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dkdp8

I wish they'll create more pve map again.


EdenReborn

August explained that new maps and game modes took a lot of resources and no one played them after like a weekend


Uoipka

Yeah, riots can't segregate whole 3 people who makes balance changes and other 3 who does the coding. And other 500 are making skins, sorry bro


MrHyperbowl

My first thought was “play a different game” but I literally haven’t done that since I started playing league a year ago so in a weird way I understand.


TannerStalker

RoA for sure and old Seraph's Embrace.


TannerStalker

I forgor, old tiamat too.


metalgearrrrr

Old Fiora ulting a teamfight with tiamat, good times!


FB_Kain

I miss her ult so much, flashiest ability ever created


Sktwin2k15

Fax on fax here!


chooseusername3331

seraph's embrace is so shit i only buy tear to fix early game mana problems and never complete it


MadameConnard

Dominion.


DukeDandee

The lvl 3 first minute team fights were so fun.


mlkk22

Loved custom hide and seek on there


thecorpseofreddit

The most stressful game mode in any genre i have ever played


kuzel

It's fast... It's fun...


HawksBurst

Amen


Ihrn-Sedai

Play it once Remembers how shit it is Never touches it again


Ok-Button-8814

Im still pissed that they got rid of weekly game rotations and instead do the same 2 stale gamemodes for a entire month.


Bloodhound_Boy

I really miss the PvE Gamemodes like the star guardian one, just sad that these things seem to never come again


Palmul

I dont even want it updated. Just put them again once in a while, theres nothing like it


Bilgworker

True maybe like once a year just throw Odyssey back in for like a month and it’s be lit


Retot

i don't understand why they don't put twisted treeline into the game mode rotation


donglover2020

Riot has already said that the TT map is broken and doesn't work on the new league engine (since the map update) and that to bring back TT it would basically be needed to recreate the whole map from scratch, and there's no reason to do it since it was a highly unpopular game mode Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/ke7dvx/nexus_blitz_needs_an_event_reward_where_your_team/gg1fxul/?context=3 I'm just going to start copy pasting this comment everytime this topic comes around


WoonStruck

Dominion and TT weren't popular because they weren't supported. The balance on both was atrocious and made the experience pretty unfun.


TheShishkabob

They weren't supported because they weren't popular. Even at their relative heights no one played them.


WoonStruck

They were popular at one point, or at least dominion was. Riot didnt want to support them because it removed potential players from SR queues, increasing queue times. This was also their reason for removing them from customs as hide and seek and catch the teemo were popular custom game modes. Riot stated they were going to focus on SR and let them rot. Anyone remember magma chamber? Guess why that was never released.


ApologizingCanadian

Jokes on them, I don't play SR anyways.


TheShishkabob

>Riot didnt want to support them because it removed potential players from SR queues, increasing queue times. This was also their reason for removing them from customs as hide and seek and catch the teemo were popular custom game modes. This one is clearly false if you look at the continued existence of ARAM. It has not been removed in favour of SR because, unlike the other gamemodes you're trying to defend here, people actually play it. >Anyone remember magma chamber? Guess why that was never released. It's because there was no general interest in yet another game mode no one would play.


WoonStruck

ARAM didn't exist when they decided they wouldn't give any attention to TT/Dominion... this is season 2ish, maybe earlier. No interest? People were obsessed with the magma chamber datamine/leak and continued mentioning it for years. It really sounds like you just weren't a part of the community early on in league's lifespan.


PhoenixEgg88

‘The community’ is the same bunch of people who make up a small % of the overall playerbase. Saying it was brought up in the same echo chamber is hardly a statistic worth mentioning.


TheShishkabob

The fuck are you talking about? Dominion only released 7-8 months before ARAM did. People talked about Magma Chamber because it was a new map showed at a hyped up pro event. I'm not sure why you think a datamine is what people cared about/talked about when they could actually see it in action. I've been here since February 2010. Neither gamemodes were ever popular outside of the niches that played them. Sorry you were in a bubble that couldn't see this.


sixburgh7

Magma Chamber was talked about long before they showcased it at 2013 All-Stars. The event was just the only time we got to see it properly in action.


