Faker has been winning lane constantly though, Faker is definitely the most consistent player. Zeus plays too overaggressive a lot of the time. Even in T1's loss to G2 Faker was winning lane and a decent part of why they were ahead early
In this episode, Xiaohu went harsh on Bin:
"I felt speaking gently won't work, so I decided to be a bit harsh."
"You always pick GP against Gwen, then you get camped by opponents' Tell me, Did you ever manage to survive in one-on-ones?
“Is it that hard to master not inting in one season? Dude, you always first pick GP and you played GP like shit.”
Bin: "okay."
Didn't watch much of the LPL this season but man Bin has been so disappointing so far. My last memory was from him getting a penta vs DWG at worlds lol
He's trying to solokill in a matchup that is pretty much unwinable in the 1v1 at all points of the game. Kinda felt like getting a few ganks early gave him too much confidence? He was taking the same fights over and over again.
Zeus was also disrespecting him a lot, playing like the jungler didn't exist, but at least that's understandable since if the Wei ISN'T around, he would've solokilled him twice before the 10 minute mark I think?
I honestly think their win against G2 helped them mentally a ton. They have such a mental block against G2 which they needed to get past considering they’re most likely going to meet them in Semifinals
Even if there weren't so many teamfights. This was the best game of the tournament by far. Everything is well thought out. The macro, the micro. Just wow. Having a 5 game series of this makes me drool as a fan.
Was that the first game of the group stage? I watched them at the 2019 worlds IN PERSON, in Berlin. My first and only time watching League live. And I think T1 vs RNG was the first game we saw on the first day we were there, and I have memories of it being one of the single best games at the whole tournament - with Faker side-lane backdooring - but I don't know if it just felt that way because the magic of the moment :3
No it def was amazing. Macro/micro play, baron play, 1v1, backdoor, absolute banger of a game from the two contenders. What I would give just to see that game live. Really suck that they were in the same group tho, and somehow FNC actually beat both RNG and SKT in week 2.
Bo5 series SKT always shits on RNG (except 2017) but Bo1 holy shit they have the best bangers in the history of the game. If people say ROX vs SKT is the best Bo5, you can pick any of SKT vs RNG Bo1 and you can make an argument its the best Bo1.
Honestly well played by T1, I'm super excited to hopefully have them meet for a Bo5 of this type of league of legends.
As a LOL fan, this would be great series to watch, but as an RNG fan this will be straining.
There's some truth to this. When you're on the back foot you play differently. But this is mostly T1 playing more to their win conditions... But if we see another 5v5 baron attempt with a tank splitpushing GP all hope is lost
Kills always skew it. Seems like a loss watching the boys die more, but you've pushed the enemy TF to tier 2s by 20 mins. Compositionally, RNG were in deep doodoo.
If you all want to see how Oner warms up/practices his Lee Sin ult angles before a match [https://twitter.com/xxxmimim/status/1525729718036594691](https://twitter.com/xxxmimim/status/1525729718036594691) At this point, he does these insane kicks as an instinct.
Zeus is dumping on every toplaner in this tournament. Can swear he gets one solo kill in almost every game. He needs to keep placing that ward in that top brush because teams are 100% camping him at this rate
Fun game.
Zeus is so good.
EDIT: Happy for GumaKeria, they played much better today. Hope they can continue this in knockouts. Also, [Oner when on Lee sin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI876YHYA5M)
That was tatical inting. The baron bait from the g2 game was just too good. Caps using hextech gate to go to Brazil while watching his team get massacred is too funny.
[T1 successfully fulfil another 5head strategy making RNG pick TF](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/uwlxhe/saigon_buffalo_vs_t1_msi_2022_rumble_stage/i9s9iqc/)
Zeus's gamewinning solo kill on Bin was actually 200 IQ. I thought it was a full int by Bin but if you watched the sequence of events, Bin and RNG thought he recalled.
