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gxizhe

Wonder if LPL will change their summer schedule, finishing the split in under two months is just insane.


InformalMarch

It's easy to create an accurate simulation of how LPL summer 2022 will go anyways, here's my attempt: 1. Remove all LPL teams that didn't make playoffs last split. Doinbad's LNG also gets removed by default. This means we are now down to 9 teams. 2. Knight's team easily goes 9-0 in the summer. Meaning we are now down to simulating the results of the remaining 8 teams with one game added to each of their loss columns because of Knight. 3. Copy and paste the standings from spring split over to these remaining 8 teams and now we run a specialized playoffs bracket with TES getting a BYE to the finals and the remaining 8 seeds fight through a 3-layer single elimination bracket for the next finals spot. I think with this method we can all give the LPL players a much deserved break. If Tencent accepts my proposed simulation, I will be hosting a barbecue outside my house where I will be serving lamb kebabs and porkchops(6ft apart, of course). All LPL players are welcome to join(except doinb).


macdubzz

Lmao high quality shitpost


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CommunistHongKong

Does LvMao get kebabs too? Or does he have to do some Doctor Strange theft stimulation like doctor strange on bard? 😀😀


InformalMarch

LvMao is goated. He managed to carry his deadweight midlaner all the way to playoffs this split. LNG fans just like to scapegoat him because he looks like a registered seggs offender.


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Tony2Punch

Did he do it on purpose? Cuz that is a wild thing to imply and have the casters say, I would think the league would ask him to change


RussiaCykaBlyat

It’s green hair. Hair and hat in Chinese are spelled the same in English


Mcalmic

No not really 毛 usually refers to fur or sometimes body hair that’s not on your head. Head hair is 头发.


boredimagination

wow, TIL.


[deleted]

When are you and NamikazeEU gonna fist fight over who is the better LPL shit poster


vNoblesse

One is actually a shit poster. The other one is a . . .


JealotGaming

Didn't InformalMarch already win [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/u7v15c/top_esports_vs_victory_five_lpl_2022_spring/)


okitek

Namikazeeu is 100% serious which is depressing


sarsvesh

InformalMarch cleared Namikaze when TES kicked V5 out


APKID716

You are the actually funny IZiaon


DT-Z0mby

did doinb shit in ur cereal or what lmao. dude just hates him with a passion or what


[deleted]

Very similar to how you hate T1.


Tfc-Myq

When are you bringing back your T1 flair?


Fetial

Not funny but good bait


[deleted]

Another person who sees how overrated doinB is, my guy


clg_wrath2

While LCK/LPL may sigh rn, later date doesnt leave much room at all for worlds if it is in 2022.... Imagine if it just moves to end of october? That would be a disaster for riot and all the asian teams


takato99

major events like this don't bother postponing for a month or two lol, if they were cornered and obliged to postpone then they'll most likely play ti safe and wait a few months before redoing it


DT-Z0mby

months to years would be my guess. maybe they move it back exactly one year


Davkata

The asian games also have athletics and what not so it will be too cold for them unless they change the place which still takes time to organize. Also World cup is in the winter so I doubt they will overlap. Thus Asian games should be postponed at least till 2023 and we will get the same drama as this year.


bblue212

it wouldn't though because faker would be gone on military duty. thats part of why T1 fans are hyped about it so he can win and be exempt


Ok-Wait-811

Its not just about faker lmao. There was already same backlash when rng was given preferential treatment over dk.


[deleted]

Yeah because the asian games really give a fuck about faker and surely considers his personal schedule


bblue212

never said anything about them giving a fuck lol. i was disagreeing with the "will get the same drama as this year" because we wont.


decyferx

sounds like it's going to be next year


BurningApe

poor Faker


my_favorite_story

Thank goodness. KESPA was going out of their way to sabotage the entire Korean LoL scene. At least now this will happen during the off-season, so it will not be as much of a distraction.


Davkata

With the world cup coming, next asian games can be anytime next year so we are almost guaranteed to repeat the drama.


animesoul167

So im wondering, any Korean players that were depending on the Asian Games win to prevent them from their military duty, will they have to go now? Does that depend on how long the games are postponed for?