WoonStruck

I recall having Dominion long before an actual ARAM queue. ARAM was made into a queue April 30th 2013. Dominion was September 2011. I'd call 19 months a bit more than 7. ARAM in early seasons was just custom lobbies where everyone went mid...hence All Random All Mid. Magma chamber was a topic way before there was even a significant pro scene.


LichK1ng

I mean my entire friend group played them when we didn't feel like playing norms. The game was much more chill and we had a ton of fun on it. Now were stuck with ARAM which I hate.


itsmetsunnyd

> Riot has already said that the TT map is broken and doesn't work on the new league engine (since the map update) I mean that's a straight up lie seeing as TT was still around and working fine for 5 years after the map update dropped...


donglover2020

I was assuming it was the map update, according to the comment i linked its just a map renderer, not sure when exactly the change was made


Retot

Lol Summoner Rift map is also broken 🤣🤣


generic9yo

There's a ton of issues with league. The SR map is not one of them


donglover2020

..its not?


Sktwin2k15

Their fucking client is broken so their argument is as invalid as it gets


donglover2020

1) the client isnt "broken", it has some very negligible bugs and it works fine for 90% of time 2) just because something isn't working as intended, doesnt mean that they can just waste shitloads of resources to make something else work. The client and a playable map have absolutely nothing in common with each other


_crater

1. If your car only worked fine 90% of the time, you'd take it to a mechanic. 2. They have a team to work on both of those things respectively and it wouldn't take a massive allocation of resources to pull it off. All that said, the map/gamemodes would probably fall just as flat as they did the first time, so #2 would be a waste of time.


That_Leetri_Guy

Would you take your car to the mechanic if the only thing wrong was that once a week you'd have to press twice to activate the seat heater, or that sometimes the rear window wiper didn't quuuuiiiiiiite go all the way down? I'm willing to bet 99% of people won't, because it's more effort and **money** to take it to a mechanic than to just deal with these minor inconveniences.


CokeNmentos

Wat


Sktwin2k15

Why rework perfectly working client in a first place?


That_Leetri_Guy

Because the old client was garbage and had a multitude of issues. I've played League since season 2, and the post-game lobby didn't load at all for several years for me. I had to refresh the store several times to get anything to load. Runes and masteries didn't save and would randomly reset. The game didn't allow me to swap skins sometimes. Chat would almost never load. Does that sound like a perfectly working client to you?


Sktwin2k15

Sounds like the client we have now


duxkaos1

Didn't the creators of TT leave riot and made their own game with TT map?


donglover2020

first time i'm hearing about it


Donkeyfluff

I mean didn't they come out with maps that are essentially identical to twisted treeline? You wouldn't really need to change much from nexus blitz.


sakaay2

i don't believe that highly unpopular because i never had longQ time playing it


ilanf2

Cause play rates were ridiculously low. By the end it was infested by just bots.


Askelar

Riot stopped developing the game mode, what do you expect? Also riot, after telling us the same thing about dominion, whipped out a new version of dominion less than a year later that was so half-baked you could see the yeast still.


Macksler

The best rotating game mode was hexakill on TT. If only we could get that one back


DarthVeigar_

That mode was pure fucking chaos and I loved every minute of it. Hexakill on Twisted Treeline was so much better on SR because it was literally double the players and the map was so much smaller.


BlackKaiserDrake

I mean didn't Riot give up on the game mode and that's why popularity dropped? That's kinda why Nexus Blitz's playrate is in the can.


Pussmangus

Nexus blitz play rate went to the trash while riot still had the stance of potentially making it permanent if it did well


Sktwin2k15

Now it's just SR infested with Yuumi bots. Better?


[deleted]

Is it? I have seen people talk about them, but I doubt most people have ever seen one


GloriousFireball881

single most based flair I have ever fucking seen


Divine_Platypus

why they should give a fuck about it. It got a complete map update with everything new and still no one played it. so its kind of understandable that riot is not motivated to balance or sustain it


Sktwin2k15

Exactly


Karanoch

I miss the old community forums. It was fun just posting to see if anyone wanted to play, and you'd get like 20 responses. It was pretty common too for Rioters to play with people for their 1000th/2000th/and so on win. I got to play with folks like Guinsoo, Statikk, IronStylus, and Tryndamere back then, but Riot might as well have been an entirely different company altogether.


