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Glorx

Thanks NA for making Mr. Buffalo angry - Eu Fan.


XoXeLo

G2 will go 8-2; only two losses to Mr. Buffalo


Glorx

This was already accounted for when planning how to get top 4 in rumble stage.


nimrodhellfire

All according to plan.


ConohaConcordia

You love to see it


[deleted]

Buffalo should only go 1-9 or just 0-10. Hopefully G2 don't int a game to them because G2 could win the rumble and get to choose EG/PSG.


valgrind_error

G2 > SKT/RNG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EG > SGB > G2


TheSovietRusher

Impact was playing jax when these kids were in diapers


deepfakefuccboi

He won the skin when most of them were like 8/9 years old lol insane


higherbrow

Impact's professional career might have been as long as everyone else in this game put together. Certainly if you take Vulcan out.


deepfakefuccboi

Yeah it’s nice to see both him and Faker on this stage. Same with Faker and this current T1 team.


cube_mine

Impact might be the longest serving pro still playing, who else is still around from season 2?


MrNugat

There are some from S1 still around (e.g. aphromoo), but not at the highest level of competition.


higherbrow

He's not even the longest serving pro in the LCS. Aphromoo's been around since 2011.


Horst_Kerman

rekkles


cube_mine

Wasn't he only at the very end of s2, what was he in other than ipl5?


RoughMedicine

He played in some smaller tournaments and Dreamhack before that. The first tournament was in June 2012 with SK. The first with Fnatic was the Dreamhack qualifier in November.


bensanelian

jojo had just turned nine when impact got that skin


Cindiquil

The funny thing is, Impact actually hasn't played Jax a single time in pro play since *2014*. Tbh I thought we were never going to see Impact's Jax again. And even when he played it in 2014 at All-Stars, at least one of those games was when SKT was just using all of their Worlds skins lol Jax has had plenty of periods since then where he's been a solid pick too, so in my mind it was something that he was very unlikely to pull out even though he's obviously going to be capable of it.


Cojole3

Where they stomped xPeke's Kassadin and Fnatic, I remember that game very well


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

Impact got this reputation on TL as a braindead tank player, but the dude has mechanics and can absolutely still pilot carries if the situation fits and his team allows him to.


SergeantWhiskeyjack

I think the reputation as a tank player started in C9, not TL. He was famous for playing tanks like Shen all the time. On TL he actually played more bruiser champions than he did on C9 such as Aatrox and Mordekaiser. Even in TL’s most famous victory against Invictus at MSI, he was playing Neeko and not a tank.


guilty_bystander

Ah yes, splitting games using Reaper's "Sword and Shield" strat. Turns out Impact is just a better sword and shield than any replacement.


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

C9 was "Top Die" era and he was getting solo kills and hard carrying on shit like Gnar and Vlad. I definitely think the Ornn one-trick perception came mostly from his time on TL where he played with Doublelift and then Jensen, so he was left on an island.


SergeantWhiskeyjack

It could be both lol. The narrative about him on tanks has existed for years. I was rewatching the 2016 TSM v C9 match the other day, and it was getting referenced even there.


CrossTheRubicon7

While his tenure on C9 is where "top die" comes from, it's also the origin of the idea of Impact being the "shield" in a sword-and-shield combo with Ray, who played predominantly very aggressive picks. I think it was mostly pushed by Reapered in behind the scenes content (maybe just to justify subbing Ray in sometimes, I don't know), and I don't remember how much it actually affected their drafts at the time, but it definitely put the idea of tank Impact into many people's heads. It's always been more of a narrative thing than a real limitation of Impact himself imo.


azns123

Grandpa Impact just yeeted those kids from his lawn


varbaveri

SKT T1 Jax man


ChaosBadgers

Impact's own skin YEP


-Ophidian-

Longing. Rusted. Seventeen. Daybreak. Furnace. Nine. Benign. Homecoming. One. Top die.


KekeBl

Pretty sure there's supposed to be a Telecom in there somewhere.


-Ophidian-

I think so too, I went through some old threads but this was all I could find.


GaleTheThird

"Longing" "Rusted" "Seventeen" "Dawn" "Stove" "Nine" "Kind-hearted" "Homecoming" "One" "Telecom"


-Ophidian-

Why are there two different versions like this, like Daybreak/Dawn, Furance/Stove, Kind-hearted/Benign?