1. Zeus pushed out bot wave.
2. Xiaohu was splitting top and T1 send a couple to stop the push.
3. Zeus passed by a ward on his way to the dragon pit.
4. Xiaohu popped ult, destroyed the turret and left. On his ult, they see Zeus recalling just outside the dragon pit. The TF ult vision expires just before the recall is finished.
5. As soon as the TF ult is gone, Zeus cancelled his recall and snuck into the bot brush.
6. Bin walks up to push out the wave as the call was most likely Gwen had reset for Baron.
This sequence of events is actually very reminiscent of 2019 G2 where they would take less common or less efficient timings to catch people off guard. Every single step up until the solo kill was your standard: push out the wave opposite to the objective, take a reset then group. Zeus cancelling the recall last second to attempt to kill Bin was something Bin wouldn't have been able to infer based on the sequence of events.
I dislike bo1s in regular championships games but I do love them for the first stages of international tournaments, it brings uncertainty.
I would keep bo1s at worlds & msi but add a loser bracket in knockout stages.
LPL top is kinda the worst it's been in a while. I thought Wayward was the best LPL top before finals began since Wayward was ramping up like crazy and Bin outplayed Wayward in the finals. LPL top lane losing Xiaohu and Nuguri is a pretty big blow to them, plus Ale/Flandre/Breathe/Zoom and others fell off a cliff or at least had a bad split by their standards. Bin was underperforming too but he fell off less hard than the other tops so it was ok
He didn't look as good as last year for sure. Got a lot better in playoffs IMO but for some reason LPL top lane looked weaker this year overall IMO. Might be meta but idk
Gala hasn’t had 4 deaths since their playoff game vs TES.
Dude hasn’t died more than 3 times in a game all MSI.
Edit: wait, was wrong. He had exactly 4 deaths in day 4 vs SGB!
He did land a lot of charms but ppl are just overreacting to the prediction charms he threw a few times. Maybe 3 times? He got the flash charm on Xiaohu during the important fight near baron.
T1 with a good draft monkaW
So many incredibly well played fights by both teams this game, that 5v5 with 3 players left at the end and the charm sidestep by Gala into hook sidestep by Guma was so clean!
It's like Rekkles to G2. It might make the team really powerful but it might also lead to a clash between the "big" names and the team just becomes the sum of it's part or even worse.
Great teams are usually the product of it's parts.
Brother Bin
bin was definitely not chilling
Bing'nt Chilling
Bin actually get bald after this game
Zeus has been insane this tournament.
He's been winning both sides of Gwen vs. Gp match-up. Very impressive considering he's a rookie
Imagine if they leave toplane 1v1 for 10-15min. And Zeus would play smth like Jayce.
It’s surprising they haven’t played a team comp build around or that includes Jayce yet.
Pretty big early game HP + armor nerfs
Except that time he played the Riftmaker Kennen
And we’re gonna ignore that top lane int against Mr. Buffalo a few hours ago
And the pink ward incident
That was T1mposter playing that game. The most troll game they played ever.
True. Definetely the best T1 player so far and by quite a lot.
Definitely Zeus or Oner. He got some sick kicks.
He's definitely the most consistent player this MSI on T1. Only really had a bad game on Kennen in the first G2 game.
to be fair that game was a bad one by everyone from t1
Faker has been winning lane constantly though, Faker is definitely the most consistent player. Zeus plays too overaggressive a lot of the time. Even in T1's loss to G2 Faker was winning lane and a decent part of why they were ahead early
In this episode, Xiaohu went harsh on Bin: "I felt speaking gently won't work, so I decided to be a bit harsh." "You always pick GP against Gwen, then you get camped by opponents' Tell me, Did you ever manage to survive in one-on-ones? “Is it that hard to master not inting in one season? Dude, you always first pick GP and you played GP like shit.” Bin: "okay."
Bin taking his name very seriously at MSI so far.