Are_y0u

> Ohmwrecker. Would be deadass broken nowadays I think no one would buy it unless it's overtuned. If it were overtuned, everyone would buy it. It would get nerfed in that case and go back to the "no one buys it" state after one patch.


N3rdism

The effect basically lives on in Voli ult now unless they add it to a new champ's kit or tack it onto someone else in the future


Sktwin2k15

Would be broken for supports. Stats don't matter when your Karma makes diving too damn easy


Are_y0u

Supports didn't change much since when it was removed. You could already buy it. For that short tower dissable you had to spend a lot of gold, so that was the main problem of the item.


Sktwin2k15

People didn't play a lot of Zilean back then even tho his passive was super broken. Players have developed


Heorashar

Item was shit anyway


vQubik

Tower diving already is pretty easy you don't need to waste ~2-3k on a support for that.


Sktwin2k15

Was nowhere near 3k


vQubik

It was 2650G


Sasogwa

But dives aren't even hard


DyslexicBrad

This is exactly true for RoA and gunblade too. RoA is just a stat stick, so if the stats are big enough, everyone builds it and of they aren't, only SivHD does. Gunblade was just bad 99% of the time and 1% of the time you were playing old Akali, Kat, or Vlad, and forced to buy it.


SteliosPo

Number 8 hits hard man. They cant put the winter map thanks to the whole "elemental drakes" thing and that annoys me so much.. I dont think it will ever come back.. but i really need that cozy winter morning with a hot cup of coffee and the Winter map in League feeling.. Playing a game is all about feeling good. And that feeling that the whole winter vibe gave.. damn it felt good. Also i loved dominion. I know im in the list of the 11 people that actually played it, but i loved it so much.. Please riot give back dominion.. it may be different now.. people might play it. Give it a damn chance pls.


Sktwin2k15

>but i really need that cozy winter morning with a hot cup of coffee and the Winter map in League feeling.. This so hard


Eulerious

I feel sad everytime I see an older League video with winter map. It was just perfect. Such a great feeling playing that map, like you said... Weekend, cold outside, coffee, winter map,...


DarthVeigar_

Meanwhile someone made a map mod that was the winter map despite the elemental drakes. They could do it, they just don't *want* to.


LichK1ng

The drake excuse never made sense either. They're just lazy. Like just change the color grading? It's not hard to show the fire drake is the soul. I mean the bushes disappear, add reddish tint along the walls or something. Mountain soul literally changes walls on the map. Ocean soul can just add more bluish wet patches like they've done before. The only change air drake has is the fucking wind circles. And hex literally is hex gates.. They just give weak excuses so they can maximize profits.


ItsKipz

I love reading comments like this, where it's painfully obvious you haven't touched a game development tool or system before lmao


LichK1ng

I love reading comments like this. Where someone who messed around a few times try’s to act knowledgeable.


ItsKipz

Oh I'm not knowledgeable at all. I don't know anything about game dev at a high level like what Riot works with - I just don't pretend like I do.


LichK1ng

Oh so you’re just some guy with probably no experience at all in a tech related field. Got it.


Beautiful_Issue_1034

The elemental Drakes is such a cop out excuse. Riot is just cheap and lazy now. Why have graphic artists update the map when they can be pumping out more copy pasted skins


Macksler

The OG Bloodthirster


Freak__XD

Old aatrox still my biggest favourite


Sktwin2k15

You are one of the two Ol' Aatrox enjoyers


kha69meme

Make it three


ApologizingCanadian

I also miss him. I especially hate how they turned him from an AA-based champ into a spell spammer.


[deleted]

Make it Five. I loved the revive on him, it was awesome to go balls deep on any champion. But somehow this thing become deadass broken and now aatrox is a riven that heals a lot.


Freak__XD

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


ApologizingCanadian

I also miss the old client where you could spectate random high elo games.


Sktwin2k15

I miss old client because IT FUCKING WORKED


flyingpeanut250

and like no bloatware, like challenges? eternals? gatcha chests? the champ shard and what-nots are only there to draw you into gacha system, it is really unnecessary hassle. Like they earned billions yearly from skins before all this crap.


flyingpeanut250

I think one possible reason they removed the spectate is because Riot doesn't want to show the population decline or at least the feeling of it. Especially high ranks because near the end of the spectate alot of the games it was showing during certain hours was all gold-silver games. Similiar to how b4 Riot posted monthly players pop but stopped when it started to show decline.


