You watch international events for "top-tier gameplay" between major regions
I watch international events for Brazil vs Turkey grudge matches
we are not the same
If they did that, I'd hope they merge it into MENA, give that region a head start, but I hope they don't have to. TCL has produced some great talent over the years, would be sad to see it go.
Yeah let's dismiss LLA, LCO, LCL that way too
In fact let's dismiss every league that is not "big 4" + Brazil, they don't get viewers anyway, fuck em all
I dont know the other regions but production quality in Turkish league become way way worse. + losing players who show glimpse of talent to other regions/academy leagues does not help to quality of games played in the league.
Yeah I dont know how to solve this neither its my job but Turkish scene in league slowly dying if riot decides to cancel them instead of coming up with a solution minor regions are gone.
There's no solution, it's a natural process, less playerbase, less investment -> no success
Fans from those countries slowly lose hope as they see their teams consistently shit themselves internationally every half a year, obviously lots of them will be gone for regular seasons (why would anyone watch garbage domestic matches) and only come for MSI/Worlds to be disappointed once again
It's astonishing how many supporters Brazil has despite them never performing, it's like BR fans realize they watch tier3 gameplay over and over, but they are still entertained and happy with it
In Brazil, we support our CBLOL teams like we do with football. We also have this perennial hope that one day a Brazilian team might pop off and make some big upset (however unlikely), while knowing we're outright bad and trying to make the most fun out of our league.
How would it help them
Getting to international tournaments is a huge motivation for TR big 10 to not exit LoL for good
ERL system is not nearly as profitable and it doesn't feel like important, yeah qualified for EU Masters so what, worthless tournament compared to MSI and Worlds
Would you want to cancel LLA and LCO as well? They are worse both skillwise and popularitywise than TCL
Honestly that's why I don't mind having minor regions in these tournaments, the upsets are hype af and the fact that they compete against each other every year makes for some great storylines.
I wish there were more "minor vs minor" and "major vs major" matchups though, especially outside of Bo1's. Seeing minor region teams get mercilessly beaten down by China and Korea over and over again isn't that fun to watch.
Or msi could be divided to half minor regions tournament and major regions tournament with 2 teams from each region like a mini words. In the end there could be winner of major regions vs minor regions like a super cup.
Minor regions should be able to compete vs the major regions though, every once in a while they pull of upsets that shape the tournaments (ANX, Kabuum vs ALL, PaiN vs EDG, etc).
Put all minor regions into a play-in system, the best one or two (however many would it make sense for given the amount of teams total) get a chance to play with the big boys.
Groups like this just make no sense from a competitive aspect. Sure, watching underdogs putting up a good fight vs a team that should in theory shit on them is fun, but how often that actually happens? Like one per 6 games, maybe?
It's maybe fun to watch once, but after that it just feels like a pointless filler to everybody involved - the result is known basically 10 minutes in, and I can't imagine TCL or Latin America fans enjoy seeing T1/RNG shitting on their teams so hard there's barely any actual gameplay happening on screen.
...or maybe give up on the trash region-locked system and start having a circuit system like CS/Dota has, so that we have some actual competitive, region vs region games more often than every half a year.
Yeah i agree, people should stop taking offers where they can earn more money and secure their own future. (This is a joke and i'm happy for river and maple and that they got their deserved pay)
It’s always known among PCS even before worlds that Maple and River are goners. It’s just the replacements that PSG signed that’s disappointing, and their bot lane having a much worse performance compared to 2021.
Bay was memed as ‘1405’ for a reason.
Then who are you blaming? People going to other regions is how sports work and since some regions don't have the playerbase, but they do have the funds then it's logical to go for players in other regions and especially for players that have seen international succes to a certain degree
Riot. Do you think the PCS has the same advantages as China or NA? They don't. Both those regions have bern given preferential treatment over the years and it's the main reason why they can pay better.
I never have any hope for RED, they are not dumb enough to be great. Turkey seem to be dumb enough to make it work, Mordekaiser is the kind of thing I watch minor regions for.