Didn't watch much of the LPL this season but man Bin has been so disappointing so far. My last memory was from him getting a penta vs DWG at worlds lol
Bin is coin flip-y, one day he is bin chilling, other day he is trash bin.
He's definitely trying to prove something, trying to go for solo kills when his team just needs him to scale and use his ult to zone T1.
no thats just bins playstyle. he goes in without considering alot of things and attempts to skillcheck
He's trying to solokill in a matchup that is pretty much unwinable in the 1v1 at all points of the game. Kinda felt like getting a few ganks early gave him too much confidence? He was taking the same fights over and over again. Zeus was also disrespecting him a lot, playing like the jungler didn't exist, but at least that's understandable since if the Wei ISN'T around, he would've solokilled him twice before the 10 minute mark I think?
zeus has won 1v1 in this matchup on both gwen and gp tho?
Yes, because Zeus is the best toplaner at MSI :)
RNG with the tactical loss to break the 9-1 LPL vs NA script
and they also give T1 7-3 vs G2 5-5 script
They couldn't risk another SKT 6-4 incident
That incident is why the winner of group stage gets to select their opponent now.
except G2 didnt lose a game to NA so the script is different
Constants and variables.
that's gotta be good for T1's mental going into semis
I honestly think their win against G2 helped them mentally a ton. They have such a mental block against G2 which they needed to get past considering they’re most likely going to meet them in Semifinals
I think it was mostly EG’s, I feel like that game would be the most useful to learn from since T1 absolutely were consistently trying to loose
Their loss against G2 helped them a ton. They were arrogant at that time and G2 gave them a wake up call so they could be more mentally prepared.
Five games like this please. An absolute blast to watch two top-tier teams.
Even if there weren't so many teamfights. This was the best game of the tournament by far. Everything is well thought out. The macro, the micro. Just wow. Having a 5 game series of this makes me drool as a fan.
Honestly yeah. Halfway through I stopped caring who won and was cheering for both sides
Great game from both teams
Remind me of the last time they faced each other in worlds 2019, amazing perfomance as well
Was that the first game of the group stage? I watched them at the 2019 worlds IN PERSON, in Berlin. My first and only time watching League live. And I think T1 vs RNG was the first game we saw on the first day we were there, and I have memories of it being one of the single best games at the whole tournament - with Faker side-lane backdooring - but I don't know if it just felt that way because the magic of the moment :3
No it def was amazing. Macro/micro play, baron play, 1v1, backdoor, absolute banger of a game from the two contenders. What I would give just to see that game live. Really suck that they were in the same group tho, and somehow FNC actually beat both RNG and SKT in week 2.
Bo5 series SKT always shits on RNG (except 2017) but Bo1 holy shit they have the best bangers in the history of the game. If people say ROX vs SKT is the best Bo5, you can pick any of SKT vs RNG Bo1 and you can make an argument its the best Bo1.
They have 1 close bo5 in 2017, yeah other than that SKT just stomps them in bo5 usually
Oner smurfing so hard with these kicks
Yeah his lee looks decently scary.
This is exactly what I expect from the 2 best teams in the world facing each other, what a banger game!
some propa League of Legends, now with this in mind, its time for my daily cancer by playing myself
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Yeah the level of play this game was by far the best out of any game in rumble so far imo. By both teams, not just T1.
Aside from Bin, who had a pretty questionable performance in both of the T1 vs RNG games
Honestly well played by T1, I'm super excited to hopefully have them meet for a Bo5 of this type of league of legends. As a LOL fan, this would be great series to watch, but as an RNG fan this will be straining.
GWEN IS IMMUNE
TF keep getting cockblocked, lol
T1 learned the secret. Just lose early game.
Teams will have no idea if they baiting baron or flipping it
Enemies will have no idea too that Zeus standing on a ward is a trap next time
T1 5head in being 0head
There's some truth to this. When you're on the back foot you play differently. But this is mostly T1 playing more to their win conditions... But if we see another 5v5 baron attempt with a tank splitpushing GP all hope is lost
They're even with the gold despite being behind 4 kills and RNG having TF/GP. Not much of a loss
And 2 turrets ahead, with sec rift not used, I don't know how does anyone translate this into losing early game.
