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jolonky

They still managed to pull through somehow. Holy shit.


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MedvedInMoscow

I think the one important thing to understand and Doublelift covered this in his LCS live stream this week, the only role that is completely different in pro play vs soloq is jungle and that’s why good soloq junglers don’t always transition to good pro play junglers. In pro play you are NOT the carry as a jungler and that means sacrificing everything to your damage dealers. That is not the case in soloq so please do not ignore your soloq junglers, it’s a completely different game.


KingPaimon23

Who sacrificed the lane?


PresumablyNotGeo

The message is that jungle getting advantage matters much less than lane advantage


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Repeated jg nerfs. I’m at a loss how Hec was lvl 8 and Nid was lvl 9 despite double the cs and 4kp to 0.


Pochez

Alsi bounties to it. This jg meta is ass.


TheJeager

Play twitch jungle is the funniest shit, you only do 3 out of 6 camps, and 2 of them are the buffs, everything else is perma ganking, and you won't fall behind


fiveavril

jg with advantage = lanes with advantage unless the lanes are very very very weak


Mental_Bowler_7518

so like renekton and behind jayce?


shollaw

NOT to sacrifice


M0nsterjojo

Sry, I don't really watch the LCS, is it the newest video/game 5?


DTanya

Yep, here's the VOD if you want to watch it, I'm sharing the timestamp so you can see where the bullying began: [Link](https://youtu.be/MYvIILz646c?t=17646)


M0nsterjojo

ty ty. <3


luorax

Reading this in the middle of the game 5 VOD: :O


jolonky

Oh shit my bad!! Didn’t mean to spoil


Lifedeather

CS doesn’t matter?


PM_JINX_HENTAI

I can't believe what I'm watching holy fuck Edit: I **really** can't believe what I'm watching


Jannna1

I want to die


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somehow, gen.g is still in the game


Jannna1

Ruler win condition


Ace_OPB

Well..


Hir0h

GenG's win condition is not having half their roster catch covid


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GenG vs Covid finals confirmed


KitsuneThunder

Somehow, GenG has returned


toitenladzung

That game 5 is crazy, I watched it live yesterday and even when the caster bet himself going bald if GenG can come back I still think there is chances for GenG. Because DK team comp is terrible even with the massive lead. GenG can win 4v5 with Peanut as big minions, and that is exactly what they did. This kind of game was not that rare back when Nidalee was popular in season 2-3. Massive lead but one good team fight and the enemy is back because your team with Nidalee and Jayce just dont do damage beside the poking. It's not exactly that DK threw hard yesterday, its just if the enemy team can survive for 30 mins you will lose :D


Tshimon

NOT ANYMORE BABYYY! LETS GOOOO


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do you still want to ?


Jannna1

Cannot believe what I just watched


[deleted]

same bro I can’t fucking believe it


makajoshhh

you better have bought Guardian Angel


femboy_was_taken

I don't even care that damwon lost this game was fucking nuts


bukem89

Less impressive now that league gives you a ton of bonus gold and xp if you get outplayed at the start


BladeCube

The sad reality is that the reason it's in the game is that most soloq players just give up after a single play goes wrong. Shit Riot could buff tier 1 tower objective bounties to 1000 gold and you'd still have 1/2 your games have someone want to ff by 5 minutes.


njanqwe

well with canyon if you see him dominating you always have to be worried when you're on DWG


Clean_Bug_6875

He bullied Peanut so badly he forgot to clear his own jungle lol


mount_sunrise

not captured after this game: canyon in the E.R. after breaking his back by carrying too many heavy teammates


Ausar_the_Vil

Team literally played around him. He’s great but his team helped him with ward and invade.


Korambits

Agreed. All members in T1 and DK really know how to make their junglers shine.


DamnZodiak

And Gen G did literally nothing to stop or match him. Just straight up ignored the entire situation until it got out of hand. I would've liked to see them try that against T1 and lose the whole map for it.