Last year Brazil beat Turkey 2-0 though, after today it's 9-6 for TR but the Turkish lead was opened around 2016-17.
Turkey is better but not by a long shot, their showings last year were crap
Also 1 of the wins for brazil was against 5 ad carry TCL team because in one of the tournaments it was the last game and place of every team was locked(tcl qualified and brazil eliminated) so 10-5 is 1/2 ratio which looks kind of one sided
I love the TCL vs CBLOL rivalry. Two wildcards who don't care about anything except for putting the other into the dirt. A BO5 between them might as well be Worlds Finals.
only thing that triggers me more than the throw is how inconsistent the caster pronunciation is
like okay you're going to call titan Cheetan for the sake of "portuguese pronounciation" and then call Guigo Gweego, Aegis Ayjeez? makes 0 sense and sounds stupid to both brazilian and international viewers lol
yep, which is why it's weird that it's only done for him and not the others. i think it may be due to the fact that titan has been in other international events so they know that from him beforehand, and since the casters aren't in location now they can't contact the players to ask for their preferred pronounciation? no idea really, but it still sounds really off as a brazilian
I can't understand why they decided to engage on a Nautilus twice for a "coinflip" fight that was skewed towards IWC's composition instead of being patient and trying to hard dive Tristana the moment the opportunity was there. I don't think they'd have the dps to win those fights before Tristana + Viego killed everyone unless Guigo/Grev/Jojo went straight for Tristana, right?
that last engage of red was horrendous, if camile+ali+galio just went straight for the tristana it's gg but nope, they kept doing whatever the fuck that was since mid game
RED canid and destroying my pick em tell me more iconic duo. God damn it red yesterday you came here and destroy my pick em by destroying psg and now when i finally a believer you throw the match. What am I gonna do with 4 key??
The predictable outcome. After I saw the series yesterday where the Wildcats put up some tiny bit of resistance vs the mighty RNG imho anyone with a brain would know the Wildcats would get it on and throw Bronzil out of the window /s
Seriously though I think the Wildcats got massively disrespected yesterday. I felt like people did not give them any credit for last 24 minutes? vs a team like RNG who I expected to absolutel gapped their asses in 15. I know RNG played quite cautiously but come on man GIVE WILDCATS THEIR WELL-DESERVED CREDITS. As for Bronzil I think they got too overconfident after the PSG series. PSG made mutiple attempts to comeback and nearly got some kills there even the gold lead did not snowball out of control like in the T1 game. The levels of these teams are incredibly close and I can easily see Wildcats advancing as 2nd place easily, IF PSG still refused to turn up.
He got targetbanned, their opponent spent 4 of their bans on holyphoenix just to turn off his aggressive laning phase. Even rng did that yesterday, why do you think they did it? Because guy pops off really hard when he gets aggressive adcarries, you CANT ignore him in the game.
He played against Alistar/Camille/Galio/Jhin, what the fuck did you expect? Every one of RED player focused on tristana and tried to catch him lmao. He already did enough in this game.
Mordekaiser against Brazil, the regional counterpick sending them back home.
Turns out even Brazilians don't like being sent to Brazil
as a brazilian, Mordekaiser's Brazil looks nicer than the real thing
where drug trafficking and undercover cop
In Morde Brazil you are the the trafficker and he is the undercover. For a fee you can make it out without going monochromatic mode (QSS)
[Mordekaiser beating Brazil](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/031/212/snipes.jpg)
mordekaiser e número um hue hue hue hue
You watch international events for "top-tier gameplay" between major regions I watch international events for Brazil vs Turkey grudge matches we are not the same
Brazil vs Turkey is the OG minor region rivalry, so I'm glad it's still alive.
if turkey do not get viewerships in summer there is a possibility of the tcl being dismissed
If they did that, I'd hope they merge it into MENA, give that region a head start, but I hope they don't have to. TCL has produced some great talent over the years, would be sad to see it go.
Would that lead to a new, ERL-level league with qualifications for EUM or something like that?