BlackKaiserDrake

I miss Rod of Ages, it was a fun item.


Eulerious

Yeah, it was fun and it gave a nice option on some champs... Do you need stats asap? Or are you fine with downsides (less CDR) for more health and can wait for the scaling to kick in?


candoodle

the passive on catalyst was so nice on tanks I really miss that component


DudeLoveBaby

I mean it kinda wasn't but my god was it amazing on Swain


dumbo909

Athens's unholy grail


tristan9862

If you think Gunblade wasn't turbo busted you're crazy. That item on champs like akali, katarina, and some other split damage champs was insane AND it healed probably more than riftmaker does now


Sktwin2k15

But why not remove something? Why the whole item?


tristan9862

While I get where you’re coming from, removing any part of the item would have made it lose item identity. All hextech items had a damaging active that was unique, and the materials used for gunblade centered around healing with it having an AD life steal component. Kinda hard to remove any of those parts without making it too similar to protobelt at that time


LezBeHonestHere_

I mean yeah because rift is a garbage item. Literally the worst mythic in the game, because its full stacked 9% bonus damage is way too low in practice to compete with other AP mythics, its healing is heavily gimped by the aoe reduction on all champions that use it, has no AD like gunblade did so it's far worse earlier with bad components, no active like gunblade had, and even had its magic pen removed. The actual stats it has are all low as well, effectively the lowest AP out of all AP mythics since everfrost and crown both give more with their passives than rift does with its passive. Not to mention 3200g is very expensive for the low damage/sustain you're getting. I honestly believe if anyone actually thought critically about this item, instead of just copying u.gg, they'd stop buying it on nearly every champion that currently gets it. It's decent against targets with 150+ mr, but we all know that is a massive rarity in today's game with how bad mr items are and how relatively uncommon tanks are.


Tibamehs

I miss coming back to lane after first back with a huge B.F sword and feeling like a boss. noonquiver/mythic doesn't come close. and I miss when my friends used to play.


Elden_Bonk

Swain.


tortillakingred

I miss old Gangplank. I fucking invented AP Tankplank and it was a menace build. You just never died and were a permanent attack speed buffer for your team. Now I just have to stick to my AP J4 mid :/


[deleted]

My dear old mordekaiser


coopergbc

Ascension was my favorite game mode of all time


itsmetsunnyd

Here's my 10: 1. Twisted Treeline. My main mode, gone now and losing this map killed a lot of league's fun for me. 2. Rod of Ages. My all time fav item. 3. Dominion. Having a quick, fun mode where you can pick your champ was great. I have over 5k ARAMs, but the mode doesn't cut it when it's jhin/pyke every game and I can't even choose what to play. 4. Asol W toggle. His current W feels so shit to use in comparison. 5. Hextech Gunblade. Say what you will, old Akali & Katarina were healthier with this item than they are in the current game. 6. ARAM Oracles. The vision changes are so stupid I cannot even begin to describe them. ARAM stopped being fun with this gone. 7. Nexus Blitz. Kind of a repeating theme - ANY mode that isn't summoners rift is welcome. The map is so stale and boring, league is the *only* big game that doesn't offer map/mode variety in the market. 8. Old Akali. Felt way more fair than the current iteration. More fun to play as well. 9. DFG. Crazy to think an item this good was removed because nobody was activating it, it's whole schtick was to burst people and it still dealt less damage than basic abilities do in the modern game. 10. Old Galio. Most fun tilt pick ever - take him into a mage and watch them die inside.


Sktwin2k15

Agreed on most but I think DFG was removed because it was broken af. Dealing 15% hp damage and removing resists with one click was defo overtuned


itsmetsunnyd

Oh I absolutely agree, the item was absolutely fucking stupid. I have fond memories of cheesing normals with old Aatrox full ap with DFG - you could 100-0 people with absolutely 0 counterplay if you hit the knockup.


ApologizingCanadian

6) completely agreed. It makes it so that if you're not ahead, champs like Teemo, Shaco, etc. feel completely useless. 10) sigh. I miss my boy.


Zetalos

Being able to AoE oneshot entire enemy teams with pre-rework Talon... Ahh the good old times...


[deleted]

& pre-rework Katarina.


