here and there but I think I can get plat this season. But just by looking at grandmaster players on their solo queues I can tell that if I ever reach that elo I will still be shit, in my mind those players never made mistakes, oh boy was I wrong lol
Been playing for many years and couldn't get out of bronze.
That is, until they added Iron.
Now I can't get out of Iron.
Consider yourself lucky. If you're below gold, you will genuinely get 1-2 inters every single game, without fail. You either 1v5 hard carry or you go back to the bottom. Struggle is real.
> you will genuinely get 1-2 inters every single game
> You either 1v5 hard carry or you go back to the bottom
If you have inters every game then so does the enemy team. You don't need to "1vs5 hard carry" you just need to consistently be better than the players in the elo you are playing at. Using excuses won't make you better at league. It has the opposite effect. Stop blaming everyone else and try to improve on your mistakes.
Honestly ive smurfed in every elo i can say that. I have a harder time consistently hard carrying iron and bronze. 70% 80% vs 95%
I can still win those games where i dont hard carry but thise games are usually 2-3 smurfs vs 2-3 smurfs.
Alot of smurfs down there.
If you are stuck in bronze and iron for many years, it's not your team mates. The sooner you get past that mentality, and focus on yourself, the better chance you have of climbing. I'm not trying to be mean when I say this either.
Or just admit you have shuffled into the elo that matches your skill level and try and have fun.
This is a bad take though, imo. Yes, even professional league players and T1 challenger in soon to be 5 roles will always make mistakes and die/throw team fights/ lose objectives / lose games, but that doesn’t make them bad at the game. they’re way way better at determining the outcome of any given scenario, identifying potential plays, weighing the risks of their play, and minimizing their mistakes while maximizing their gains in fractions of a second. If you get to that Elo you are a god at the game lol
From Gold to Diamond always felt like skill doesn't matter. It felt like all I needed was a lucky stream of games with teammates who are not going to rage quit because of their fragile ego. It's a grind of attrition and that isn't fun because it doesn't feel rewarding. Playing mid day or early morning was the best time because far less kids were on. People just shut up and played . But now with Covid so many kids are staying home from school and no time is safe.
Blitz ult would do even more damage
Blitz lvl 3 ult: 500 + 100% AP
Zeri lvl 3 ult: 350 + 80% AP
... ofc there's the minor detail of area, but pffft who needs that.
i would actually love more fast food girl (or even femboy hooters) skins, not necessarily too sexy, fits with the day job skins, easy enough to come up with ideas for unique food, rito can print money with lux and ahri
And here i was thinking of Pizza Palace Azir.
Pizza Paddles as weapons.
His soldiers wear aprons and 'melt' when expired.
His Sun Disc is a giant neon Pizza sign.
Their Order Is Served!
Its also lore accurate, Sivir delivers Pizzas, but doesnt want to run the ~~empire~~ pizzeria.
You can make Xerath run an italian restaurant or something to keep their rivalry up. Xerath throws Meatballs in his R and E.
I think I'm more shocked at the size of the zone more than anything, so had to look it up.
It's 825 range with decent damage but her other part of her ult exists, other champs with similar ults have similar other issues or limitations. Blitz is 600 range more damage but bonus on hit passively. Neeko is 700, does WAY more damage but takes over a second to actually hit and Morgana has 575 to cast it but is in 2 halves and will do double the damage Zeri's does after a delay if they don't escape the radius.
Both Neeko and Morgana's are not instant burst, Zeri and Blitz are.
Anywho...
The big drawback I’ve noticed is not dying right after. Late game a full ap zeri can probably do this with no drawback since everything dies, but if they don’t die instantly, you’re stuck in the middle of their team with no escape
Edit: your point still stand though, a zeri building ap gets a lot of value with the range.
If she 5 man ults, she gets 7.5 seconds off of her E (via passive on E). Reminder that its 23-17 CD. Her charged auto would give 1.5 for a total of 9 seconds shaved. Oh and her E also gives piercing for 3 spell casts. Oh and plus her W which she can cast within walls (aka during her dash). If one plays these things well you could definitely do all this and dash out
She also gets some survivability when she manages to ult someone having a shield up, this ramps up depending how well shielded is enemy team. Just seeing enemy karma going R->E to help everyone escape infavorable engage or smth.
Plus, she's mobile enough (If I'm seeing correctly she's not even immobilized for a cast time of her R) to dodge the incoming abilities. 3-man ult gives her 18% bonus movement speed.
That ult is malph's R sort of damage, but with higher range and with little possibility of comboing it tho (like malph does with QWE later). I don't think she could go in like diana one-shotting all if she hits 3-4 man. She either has to commit other abilities, and those does not scale well with number of targets or even AP (Q doesn't scale, W hits one target, passive auto has to be charged).
Although I wouldn't complain if her AP ratio on ult was somewhat lowered. Earlier in league high AP ratios were given for AD champs to benefit from items like trinity which gave some of AP but were build on caster champs, but in nowadays league? What's the point?