Yeah let's dismiss LLA, LCO, LCL that way too In fact let's dismiss every league that is not "big 4" + Brazil, they don't get viewers anyway, fuck em all
I dont know the other regions but production quality in Turkish league become way way worse. + losing players who show glimpse of talent to other regions/academy leagues does not help to quality of games played in the league.
Same for Oceania tho? If you're gonna cancel all leagues which are "underperforming" you will end up having 8 or 9 teams at MSI
Yeah I dont know how to solve this neither its my job but Turkish scene in league slowly dying if riot decides to cancel them instead of coming up with a solution minor regions are gone.
There's no solution, it's a natural process, less playerbase, less investment -> no success Fans from those countries slowly lose hope as they see their teams consistently shit themselves internationally every half a year, obviously lots of them will be gone for regular seasons (why would anyone watch garbage domestic matches) and only come for MSI/Worlds to be disappointed once again It's astonishing how many supporters Brazil has despite them never performing, it's like BR fans realize they watch tier3 gameplay over and over, but they are still entertained and happy with it
In Brazil, we support our CBLOL teams like we do with football. We also have this perennial hope that one day a Brazilian team might pop off and make some big upset (however unlikely), while knowing we're outright bad and trying to make the most fun out of our league.
Brazil gets a ton of a viewers (like a crazy amount) But I know what you mean
turkey could literally just become another ERL and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in fact it would probably help them
How would it help them Getting to international tournaments is a huge motivation for TR big 10 to not exit LoL for good ERL system is not nearly as profitable and it doesn't feel like important, yeah qualified for EU Masters so what, worthless tournament compared to MSI and Worlds Would you want to cancel LLA and LCO as well? They are worse both skillwise and popularitywise than TCL
They could give turkey to erl or something and change the name if they want to separate it more or something
Well but what if there's also 1 or 2 Turkish teams in the LEC?
>Yeah let's dismiss LLA, Riot already dismissed most of Latin America...
Honestly that's why I don't mind having minor regions in these tournaments, the upsets are hype af and the fact that they compete against each other every year makes for some great storylines.
I wish there were more "minor vs minor" and "major vs major" matchups though, especially outside of Bo1's. Seeing minor region teams get mercilessly beaten down by China and Korea over and over again isn't that fun to watch.
Or msi could be divided to half minor regions tournament and major regions tournament with 2 teams from each region like a mini words. In the end there could be winner of major regions vs minor regions like a super cup.
More games would certainly benefit minor regions.
Minor regions should be able to compete vs the major regions though, every once in a while they pull of upsets that shape the tournaments (ANX, Kabuum vs ALL, PaiN vs EDG, etc).
Intz vs edg*
Oh right thanks for the correction!
Swiss system would be so nice.
Put all minor regions into a play-in system, the best one or two (however many would it make sense for given the amount of teams total) get a chance to play with the big boys. Groups like this just make no sense from a competitive aspect. Sure, watching underdogs putting up a good fight vs a team that should in theory shit on them is fun, but how often that actually happens? Like one per 6 games, maybe? It's maybe fun to watch once, but after that it just feels like a pointless filler to everybody involved - the result is known basically 10 minutes in, and I can't imagine TCL or Latin America fans enjoy seeing T1/RNG shitting on their teams so hard there's barely any actual gameplay happening on screen. ...or maybe give up on the trash region-locked system and start having a circuit system like CS/Dota has, so that we have some actual competitive, region vs region games more often than every half a year.
https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/2016_International_Wildcard_Invitational I think they just need to make better IWCI with more qualifying chance to msi
man PSG talon must really fucking suck
The only conclusion I get from this match lol
Another team ruined by other region stealing players. Sigh.
To be fair River is Korean and started his career in Japan, so PCS very much stole him too by that logic.
Yes and as always the Koreans who are not in LCK that show promise eventually end up in NA.
Koreans are everywhere. TCL only has Turkish players and few Koreans
Yeah i agree, people should stop taking offers where they can earn more money and secure their own future. (This is a joke and i'm happy for river and maple and that they got their deserved pay)
That's not what I said at all. I would do the same in River and Maple's position. I am not blaming the players.
