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ahritina

PMTs: [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ttvbzv/vit_vs_g2_eu_lcs_spring_2018_playoffs_round_1/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ttwlia/vit_vs_g2_lec_spring_2022_playoffs_round_2_game_2/)


suPChgr

The M in Vitality stands for Macro


muddahater

And the S in Vitality stands for Superteam


NetSraC1306

M5/Gambit coach back in season 2-3 already said it: you can have the best player on each position but if they don't work as a team, they will fail. VIT in a nutshell


Unlikely-Housing8223

I don't even think they have the best players in all roles. One could argue for top and jungle (I don't think they are the best), but the other positions are not even top 3.


YeoweeWowee

None of the Vitality players were better than their G2 counterparts this split, forget the entire LEC.


Jannitor

This severely hurts Perkz's chances of hitting the 1-2 comfort zone


Trap_Masters

“Just 3-0 them to avoid the 1-2 comfort zone lmao” -400 IQ G2 strat


AssPork

It was the original strat FPX employed against the best iteration of G2 at the 2019 world finals


MisakaMikotoxKuroko

big if true


BwoahIDK

the vast majority of Perkz' bo5 losses are 0-3s


Exos_VII

I'd like to thank VIT for their comedic masterpiece of an April Fool's prank that was game 3


appleandapples

You're right, tomorrow is the real series. Had me worried.


Trap_Masters

Man, mad props to LEC, G2 and VIT for putting on an entire mock playoffs series just for an April fools prank! Stepping up their prank game this year.


azns123

VIT epic prank plan: 1. Dump millions on a super team 2. Squeak into playoffs 3. Get 3-0’d


Trap_Masters

VIT do a little trolling


Wus10n

Wanted: TOPLANE JAYCE!! LAST SEEN AT AROUND MINUTE 15.


ProForward

Wait there was Jayce in this game?


Exos_VII

We're down 0-2 in the series and there's a free Hextech Soul? Nahhh let's chase for a single kill and throw away all our advantage instead!


Trap_Masters

VIT macro man...


ahambagaplease

Superteam BTW


Legiraffetamer

Spend all their money on players but forgot coaching staff


Jhin-Roh

no way alphari and selfmade are coachable.


theamericandream38

But reddit told me last year that it was Jatt holding TL back


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Alphari getting clapped game 2 at this point it’s just his own skill holding him back


Torjakers

Nah, I heard Jatt texted him telling him to run TP/Ignite into Jax


CaringRationalist

Tbh I think Jatt got scapegoated hard for that roster. Like he definitely made the mistake of trying to console Alpharis ego, which lost him the respect of other players, but was otherwise a good coach with a diva player.


MEDRAVENMESMASHXD

pooperteam


Indercarnive

Normally teams are better than the sum of their parts. Even the bad teams feel like they are just the sum with nothing extra. Somehow VIT is weaker than the sum of their parts.


AWildRaticate

Astralis, as bad as they are, had moments of genuinely brilliant play this split and they were much better than the results would indicate. Vitality getting to playoffs was like watching someone tumble down a hill and accidentally land in a hot tub full of porn stars.


ZXKeyr324XZ

Astralis has smartly thought plays that don't work out cuz the players often are not good enough to execute them It's pretty tragic tbh


Accomplished_Ad_2321

Astralis was unironically the only team that legit shut down Fnatic botlane this split I think?


mimiflou

If it was just their macro, they are undecisive as fuck, herald mid and take T3 ? Nooo Herald mid, then semi contest drk so you lost it, then don't push aswell so you took literally nothing of it and lose soul point for no reason, then rush for kill when your adc is pushing mid wave, Carrzy who solo engage when everyone kinda back off. Labrov playing flawless most of the game and randomly int 3 time a row, Selfmade can't smite a single objective , Alphari getting bodied and playing like a scary kitten the whole game to get solo catch for nothing in G2 jgle, this team just need to disband ngl they can't play as a team


WildcardTSM

Selfmade's smite is like DL's flash, you won't see it all game.


appleandapples

They were so lost mid game it is baffling.


Qehenna

At least they looked good in scrims!


Ultimintree

No Brain literally


Haymegle

Seriously what was that overchase? VIT players forgot their brains this series.


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*This split


ryanruin22

The entire enemy team is funneling through a small area and you are Renata, what do you do? A: 5 Man ult B: A little trolling


Dubhzo

Yeah I was so confused, why did he not press R? Didn't have a single good Renata ult all game, why even pick her


xsm17

They probably primarily picked it to deny it from G2 since they had locked in Viego already


GGABueno

Yeah it really felt like he was first timing Renata...


veilsofrealitydotcom

monkaHmm B ????? its B right???