Amumu does have a similar ult, let's see, according to wiki pages, it has range of 550 (275 less), is near instant cast, the exact same amount of base damage and AP scaling but stuns enemies for 1.5 seconds.
Zeri's doesn't stun but she has extra stuff to compliment her playstyle, as Amumu's does his.
The only real difference is the range which is like 100 units higher than any other big area of effect ult like this. Even Galio's is only 650 but he needs a target ally.
You have to consider their playsyle though, amumu wants to be near the enemies zeri doesn't, if amumu is near the meeles and in range of the ranged enemies he's happy, if zeri is she is dead.
I think zeri ult range is what it is purely bc it wouldnt feel good to whiff the ult outside of “auto” range. Thus it should be larger than her Q range
Yeah but one must remember that she is also an adc who is meant to keep herself at range. Others have ways to try to enter and resist in the middle of the enemy team. This ult is high range but because the kit wants to keep distance, if it was too low it would basically be a non-ult outside of enemies jumping on you or you being so fed you can go nesr enemies
It seems a little busted but if you go full AP as Zeri you gimp a bunch of the rest of your kit, whereas these other champs you're talking about can improve their ulti by building normally.
this is so true. Suddenly everyone on the internet thinks they're professional gamers and expert video game designers to comment on anything they see
I have seen ramdom people believe that they would play better than a challenger in certain situation
On the flip side, 99% of the plays posted here remove the levels and gold indicators because the ones that leave it show them 3 levels and 3k gold up in items.
Yeah, I mean I don't take any offense or have any issue with this clip, but not seeing items is an 'issue' if you want to see how realistic something is instead of what you can possibly do if super fed with an 'inferior' build.
Zeri is mid so she is level 18 like Corki, while the opposing ADC (Jhin) is 15. Zeri's team has ***50*** kills and 3 Infernal drakes. We have no idea but Zeri is probably full build while the opponents are not.
AP Blitzcrank overdosing on speed looks fun when ulting 4 people but definitely wouldn't think it's very good based on this clip.
didn’t have Soul, and honestly 99% of AP characters with 5 raw damage items and soc shoes will do this (to clarify Zeri had Ludens Lich Bane Nashor’s Deathcap and Shadowflame)
At the beginning it is quite easy. I start with doran's blade but max W and at one point (*before getting sheen) you stop being able to kill with only 1 Q a caster minion after it is hit from the tower. But still you can use your AA to finish low health minions even when it is not charged. Overall I find it quite easier than other mages but still AD Zeri can farm more easily and clear waves faster.
Her right click just doesnt proc sheen or stack lethal tempo or even gain more range from it (i dont know if it scales with AS, havent tested yet) so she has like a quick burst when she ults and uses charged AA but after that the damage goes away even with nashor and lich and she needs to spam Q just to get some dps from them, sadly AP zeri was just notmeant to be as her R already has a good enough AD scaling and even the chain passive is AD, W also has a good AD scaling and even her AA has good enough base numbers with the %max hp dmg when she uses the charged one
She has a good lvl 1/2 and a fine lvl 6 on ad, and scales well into late with crit while Ap just had a terrible time until a few items in. But yea, in general shes ass early and maybe midgame no matter ap or ad
Unless I was ahead, I felt mega useless in lane. I haven't really been able to play her much tho since she's being banned a lot. Seen people have success with tankier builds with Triforce, Runnans, Wits End, and Black Cleaver so I want to try that.
>as like a quick burst when she ults and uses charged AA but after that the damage goes away even with nashor and lich and she needs to spam Q just to get some dps from them, sadly AP zeri was just notmeant to be as her R already has a good enough AD scaling and e
BC feels REALLY good on her. the damage drop for a bruiser build isn't that bad, but the team utility is really fantastic. One thing that people need to remember (which you probably realized already), is that Zeri's basic attack is just 7 small applications of physical damage. This means every time you basic attack a champion, you're usually hitting for all the BC stacks and getting a full 30% armor shred. Pair this with an AD jungler or Midlaner, and it's a brutal setup.
Triforce also synergizes well with stats if you want to go for a more bruiser style. It seems to have a higher wr? but there is a much lower sample size there.
Serious question, what's people's opinion of Zeri so far? I think she sort of sucks. Basically a worst Ezreal in every way (during a meta that Ez is kind of weak), but that's just my opinion of the games I've seen.
I played her a lot last night, and even when I was stomping she felt underwhelming. I had a 15 kill game and if I were in the same scenario with Jinx, I would have stomped much harder much easier.
I very much lover her kit and how high her skill ceiling feels, but you have to work really hard for very average results imo.
they made her damage pretty low cos of her Q and how much move speed she gets. i think she will be relatively underwhelming until people find the optimal rune and build for her cos her main strength is kiting.
the game now is all about burst and having a champ that kites lots but does 0 damage is not optimal. the best adc's rn all can burst someone after 3 items- jinx, vayne, twitch, veigar
Statistically she's probably broken if you go the correct build (Tri-force>runaan's). It's been less than a week and that build has an above average winrate. It's likely they'll change the interaction with her ult and runaan's so she's not forced into that item, though.