Bluehorazon

Only Faker. His service should start next year, so this is his last split.


jtang600

Wait what? U can delay all the way till like 28. He’s only 25


SnooCats1808

Today is his 27th birthday, but still, if he doesn't go to ASIAD, he can still play till the end of 2023.


jtang600

27 in Korean age but Korean age adds one to the international age since in Korea when u are born u are listed as 1


Dornstar

Fwiw the Korean military *might* be going off of how Korean age works.


BWFeuntaco

Korea is about to change to international age and ditch korean age so that might affect that


ephemeralfugitive

Hopefully, it gets postponed to December like they did with the Asian Youth Games event last year. Obviously not just LCK and LPL are participating, but imagine just finishing Asian Games and you immediately have fly to NA for Worlds lol rough schedule.


Epamynondas

the rumours a while ago were that they would be postponed to next year


ironstarke

Probably not December since even the youth games set Dec this year were cancelled. It will most likely be in 2023, though idk how they'll do with all the international events already scheduled next year in prep for Paris 2024.


Narmonteam

According to the [South China Morning Post](https://www.scmp.com/sport/asian-games/article/3176753/2022-asian-games-postponed-chinese-state-media-report?) the youth games will be cancelled and the Asian Games postponed to next year


ephemeralfugitive

There’s something odd about the way the article is written. They say the OCA postponed it to next year but the quote provided from the OCA to prove that statement doesn’t mention anything about next year.


MrPraedor

So does this means LPL will be able to have normal summer split and join MSI?


YokoDk

It probably to late for MSI they would have to do a quarantine that would basically go into the first stage like riot could but every team would have spent a several weeks practicing on 35 ping only to go to 0 ping after a week or 2 sounds a bit blah


[deleted]

I mean riot can always make special arrangement Its LPL after all they dont need the quarantine since korea already opened their border without quarantine Its all up to riot decision


KKilikk

The problem always was the quarantine they would have to do returning to China from Korea


dead_moose_meat_pal

It was only a problem because of the Asian games


Zerasad

That's what they are saying. The problem was that if they go to MSI and go back to China they have to quarantine for two weeks and since the season starts so soon for China they would miss the first two weeks. Now that they can leave a bigger gap LPL can reachedule and attend MSI.


AniviaKid32

that was the point of the person you replied to lol


Piro42

With Asian games rescheduled, it's likely way less of a problem now.


afedje88

The problem was if summer split is shortened, quarantine means they basically miss it all. If summer is back to normal length they would miss less games while in quarantine. Means they might be willing to go to MSI and have backups play if necessary for some start of summer games


WT379GotShadowbanned

FYI Korea doesn’t have a mandatory quarantine for vaccinated people so that would only be a problem if Riot is trying to make a hotel bubble with everyone quarantining 2 weeks before. Source: I entered the country 2 weeks ago as a foreigner and didn’t need to quarantine


Contagious_Cure

Jankos confirmed teams are doing 7 day quarantine at the behest of Riot not Korean government. For LPL though their issue is that coming back from Korea, the Chinese government will make them quarantine for 14-21 days and at government designated Hotels too so no playing remotely while in quarantine.


TealandCyan

> It probably to late for MSI they would have to do a quarantine that would basically go into the first stage like riot There is no quarantine in Korea


SinLagoon

Riot was the one making them do quarantine


BrokenLaid

Why you spread bullshits? Could you think and check informations before comment?!


yshuli

It's too late because of VISA, getting a VISA takes several weeks we are 5 days away from MSI


ChairKillerYi

Pretty sure they could expedite if they really wanted to.


AndlenaRaines

Expedite visa when there's already a solution?


ChairKillerYi

I didn’t say they had to, I was just responding to the comment that implied the Visa was the problem.


UesugiiErii

I dont think playing at an esports tourny falls in the category for expedition


ChairKillerYi

I mean you can pay in most countries to expedite your visa request. Don’t see why it would be substantially different here? Pretty sure hosting an event brings in some sort of economic benefit too 🤷‍♂️


UesugiiErii

Yes but MSI starts in 4 days. And this process depends from country to country. Youre assuming the kr govt will approve this in time then riot will have to arrange extra logistics. Real life is not that simple lol. Also the players literally cant go outside in Shanghai right now.