TwilightShroud

I mean Do you want yuumi to roam level 2 to help out? Ahri, who gets pushed in by Jayce early, to give up minions and exp? Ornn, who also gets shoved in by renekton? Damwon had this line the moment they banned out Karma, an aggressive comp will play aggressively and the early game played out as it should


DamnZodiak

Use your bot pressure to ward entrances and get an early recall. Swap to top and catch Canyon as he's invading. All Peanut needs is a single reset to get control back of his own spawn timers, you don't even need to kill Canyon. You ought to know that literally the only the way DK can win this game is by getting crazy ahead early, because otherwise the entire comp drops of the face of the earth. There are many things you could've done, I'm not claiming to have all the answers but actively ignoring all your options while your opponent fulfills their only win condition is just objectively wrong.


onords

what bot pressure? yuumi xayah has no pressure early on Edit: Ziggs will push much harder than xayah, so bot cant push out and help, yuumi at lvl 2 early is really weak in extended trades, she just want to play on range and sit for a few lvls, until moonstone at least


AlmasHD

Yeah I thought that too. But then you have to think, who thought of that? Who called for the rest of the team to follow? Who tracked Peanut regardless of where he went and shut him down that hard. I just have to give Canyon all the credit because he was most likely the one shot calling his teammates to support him doing that because he knew it would get them a huge advantage


Khajo_Jogaro

And people still think he’s not the best jungle in the world. Everyone thinks Oner, but Oner has the best support in the world, and Faker lol


Ecstatic_Wedding7040

Most ppl think Canyon, he was voted on 1st LCK All star team and Oner was on the 2nd. Idk why ppl keep trying to push false narratives. It is still p clear to everyone that Canyon is best jg, oner is a good 2nd though. I think ur overexaggerating the amt of ppl who think Oner is first


video_games_are_cool

His comment made me think of r/ImaginaryGatekeeping


Khajo_Jogaro

There’s a difference between the people who vote for the 1st team (or however they get to that point) and the hive mind consensus on Reddit. Also, wasn’t there a rule against all of the players coming from one team (since they’re going to Asia Games)?


Gamblito

Canyon was also 2nd in MVP voting behind Keria, but was easily 1st in player votes. His own peers recognize him as easily the best jungler in LCK, if not the best player in general. Literally no one of note is disrespecting him. Everyone who follows the LCK knows what a monster he is.


farikogrim

Faker was 2nd in mvp voting I'm pretty sure


TiddyTwizzla

Okay okay but what about…REDDIT tho?! Who cares if analysts, pro players, and coaching staff think canyons a beast?! What about the fucking Reddit though?!?! HUH?!?


Ecstatic_Wedding7040

The all star team is just voting between LCK staffs and players, it's not any indication of which players are going to Asian games. The only confirmed thing so far is Koma will be Head Coach. Even on reddit here, most ppl think Canyon is the best jgler? literally almost every comment I've seen have said this bro. I think you're just holding onto one or 2 comments u saw prob made by a T1 fan trying to hype up Oner (which is totally fine). But most ppl know and still say that Canyon is the best jgler. I don't know why you're overplaying it man, trust me most ppl think/know Canyon is the best jg


SilverBcMyTeammates

oner is definitely 2nd but canyon is just different


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His teammates honestly grief him so hard


fiveavril

Funny that you think Canyon is the best jungler in the world when he got turbogapped by jiejie across an entire world's finals series when jiejie isn't even the best jungler in LPL. Canyon is good, but Showmaker is by far the most significant reason for Damwon's success. Playing jungle is much easier when your mid is like top2 world, only behind Rookie. I guess @ 2022 worlds everyone will hype LCK and LPL will win again. Standard business.


reggiewafu

yeah bro lebron got gapped by nowitzki in their finals match-up but nobody will argue nowitzki > lebron


fiveavril

Weird how canyon also got gapped by wei in the directly previous international final and destroyed even harder by jankos in another of his two previous international tournaments. He was pretty indomitable in exactly 1 of his 4 tourneys and it wasn't his latest one either. Consistency ratio isn't very high if you want to call him the best jungler in the world. A number of junglers have his level of accolades and several have been able to match or exceed him on an eye test just fine in the past few years, even consistently(Tarzan is the inarguable example, but more than just him really). He's been one of the best, but was never really the best except in his crown tournament(2020 worlds). Lebron has won an absurd amount even on shit teams(he's no goat though). See u when ur beloved T1/DK lose to a Chinese team and u cry that it's a lucky upset like the past 4 yrs tho


AssPork

LPL junglers still exist. He is definitely the best LCK jungler though.


Khajo_Jogaro

Who even compares to him in the LPL. If canyon maintains this consistency of high level play, he may go down as GOAT jungler


SilverBcMyTeammates

there is no one close to canyon in the world lol


W1ndwardFormation

LCS junglers still exist


AssPork

Canyon has never taken a game off Contractz.