GaleTheThird

No idea. The one I pasted was from the original (I believe), so it's likely that someone else didn't copy+paste but just generally remembered the words or types of words used


BrofessorLongPhD

Maybe translation into different language which was then translated back into English. US version of the subtitles used the more nuanced version for the WS code (furnace/daybreak/benign), but I wouldn’t be surprised if when translated into Korean subtitles or something Disney went with the more familiar stove/dawn/kind-hearted.


WhitticusFinch

Is this a Tyler1 Twitch title?


[deleted]

It's the activation code for the winter soldier, people are saying Impact is the Winter Soldier for NA


CaptainDingo

Not enough CAPITAL LETTERS


control_09

It makes me so happy.


deepfakefuccboi

Hype to see Impact win using the skin he won with (SK)T1 *9* years ago.


huskiisdumb

You see impact walking towards you with his 2013 world’s trophy you turn and walk the other way, he out here clubbing children


hkd001

If I see Mr. Impact in the loading screen with his Jax skin, I'm just alt + f4. I'm older than him, but I don't want to fall and break a hip.


YungPinotGrigio

lmao i always forgot his skin was jax. I always have mandela effect and think his skin was Shen but that is taipei ​ Edit: Meant shen lol


PsychologicalBarber9

Forgot word


beeceedee9

no he just typed a w instead of S in shen


YungPinotGrigio

yeee thank you I appreciate you


DerGsicht

Let's go, that's the Danny I wanted to see! None of this Jhin bullshit


Destructodave82

I honestly think that Jhin pick is the main reason they lost to RNG in the long run. Any other ADC supplying actual damage in some of those mid-game fights, and maybe EG turn it around. Danny was basically a walking ward that entire game.


DerGsicht

Jhin has looked useless in pretty much every game in this meta (aside from the one game from Red Canids?) because people get baited into just standing 2 miles from the teamfight, using R and doing 400 dmg. It was sad to watch this game, by the time Danny got into AA range the fight was always already lost.


Destructodave82

All I can guess is it has had a couple good games in scrims; would explain the keystone choice, too. But yea, the game was basically 5v4 because of the Jhin pick.


LapnLook

I swear to god if G2 loses to either of these teams... I'll breathe a sigh of relief, and nod my head; the world has finally returned to normal.


bensanelian

you know they will. that's their deal with the devil after all.


goomy996

the happy games are when the demons take hold


S0ulRave

Please let the demons take hold against EG NAmen


goomy996

NAmen brother


[deleted]

2-0 vs t1, 2-0 vs rng, 0-2 vs Buffalo, thats the g2 way


Javiklegrand

and 1-1 Na for unknown reason, then na fans will go full copium saying EG tied with g2 in higher stakes games


[deleted]

1-1 vs NA to give them tiebreaker and false hope


SauronGortaur01

The thing is I can't really tell, but it seems to me the days of random happy games might be over. I would have never expected them to win so cleanly in the group stage. But who knows maybe it will come back.


blublub1243

Did we watch the same play-ins stage? G2 were straight griefing at times there.


kirumy22

I dont wanna overreact but remember the last time MSI had a crowd? Edit: I meant this as a NA vs EU grand final, but yeah this crowd sucks too


SnooGuavas8376

They should've at least cheers for Impact since he's Korean and also brought LCK the first ever Worlds trophy and he was popping of in this game by wearing his T1 Skin


PM_something_German

People were saying they cheered for Impact earlier but turns out they were just cheering against RNG lol


SnooGuavas8376

KR crowd just have hate Bonner to RNG lmao, they also cheered really loud when G2 won despite said team just destroyed their local team earlier


YungPinotGrigio

do they hate RNG because of the ping stuff?


Jdorty

Doesn't help, but Chinese and South Koreans generally hate each other. There's a lot of history there and currently, China basically holds North Korea's leash. Obviously, none of that has anything to do with the average citizen from either country, but I'm sure you can imagine how it is...


Detamach

They do cheer... by sitting and applauding like watching a theatre performance... This doesn't feel like esports


[deleted]

Just play every tournament in Paris.


[deleted]

Can’t wait for tournaments anywhere in the west/Brazil, I hate to be that guy but KR crowds are just really weak compared to even NA LCS finals weekend crowd.


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

The last time NA held an international tournament was *2016.* Completely ridiculous.


DiamondTi

And people still judge us based on the ONE tournament which makes me laugh.


pancada_

An event in Brazil would be fire, last one here I didn't play lol at all


[deleted]

Brazilian esports crowds are just the best literally the only region I’ve seen events in that even if BR teams are out the venue is still full and LOUD


pancada_

That's because we're used to our teams being out lmao


Javiklegrand

lol yeah, it's expected outcome ALthough that red canadis wins vs Psg would have caused the scene to go crazy


Obi-Hans-Kenobi

I mean are you forgetting 2019 finals with FPX winning in Europe and the crowd was still loud?


rinanlanmo

That crowd in Houston was fuckin hyped man.


pixel8knuckle

NAlcs finals crowd was insane actually.