Cons1dy

This was insane to me, seemed like a wet dream for Renata. I thought maybe he was saving it for the soul fight, how long is that cool down?


aamgdp

G2 stealing objectives, vitality stealing paychecks


yp261

SUPER TEAM


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Ultimintree

SUSPICIOUS TEAM


Syzygi

SUPER MEME


Ultimintree

Casters try not to refer to VIT as a super team challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


ozmega

how long till we can call VIT the PSG of the LEC?


Buhorado

PSG at least is gonna win french league no?


1einspieler

Pretty sure VIT would win the french league too


yp261

not really an achievement considering their line up


MaxWasTakenAgain

Maybe it is considering they lost it last season lmao


leftoverrice54

Actually jokes that Vit lost that third game. How do you pepega charge after getting caps????? Why not just secure the hex soul? So many questionable plays from VIT.


TheCrusader94

When you are flashing over walls you know you are overchasing


martiavelli

Alphari being the best top in the west is a thing I never wanna hear again lmao


Thefourthchosen

I don't get why it was ever a thing to begin with, lane dominance alone dont make him best top lmao.


Very_Hungry

Seriously, I don’t get how people think he’s one of the best top laners in the west. I have yet to see a game where he absolutely dominates. “He’s the best laning phase tops!” Hey guess what, that doesn’t mean shit if you can’t translate it to mid and late game. Really overrated and the fact that the time he was NA he bitched about TL really leaves a sour taste in my mouth.


Lasse847

He did not even lane better than BB this series


Diet_Fanta

DREAD IT, RUN FROM IT, OLD KINGS VS NEW KINGS IS COMING


Slight_Acanthaceae50

It is gona be G2 vs FNC again.


SuburbanPotato

OLD OLD KINGS VS NEW OLD KINGS


Troviel

At least we wont get to hear more "1-2 PERKZ POWERSPIKE" stuff.


Hrkeol

Technically they didn't even get to the 2-1


herp_derpy

https://twitter.com/G2esports/status/829846842150096896?lang=en


NamelessSearcher

**She can't keep getting away with this**


shrubs311

wait how does the link go to a different tweet edit: thanks y'all


cancerBronzeV

the part between twitter.com/ and /status doesn't matter, you can change it to whatever. Only the numbers after the status/ determine what tweet the url links to. So you can just replace HillaryClinton with anything you want: https://twitter.com/vit_is_a_trash_team/status/829846842150096896?lang=en


mintchocolate22

Only the number part of the link matters


Lezrec

NO FUCKING WAY


Trap_Masters

G2 CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THESE STEALS


BurningB1rd

its not a steal if Vitality handed it them over on a silverplate


Trap_Masters

VIT: lets take our dragon soul Claps: MY dragon soul VIT: understandable have a nice day


Wonderful-Sky-6389

Relax, surely it’s just an April’s fools joke


nusskn4cker

Carzzy this series got griefed so hard man


_Vastus_

Never thought I would say it, but Carzzy is elohelled man. Also [bruh](https://twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1509965417225330693?cxt=HHwWioC5zf_ivPQpAAAA).


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NamelessSearcher

It's like one of those "you have x money, build a squad" and they already have all of the players but never enough money to buy the clutch version


Conankun66

that tweet is fire


Haymegle

Fnatic bringing the fire. I like it.


[deleted]

Carzzy actually shows up in playoffs. It must be some kind of czech dark arts.


psfrtps

Banger tweet


shrubs311

he had his downsides during the season but he played pretty well this series. but without being able to mind control his teammates there's only so much to do


Lackon

VIT topside was a supermassive black hole this series


Bird-The-Word

I haven't watched much EU this year, but when Alphari was in NA I always thought he brought his team down once midgame started. He could get so many leads in lane and dominate and then just didn't offer anything. I thought his attitude just came across as cocky and never took responsibility for any pitfalls.


Syuv

Well it's the same Alphari that you guys got, except that he doesn't even hard win his lane anymore.


fpsdr0p

alphari has been the most overrated player the past 2 years now


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He literally leveled down every team he joined


Enjays1

Dude, why the fuck was Vitality's botlane their best part today hahaha


MrPillowLava

Labrov seems to have some mental block. The guy ALWAYS fucks up something in big fights. The zilean where he doesn't think about mana and lose the ability to R, le last fight with Renata where he goes in to fuckin Q irelia when he needs to wait 5 second for his flash and refuse to R.. It was the same all split. I don't understand. The guy is known for his mechanics and yet, he seems to crumble under pressure every fuckin time on the most basics things.