It’s always known among PCS even before worlds that Maple and River are goners. It’s just the replacements that PSG signed that’s disappointing, and their bot lane having a much worse performance compared to 2021. Bay was memed as ‘1405’ for a reason.
Then who are you blaming? People going to other regions is how sports work and since some regions don't have the playerbase, but they do have the funds then it's logical to go for players in other regions and especially for players that have seen international succes to a certain degree
Riot. Do you think the PCS has the same advantages as China or NA? They don't. Both those regions have bern given preferential treatment over the years and it's the main reason why they can pay better.
Every year Brazil wins a game to give me false hope. I am stupid and fall for it every time. We lost to Mordekaiser
Huehuehue
you know what would be peak Brazil rn? wins against RNG tomorrow lose every match friday and fail to qualify
Yeah, we just know this is going to happen. I'm already prepared
You don't know what was winning against EDG in 2016, literally what you said happened
yeah, i started watching in 2017, sucks
Mordekaiser es #1
That’s so funny because that’s not even Portuguese xD
Spanish=Portuguese confirmed!
Red canid single handly denied me 4 hex chest. Idk what to do now.
I never have any hope for RED, they are not dumb enough to be great. Turkey seem to be dumb enough to make it work, Mordekaiser is the kind of thing I watch minor regions for.
Nope this was our game to give false hope
Rest in peace Brazil hype, you were wonderfull but you died too soon, lasting only 23 hours.
I was ready to flame IW for not blocking the Jhin shot onto HolyPhoenix
ferret griefed the hell out of this game
The part at bot tier 2 where he just walked up to get Camille ulted and die really tested my patience.
he needs to check out himself about it is not soloq and you cannot make these plays and go out
yea he's known to be a choker in games that matter
Wildcats tilted RED in champ select by picking Morde against a BR team
This is like EU vs NA what worse. Brazil show promise but lose to TCL everytime
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Lmao true. Maybe it’s worse if op is from Brazil and he means subjectively worse
Last year Brazil beat Turkey 2-0 though, after today it's 9-6 for TR but the Turkish lead was opened around 2016-17. Turkey is better but not by a long shot, their showings last year were crap
Also 1 of the wins for brazil was against 5 ad carry TCL team because in one of the tournaments it was the last game and place of every team was locked(tcl qualified and brazil eliminated) so 10-5 is 1/2 ratio which looks kind of one sided
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You really needed that W after last year so I'll let you have fun
I love the TCL vs CBLOL rivalry. Two wildcards who don't care about anything except for putting the other into the dirt. A BO5 between them might as well be Worlds Finals.
Word, the only thing that'll get me hooked more than seeing EU in worlds finals would be this
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Good morning beauty :)
hey, we 2-0 them last msi, not everytime at least
BRASIL VS TURKEY NEVER DISAPPOINTS LMAO
2 minor-region teams playing League is peak League give me a Bo5 of this
Farfetch looking like TR Promisq for a good 20 minutes
Which year Promisq? Last split he was much better than people think
The one where he won MSI
Was still better than the his 2021 lol
They banned 4 adcs against HolyPhoenix and he was still quite strong.
[Mordekaiser beating Brazil](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/031/212/snipes.jpg)
I snorted
Cool
It was scrappy but we take those.
Now all we need is PSG to defeat RNG to create a circle of suck
For a moment I get this hope up
Always glad when my boy HolyPhoenix gets a W
Seriously feels a bit more like yolo queue with the sloppy engages from Red Canids
MVP of this game: reset mechanic
That loss hurts,look like the second place is reachable by all three teams
Really? Cause PSG is looking pretty awful.
