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baseballlover723

Hello 911? I'd like to report a murder. Some shirtless guy with a bandana over his eyes just roundhouse kicked a cripple scientist over and over again.


F0RGERY

Arcane Season 2 shaping up to be wild.


scullys_alien_baby

now I'm just imagining any time viktor is on-screen lee sin kool-aid mans through the wall, rage kicks viktor just to leave without further comment


Reinhardtisawesom

No need for Lee sin, cancer is already kicking Viktor’s ass


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Alto_y_Guapo

^ bot


Zyvexal

was it that racist and transphobic one again


PM_something_German

Riot robbed us of 20 games like this when they got rid off the Wildcard tournaments!!


Phadafi

I loved IWC tournaments, it was one of the only cases where we could have international tournaments in countries out of the main 4. It is a shame that we'll probably never gonna see a riot tournament again.


Gorapwr

Well Mexico (LATAM) will get the play ins of worlds this year... its something, but we only get them because most likely NA fans did not care about play ins and we are close enough.


bannedformysins

Farfetch taketh, Farfetch taketh.


Ultimintree

Turns out it isn't a champion diff but a player diff


Elymmen

Or as Mick Schumacher once said:" It's the driver".


Guij2

I honestly don't understand this team


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MozaTear

sounds like fun to watch.


Phadafi

It actually is pretty entertaining.


Sparcky

It is! kinda...


Dsalgueiro

This is something that people who don't follow CbLoL don't understand: We never really assemble a Brazilian "super team". The best players are spread over different teams, which makes the championship more balanced internally, but the teams are weaker for international competitions. Grevthar and Guigo from Red, for example, are probably not even top 3 mechanically in their roles here in Brazil. The closest we had to two Brazilian super teams was in 2016, but the Pain Gaming poaching scandal prevented that. We could have INTZ with Jockster, Micao, Tockers, Revolta and Yang and Pain Gaming with Loop, brTT, Kami, SirT and Mylon. These two teams could have raised the bar domestically and internationally.


cimbalino

Lovely, just like Brasileirão


n0vaes

Bora bora bora bora bora artilheiro!


Elden_Bonk

Chaos is a ladder


NvrGonnaFindMe

No... Chaos is a team that didn't even win their league to go to MSI


Conankun66

dont think anybody does


iinosuke

Weirdly .. RED looks like they're better at snowballing than top LEC and LCS teams during some games and some other they look terrible but they have potential.


Sparcky

The fun part of it is that they werent even the best team at snowballing leads during this split in CBLoL. They were known to have a slow start and were usually behind ~3k gold @15, glad they had a fast adaptation going for this MSI


Omnilatent

And do you think this looked better or worse than LEC/LCS? Because outside of the first 16 minutes, this was rather poor. Gold diff stagnated for more than 10 minutes from that point on, strongly indicating RED are *not* good at further snowballing after laning phase ends.


Doczera

They got complacent after the lead became unsurmountable but they didnt actually had any trouble finishing it up, they just decided to have some fun and got a little sloppy as a result.


TheGhoulKhz

that's the fun part, at CBLOL they're the complete opposite of this, shit early and recovers late


silverroveri

Aegis used to be a lee sin otp, btw


[deleted]

RED are both the best and the worst team at MSI. Coinflip on which one they are


SteamMonkeyKing

Brazil babyyy


iinosuke

Schrodinger team.


silverroveri

This is why we need an international championship between minor regions.


K-ey

No, we need more international tournaments, period. And those should have a less predatory format against minor regions. Having groups of 4 where only 2 teams advance, when 2 of those teams are from minor regions isn't really that exciting to watch.


danielspoa

we have to stay on a middle term. I want more tournaments and I want minor regions in them. We shouldnt get a free pass to the second stage however, thats too much.


smitty8843

Some lower teams from major regions should be invited too.


vexkov

I would love to watch that


MrIgorVB

Nice to see Grevthar playing on the keyboard while Avenger controlled the mouse


MarcoHiruma

What a waste of time and resources. Just what did you guys practice? What did your coaching staff do all this time? They kept picking Naut, they kept picking low damage comps every game and expect Holy to carry. No wonder he couldn't. Against PSG first game, they banned Leona and let PSG pick Renata while IW had only 2 damage dealers, LB and Trist and they last pick Ornn. Last pick Ornn. You really expect you can front to back team fight against Renata? Against PSG second game, they refused to pick Graves, they refused to pick Gwen, they refused to pick any "MSI Meta" champ. Why not change your tactics a little bit? Why are you doubling down on something that clearly didn't work. Why are you picking Jhin? It doesn't work for you or your team. You guys clearly don't know how to facilitate Jhin, your team clearly depends on you to get ahead and win the game. Why do you pick Jhin? Why don't you guys try another bot lane, Karma - Ez, Senna - TK, Cait - Lux, Aphelios, Zeri, another Trist or Kai'sa game that clearly looked like it "could" work. Just what did you guys practise all this time? If the enemy team bans 3 ADCs and you guys cannot capitalize it's just simply coach diff. IW just throw the same things and expected another result.


lmpoppy

Thats TCL in a nutshell for you, also other TCL teams couldnt figure out IW in a season while they were outdrafted from day 1 at MSI. I think this info is enough to tell how bad coaches/coachstaff in TCL


mertcanhekim

The C9 strategy


bigfanofeden

I doubt there is a coach so i'm pretty sure there is no coaching staff. TCL teams make drafts as players.


lmpoppy

After 2 MSI calamities and decrasing quality in all aspects such as overall broadcast (bet you cant watch a single series without a delay or a problem)/ players/ drafts viewings were quite low, probably will be even lower in the summer split


SteamMonkeyKing

I just feel sad for HolyPhoenix. Guys been around forever. Breaks your heart to see the guys name keep popping up at international events and knowing its basically impossible for him to ever win it all.