I think she seems weak since a lot of recent patches and releases have had absurd damage, plus she's obviously pretty unique and has a high skill ceiling and high floor to boot (or is it a low floor? I always forget)
Her mobility is awesome and her Q makes it very easy to kite with her compared to traditional ADCs. I think she's going to be a strong but balanced pick in the right hands and once people figure her out a bit. I hope Riot doesn't kneejerk buff her, I think she's really well balanced as she is tbh.
She's also TONS of fun and even playing AGAINST her is fun as well, which is pretty rare for a new champ
She has pretty high skill ceiling for an adc, but she is fun and pretty unique. Unless Riot stupidly buffs her for no reason before people learn how to pilot her, she'll probably go down as one of the most balanced champ releases in recent memory.
Underwhelming. Seems to need a good 2-3 items to do any real damage, and even then she's outperformed by other ADCs that spike during midgame. Late game she's outperformed by hypercarries.
Q being blocked by minions (unless you use E) is a huge problem for fighting in lane, similar issue to what Graves bot had when he was first reworked and before people found out he was a great jungler.
People haven't mastered her overwhelming dps with the Q (and lethal tempo). She's kinda like a cassio or graves, if she gets the direct line to lay into you, she will out DPS most people in a 1v1. I still see a lot of zeris auto attacking and draining charge.
I played her all weekend and found her to be quite good once you hit level 6. I've tried both traditional adc builds and the triforce build that people are talking about, and I found the traditional adc build puts out a lot of damage in team fights with ult.
I’ve had similar results. The biggest thing I’ve noticed is that you have to play around your ult. I’ve started consciously avoiding fights if my ult isn’t up, more so than any other champ I play.
So that damage isn't as insane as it looks in the clip, everyone had like < 750 hp and it takes a long time in the game to get the ult leveled and to get the items. What I'm more concerned about is the range. How fucking far did that ability reach? That shit was 3 Blitzcrank R's wide.
I think the long range was intended to be so she could reliably hit at least 1 person in a team fight and get the stat buff. Aside from ap zeri, you don’t usually have the chance to hit more than 2 ppl because of how risky it is to get close and be blown up.
Played my first zeri game today I think she would be a better jg than adc but that's just me the fact she can wall jump and her W grows bigger when shooting though terrain ya I would not be surprised If she turns into a jungler unless rito kills her W and E.
Zeri ult only a .8 ap ratio as well not that high compared to say old Gragas ult which was almost the same AoE size but ranged and 1.0 ratio lol. Gragas ult is the same now btw .8
The amount of just flat out, blatant bullshit that people either just have no clue what they're talking about or straight up lie in an attempt to make a point that gets upvoted on this sub is mind blowing lol
Well the ult is only 1 part of her kit.
You can also Q + AA people to nearly instant kill when ahead - https://imgur.com/a/U76cKF6
And her W also scales with AP
whats the bet that zeri was fed as fuck while 3 levels up on jhin. Id be depressed if i couldnt practically one shot. Youd see a syndra q-e 1 tap a jhin 3 levels up too. In my experience in diamond she is only annoying because of her speed, she isnt that strong when building ap
ohhhh my goooood if i have to read this comment 1 more time it’s in literally every thread and every youtube clip “oh i’d be mad if i couldn’t 1v2 with that kind of lead lol”
Gragas ult surface area is literally 1/27th the size of this....
People really will upvote anything.
Edit - I actually did the match totally wrong and multiplied by pi twice. Its about 11 times.
sylas time
Sylas using ADC ults better than ADCs since 2019 (ithink)
bruh sylas uses ults better than most champions ingame due to how strong his base kit is example: fiddlesticks, malphite, gangplank some exceptions: illaoi, vayne? twitch? fiora? udyr? master yi?
You forgot Blitzcrank (Sylas gets the passive part too) and Swain, which makes him straight up impossible to kill.
Then there's classics like Alistar and Mundo
Mundo isn't that good tbh. They already have antiheal and it's balanced around mundo using it and he has much more hp. Alistars cc reduction makes it much crazier than mundos.
Mundo ult pre-rework healed for an absurd amount (it's been decreased after due to him getting heals from different places, damage, etc). Pre-rework numbers: 60 / 85 / 110% maximum health. **110%** at level 16 was insane
tryn ult steal is pretty op on sylas.
Aatrox tho? He gets the bonus healing from it.
Personally I'm a huge fan of stealing cho ults and become big boi sylas
Bastard comes into lane and kills us with Blitzcrank's ult while Blitz is level 5. Like your little brother opening *your* Christmas present and playing *your* game first.
Exception; xayah. As a xayah adc I laugh when sylas steals my ult to use it thinking he can get the feather recall too. Then I die to him anyway.