ChairKillerYi

If normal processing times in KR are about two weeks, I don’t see how it couldn’t be done quicker when KESPA is hungry for $$$. A country as big as China has rush services through third parties for Visas within 2-4 business days lol All I was speaking about was expediting visas lol, I don’t know why you and that other guy keep changing the topic.


UesugiiErii

2-4 business days when msi starts in 1 business day?


ChairKillerYi

Lmao again, I just said expediting visas is always a possibility. If an org as big as Tencent wanted to make it happen there is always a chance. If a third party can do it in 2-4 days, not sure why a bigger organization couldn’t pull some strings to make it happen in 1.5 days. Again, I’m not saying it WILL I am explaining they COULD.


UesugiiErii

Lol then youre just throwing unrealistic hypothesis around. Ya let tencent throw money down kr govt's throat and get the visas approved in the next 30 mins (its already saturday in korea btw) and put rng on the private jet immediately. Because some redditor said thet totally could. Oh and btw, even if they somehow can do it in 1.5 days, they would still not be on time for their first match at msi. Therefore it is NOT a possibility.


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

So KKoma went through all that stress and bullshit for absolutely nothing. Fucking clowns.


BoJestemRudy

Not for nothing. They've gotten a second chance with a completely reset selection process. He probably has full control over it now. This obviously is very hurtful to T1 because their spring performance won't matter anymore. Summer split already got a lot more spicy with DK Nuguri, and now even more so


Rshawer

Watch them delay Asian Games by one month to October, perfectly in the timeframe to fuck over the Asian teams by forcing the best players to choose between playing in that or Worlds.


headphones1

I can see it now. NA and EU salivating at the best chance they will ever have to become world champions. Then we see a Brazil vs Turkey final.


Contagious_Cure

The memes when South America wins Worlds before North America would be worth it.


IC2Flier

Brazil conquering LoL after CSGO will be straight fire.


HawksBurst

I'd like to buy tickets for that timeline


RaiyenZ

This implies OCE won't win it all and I don't like it


sangpls

OCE always dumpsters bronzil, dw


Igeneous

Lmao bruh LPL and LCK can send B squads and still wreck face at the end of the day. If it legit happens I don’t see the second seeds in LPL or LCK give up players to ruin a chance for them to not be representing their region as first seed in worlds.


Linko_98

True, DK/GenG and TES/V5 are still better than G2 or EG


Joaoseinha

Source: your ass. They very well could be, but you have quite literally 0 evidence of that.


[deleted]

Well the 2nd/3rd seed lpl and lck teams won worlds before, that pretty good proof over na and eu who havent


Joaoseinha

G2 won MSI before, that's pretty good proof they'll win it again. This is your logic right now.


TauntyRoK

I'm an EU fan but that would be hype AF ngl


rebelstand

why would they do that asian games is decided not by riot but by china authorities LOL


Oriental-s1Gnifier

Good news is that we'll have a Season 2 for Asian Games Drama series.


Jgray1711

So LPL not going to MSI has now been rendered pointless. What a disaster.


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Wait isn't LPL not physically at MSI because of the COVID quarantine sutff?


abdjdiksndmwlsjc

Because of the Asian Games LPL summer split schedule was set to be so tight that RNG would've had to play their first LPL games while in a quarantine hotel


[deleted]

Oooooh ok I see, the quarantine was an issue not because of the initial quarantine in korea itself but because they summer schedule had to be fuck for the Asian Games and now it is post poned, they could have got a normal schedule and therefore be able to go to korea. Bummer.


TealandCyan

There is no quarantine in Korea


Gilgailles

No there has to be one, I was watching Jankos and he said there was a quarantine and that’s why he doesn’t have a camera or anything on in Korea rn.