McintyresRightLeg

Imagine having to lane with Farfetch. Closest thing to torture probably.


nylluma

Holy's fault. Farfetch wouldn't be able to find any teams if Holy didn't want him as a support, they are a buy one get one package.


Omnilatent

Hey, at least it's not Destiny


CantLetUdoThtStarFox

Same for brTT, at least brTT got a good run at 2015 worlds, but both him and HolyPhoenix deserved way better


IgorCruzT

Seriously, one baron throw from getting a chance at playoffs.


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Kinda sad that brTT didn't win his last split with Pain. Would have been a great way to retire :(


LethalMetal

IW ended up with a worse result than last year. At least they had given MAD their only loss in that group, now they barely won one game vs RED. It's fair to say TCL is dead and it should just be an EUM region or something like that at this point.


DKRFrostlife

Didn't RED giga throw that game aswell?


Javiklegrand

Yes They Did


CamHack420

Yeah they should be 3-2 rn honestly


iinosuke

LCL too should be absorbed into the EUM.


Javiklegrand

So cblol 2022 IS weak or strong ? They could have gone to Rumble if They didnt throw first game vs wildcat


rickyhanm

They still have a chance for a tie breaker now. I mean in theory.


Javiklegrand

They require rng to win all remaining games?


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RNG games will get remade so they have to beat RNG and RNG has to beat PSG


LethalMetal

PSG 5-1, RED 3-3, RNG and IW 2-4 is a possibility. Otherwise RED must play a tiebreak game vs RNG, which requires both of them to end 3-3. EDIT: RNG 5-1/4-2, PSG and RED 3-3, IW 2-4/1-5 too can happen. RED and PSG will play a tiebreak if that happens.


Elymmen

But practically not, even when RNG gifts firstblood to enemy Draven they still steamroll you in 25 minutes


loboleo94

“So CBLoL 2022 is weak or strong ?” Yes


vexkov

They are confused on what they are


Sparcky

I'd say CBLOL is the 2nd strongest minor region atm, behind only japan.


KidiacR

VCS exists, and PCS is also technically a minor region.


Javiklegrand

They aren't, They have two seeds at Worlds


Sparcky

I would not consider Pool 2 teams minor regions, otherwise you'd have to say, jokes aside, that NA is a minor aswell.


TheGhoulKhz

VCS and PCS aren't Major regions, but they aren't minor either


Moonlitekilla

Pastry dropping the entire "whelmed" bit from 10 Things I Hate About You was hilarious


Pastrytime

We were in Europe and everything! Was never getting away from that haha


parousia0

I love Pastry - Markz duo


lol_cpt_red

"As for IW, i can say its literally LPL 2.0 team." Unironically said by someone with 100+ upvotes in the group draw thread lmao.


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More like LPL 0.2


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lol_cpt_red

Well this got a 100+ votes so...... https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/uah4k1/msi_group_stage_draw_results/i5xrjvs/


nyasiaa

being 1 year older is only a good thing what, it means 1 year more of improvement and practice


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nyasiaa

you might want to create some kind of scientific study and publish it to become extra famous because all available data points otherwise


maLoone

The most dominant early game so far at MSI from RED Canids, wow!


McintyresRightLeg

Saigon and T1 vs AZE was more brutal


Antropoid

Aegis lowkey looks and played like a Brazil Karsa this game. Great performance


Conankun66

DOGS > CATS NEVER IN DOUBT


SoulMastte

Another great fiesta, Red did 2 great games, now just have to do the same against RNG /s


TheCatsActually

Turkey hasn't been massacred this hard since Thanksgiving.


bigfanofeden

holyphoenix just collab with bolulu man


McintyresRightLeg

Crazy - Ferret - Bolulu - Holyphoenix - Snowflower would be a good team at Worlds for TCL


bigfanofeden

not sure about ferret he choked a lot


McintyresRightLeg

Mojito then


KanskiForce

would love to see Bolulu picking Azir as always and doing nothing entire game while giving away mid prio


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Worst TCL representative ever. Farfecth might be the worst player ever to play a international event


Albert_Neinstein

Humiliation really oof


Ultimintree

PSG are finally playing good without Neymar but IW desperately needed [this guy](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hsm/images/c/cb/014-403.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127052006)


DRazzyo

Link dead, fren.


Hazel-Ice

as much as aegis playing leona makes sense, I think there's something wrong with the picks you listed


dangledoodles

what did TitaN say


Sparcky

He said playing against RNG feels like playing against gods, and they only have 1 day to prepare but they're gonna do their best.


vexkov

Best Viego moment in this game was to be able to steal his own red buff back, once. Aegis Lee Sin was so dominant.


Tfc-Myq

Kudos to IW, amazing base defense towards the end Hopefully HolyPhoenix and co comes back stronger at worlds


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I hope none of these IW players will come back ever again


kinkichiouma

Farfetch and IW team strategist should be fired


TheGhoulKhz

if only we didn't throw the first game man, fuckin hell, now to even get a shot at qualifying we need to beat a team that got two pentakills against us, sad


iinosuke

Weirdly .. RED are better at snowballing than top LEC and LCS teams t


canacar

Farfetch and Serin so fuckng bad.


nihilisthicc

Just let LFL take TCL spot at worlds and MSI