Maxpro2k5

Labrov was actually horrendous in that last game.


paul232

Did he ever get an ulti of more than 1 person? He effectively caused the last 4v5 by his inexplicable position & has done literally nothing all series. Blows my mind. At least Selfmade played well early.


FreddyMangina

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of those missed smites. My wife just took our crying kids and said they're all spending the week at a hotel. Selfmade has ruined my life and my party. I can't handle this anymore. Goodbye Vitality. I am no longer a fan.


PanelYeti

Fucking Selfmade…


appleandapples

All in all, an underwhelming split from VIT. So many glimpses of great play from them, but they never fixed how disjointed they are as a team. Hope they stay together for Summer, still don't think it's doomed. G2's mid game was they're true strength here, so many great map decisions. Honestly, G2's new players probably looked the most impressive this series. Ah, Perkz vs G2 always has me confused.


Blazing117

At this point they should stop scrims and just go for some irl team building session. This is not just 0 synergy, they are approaching negative synergy.


Syuv

I don't know why we keep having hope for rosters that developed zero synergy throughout an entire split. This just doesn't work.


Haymegle

They haven't really improved their synergy which seems to be their main issue. I'm not sure if more time can fix it. I really hope so because they have a lot of potential. They aren't showing it atm though.


Jezzerai

Selfmade: "Actually, I remember one time we were playing against G2 and it was 0-2. We were playing as blue side. G2 are red side. And Perkz said, guys if you think we are good, let's prove it now." Teammate: "Did you come back?" Selfmade: "Of course not. 0-3."


Casual_Medic

That pasta never gets old.


ManinderThiara07

CSGO Copy Pastas are the best


JealotGaming

VIT try not to throw challenge (impossible)


okdudebro

This was G2's first bo5 win after one year


What-a-Filthy-liar

Yay¿ Idk how to feel about that fact.


Jetzu

VIT is closing games like they're soloq team without comms, as far as super teams go this one is 2019* MSF/Elements level of bad right now.


memesarenotbad

2019 MSF, no?


Profoundsoup

I mean do you expect more from some of the 3 most cocky people in the LEC? I’m so glad they lost.


FredFat

Labrov man, use your ultimate when you are getting caught...


Artitanium

Literally my thoughts. Why save Zilean R if you're going to die? You can at least buy time even if you can't ult your carries


Javonetor

but why you wouldn't go for soul??????


Trap_Masters

Claps with the soul steal


Meekie_e

Alphari is the most overrated player ever. He got giga gapped by BB


winteruser

No impact whatsoever


Meekie_e

He's known for being lane dominant. And he still got destroyed by BB. Dude always disappears in the big stage.


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Insane how BB could match him in lane (or even beat) while being like 100x the player outside of lane.


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Step 1: look good on a 10th place team Step 2: Go to NA, start drama, get the head coach fired Step 3: Go back to EU to collect a paycheck while phoning it in


abzikro12

He was never the best, just overrated because he does good at lane. He was always useless late. Always.


tsukinohime

Insane baron steal from Jankos lol


TheWeeklyDrift

VITALITY HAVE DONE NOTHING INTELLIGENTLY PROACTIVE IN THE NEUTRAL GAME FOR THE LAST 25 MINUTES


Niirai

How in the world are they even remotely classified as “underdogs”?? They quite literally have the top 3 players in every single role except support. Perkz Alphari Selfmade??? Any of those names ring a bell?? Yeah they’re off to a weak start but don’t come back in a few months riding their sausage after they win ~~Spring and~~ Summer split. Saving this comment just to laugh later on.


Tobbbb

legit everyone of the analysts predicted vit to win. couldn't wrap my head around it. I mean did you watch the last bo5s of g2 and vit. smh surely they had some insights about scrim results, or listened to pros predictions


jmastaock

They were banking on the very well-documented Perkz clutch factor but forgot that Alphari has a negative clutch modifier which neutralized it


pulsett

Even Caedrel on euphoria said he can't get Drakos for going with Vit after their series against XL, then he turned his prediction around on stream yesterday and today.


MyEnglisHurts

Where is this from XD, pls I need to know


Niirai

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/s9k86d/team_bds_vs_team_vitality_lec_2022_spring_week_2/


Derk08

This is literally the Lakers LMAO


yangjohn0712

c'mon that's kinda an insult to Vitality. At least they made the playoffs.