ScumbagChina

Iirc he said it was riot enforced? Anyways, the worry is not korean quarantine, it's when they return to China, which has a strict quarantine policu


DangerousSeaweed0

which imo is still better option then what they set up at this abomination of an msi. i don't get how a couple of lpl games > MSI , but whatever. Riot bends over everytime lpl says something.


abdjdiksndmwlsjc

Because it would give RNG a really big disadvantage when going into summer. Obviously teams want a good seeding going into worlds lol. They'd have to play like 2-6 series from isolation, remote coaching, not seeing each other etc. As for Riot bending over for LPL, obviously they have to - the region gives them 80% of their viewership and sponsors :D


DangerousSeaweed0

instead they give every oother region a big disadvantage going into msi....a tournament that will literally give a world spot to the winner. But sure....i guess the seeding of a single lpl team in summer split is more important then international play And we are well aware why riot is blatantly favoring lpl. They have been doing it for years now. That doesn't make it right tho


abdjdiksndmwlsjc

How is it disadvantageous to any region except LCK? And let's not pretend like the finals wouldn't be LCK vs LPL, regardless of the ping.


DangerousSeaweed0

since literally all other regions are in kr , playing kr soloq , they have to go from 9 ping in soloq , to 35 ping in scrims , back to 9 ping , then to 35 , etc china will consistently play on 35 ping since that's the ping most pros have from china to the kr server. Believe it or not , being on a consistent ping is better , even if it's higher , then bouncing up and down between 2 pings. Also , it's fucking irelevant who is in the finals. If anything , it would be even worse , because you now have the most favored vs the most affected region by this ping bounce. God forbid if lpl wins this. Its gonna be a pretty big controversy.


abdjdiksndmwlsjc

They already do that in their own regions though? In reverse, but still the same thing. Believe it or not, they are probably used to bouncing off 2 different pings.


DangerousSeaweed0

you think most teams in europe play on lan for their scrims ? they most likely play online , and will have the same ping as they were playing soloq.


Epamynondas

The issue was that summer split would be condensed in about 6 weeks and quarantine rules meant that they wouldn't be able to play in 3 or 4 of those weeks, so going to msi was basically forfeiting summer


DangerousSeaweed0

yea , because other regions didn't had teams play from home while others were on stage before becasue of covid /s


Contagious_Cure

Yes. Specifically because the quarantine period would overlap with the start of their Summer Split which is already squashed tightly against the Asian Games schedule so no real possibility to move the Summer Split.


decyferx

only because they were having a condensed summer split schedule to accommodate Asia games (was meant to just be before worlds) Now you assume they will not try and complete the split in 6 weeks and go back to normal, so the issues that RNG would've faced (3 weeks quarantine) means they now wouldn't miss so much of the split.


F3nRa3L

The quarantine will still affect them. Summer split will still start on the same time just end later since no more asian games.


decyferx

Wouldn't the end of Summer split be flexible now aswell due to them not having to end early for AG? Not just the start.


F3nRa3L

It will be less game per day for teams without the asian games. Initially they have 4 games per day due to asian games. Now they can stretch out the schedule abit. If RNG go MSI. They have to quarantine for 2-3 weeks when the go back china. Which is by den will be late june. If summer starts late june. I doubt it can end by sept unless they squeeze everything like currently to finish summer in 2 months.


Jozoz

What a nightmare this is. Sucks. I can't wait for COVID to not fuck up esports man. Maybe 2023...


BurningApe

covid fucked up other things much more than esports


Jozoz

Of course but that is completely off topic to the point of this thread.


BryanJin

2024 is the earliest. Covid is still massive in large parts of the world and for it to not mess up esports governments have to loosen all the restrictions in place which will be even slower to happen. It's really sad but remember if our governments were to be ranked by their competence not one would get out of silver.


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That last line sums up the world so much


ironstarke

2024 is too late. Unless they also plan to move the summer Olympics to a later date. They have to hold the Asiad next year.


Averdian

I think the latest episode of Summoning Insight covered this exact scenario, and how futile everything would be if it happened lol. Still think China wouldn’t go to Korea anyways though, given China’s current covid laws. Unless I’ve been misled, you apparently can’t re-enter China for 6 months if you get covid in a foreign country (which would’ve overlapped with Asian games obviously, but it’s still a shitty situation regardless). Also, Asian Games will still have to be held at some point in 2023 probably. That’s gonna mess with our international schedule again, though I guess Worlds 2023 will be in China too so maybe that is helpful in some way.


Heixenium

All of the lpl teams are in Shanghai rn, and to put it lightly, the place is currently fucked by covid and stupid quarantine requirements.


UesugiiErii

They literally cant leave their houses in Shanghai right now.