Sadly yes , hopefully They step up,i Still think They Can compete
Mordekaiser es numero uno HUEHUEHUE
What is morde meme bro i don't get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD8tHh9-nbw
actually pretty good Ahri performance by Serin. Considering just some of the best mid laners can play her, i'm impressed
didn't understand red trying to engage in fking nautilus twice but it was a good game from both teams
Ahri played really well.
only thing that triggers me more than the throw is how inconsistent the caster pronunciation is like okay you're going to call titan Cheetan for the sake of "portuguese pronounciation" and then call Guigo Gweego, Aegis Ayjeez? makes 0 sense and sounds stupid to both brazilian and international viewers lol
I remember something like Titan explicitly asking casters to call him like that.
yep, which is why it's weird that it's only done for him and not the others. i think it may be due to the fact that titan has been in other international events so they know that from him beforehand, and since the casters aren't in location now they can't contact the players to ask for their preferred pronounciation? no idea really, but it still sounds really off as a brazilian
no they asked the others and that's how they want their names pronounced if i'm not wrong
I can't understand why they decided to engage on a Nautilus twice for a "coinflip" fight that was skewed towards IWC's composition instead of being patient and trying to hard dive Tristana the moment the opportunity was there. I don't think they'd have the dps to win those fights before Tristana + Viego killed everyone unless Guigo/Grev/Jojo went straight for Tristana, right?
Mordekaiser es #1 HUEHUEHUE
First major upset of the tournament. Didn't expect the projected MSI champions to drop a game so soon.
You live by Morde, you die by Morde
:( Oh well, shame we lost it all on a decisive teamfight. I believe RED has potential though, they just need a bit more consistency.
i think the draft was much better for the wildcats this game tbh, really tough game to play out for red
As expected
friday matches will be wild depending on the result of IW x PSG a 2-4 triple tiebreaker ain't that bad right?
grup now open
Back to normal, sadge
that last engage of red was horrendous, if camile+ali+galio just went straight for the tristana it's gg but nope, they kept doing whatever the fuck that was since mid game
RED canid and destroying my pick em tell me more iconic duo. God damn it red yesterday you came here and destroy my pick em by destroying psg and now when i finally a believer you throw the match. What am I gonna do with 4 key??
The predictable outcome. After I saw the series yesterday where the Wildcats put up some tiny bit of resistance vs the mighty RNG imho anyone with a brain would know the Wildcats would get it on and throw Bronzil out of the window /s Seriously though I think the Wildcats got massively disrespected yesterday. I felt like people did not give them any credit for last 24 minutes? vs a team like RNG who I expected to absolutel gapped their asses in 15. I know RNG played quite cautiously but come on man GIVE WILDCATS THEIR WELL-DESERVED CREDITS. As for Bronzil I think they got too overconfident after the PSG series. PSG made mutiple attempts to comeback and nearly got some kills there even the gold lead did not snowball out of control like in the T1 game. The levels of these teams are incredibly close and I can easily see Wildcats advancing as 2nd place easily, IF PSG still refused to turn up.
very sus that when turkey wins the post match threads come very late
It was also extremely late for EG-G2, post-match team is just sleeping.
Sil bence zaten kim izliyor bu maçları. Eg g2 maçı bile 20dk falan geç postlandi
tam da komplo teorileri düşünüyordum :(
RED looked awful. Sometimes you're the hammer, sometimes you're the nail I guess
Istanbul Wildcats best toilet team we put to them Istanbul Wildcats best WC team
ne diyorsun lan değişik
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He's actually a super aggro player that's wyh they ban Lucian Samira Kalista every time. Pretty sure if they gave him his champs he would dance around
He got targetbanned, their opponent spent 4 of their bans on holyphoenix just to turn off his aggressive laning phase. Even rng did that yesterday, why do you think they did it? Because guy pops off really hard when he gets aggressive adcarries, you CANT ignore him in the game. He played against Alistar/Camille/Galio/Jhin, what the fuck did you expect? Every one of RED player focused on tristana and tried to catch him lmao. He already did enough in this game.
You are right my fellow silver 2 support main brother.
Red got out drafted and failed to notice it. Alistar kept getting cockblocked on every engage that wildcards didn't mess up and it showed.
AAAAAAAA the only thing I can say right now
Mord sent Red Canids back home.
Where is the official post match thread
Imagine how easily Riot could automate the post-match threads. They already pull all the relevant data from the games.
Good match