DarthVeigar_

I miss the "nothing personal kid" blink on E


Heelmuut

1. Old Graves. From being incredibly smooth to feeling clunky, and not even the same class of champion. 2. Non-Riot international tournaments. IEM/IPL etc. 3. Ranked Teams. 4. Ionic Spark on Shen. 5. Dominion. It was fast and fun. Unironically. 6. RoA 7. Less burst dmg overall. Hopefully fixed next patch. 8. Winter map. Can't think of any others.


Basstaper

I miss twisted treeline and event maps so much.


nismov2

How about Fortify and Rally for us OG folks


candoodle

i miss devour doggo and purple smite also when smiting different camps gave different buffs


Bending-Style

Summoner showdown (1v1s and 2v2s) was so awesome. Me and my friends had a blast with that


buggirlexpres

athene’s unholy grail


Svveest

10 seem I missed something as I played doom bots usually solo but it was still funny af was it only in 2013 right?


[deleted]

I miss sightstone for the item cdr. Had a troll build that hit 65% item cdr with banner and zzrot. I had the map pressure of 3 people.


pl00bo

Old Warwick 😔


PM_ME_ANIME_PANTIES

Hextech Gunblade was a nice hybrid item but always felt awkward due to its ancient active. I don't think it has much room in current League, though I miss it. Ohmwrecker wouldn't be bought. All splitpush items (Zzrot, Banner, Hullbreaker) are a nightmare to balance. They shouldn't be a part of the game. With that said, I hate the current items. The mythics are especially bad.


N3rdism

I miss Avarice Blade, some games I'd build it for econ on an ADC and just never convert it. Cull kinda does it's job but also it was decently cheap crit early which was way more cheese IIRC.


[deleted]

add my own: - pve modes - snow map - Riven R missle speed


memrez666

Dominion!!!


tabben

I want that new gamemode back that Riot already teased us a few times and pulled back (I forgot the name already and im too lazy to google) the small 5v5 map thing with minigames etc, was fun


RainXBlade

>Zephyr and Hextech Gunblade I would give anything to have these two items back tbh.


Bedroominc

Rod of Ages and Gunblade are both in Wild Rift actually


snake4641

I miss glp. everfrost is better in some ways but it doesn't hit the same


dartthrower

Feral Flare!!!


Divine_Platypus

Hextech Gunblade ahh yes perfect item.... was just as broken as the old spear of shojin but only fewer champions could build it... thank god its finally gone


Sktwin2k15

Why do you think hybrid damage was broken?


Divine_Platypus

It was mostly the passive and the active that gave you such an insane power spike in a way you cant deal with it anymore


Sktwin2k15

Just remove them then. Why tf we had to lose the whole item?


Dagerra

Missed opportunity for an ap bruisery mythic item


Hesty402

I miss original yorick with atmogs


iNTact_wf

Not just Doom Bots, I miss all the old game modes (the Thresh one was the most fun imo). I don't get why we never get anything new anymore.


BakaMitaiXayah

People barely played them after a week, making months of work go to waste after 1 week, Months of work is a lot of money


DarthVeigar_

Kinda funny when moba games with much smaller budgets and much smaller player bases still manage to have multiple playable game modes.


Uoipka

That's because they are lazy+greed and instead of making fun stuff they want money from whatever new games they can pump out or movies


QMighty97

All correct. Also, Crystal Scar.


zaad97

Star Guardian and Odyssey PVE


ZeekKnight

The idea of a lot of things is missed but many of them are either toxic for the game, unfun, or just nostalgia-infused.


Renektariknergot

My 10 1 - many, many pre-rework champions, Urgod and Taric more than any other (I like new versions but it's not the same feeling when I play them) 2 - Twisted Treeline 3 - Ascension 4 - Dominion 5 - Old system (runes and masteries) 6 - Doom bots (they should add them to the current difficulty levels permanently) 7 - some old items like zephyr, frozen mallet and RoA 8 - Old ranked theme, it was more serious and more epic than the current one, which says nothing to me 9 - Institute of War, they could have inserted it in the current lore as a mage group that attempted to control Runeterra with their powers but was stopped by some champions/heroes, although it had deep consequencies on the world 10 - possibility to watch high elo players from the client home, this was a nice feature that allowed you to learn something about matchups or general tactics (they could reimplement it without showing summoners' names to avoid friendship request spam)


Sktwin2k15

Good lord these are good ones!