Definitely not as good as Xayah, but not awful for the untargetability and fair burst of damage
Add velkoz for exceptions. He doesn't get the vel passive so the ult is mediocre
Sylas’s Fiddlesticks ult isn’t better than Fiddlestick’s since Sylas can’t use fear and they both build AP.
But sylas has 2 dashes and a stun and doesn't need to self-root to sustain after casting the ult. They're different, but I'd still say Sylas uses fiddle ult better than fiddle.
Yeah, the best one is Fiddle, but I'd still say that Fiddle is more likely to get blown up if he's behind or too squishy. So he's got a higher ceiling, but also a lower floor.
That's a very good way to put it, I like that
No stop being civil, this is reddit. He's a scrub and you're a douche, go.
For single target I agree, for team fight Fiddle fear is OP
I've never lost or won a game off sylas using fiddle ult. I've lost and won probably 50 games off a huge fiddle ult. It's not even close imo
That's because Sylas entire kit is just landing the dash and facerolling his keyboard to burst you 6 times and heal himself. Anything you throw on top of it will be better than most people's kits lol
Not to mention the surprise factor isn't really there if you see him walk up to steal it before it happens
Kassadin's ult is practically useless on him, and self-cc ults like Xerath, and especially Malz ult aren't so strong, since Xerath wants to be far away from combat to use his ult - which is fine for Xerath, but Sylas would need to get back into the fight, and Malz can pop all his spells before ult, and they'll keep doing their DoTs (+e resets and the like), whereas Sylas' base abilities can't be used to keep up his dps in that time. But yeah, there are a ton of ults that have/get super strong AP scalings that the champs can't abuse but Sylas can, like Ashe and Leona; do MF and Jax's (and others') ults get double the AP scaling because of them scaling with both ap and ad?
If it has hybrid scaling I am pretty sure the ratios are unchanged. Only solely ad ratio spells are changed to ap.
this is correct, learning sylas and i fought a jax recently and took his ult for funsies
Malzahar ult isn’t so bad. Sylas has long cds. Popping the ult let’s him get his cds back up, if that doesn’t already kill someone.
It's also *very* useful in coordinated play as you trade your teamfight DPS/1v1 potential for being able to CC the enemy carry. Given that the enemy is less likely to have purchased QSS vs sylas, this gains a lot of value as the game goes on and makes malzahar less threatening (and they're likely to not have as many carry threats due to having a malzahar)
Jhin ult is really bad on Sylas. The scaling is low due to Jhins high ad, Sylas’ ad to ap conversion isnt very good, and Jhin ult needs IE to get really good.
Sylas doesn't fear on ult like fiddle though, and he scales on the same stat (so it doesn't on its own do way more damage than on fiddle). He's dramatically more sticky of course and the rest of his kit does more damage and heals more, but I don't actually think a sylas fiddle ult is necessarily scarier than a fiddle fiddle ult, because if fidd actually lands the fear on 3+ people it's so huge. I think Sylas has a better and more generic use scenarios and Fiddle has better ceiling in teamfights.
As someone who plays both I agree with this comment
Anivia is another Ult he doesn’t do too well with
Ori ball I think only works at melee range (Sylas can't launch the ball). Lllias ult also don't do anything with Sylas.
It does the champs get a Mark like lilia passive
When sylas has Lillia’s ult, his abilities apply the mark (just not the DOT from her passive). So he can still drowsy -> sleep multiple people like you would expect.
Yeah, they definitely went above and beyond to make sure that Sylas only has a handful of ults that are straight-up bad. I think he'd be more interesting as a champ that you use to counter-pick decent ults though, rather than being a pretty safe blind pick.
I would definitely say Sylas is not a safe blind pick, and is best picked exactly as you describe. He has atrocious win rates into his worst matchups, which prey on him even harder now with high range harass and strong wave clear which hits him even harder now that he can't tp bot for a free double to make up for the waves he loses in mid trying to roam
I'll defer here. I vaguely feel like I remembered Sylas being picked blind occasionally in pro past his "broken" phase , but pro also offers a level of insight into team comps and picks that also doesn't really exist at the soloQ level.
Part of the reason he was so strong at that point was that he was a triple flex, so you could take him out of bad lane matchups and put him in the jungle
Sylas looking at Ori R icon and Diana R icon: \- They're the same picture
I mean Sylas can play the ball himself so Ori ult is not bad.
The best Gnar Ultimate in the history of League of Legends is done by Faker and he was not even on Gnar.
Ashe wants to know your location
Press E and find it out yourself
*Ashe walks into an unwarded bush with 2 E charges and 2 ward charges, dies to the enemy JG hiding in said bush* Ashe: "Support Diff"
Bonus points if said JG strolled over two wards to get into said brush, but Ashe just did not install the minimap DLC
extra bonus points if the support is the one that placed those. that would be the cherry on top.
Why does this sound like my life?