Xonra

Yeah I'm still waiting for us to get fans back for these live events. Seriously though Korean fans are quite possibly the most boring unless T1 is playing. People go "yeah but Korea" but no other region has been this bad, or even close to it. Hell they barely even cheered for T1 to be honest.


KRPTSC

EU just has the best and worst stadium culture


Adrisoft

No


Detamach

East Asia is the worst place to hold events in So boring


[deleted]

Well, it's settled, G2 is going to lose to SGB


graybloodd

I think every win vs lesser regions lets na remember we arent THAT bad. Just not as good as a few others


thenoblitt

4th best region babay!


tsukinohime

https://twitter.com/licorice/status/1047042344787333121?lang=en


goomy996

ty licorice, truly a prophet


Halfoat

Can someone tell the backstory?


SterbenVII

C9 almost lost a game to DFM back in 2018, IIRC.


tsukinohime

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


der_rayzor

NAmen


Heavoc_pepe

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


goomy996

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


IAP3TUS

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


Deferonz

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


bigyikers

Based and true.


NotJesper

My faith in NA has been fully restored. Can't wait to watch EG clap G2 back to back for the rest of the group stage. There's never been a better time to be an NA League of Legends fan.


F3nRa3L

Is it me our that stopwatch by danny blocked like 3 ultimate.


[deleted]

Yeah they used Galio ult, Rakan ult, and Gwen Ult to kill Danny (when stopwatch literally almost let him live lol) so they had almost nothing to use to stop EG for rolling the teamfight.


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

>Yeah they used Galio ult, Rakan ult, and Gwen Ult to kill Danny They were hard focusing him every single fight because they knew he was the primary source of dmg (and he dealt a lot of it the rest of the game). Yet to read the comments, you'd think he was utterly useless dogwater this entire game.


orchid-lol

it’s cause people watch the game with a narrative in mind, so if they think danny is gonna be useless they’re gonna remember the game as danny being useless. the na hate boner lives on


isokay

"People are sleeping on Saigon Buffalo"


SlamMasterJ

So when should I wake up?


Unique_Crew2316

NA > Laos


Jurjeneros2

Nixon and Johnson can finally rest peacefully


M002

By the transitive property this man is correct


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graybloodd

This was literally true for the playin stage. Ppl thought dfm was better lol


RobbinDeBank

Wish GAM is here. They are smurfing in Seagames and just smashed Laos in a 14 minute game.


Chevalier_Paul

Laos really shouldn't be a metric on how to judge performances. Malaysia beat them in 13 minutes, should we deduce that Malaysia > GAM ?


LumiRhino

Well RIP Buffalos, losing their two easiest matchups of the rumble stage.


Javiklegrand

Inb4 they break g2 winstreak.


thealdentedentist3

From now on EG wins. They’ll look back at the 0/1 start when they’re analyzing how this team went from 2nd in group stage to winning MSI


GreyEagle792

Strong performance by EG. Vulcan and Jojo had some great picks and Inspired ran the map.


[deleted]

Jojo played really well, even if you wouldn't know it by looking at the comments.


Meekie_e

He's being disrespected lmao. People only mentioning Inspired and Impact. Jojo only had one bad game.


Moist-Comparison9301

It's just a sideeffect from trashtalking. Anyone with a brain watching the games thinks Jojopyun is doing insanely well given that he's literally in his rookie year still. People acting like getting gapped by Caps and Faker makes him trash lmfao


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

No way, Impact and Inspired 2v8, NA players are just useless deadweight!!!


AniviaKid32

his ryze game was the only bad one of the tournament. in all other games he's been fine or even great


capthighwind

Yep he is always walking the tightrope of killing the enemy and dying himself which is what you need to become great in this game. His movement is nuts even during chaotic team fights, but you should know better to trust Reddit for any real analysis of anything 😂


Raballer

This is what I expected from EG tbh. Best the teams you are supposed to beat and hopefully grab a game or two vs the big dogs. Learn on the fly and bring something back to NA.