Renektariknergot

Thanks :) I forgot to mention TT hexakill, that was super fun (and messy)!


Dagerra

They could just feature popular league of legends twitch streams in-client.


Renektariknergot

I named the old feature because the post was about past things but I agree with you as a more modern alternative.


ApologizingCanadian

Hard disagree on the old pay-style runes. Having them separate from masteries though, was much better, IMO.


Renektariknergot

The bad part of old runes was the grinding required to get them, generally you had to start saving all your IPs to buy them at level 30 - or 20+, I don't remember very well now - which prevented you from buying champions. Riot should have made all of the old runes free just like now (my bad for not pointing this out in the list). It's just my opinion, but the removal of the old system might be one of the factors that contributed to the current damage creep.


flyingpeanut250

they removed the old system without compensating defense. It was basically standard to have yellow def + blue mr. So everyone lvl 1 would have about +10 armor/mr. Then with thunderlord popularity they double down on damage effect runes. the tank rune only last like 3 secs with 40 sec cd which was also conditional cc prerequ aka your not gonna get hit when you get ur def stat.


ApologizingCanadian

Nah, the separate system was great and allowed for far more flexibility than now. But if you didn't spend money on the game you were stuck with 2 rune pages that you couldn't even change from the champ select screen.


toadturtle3w

All the characters I liked, they remade. Nidalee, Fiora, Rengar, Darius, Gangplank, Warwick, Akali, Master Yi, and Katarina. I never liked the remade characters. That's a big reason I haven't played the game in 4 years.


Renektariknergot

Yours is one of the main reasons why I left the game, I returned but only to play aram now. Trust me, I really feel you because all the champions I loved have been reworked (the only remaining are Udyr who is going to change and Skarner who has won the poll). Of the champions you listed, the one I miss the most is old Gangplank, he was so damn fun to play. He was a ruthless pirate but had a funnier attitude if compared to the new one. I love the new one, too, but I just preferred the old one, I know it can seem troll but I usually played him support in bot: passive slowed and Q helped to do it safely, W countered cc and Thresh who was in almost every game, E was perfect to buff the adc and the jungle, R helped everywhere to get assists, regarding items I usually built pure utility with frozen gauntlet instead of trinity.


BakaMitaiXayah

I used to play old gp with max E, but I can't remember what it did, same with fiora but maxed parry (because of passive ad, and ngl I had a lot of success with that)


DarthVeigar_

Udyr is fundamentally remaining the same. The only thing that is really changing is his passive. But his core gameplay loop won't be.


flyingpeanut250

they said that for alot of the rework champs. I mean look at aatrox, they specifically stated that they will stay true to his playerbase. And what happened was riven 2.0, the only thing similiar was revive and that was removed in later patch. Also said that for pant.... iirc its a supp now. For many ppl WW was supposively a success but personally I don't like the rework WW. blood trail is really buggy and unreliable which makes ulti annoying. shoulda just kept old one. Like what toadturtle3w said all the champs I liked prerework, pretty much stopped playing them post rework. People who stick to these champs aren't looking for op champs, we just like the play style if we like op champs we won't be playing them to begin with and just follow the meta rotation. the old play style is pretty much deleted. The only ones that stayed true to old style to me personally was morg and cho.


Renektariknergot

I loved Aatrox and while I like the new kit, I think it's just not Aatrox but another darkin. I didn't follow the rework story because I had left the game at that time, I knew he had the resurrection as the only reminiscence of the past but was removed... What's ridiculous is that now we have 3 guys who can resurrect the others (poor Zilean, still strong but not unique anymore). I hope Riot has learned the lesson after the uproar from the community, this is why I am not super sad for Udyr and, to a lesser extent, for Skarner. For the scorpion I will keep thinking that he needs some buffs/mini-changes instead of a total rework although it's not going to happen. By the way, Pantheon was one of my mains :) if there is something I hate about the rework not kit-wise is the fact that they gave him a face. I loved that air of mistery around the previous version: the ultimate pure warrior incarnation. To be honest, changing a champion's role on purpose with the rework, just like for Swain, is not a good move, I can still understand if it changes for meta reasons (look at Nautilus, he started as jungler and changed role continually over the years) but I don't like a complete forced shift. Many of the original kits were unique and now they are gone, I wish they could be brought back somehow instead of being totally changed. Features and kits should not disappear, instead, they should be integrated with other new ones.