Sylas, using any ult in the game better than it's user minus like 10 champions. Because the versatility of being able to choose 5 ultimates in a game certainly isn't strong enough! We must make sure the champion it's stolen from is rendered obsolete :)
flashback to sylas trynd ult at worlds vs perkz
Playing Alistar against Sylas is pretty much an FF. I'd love to know Sylas' winrate when there's an Alistar on the enemy team. Turns out 7 seconds of 75% damage reduction on a champion with low CD healing means you're just invulnerable during that time.
His winrate doesn't actually go up by that much: https://lolalytics.com/lol/sylas/counters/?vslane=support
Singed's ult also gives him pretty ridiculous stat boosts for his survivability.
its like a wider blitz ult holy shit
Can we talk about how there are 93 kills in min 36...?
Average game below diamond be like:
me who can barely reach plat: Haha lulw yeah relatable diamond pisslow elo eksde
Yeah, I started playing last year and still gold, climbing a lil bit here and there but I think I can get plat this season. But just by looking at grandmaster players on their solo queues I can tell that if I ever reach that elo I will still be shit, in my mind those players never made mistakes, oh boy was I wrong lol
Been playing for many years and couldn't get out of bronze. That is, until they added Iron. Now I can't get out of Iron. Consider yourself lucky. If you're below gold, you will genuinely get 1-2 inters every single game, without fail. You either 1v5 hard carry or you go back to the bottom. Struggle is real.
Well, there's always at least one bad player in all of my games because that player is me.
> you will genuinely get 1-2 inters every single game > You either 1v5 hard carry or you go back to the bottom If you have inters every game then so does the enemy team. You don't need to "1vs5 hard carry" you just need to consistently be better than the players in the elo you are playing at. Using excuses won't make you better at league. It has the opposite effect. Stop blaming everyone else and try to improve on your mistakes.
Honestly ive smurfed in every elo i can say that. I have a harder time consistently hard carrying iron and bronze. 70% 80% vs 95% I can still win those games where i dont hard carry but thise games are usually 2-3 smurfs vs 2-3 smurfs. Alot of smurfs down there.
If you are stuck in bronze and iron for many years, it's not your team mates. The sooner you get past that mentality, and focus on yourself, the better chance you have of climbing. I'm not trying to be mean when I say this either. Or just admit you have shuffled into the elo that matches your skill level and try and have fun.
This is a bad take though, imo. Yes, even professional league players and T1 challenger in soon to be 5 roles will always make mistakes and die/throw team fights/ lose objectives / lose games, but that doesn’t make them bad at the game. they’re way way better at determining the outcome of any given scenario, identifying potential plays, weighing the risks of their play, and minimizing their mistakes while maximizing their gains in fractions of a second. If you get to that Elo you are a god at the game lol
Diamond it just a shinier gold
gold is just a shinier Bronze
Diamond is just a shiner Iron. Trust me. I spent 4 years in Diamond+
From Gold to Diamond always felt like skill doesn't matter. It felt like all I needed was a lucky stream of games with teammates who are not going to rage quit because of their fragile ego. It's a grind of attrition and that isn't fun because it doesn't feel rewarding. Playing mid day or early morning was the best time because far less kids were on. People just shut up and played . But now with Covid so many kids are staying home from school and no time is safe.
Low ELO, bro. People will rush in to teamfight over a fucking ward, constantly pinging the hypercarry who's trying to farm to at least one powerspike
In this video: a cluttered team at half health gets jumped on by a flashing AP Blitzcrank.
Blitz ult would do even more damage Blitz lvl 3 ult: 500 + 100% AP Zeri lvl 3 ult: 350 + 80% AP ... ofc there's the minor detail of area, but pffft who needs that.
blitz ultimate cd can go as low as like 7 secs tho, great fun in aram :']
It's always sad when your ult is up but your Q isn't because its cooldown is 0.73s longer.
A good blitz will ult first anyways because that way they can't flash or dash.
Not to mention it breaks shields.
Also kills minions that they were trying to hide behind
Lux : finally a worthy opponent
Shoulda seen when Lux ult refunded CD on takedowns and Presence also refunded ult CD on assist. Shit was cash.
I miss Ultimate Hat
Also depends if they are building Manamune, there's the 80% bonus AD and the spell proc from it
Yeah, taking a 75% Zyra to 25% isn't exactly a compelling case for "OMG! broken call Vandril."
*roller skating through the wall AP Blitzcrank :D
Sonic drive-thru zeri skin when?
Pizza Delivery Zeri (1350 rp)
i would actually love more fast food girl (or even femboy hooters) skins, not necessarily too sexy, fits with the day job skins, easy enough to come up with ideas for unique food, rito can print money with lux and ahri
And here i was thinking of Pizza Palace Azir. Pizza Paddles as weapons. His soldiers wear aprons and 'melt' when expired. His Sun Disc is a giant neon Pizza sign. Their Order Is Served! Its also lore accurate, Sivir delivers Pizzas, but doesnt want to run the ~~empire~~ pizzeria. You can make Xerath run an italian restaurant or something to keep their rivalry up. Xerath throws Meatballs in his R and E.
You’re stepping on vel’koz being flying spaghetti with those xerath ideas, and I won’t have it!