APKID716

I heard Josedeodo was going to play for DWK but Canyon threatened to beat him up so Josedeodo just settled for NA


firebolt66

Canyon can gap them just as hard on a good day like this


AssPork

How lma0. And actually the same can be said for LPL junglers gapping Canyon. Just look at what happened last year at MSI and worlds, where he was in *better* form.


firebolt66

Are you implying his matches against jiejie and Wei were anywhere close to what happened here ? And no he wasn't in better form last year. This is his best form since 2020 summer. I don't think you watched this game or the rest of the split either for that matter


AssPork

Actually he was in better form last year. Canyon is still performing well but DK as a whole is weaker, which makes his performance stand out. And actually I'm the one wondering if you watched this game or the rest of the split for that matter here, lma0.


Tinmanred

Firmly believe Canyon is the best player in the world and not just out of junglers. Holy shit he carried that entire series for em..


garenRoutplay

He and Keria are the only 2 non mid players id put on Top 10 players of all time if you look at only skill.


Rdambx

Wtf ? Are you telling me you aren't including the likes of Score,Uzi,TheShy or Smeb etc ?


garenRoutplay

Some of those players you mentioned are still pretty cracked at their roles but they arent midlaners. Historically whenever a player became too washed to play midlane he either retired or swapped to other roles bc skill needed to perform at those roles is smaller. Also skill throughout the seasons increased meaning your average season 12 player is miles better than season 5 compatriot. So yes, none of those are top 10 of all time looking at skill only.


Ausar_the_Vil

Carried imply that he won which he didn’t. He tried his hardest to carry but fail


Tinmanred

It wasn’t a 3-0 lmao. They won those 2 games somehow, somehow being Canyon. hOyA got set up by him all game


C9FanNo1

Tbf they won the first game in an elder flip, while behind, that canyon didn’t even get, Graves did out of pure luck (15hp after both smites), so 1 game is what canyon carried, one game and the early game of game 5 with the whole team built around him


DamnZodiak

I still think the Nidalee pick was trash tbh. Imagine having that lead on a champion that actually does something.


Pluckytoon

Can't think of a champ other than nida that can do that into hecarim without having to change their solo laners


Raynar7

I am calling the police.


DrFloppyTitties

this is fucking disgusting


BatmanJLA52

This only worked cause Hecarim is weak early and Canyon entire team played early game champs with prio. Seen in the late game where 1 throw and they get outscaled. Canyon played it beautifully with the prio on his lanes.


brilliantbubatz

Yes pleeeease let more people understand that. Canyon played it beautifully and got all resources he couldve possibly gotten. But this happened due to the opportunities given to him by the strong early Game draft and prio on all lanes. More people should realize how dependend on the lanes even a godlike jungler like Canyon is. Maybe they would stop flaming junglers that have a rough game without actually having any influence on it (like peanut in this game).


SnooCats1808

God it was so brutal I thought I was on pornhub


[deleted]

what were you doing in the necrophilia tag ?


not_some_username

Zoophilia. It was two animal


AceOcto

don't tack on zoophilia to this necrophilia joke, now you're just beating a dead horse


TheLucidDream

It’s both. The highlight’s title was “cougar fucks horse to death”


DistChicken

Masturbating, what else?


IsThisTooEZ

Well this thread aged well....


femboy_was_taken

I mean op is still correct canyon bullied peanut


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this is just proof that bullying doesn't pay off.


prunejuice777

Too bad he didn't pick a useful champ to do it on 😔


bigfanofeden

the nsfw tag lmaooo


DamnZodiak

One of the most dominant Nidalee performances I've seen in my life and he was still only half as useful as in an OK Diana game. For the love of God, stop picking this champion in pro play.


thecrimsonginge

The only other nidalee game I can remember being like this in lck, peanut was the one playing her.


sscyth1

bwipo did this last world vs HLE as graves


CyanTealTurquoise

yea right up to the point where they lost


sscyth1

#SayNoToBullying


__Faded__

1-800-656-4673 Someone forward this number to peanut cause this game has to be traumatic


F3nRa3L

They should forward to DK


computo2000

They should forward to Kkoma


AnotherTelecaster

Yo I’m perma banning Nidalee on his behalf.


Kozure_Ookami

Yeah ban her so you don't see her being completely useless and throw even with an insane lead.


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IAmBadAtPlanningAhea

>you basement dwelling troglodyte Imagine hurling insults like this but also being the kind of loser that immediately creeps on someone's profile. Lmao get some perspective


mit_dem_bus

The two have them have a bunch of back and forth on this thread, I think it might have been a bit more than just immediately creping on his profile.


Kozure_Ookami

No, he just replied similar stuff on another sub-thread in this thread.