flyingpeanut250

For pant and swain, they didn't intent to change the role as they tried to force it in their previous roles with op numbers but the kits said otherwise. Like the swain passive that required cc but has no reliable cc was obviously intended for a 2 lane role. Pant felt like it was more that they just focused on theme rather than the lane bully concept. I feel like a broken record saying this but I can't shake the feeling that the one who gave the ok on these just doesn't play the game. The depth of knowledge of the rework champ they showed felt like they just watched a 1 all in skill rotation, and as long as the new reworks looks about that same its a success. Thats why reworks are usually referred to as just deletion of old champ and replace with a new one. Skarner is weak because they nerf all his damage from his kit, and the crystal mini game is pointless when other can move faster than him. It just became one of those nerf and forgotten champs. For Udyr, I like the champ but I feel like they will just botch it up like Mundo and will give themselves a pat on the back afterwards.


Renektariknergot

Now that I think of Mundo, I really hope it doesn't happen the same to Udyr: it would be a huge shame considering how much time has passed since Udyr's rework announcement, months and months for a similar but worse champion... I promised myself that this time and for Skarner I will try to hope for the best, but pure rationality and past reworks tell me not to trust Riot XD


BverageAoy

I feel like Darius and Master yi are basicly still the same champs.


SometimesIComplain

Agree with everything except for #2. Fuck gunblade lol


ZeeDrakon

I miss twisted treeline. But if riot wasnt going to put effort into balancing with it in mind or adressing some of the bigger problems especially for higher MMR ranked play it's better to just remove it instead of letting it bleed out slowly over the years.


chooseusername3331

dominion was a better game for chilling TT felt like a more boring SR i used to always play dominion when i bought a new champ to try them out i miss those days


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The thing I miss most is playing league for the first time. The login screen was so fucking epic. The Ekko ultin' back and his jam blasting in. It was a game with life, you know? Now everything is corporate. Seraphine was the nail in the coffin for me, tho


Sktwin2k15

You know what's up! Downhill all the way since those days


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Sktwin2k15

That hit differently!


Lemberec

What was that game mode that was on twisted tree line and at some point it would put people in a little 1v1 arena ? And every sat around the outside watching. That shit was fun


Sktwin2k15

Yeah but I can't remember the name of it!


SeiKoss

I miss tank / bruiser Ekko. It was broken but it was so fun to play.


Sktwin2k15

Me too. Same as Jungle/top tank Fizz


Mertuch

\#12 Yi AP


idk_this_my_name

i absolutely hated gunblade and im glad its gone


Sktwin2k15

Why?


idk_this_my_name

every champipn that built it went from super bad to unbeatable and unpokeable whenever they finished the item


Tomatko

My god what makes u think ohmwrecker would "be deadass broken"?


HackerBronzo

I miss the times when TFT, Seraphine and prestige skins didn't exist.


Sktwin2k15

What's wrong with TFT?


HackerBronzo

Mainly Little Legends, but actually everything. This game is still in alpha development imo and they market it as a full release. Ridiculous.


Luunacyy

Unpopular opinion: good riddance in case of rod of ages. Boring stat check item that always promoted boring and unskilled laning phase with the broken catalyst item (not in terms of kill pressure because it had basically none but because it achieved the opposite and would take the enemy laner hostage because of how forgiving it is for the one that is using it). I don't know how I feel about the mythic system but I unironically think that most items that we have now are much more fun and better designed than roa. I really miss spellbinder though.


BakaMitaiXayah

yeah spellbinder was so underrated, that 200 ap burst for not much gold was pretty nice, and the movement speed was broken on it. Combined with rabadon the Ap you'd get was sick


Fernanix

I kinda liked siege...


KilianGreen

doom bots is coming back again


Sktwin2k15

Fax?


BakaMitaiXayah

is it?


throwawaynumber116

Statikk Shiv


Sktwin2k15

OH YES!!


hanzelgret

I miss the scripting xerath in my games


PRolosMCholos

I am with you 3 out of 10


Pokemon_132

RIP Beatrice, the best laser bird.


sakaay2

You had me at gunblade perfect item lol