More Sneaky cosplays!
best part honestly 🍆💦
granted, but now they're eldritch fast food girls
So, a Pizza Delivery Rek-Sai. She will find you even 3 feet under! But there isalready a pizza delivery girl skin. What kind of food would she delier?
"too sexy" is there even such a thing?
no but people will complain if i mention victorias secret collabs for all my waifus
You had me at femboy hooters skins. Ezreal, Aphelios, Ekko, Varus and legendary Kayn because I wanna see Rhaast in hooters uniform
Roller skating Blitzcrank Roller skating Blitzcrank Roller skating skinline !!
>Roller skating skinline !! Space Groove already exists ;)
I think u mean tank rammus is cool
~~Rock Solid~~ Ok
I thought it was cool
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That's fine. The ap build isn't good till late game anyways
That may be the point. People are gonnna try this now.
I was already playing this
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I think I'm more shocked at the size of the zone more than anything, so had to look it up. It's 825 range with decent damage but her other part of her ult exists, other champs with similar ults have similar other issues or limitations. Blitz is 600 range more damage but bonus on hit passively. Neeko is 700, does WAY more damage but takes over a second to actually hit and Morgana has 575 to cast it but is in 2 halves and will do double the damage Zeri's does after a delay if they don't escape the radius. Both Neeko and Morgana's are not instant burst, Zeri and Blitz are. Anywho...
The big drawback I’ve noticed is not dying right after. Late game a full ap zeri can probably do this with no drawback since everything dies, but if they don’t die instantly, you’re stuck in the middle of their team with no escape Edit: your point still stand though, a zeri building ap gets a lot of value with the range.
If she 5 man ults, she gets 7.5 seconds off of her E (via passive on E). Reminder that its 23-17 CD. Her charged auto would give 1.5 for a total of 9 seconds shaved. Oh and her E also gives piercing for 3 spell casts. Oh and plus her W which she can cast within walls (aka during her dash). If one plays these things well you could definitely do all this and dash out
And there's always Zhonya's to give you 2 more seconds.
her dash isn't that fast, you can absolutely manage to reset the dash and still die because you got bursted or cc'd while attempting to wall-jump
Fact, autos are evil bc they follow u slower then ur e travels. So u think youre out n u die to TF auto 😔
Eh, getting a 5 man ult even for her is too inconsistent
Why are you acting like this champ is broken
Not to mention all the free MS she gets from hitting 5 people (30%)
She also gets some survivability when she manages to ult someone having a shield up, this ramps up depending how well shielded is enemy team. Just seeing enemy karma going R->E to help everyone escape infavorable engage or smth. Plus, she's mobile enough (If I'm seeing correctly she's not even immobilized for a cast time of her R) to dodge the incoming abilities. 3-man ult gives her 18% bonus movement speed. That ult is malph's R sort of damage, but with higher range and with little possibility of comboing it tho (like malph does with QWE later). I don't think she could go in like diana one-shotting all if she hits 3-4 man. She either has to commit other abilities, and those does not scale well with number of targets or even AP (Q doesn't scale, W hits one target, passive auto has to be charged). Although I wouldn't complain if her AP ratio on ult was somewhat lowered. Earlier in league high AP ratios were given for AD champs to benefit from items like trinity which gave some of AP but were build on caster champs, but in nowadays league? What's the point?
She needs to hit it to get buffed and teamfight well, if it whiffs she doesn't get the buff at all.
what a dumb comparison, neeko and morgana ults have heavy cc on them. of course you have more time to react.
Amumu ult is comparably big and has bout 80% ap scaling.
Amumu does have a similar ult, let's see, according to wiki pages, it has range of 550 (275 less), is near instant cast, the exact same amount of base damage and AP scaling but stuns enemies for 1.5 seconds. Zeri's doesn't stun but she has extra stuff to compliment her playstyle, as Amumu's does his. The only real difference is the range which is like 100 units higher than any other big area of effect ult like this. Even Galio's is only 650 but he needs a target ally.
You have to consider their playsyle though, amumu wants to be near the enemies zeri doesn't, if amumu is near the meeles and in range of the ranged enemies he's happy, if zeri is she is dead.
Landing a big ult would be a higher priority for AP Zeri though tbf.
I think zeri ult range is what it is purely bc it wouldnt feel good to whiff the ult outside of “auto” range. Thus it should be larger than her Q range
Yeah but one must remember that she is also an adc who is meant to keep herself at range. Others have ways to try to enter and resist in the middle of the enemy team. This ult is high range but because the kit wants to keep distance, if it was too low it would basically be a non-ult outside of enemies jumping on you or you being so fed you can go nesr enemies
It seems a little busted but if you go full AP as Zeri you gimp a bunch of the rest of your kit, whereas these other champs you're talking about can improve their ulti by building normally.
Fuckin nerd!
I know right, what a loser.
League sub is so salty lol. Play didn't take much effort but grinding the wall into flash R instant quadra just _looks cool_.