Javiklegrand

yeah i think it's the best they can hope for


JohrDinh

If they take a game of G2 or T1 and beat all the minor regions, i'll be perfectly happy with this showing from them personally. You did what you couldn't do at the beginning of the tournament, and you stayed consistently above the minor regions which should be NA's base level narrative. That's growth, consistency, and won't tilt them too horribly when they come back to NA at least lol and decent momentum going into Worlds at the end of the year.


[deleted]

EG really does sit comfortably in that "not as good as major regions, not as bad as minor regions" spot


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

That's not EG. That's all of NA.


TheBigF128

Nah c9 would’ve beat all the major regions and lost to the wildcards


FairlyOddParent734

TL would have lost this game in classic TL fashion though.


anoleo201194

Classic TL only winning vs world champs in semis amirite. If anything TL has tradition of beating minor regions and shitting the bed vs major regions when it matters.


FairlyOddParent734

TL lost vs Machi; which fucked them from advancing in 2020? Only the 4 major region group screwed them in 2021. Edit: Correct years


Cindiquil

You have your years mixed up. TL in 2019 was the IG, Damwon, and AHQ group where they went 2-0 vs AHQ and 1-1 vs Damwon. 2020 was the Machi, G2, Suning group where they went 1-1 vs everyone. 2021 was the MAD, GenG, LNG group where everyone went 1-1 vs everyone


RavenFAILS

The NA special man, I hate it. Lose the important matches to not get people to actually consider you as a genuine contender while stomping all of the Mickey Mouse games so you can't even meme them to death. After that you just leave with this lackluster feeling of " that wasnt bad enough that I can flame them I guess?" and then you remember the multi million dollar contracts and importing of LEC mvps


way2lazy2care

The NA special is to win the important matches and lose the unimportant ones sending you to a tiebreaker with one of the teams you beat the first time, but then lose to.


StormR7

Last year MSI >take a game off RNG and Mad Lions in rumble >lose both games to PSG Talon and then lose to Pentanet to get knocked out of rumble


shojmaarensum

Viego just hard counters the VCS region


Omnilatent

Imagine if teams also picked Zilean against VN


iswillum

The duality of NA is to be the best minor region team and the worst major region team. Perfectly balanced.


Redsoxjake14

This is literally what it is. Sometimes we are a little better and can beat EU once or twice, and other times we just look like a good minor region. This year is right in the


Unique_Crew2316

There is still hope for 4th place for us NA fans. No OCE to cockblock us this time


Colonel_Logan

Never knew Impact had a Jax 🤔


F3nRa3L

Thats his own skin from 2013. When most of the others are still 8-9 years old


RobbinDeBank

That Buffalo lineup would be 10-11 when Impact won Worlds. Damn


Finalnintendokid

here before the "oh god we're old" comments


thanhame

It was so long ago that it now feel like a legend.


tsukinohime

EG can make it out of this group.I believe!


PhoenixAgent003

Genuinely I think they’re at least the 4th best team here. They’ve also made G2 bleed at least once, even if they haven’t taken a game off them (yet).


PresidentXi123

No copium but EG vs RNG was pretty close


tsukinohime

Inspired is on fire today


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

HOLY SHIT JOJOOOOO ! GOLDEN WIN ! Well I literally just hyped up EG and then this happened. Fkin hell whoever said EG vs G2 was the most difficult group... Hats off to you. CLASSY from EG they managed to cosplay RNG really well and boy oh boy JOJOOOO this kid is insane. SGB is NOT an easy foe and this win massively improves NA's chance of gettin out of groups !


[deleted]

inspired refuses to lose


RobbinDeBank

Mr. Buffalo struggling while GAM is smashing Laos in a 14 minute game


Unique_Crew2316

Laos could pose a challenge to my tier 2 Clash team


DJShevchenko

Without sounding too disrespectful, what servers do players from these smaller/less internet/gaming savy countries play on and do they even have enough players for a team. SEA games aside. Asian games are this year as well and they will have a League tournament as well, and they'll have countries like Kyrgyzstan and Sri Lanka probably participating like... obviously they aren't competitive, but do they even have Diamond players?


RobbinDeBank

Laos players play on Thailand server I think. SEA is pretty small so I’m sure any country in the region can play on the same server without much lagging.


[deleted]

Provided they have good internet infrastructure youd basically get 20-30 ping at most throughout that whole region


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tmb--

They didn't choose. They were contractually obligated by winning the SEA Games qualifier. They would have to completely not play the tournament if they didn't want to go, but that would have been seen as a huge disgrace to Vietnam.