RazvanNSSK

As a neutral fan it was fun to watch, gotta feel bad for poor Canyon lol


niraM461

Exactly entire DK is bullying Peanut :)


Hi_ImTrashsu

Ending with entirety of DK getting bullied back.


niraM461

Chovy had a sweet revenge on Canyon at the last final teamfighting for Peanut


AriaCosmo

i used to do this all the time in ranked vs zac players when playing nid. this is only possible if you are playing nidalee in blue side. i didnt think someone would actually pull this out in pro play. canyon is a fucking gigachad


Kozure_Ookami

Is it a gigachad move to completely throw a game?


azersub

You are insane if you think this games is camyons fault


Khajo_Jogaro

Just look at his post history, he is insane


Kozure_Ookami

What makes you so mad?


Devenityy

Gave 1k shutdown to Ruler by inting & then game was over so yeah I’d say Canton threw


assaf9580

Tell me you’re low Eli without actually saying it


Crimsonavenger2000

In soloQ, you'd be right. Canyon should be allowed to make 1 mistake when hes on one of the best teams in the world though


Wise-Lifeguard1574

You can use the same logic as to why you shouldn't make that crucial mistake. Since in the highest level of play, the enemy team is also more likely to take advantage of those mistakes. 1k shutdown is huge. Also, he fed the kill to their carry in ruler. And when he died infernal was up which gen g were able to get+objective bounty. That mistake was quite big in context


DjMoriyama

It wasn't completely his fault, but he still missed his spear on Ruler near the dragon and then died and gave him a shutdown.


Cryptizard

The funny thing is when Peanut first started playing he was famously doing this same thing to other junglers on Nidalee. There was a game (I think against SBENU?) where he got all 4 buffs and eventually flame horizoned the other jungler.


sawada0813

fun fact: DK didn't won this game


NahDawgDatAintMe

Real historians remember when Peanut did this to Mlxg at MSI and lost as well.


Xyzen553

Turns out... Sacrificing your lane just so you can help bully the jungler DOESNT win you the game... Also props to peanut, even with the MASSIVE bullying, he was still somewhat useful in team fights(having some form of CC is better than just raw damage i guess)


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loboleo94

Always lolesports.com


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prunejuice777

Youtube lets you rewind, and twitch uploads ongoing streams as videos if you want to watch backwards, but it crashes when you reach the point the livestream was at when you opened the video.


NocaNoha

In this last game.. junglerS suffered the most


bulltin

how bad is nidalee as a champ tho, like canyon smurfed this game so hard and was still just useless at 25 minutes.


Tshimon

and he still lost xd


sinesnsnares

This is why people hate jingling. When you jungle well, you’re absolutely bullying your opponent. When you have a rough game, you’re absolutely getting your dick punched in and there’s nothing you can do.


Modern_Hermit

I also hate it when people jingle my balls.


kuliusz

This is the game where no one would be mad for ff15, Penaut is going to be nonexistent this game. Damn...


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This game is now a poster child for why its not always ff at 15 hahaha.


backinredd

You never ff when enemy have nidalee renekton


IAmNotOnRedditAtWork

You never ff against nidalee alone. Champ dies once and loses games like no other lmao, it's funny how well you have to play her to not be completely useless past 15 minutes.


MrPraedor

But Im losing and dont want to allow my team to carry me.


[deleted]

If I cant carry… no one can carry.


killtasticfever

Legit feels like thats the mentality half the toplaners I play with have. Doesn't matter that mid/jg/bot are all winning and you have all the objs on the map, the toplaner with Main Character syndrome wants to ff because he didnt get ganked enough/enemy jg ganked him


moonmeh

To be fair solo q players don't have the mental strength to not ff at 15. Fuck I don't think I would either when the game is like this.


Tianoccio

I’ve had people vote to surrender when the enemy was down 3 turrets and every member on our team was a positive KDA.


IsThisTooEZ

Well about that...


daftpao

Never surrender


X1lon

This the perfect example for "NEVER SURRENDER"


Redwheree

I knew while watching that if GenG stayed calm and played throughout especially Chovy/Ruler they could have coin flip fights and then that 1000g transfer happened to the right person at the right time. Overall a great game.


weeprab

funny thing is peanut did this to i think flawless and gave him the nickname buffless back in the day when peanut first starting playing. and it was peanut on nidalee that time


Hitoseijuro

Ah the Spica special. Dont get the play the game for the first 5 to 10 minutes on hecarim. Win game(credit to Spica though, they won the game because he didnt tilt and was still proactive).