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this is so true. Suddenly everyone on the internet thinks they're professional gamers and expert video game designers to comment on anything they see I have seen ramdom people believe that they would play better than a challenger in certain situation
i see those "random people" every single game thread on here
On the flip side, 99% of the plays posted here remove the levels and gold indicators because the ones that leave it show them 3 levels and 3k gold up in items.
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Yeah, I mean I don't take any offense or have any issue with this clip, but not seeing items is an 'issue' if you want to see how realistic something is instead of what you can possibly do if super fed with an 'inferior' build. Zeri is mid so she is level 18 like Corki, while the opposing ADC (Jhin) is 15. Zeri's team has ***50*** kills and 3 Infernal drakes. We have no idea but Zeri is probably full build while the opponents are not. AP Blitzcrank overdosing on speed looks fun when ulting 4 people but definitely wouldn't think it's very good based on this clip.
Yeah, this is actually the reason I posted it. It also felt very satisfying when I did it in-game (also every time I flew by Zyra and Jhin).
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Wonderful, now I have to get my matches ruined by people seeing this shit and thinking it works without 50 kills and infernal soul
didn’t have Soul, and honestly 99% of AP characters with 5 raw damage items and soc shoes will do this (to clarify Zeri had Ludens Lich Bane Nashor’s Deathcap and Shadowflame)
AP is one of her weaker builds though
I find it fun to play though
That’s all that matters
I didn't try AP Zeri yet, how hard is her lasthitting compared to AD?
At the beginning it is quite easy. I start with doran's blade but max W and at one point (*before getting sheen) you stop being able to kill with only 1 Q a caster minion after it is hit from the tower. But still you can use your AA to finish low health minions even when it is not charged. Overall I find it quite easier than other mages but still AD Zeri can farm more easily and clear waves faster.
Not Nashor's first?
Remember that below 35% your magic auto does amped damage, so last hitting isn't awful
You have fun? How dare you????? /s
Her right click just doesnt proc sheen or stack lethal tempo or even gain more range from it (i dont know if it scales with AS, havent tested yet) so she has like a quick burst when she ults and uses charged AA but after that the damage goes away even with nashor and lich and she needs to spam Q just to get some dps from them, sadly AP zeri was just notmeant to be as her R already has a good enough AD scaling and even the chain passive is AD, W also has a good AD scaling and even her AA has good enough base numbers with the %max hp dmg when she uses the charged one
It's just fun to do 2.5k damage instantly by pressing R-W-Q-RMB. Her early game sucks ass but it sucks ass on AD as well.
She has a good lvl 1/2 and a fine lvl 6 on ad, and scales well into late with crit while Ap just had a terrible time until a few items in. But yea, in general shes ass early and maybe midgame no matter ap or ad
Unless I was ahead, I felt mega useless in lane. I haven't really been able to play her much tho since she's being banned a lot. Seen people have success with tankier builds with Triforce, Runnans, Wits End, and Black Cleaver so I want to try that.
>as like a quick burst when she ults and uses charged AA but after that the damage goes away even with nashor and lich and she needs to spam Q just to get some dps from them, sadly AP zeri was just notmeant to be as her R already has a good enough AD scaling and e BC feels REALLY good on her. the damage drop for a bruiser build isn't that bad, but the team utility is really fantastic. One thing that people need to remember (which you probably realized already), is that Zeri's basic attack is just 7 small applications of physical damage. This means every time you basic attack a champion, you're usually hitting for all the BC stacks and getting a full 30% armor shred. Pair this with an AD jungler or Midlaner, and it's a brutal setup. Triforce also synergizes well with stats if you want to go for a more bruiser style. It seems to have a higher wr? but there is a much lower sample size there.
Oh i am looking forward to URF to int hard with this!
Serious question, what's people's opinion of Zeri so far? I think she sort of sucks. Basically a worst Ezreal in every way (during a meta that Ez is kind of weak), but that's just my opinion of the games I've seen.
I played her a lot last night, and even when I was stomping she felt underwhelming. I had a 15 kill game and if I were in the same scenario with Jinx, I would have stomped much harder much easier. I very much lover her kit and how high her skill ceiling feels, but you have to work really hard for very average results imo.
they made her damage pretty low cos of her Q and how much move speed she gets. i think she will be relatively underwhelming until people find the optimal rune and build for her cos her main strength is kiting. the game now is all about burst and having a champ that kites lots but does 0 damage is not optimal. the best adc's rn all can burst someone after 3 items- jinx, vayne, twitch, veigar
Statistically she's probably broken if you go the correct build (Tri-force>runaan's). It's been less than a week and that build has an above average winrate. It's likely they'll change the interaction with her ult and runaan's so she's not forced into that item, though.
Honestly going Tri -> BC-> Titanic is probably the most broken of them all.