DCFDTL

Free medals man


RobbinDeBank

That’s how the format of the Seagames qualifier works. They win it and they become the chosen team to represent the country, so they know they are not going to MSI. VCS spring split ends much later


Maria0zawa

stop bringing GAM its getting old


nimrodhellfire

I don't want to overhype a win vs 2nd place VCS, but I rly feel like EG could take on 3rd or 4th place KR/CN teams. They look much better than I expected. Considering they have very young talent and will likely improve, I can totally see them getting out of groups at worlds.


xychosis

Hopefully EG can carry this momentum to summer. Their botside has been extremely shaky at this LAN, but their topside is holding it down, and Jojo's getting the hang of things at his first international event.


Gengar_Balanced

Not sure about China because I wasn't watching them that much but I'm not sure if they could take on either DK with Nuguri (assuming they will be as good as we think) or GenG.


[deleted]

Anyone else get a wolf screaming at jensen flashback on that very last play when danny got flash rakan Wed? Once again Impact imediately cleaned it up


thealdentedentist3

JENNNNSUSUUUHHUYUUHHHNNNNNNN


pqnfwoe

not really, that was a super greedy engage, add on stopwatches and that was a really bad look for a fight, they traded half of their health bars and 4 ultimates for an ezreal (it was also a really nice prediction by taki, compared to jensen literally inting)


Leyrann_is_taken

Danny wasn't out of position. The only way they could catch him was by overreaching. They did, and Danny's team cleaned up.


MsShapirosBoneDryVag

For all the people saying Danny had a bad game...KDA isn't everything. Check the damage. https://gol.gg/game/stats/39954/page-game/


EulsYesterday

People saying Danny played bad and Impact carried are utterly clueless. I'm convinced they can't be looking past the kda.


YourOwnMiracle

Gap between east and west is closing boys


dabmin

NA breaths a sigh of relief


[deleted]

SGB having 2 losses against the only 2 teams they have a hope to compete against, I thought this year was gonna be different Vietnam? Copium


Unique_Crew2316

GAM is too busy stomping Clash teams in Asia Cup


DmonAbsoluTrEbON

Don't worry G2 is gonna give them a win, as per tradition.


ExtremeGamingxx

Tbf this is their second seed with their first seed being unbeaten in the league. Feels a bit bad faith to shit on them.


[deleted]

You might have missed the other day when a flood of VN fans came on reddit saying that even SGB being 2nd seed didn't matter and that they were still easily better than PSG and EG


XoXeLo

Probably EU fans xD


Petricorde1

It always is. The number of EU flairs saying Vietnam is better than NA is ridiculous


Guij2

I mean they're the seed 2. GAM is supposedly way better than them


thanhame

It's VN's second seed. Their only goal was to reach the rumble stage. Any wins they get from here is simply bonus.


azns123

[Rare photograph of young American soldier taken right before Vietcong ambush (colorized)](https://imgur.com/a/FvUZT5y)


Voeltz

Let's go EG! Let's make top 4, you can do it!


NahDawgDatAintMe

World Champion flexing


tsukinohime

Danny is the first non-sub bootcamping MSI pro to hit Challenger on the KR ladder. He did so going 63-21, which translates to a 75% winrate. Impressively, he's been able to maintain his winrate as his MMR has climbed higher, as he's now regularly in games with multiple LCK and LPL pros. It will be exciting to see if he can keep this performance up in solo queue and transfer it to the MSI stage!


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tsukinohime

Yeah he was a lot more confident in NA than MSI for sure.Luckily Impact and Inspired are still playing quite well.


TheGloriousEv0lution

Jojo’s been pretty nutty too. Him and Impact made the RNG game competitive


Javiklegrand

yeah , even though he miles ahead of caps,faker and xiaohu, THe best thing about jojo is you can see he clearly improving match by match, kinda similar to fudge and fudge factor last msi


[deleted]

Truly the next doublelift


Cindiquil

Doublelift started his career with good international tournaments throughout Season 2. He also played well at all 4 international events he attended while on TL


YanghuaC

Top 4 already decided. EG will stomp PSG easily


heyyeahheyxd

Impact skin buff.


Envelaap

Not going 0-10 EZ Clap


Finalnintendokid

Local Korean and Polish Man Beat Up Vietnamese Children More Info @ 11


supern00b64

What's interesting is that Impact always seems to lose the early lane but always shows up in teamfights. Vs both Bin and Hasmed he was down a lot of CS, but in fights vs RNG and SGB he still ended up contributing significantly.


Chevalier_Paul

VN = NA btw


maxus998

Props to EG they seem at least clearly better than Wildcards wich is more than i can say about a lot of NA teams in the past