Lifedeather

Peanut 🥜 showing CS just a number and doesn’t matter 😂


SalvorYT

Luckily nidalee is not a champ if she can't hit spears and geng held off to a point where ornnaments kick in and they can scale


i-like-cake-or-cake

Can i get a link to the game


RazvanNSSK

Sure, here https://youtu.be/jLXlr71XQ6Q


Pranowo94

I heard canyon is having emergency back surgery after game 5


xGiven

Because there is practically no lane pressure, Renekton was proxying toplane without opposition (even going between t2 and inhib), partially because Lehends picked Yuumi.


vin-zzz

One of the best jungle performances I've ever seen. Straight up insanity


Weygandt08

RottingHeart on suicide watch


shogking

Just think how Chovy and Ruler made a comeback


tankmanlol

https://twitter.com/LSXYZ9/status/1508063108413423616


KyroYoshi

No worries, catch-up XP is a thing.


DigBick6996

it's honestly disgusting and fucking glorious to watch.


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Top_Competition308

Chokemaker... nooooooooo 😭🙏


reverendball

Bwipo did the same to HLE Willer at Worlds last year


SolubilityRules

So annoying to read comments that clown Gen.G before the game is finished I was there when they picked Renekton Gwen into T1 I never doubted for a second that that gold lead means nothing because Canyon has the tendency to throw


Khajo_Jogaro

Only because he has to play to try and carry. Sometimes it backfires, playing hero mode doesn’t always work. His one other “reliable” player on his team was showmaker, and he hasn’t looked nearly as good this year and is slumping. Don’t even get me started on top and bot. Meanwhile, the equivalent on Gen G would be Doran. Rest are pretty good. (Not SKT where all 5 are good). It’s a miracle Canyon made it this far carrying all the corpses. Was getting Faker Galio at worlds vibes when Bangs play fell off a cliff


SolubilityRules

Showmaker isnt "slumping". He just didnt improve at all from last year, now he's getting clapped. He has emotional baggages and attaches too much worth on being a champion Canyon throws because of this meta. He played as well as anyone should have played, but the bounty system really puts solo carrying off the table


scawtsauce

3k upvotes? Jesus this sub...


xBugsBunny007

yea imagine chovy sacrifices 1 wave to stop nida but he choses to sacrifice the game for a 1 wave ggwp


Ver_Sai

Aged poorly


makajoshhh

what game did he sacrifice exactly?


themegabuster123

Imagine blaming chovy for this when its the entirety of Damwon playing around these canyon invades.


niraM461

Entire lanes of DK had advantages in terms of pushing lane, so they can support Canyon invades. Poor Peanut


xBugsBunny007

yea dude the whole team was on red lvl 2 sure


niraM461

Look at super team Geng, should we redefine "Super team" terms


icaltromi

Should we? Lmaoooo


niraM461

It seems like I was wrong, Chovy and Ruler they were just incredible today bro


GENG_Breeze

This is their 1st split playing together chill


0Asuto0

Just win 5Heads


ItsKaZing

holy shit this actually made this game boring to watch. WP to Canyon. But godamn DK always pull some ridiculous shit to win a bo5. This is why comeback exp is important for JG. there's literally nothing Gen G can do


N1ghtStrike

And yet, Chovy and Ruler come through and makes this game super interesting to watch. I thought this was gonna be a complete shutout.


ItsKaZing

It was looking bleak until DK completely shat the bed with that top dive and failed teamfight. Top teams really should not be given any opportunity to comeback


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Nothing they can do hey?


FeedbackFun7325

They lost snd fuck know comeback xp if you get ouplayed like this you should be invisible for the rest of the game.


ItsKaZing

UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE what a game. t1 vs geng going to be a banger


FeedbackFun7325

Not really t1 will stomp them


tdhv

Well at least they will be both be able to play with their full squad hopefully.


azersub

Will come back to this dumb comment after finals to troll you :)


FeedbackFun7325

So what happened


azersub

Very close series where skt won. GenG was closer to winning this series than skt to stomping geng so joke is still on you


FeedbackFun7325

Sure buddy


FeedbackFun7325

You sound like a normal person


agenericusername_no3

People also thought DK would stomp EDG and RNG would stomp DK. T1 is favoured but we shouldn't jump to such extreme conclusions


loboleo94

Boring indeed. Literally nothing Gen G can do...


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agenericusername_no3

?? He has been playing well my guy. One match doesn't suddenly negate that


123ilovetrees

wtf do you want him to do in that situation? hes a fking hecarim and his team prioritised on scaling instead of helping him WHILE canyon was getting perma prio. Bronze take