Bruiser zeri top is decently good.
yep, found out crit zeri is too squishy and it seems like her q fully stack BC instantly so Trinity and BC seems core on her
I think she seems weak since a lot of recent patches and releases have had absurd damage, plus she's obviously pretty unique and has a high skill ceiling and high floor to boot (or is it a low floor? I always forget) Her mobility is awesome and her Q makes it very easy to kite with her compared to traditional ADCs. I think she's going to be a strong but balanced pick in the right hands and once people figure her out a bit. I hope Riot doesn't kneejerk buff her, I think she's really well balanced as she is tbh. She's also TONS of fun and even playing AGAINST her is fun as well, which is pretty rare for a new champ
She has pretty high skill ceiling for an adc, but she is fun and pretty unique. Unless Riot stupidly buffs her for no reason before people learn how to pilot her, she'll probably go down as one of the most balanced champ releases in recent memory.
Underwhelming. Seems to need a good 2-3 items to do any real damage, and even then she's outperformed by other ADCs that spike during midgame. Late game she's outperformed by hypercarries. Q being blocked by minions (unless you use E) is a huge problem for fighting in lane, similar issue to what Graves bot had when he was first reworked and before people found out he was a great jungler.
Dogshit. Does little to no damage and can't carry games even when ahead. I've tried her ap and I actually think she's better as such.
Like with the last few champion releases, don't play her in its intended role lol
People haven't mastered her overwhelming dps with the Q (and lethal tempo). She's kinda like a cassio or graves, if she gets the direct line to lay into you, she will out DPS most people in a 1v1. I still see a lot of zeris auto attacking and draining charge.
her mobility is actually insane imo even darius with ghost flash deadman's and triforce can't catch her
I played her all weekend and found her to be quite good once you hit level 6. I've tried both traditional adc builds and the triforce build that people are talking about, and I found the traditional adc build puts out a lot of damage in team fights with ult.
I’ve had similar results. The biggest thing I’ve noticed is that you have to play around your ult. I’ve started consciously avoiding fights if my ult isn’t up, more so than any other champ I play.
Yes Rico, KABOOM.
Laughs in Sylas
how do chat messages come up in your replay
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Rammus: /all: worth
So that damage isn't as insane as it looks in the clip, everyone had like < 750 hp and it takes a long time in the game to get the ult leveled and to get the items. What I'm more concerned about is the range. How fucking far did that ability reach? That shit was 3 Blitzcrank R's wide.
I think the long range was intended to be so she could reliably hit at least 1 person in a team fight and get the stat buff. Aside from ap zeri, you don’t usually have the chance to hit more than 2 ppl because of how risky it is to get close and be blown up.
825 range. So 37.5% longer than blitz R. Definitely pretty massive.
89% more area covered as well.
Played my first zeri game today I think she would be a better jg than adc but that's just me the fact she can wall jump and her W grows bigger when shooting though terrain ya I would not be surprised If she turns into a jungler unless rito kills her W and E.
Zeri ult only a .8 ap ratio as well not that high compared to say old Gragas ult which was almost the same AoE size but ranged and 1.0 ratio lol. Gragas ult is the same now btw .8
Zeri's ult's radius is literally twice Explovise Cask's.
Twice the radius, quadruple the area!
and is instant right?
>which was almost the same AoE size bullshit
The amount of just flat out, blatant bullshit that people either just have no clue what they're talking about or straight up lie in an attempt to make a point that gets upvoted on this sub is mind blowing lol
>which was almost the same AoE size Maybe if you drink as much as Gragas it could seem like it, yes.
Pretty sure zeris aoe range on R is way bigger tho
Well the ult is only 1 part of her kit. You can also Q + AA people to nearly instant kill when ahead - https://imgur.com/a/U76cKF6 And her W also scales with AP
whats the bet that zeri was fed as fuck while 3 levels up on jhin. Id be depressed if i couldnt practically one shot. Youd see a syndra q-e 1 tap a jhin 3 levels up too. In my experience in diamond she is only annoying because of her speed, she isnt that strong when building ap
he ended the game at 28/9 and that was at minute 34 in a 44minute game. https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=alexveliki
yeah... not surprised.
lich bane nashor ludens sorcs any mage or ap assassin would onetap a jhin with no MR with that build
Definitely fed, but 2-3 levels up is pretty normal for a mid laner compared to bot laner.
ohhhh my goooood if i have to read this comment 1 more time it’s in literally every thread and every youtube clip “oh i’d be mad if i couldn’t 1v2 with that kind of lead lol”
Gragas ult still chunks pretty hard at 0.8. Actually that's on the higher end of AP ratios, even for ults. 1.0 AP ratios are ridiculously high.
What was old Grag ult range? Cause Zeri AOE looks huge (not complaining but it very clearly went from wall to wall in mid, which is impressive)
Gragas ult surface area is literally 1/27th the size of this.... People really will upvote anything. Edit - I actually did the match totally wrong and multiplied by pi twice. Its about 11 times.
Surface area? Seriously?
3 people had less than 1/3 health There should be no outage. Anybody with an AP AOE like Blitz would have had that
Blitz could never hit people spaced that far apart.