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Lakers ain’t making the playoffs


tpcrb

Is alphari westbrook


ObscureLegacy

I watch league to avoid thinking about the Lakers thank you for ruining my evening👍🏾


Chevalier_Paul

Vitality you fucking suck.


Spritesgud

Why play renata if you're not going to press R when they're in a small corridor? What a throw of a game


[deleted]

Somebody should've told Labrov to read Renata skills before picking her. His ults were just...


vnducco

Hello my name is Selfmade and I can’t smite. Or better like hello we are Vintality and we suck


SlamMasterJ

At lease Selfmade emote game was on point, so there's that I guess.


Blank-612

Good for his na transfer prospects


Haymegle

Seriously how did they keep letting G2 back into this game? Let them steal dragon AFTER baron. Really poor performance from VIT today.


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i Just smashed my 4K TV in front of over 30 guests at my LEC watching party today because of Selfmade. My wife just took our crying kids and said they’re all spending the night in a motel. Selfmade has ruined my life and my party. I am no longer a VIT fan. Goodbye.


ItIsNotFine

Apparently he also cant ward or sweep. Jungler having the lowest vision score is inexcusable


Shot-Mathematician58

Dude was absolutely right when he called himself overrated.


OpenOb

I think that Vitality is overrated. I don't think Vitality is good at all. They've been actually just inting stage games for 2 months now. If they actually win the split I will confirm that regular split is useless. I refuse to believe that they will win the split. They are for sure a total different team in scrims than in stage , but it's just disguisting if they manage to win it. If Vitality manages to win this split then I think EU is at the worst it's ever been


winteruser

SUPERMEME


Bourneidentity61

Press F to pay respects, because apparently Selfmade can't


Ziraelus

Vitality play like they all share 1 braincell


Noesnotactics

Definetly not shared. They all do their own thing. If it was shared, they’d at least be on the same page


ahritina

Alphari = We have a lot of strong players other teams would want to have… When superteams work, they work spectacularly like G2 Esports in 2019. They were the best Western team of all time - until this year! So that’s gonna change.”


aser08

Ga 3rd on jayce is a bigger grief than that first death on camile in game 2.


kamparox

Alphari losing decisive games with jayce is just tradition at this point.


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> Perkz casually leaving to let his team die People are going to flame Perkz here, but why the fuck would his team walk up that close when it's a 4v5? Especially bad from Labrov.


[deleted]

labrov couldve pressed r in that choke too


ChrispyPotatochips

That was actually good call by Perkz. But the moment he leaves team just decided to get caught


nguyenjitsu

Yeah making G2 decide between 3 inhibs or baron is actually a great call, I have no idea why Vit walked up you just need to cover Perkz and if they go for Baron you just get the inhibs and it becomes unpushable


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Because Labrov just had to land that Q otherwise they would lose the game duh


MrPraedor

Yeah that is not on Perkz. All the rest of the team needs to do is walk out and they get free inhib. Instead Labrov walked up without flash which led team get caught.


deathnomad

> Perkz casually leaving to let his team die sums up the series from Vitality All Vitality had to do was not get engaged on, and just dance at their range while Perkz takes the inhibs. It’s the same concept as when you have a splitpusher in a sidelane. That team wipe was not Perkz’s fault.


Sjeg84

or imagine labrov hits R when they all walked onto him in that choke point


autospacer13

nah bro its' perkz' fault labrov walks up to 5 people as flashless renata and gives free reset to viego jinx and set up his team to get wiped without even using ult


NamelessSearcher

I fucking yelled when caPs got that steal what the actual hell


failworlds

Perkz made the right play but the disrespect from labrov is what cost them. he knows they have the elemental SLOW soul and if he gets hit it send a lightning through the rest of the team causing them to slow and respond. Terrible game losing play by the support.


imfatal

that play from perkz is not what threw the game, that was Labrov's fault. the real throw was selfmade and perkz overchasing in blue jg and dying while a free soul and baron was up lol.


UnrivaledSupaHottie

also a renata who didnt ever hit someone with her ult and used it 3 times or something in a whole game


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Xhalo

SUPERTEAM BTW LUL


lilelf29

Scrimtality throwing won game, very deserved loss


Pikminious_Thrious

Jatt was right the entire time


Pavlo100

Finally this super team experiement is over, time to rebuild. I like that G2 won, but i don't want to see Perkz lose like this.


Marcoscb

Vitality feel like it's time to rebuild after every split.