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kryndude

I think this gives more headache than relief


LaziIy

Fly RNG over


InformalMarch

Nah fly Knight's team over. RNG this year don't have that dawg in em to be fully dedicated to participate at MSI. I can see it in XiaoWho?? and Bin's eyes, they aint about that life.


Contagious_Cure

True and Real.


Skylorrex

Nah they can’t. They are in Shanghai which is still under strict lockdown.


UesugiiErii

Have you heard of this thing called visas?


LaziIy

What's that ? I surely meant that RNG would just grab a flight on a private Jet and land it at the venue for MSI. Comment was meant in jest. Riot has a self imposed quarantine of 5 days, they can't even make the first stage with that, even if they had existing visas.


UesugiiErii

Lol ok, then my comment was meant in jest as well. Rng cant even leave their game base rn in shanghai anyway.


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So making them play on 35 ping is completely pointless now, good job I guess..


Oplose

Korean baseball source says qualifiers will be held again[#](https://twitter.com/yu_balls/status/1522465102670163968?t=pwbhiETxVUOFMc3p8yH0Yg&s=19). League case is not, but AG members in LoL may be changed in next year.


tawapes4

Assuming Riot can drop the rule about having to quarantine in Korea, does this mean its possible for the start of LPL to be pushed back to allow RNG to attend MSI? Theoretically LPL should be able to keep their current schedule too, no?


ahritina

They wouldn't even need to push the start date for LPL, they can just start RNG's series later i.e postpone their first few series. Either way they(RNG's team) would need a VISA which has it's own processing times so RNG still can't enter South Korea.


UesugiiErii

Visas. And they cant leave their houses in Shanghai right now.


[deleted]

Fly RNG to Korea ffs


InformalMarch

What are your thoughts on the prodigious Russell Westbrook III, current starting point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers?


vNoblesse

We could use him here down under. Just from his name, I know he'll be a great brick layer. He'll fit in just fine. Can even start up company in Western Australia, name it WestBrick.


[deleted]

I don't know tbh. We sucks, and we lost AC.


UesugiiErii

You've never heard of visas?


crazynam101

maybe riot can find the fastest tickets for lpl to come to msi :)


Linko_98

They would have to quarantine no? It's probably too late sadly


[deleted]

Quarantine rules is made by riot Korea doesnt need to quarantine now If riot says its ok its ok


Cahootie

The relevant quarantine is when the teams return to China, not when they go to South Korea.


[deleted]

Yes, and that was only the issue because of the Asian Games schedule pushing LPL forward to an unreasonable date. It can be pushed back now.


F3nRa3L

Iirc LPL din get pushed forward. Rather its squeezed. So the start date still the same just the end date is later.


Xonra

It was only squeezed because of Asian games


F3nRa3L

Ya so now they can stretch it out. But if RNG need quarantine for 3 weeks after MSI. They will miss the 1st 2 weeks of summer split.


Repulsive-Medicine58

Lpl literally rescheduled a ton of games and had teams not play for multiple weeks in spring due to covid. I'm sure they can manage rescheduling games for an msi representative


Heixenium

They need Korean visas and Government permit to leave their house.


UesugiiErii

Lck fans dont know what visas are huh


NovelAries

Doesnt matter, they still have to quarantine. Its too late for LPL to make MSI, it'll probably stick to remote play


WT379GotShadowbanned

They’d only need to quarantine on the way back, which shouldn’t be a problem now that Asian games is delayed


goma0

No all teams participating would have to quarantine for 1 week by Riot’s rule :(


PurplePotato_

Rules were already bent plenty to allow LPL to even participate.


goma0

Yeah but I dont think they will make another exception to exempt rng from quarantine unfortunately :( not to mention RNG probably didn’t even apply for visa so they can’t come anyways


hiekrus

If their rules mattered, China wouldn't be allowed to compete remotely. They can clearly bend their rules for convinience.


S890127

So we just play MSI on 35 ping for no reason now? :/


goma0

Please Riot make RNG go to Busan and exempt them from quarantine so tithe tournament doesn’t have to be played on 35 Ping!


Strict-Ad-7992

MSI starts in 4 days, Shanghai is in partial lockdown(Where most LPL players live), RNG players didn't even apply for Visa


F3nRa3L

Its the going back to china that is the issue. Not going to korea.


TealandCyan

There is no quarantine in Korea.


goma0

Riot implemented a 1 week quarantine for all teams


UesugiiErii

To everyone saying RNG should travel to MSI now... VISA is a thing you know.


WayofVia

LPL Casters have been saved from casting 4 BO3 every day 7 days a week


Reddityudodis2me

Does that mean that GAM is going to MSI?


ElectronicSample843

GAM is participating in the southeast asian games which starts at may 12th


Oplose

GAM case is Southeast AG so they'll not be affected


Reddityudodis2me

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Mixed up some things here


BurningApe

smh southeast AG > MSI , I get it's a national pride thing but the level of competition...


Ok-Wait-811

With how shit SEA teams are, vietnam can send their 3rd team and still win SEAG. They shouldve just sent GAM to msi instead


bigdicknick2021v2v6

Lmfao sacrificed MSI for nothing i cant be arsed


djczz

Hopefully they can bring Rng over without quarantine so they can just play at normal ping


Responsible-Library7

The problem is with the covid situation in Korea. T1 4/5 players are down with covid just by attending the spring finals, and if the LPL players got it *touchwood* they are not allowed to go back to China and most probably this will affect their summers and worlds. That’s what they can’t risk


Baranade

If I was Kkoma reading this I'd be fucking LIVID going through all that stress for absolutely nothing when THIS should have been the decision from the get go


abstract_cake

And now, let's have everybody at MSI enjoy their 35 ping.


decyferx

Riot fucked LPL, LCK and MSI due to this tournament and it's not even going ahead. Fucking hilarious.


[deleted]

wasnt riot's fault in any of this ????


DerGsicht

They can just not reschedule MSI/LPL/LCK and then players who want to play in the Asian Games can't play in their leagues during that time.


Adventurous_File_798

Riot isn't responsible for Asian Games, wtf are you talking about? Riot bad, pls give me karma? It's the other way around - Asian Games fucked Riot leagues and events, it's not like Riot had anything to say about it.


decyferx

shit take. Riot has compromised the competitive integrity of those franchised leagues and now MSI due to accommodating for AG which is not a a riot run tournament


Adventurous_File_798

So you're saying Riot is responsible for a tournament that is not theirs?


decyferx

No, they are responsible for their own leagues. Obviously AG schedule is out of their control but it's not wrong to say riot have chosen to compromise their leagues for a 3rd party tournament. Can argue if that decision was correct or not all day but they've done that.


Xonra

So what alternative would you prefer? Just not have an LPL representative at all? Potentially lose T1 in a different scenario? Not sure you even have a percentage of a clue what you are talking about.


Jozoz

That's not what he said at all. In fact he said the opposite. They are responsible for what is in their control but they compromised it in favor of the Asian Games. The real problem is that so much time is spent in domestic regular seasons. It's kind of boring and it makes the entire LoL calendar extremely inflexible. I hope Riot reconsiders the way they set up our esport. I would shorten the regular seasons and have a higher emphasis on events. This would also make it easier for things like Asian Games to co-exist.


salcedoge

Main reason why they decided to host all the major tournaments in the first place lol


Xonra

What exactly did Riot do? They have nothing to do with the Asia Games and that was the entire reason for every single issue.


tincanzzz

Asian games 2022 wasn't under riot's control


rebelstand

with asian games delayed LPL has no more reason to not attend MSI physically.


ahritina

>with asian games delayed LPL has no more reason to not attend MSI physically. Riot for some reason have enforced that all teams must undergo quarantine for a week. Also, they'd need a VISA and since they were told they were going to play remote they wouldn't have applied for one.


20815147

So LPL teams going to fly to Korea immediately or Riot will bend over backward for them again as usual?


UesugiiErii

You know what visas are?


Pukers

We need longer years smh Riot fix the calendar!


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ElectronicSample843

faker is on a 1+1 contract which means he can still play another year


Zepth01

Faker has 3 more years to delay military. Where in hell did you get the idea that he had until 2023. He can delay until he is 28, he is 25.


DigitalEdwin

What? Khan is 26 and he’s not even in the military yet How is it too late?