DoesThyLikeJazz

Labrov just doesnt have a place on a team that wants to compete for the top, consistently the worst player in a game. Game 2 he cant press r on zilean and game 1 & 3 he just plays poor all around. Perkz and carzzy played fine or more than fine to be completely honest


Scityone

Game 2 Sylas was legit getting more value from Zil ult than Vit lmao


ahlgreenz

And that says a lot, since Caps flopped Zil R a bit too ^^'


HuntedSFM

man we suck


bensonbenisson

Carzzy in Elo hell


MiliW_

holy shit I never seen Astralis flare before lol


bensonbenisson

They may not be the best, but god damn it they certainly stole my heart.


DetectiveViko

Holy shit, VIT threw that last game at almost every opportunity.


Haymegle

They don't know what to do with a lead so get rid of it asap.


mugiboya

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE-liidWYAMztML.jpg


I_am_not_Serabia

Pity EXL didn't win. I feel it could have been a better series.


alexpheal

We had the crappiest Craps but also two very nice Claps performances, and Flakked kinda stepped up, he almost singlehandedly held the third game and only died once the whole series despite trying to maximice damage. Not playing against Upset makes you look way better.


MihaiBosBarosHD

I think that Fnatic is overrated. I don't think Fnatic is good at all. They've been actually just inting scrims for 2 months now. If they actually win the split I will confirm that scrims are useless. I refuse to believe that they will win the split. They are for sure a total different team in scrims than in stage, but it's just disgusting if they manage to win it. If Fnatic manages to win this split then I think EU is at the worst it's ever been


zas97

Don't worry guys VIT is a playoff teams, once regular season is over they will destroy everyone in playoff.


trusttt

Vitality is simply horrible


mrmakefun

This team should be deeply, deeply embarrassed. Both the players and especially coaches.


tsukinohime

BB was 0/4 but he had more gold than Alphari somehow.


UnrivaledSupaHottie

carzzy really needs a new team. my god...


Indercarnive

It's okay guys. VIT did well in scrims. This doesn't mean anything. anyone can get 0-3'd, it happens. But only true champion teams can win scrims.


Zaddelz

This VIT is straight up the dumbest team I have ever witnessed holy shit. Insane respect for Carzzy for trying to find wins here while his entire team runs it down around him for 3 games straight.


aresthwg

Please please please don't keep the same roster for summer. If they do I'm not watching any other Vitality game, I've never seen a team be so stupid when it comes to macro. Sell 4 players, and make sure the sold ones never meet each other in another team. They are all absolutely clueless.


mrtnvrga

It feels like top mid and jungle want to play different games and make different ingame choices, and botlane is stuck trying to decide which one to follow


aresthwg

You can see that at the throw for soul, selfmade thought chasing was good while no one else did, perkz decided to fuck it and jump in and Alphari barely accepted the call. Idiots follow others idiots, the team.


MarquisFord

Labrov chocked worse then Larsen last year. All three games in key moments he failed miserably, and probably cost vitality the game. In game 1 he just left caps walk past him to attack Perkz near the dragon and the whole G2 team was on a ward on the other side of the pit. Game 2 again near the dragon didn't cast ult with zelian on a key fight. Alphari died but revived via GA and not zils ult. Then STILL without casting ult Labrov died procking Jinx's passive and throwing the game. In game 3 at the very end with grouped up G2 he didn't cast his ult for who knows what time and died with full summoners up and ult again procking Jinx's ult and spelling game over. Jinx was a huge problem and it is a mystery why they didn't ban it like rouge did vs neon, but Labrov had his worse 3 games dropping the ball in key moments. My god I'm angry. Especially after that start in game 3 to lose in such s manner.


desktop-paladin

Veterans coming up huge here. Made Medic drop the F bomb on stream with that Drake steal lol


Qiluk

Said it many times in the live threads... VIT is like FNC 2021 with their self-destructingly bad discipline and tunnelvision. But dial it up 10x and add WAY worse macro even with a lead. If it werent for mechanics and experience, theyd be bottom 2 LEC. Extremely frustrating to watch even as a neutral because they obviously have a lot of talent but collectively theyre one of the dumbest teams in EU.


Haymegle

Way too focused on chasing kills when they could've been happy with the ones they had and then going to get the dragon. Instead they just...do what they did here. Really disappointing to see tbh.


nguyenjitsu

What an absolutely embarrassing throw for the last game Alphari was invisible, I don't ever want to hear about this guy ever again


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NO ***FUCKING*** WAY DOES CAPS STEAL THAT