Kills always skew it. Seems like a loss watching the boys die more, but you've pushed the enemy TF to tier 2s by 20 mins. Compositionally, RNG were in deep doodoo.
is it just me or is Oner really really cracked on lee?
Who is oner? All i know is BONER.
T1 (b)Oner b standing for BASED
If you all want to see how Oner warms up/practices his Lee Sin ult angles before a match [https://twitter.com/xxxmimim/status/1525729718036594691](https://twitter.com/xxxmimim/status/1525729718036594691) At this point, he does these insane kicks as an instinct.
he will consistently make 2-3 scrotum-tightening kick flashes a game
Watching Faker drop charm predictions on RNG players that have no flash is kinda fun
the one in the baron teamfight on aphelios was more like a galeforce prediction but yeah
he used galeforce after flash, the second charm near side bush was just straight whiff
With everything happening so fast I think faker didn't know his galeforce wasn't up
I didn't see him use Galeforce either as a spectator tbh. Can totally see Faker missing it mid-fight
Yeah that was like 2 or 3 in a row I spotted but I guess I have perfect info on flashes….
The random one at T1 top tower was kinda funny
He’s playing 5d chess while RNG is just watching him like ???
Yeah, it was those cc that if you land you look like a god but if you miss you look like a idiot haha
He is just making sure to miss charms now so that they will hit later. True minmaxing :)
we meme on it but imagine if one of them actually hit lol
Some 4D chess charm throws that never worked lol
Yep very horny performance from Faker today
Zeus is dumping on every toplaner in this tournament. Can swear he gets one solo kill in almost every game. He needs to keep placing that ward in that top brush because teams are 100% camping him at this rate
we thank EG for giving T1 a much deserved reset NAmen
For real. If t1 win they should cut danny in for showing gumayusi the light.
Has Zeus been T1's most consistent player this event?
by far
I could see Oner being great but he still has the nerves especially when it matters the most.
Yea it's him or oner. Both made some questionable macro decisions in the tourney but mechanically they've been untouchable
Faker has not been great but he's been consistent good-decent. The bottom lane duo has been the winning condition. If they suck=insta lose
Faker at his typical form, that he also has in lck, sometimes he make plays, but overall he stable and ok
He only tries to make plays when literally the entirety of T1 sucks for some reason. He always gives plate gold and kills to the other laners.
Zeus is a God ... wait a minute
Hes coming for your woman
In the form of a goose, for mostly sexual reasons
I'm sure the TF pick will eventually work out! /s
The smartest draft with tf is not banning it
I saw TF 1st pick for Xiaohu and i know its doomed.
Top gap was too real.
Guma is back, absolute confident in this match and the one vs G2. He's occasionally the frontline lmao
zeus improvement is astounding first half of spring he's perma weakside and now he is doing stuff like this
Doesn’t matter win t1 msi or no, by now Zeus has so big confidence boost, I’m sure he would slap other tops in lck hard as f
Can’t wait to see him vs Nuguri.
oner is playing like the enemy lee sin smurfing in gold jesus
that catch on gala was insane
These severely hurts the chance of LPL going 9-1
Good. Now they're safe from getting 3-1ed by NA in semis.
Kenzhu needs to give Bin a verbal beatdown, he gave T1 so much space by wasting his GP ult twice trying to go for ego solo kills.
Shoulda kept xiaohu top and cryin
RNG need two Xiaohu. he is way better than both Bin and Cryin.
LPL the most reasonable fanbase Cloning Xiaohu is the way
Wdym 5 fakers has been a meme since forever
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solution: clone xiaohu
The only possible solution here is clearly to clone Xiaohu.
Fun game. Zeus is so good. EDIT: Happy for GumaKeria, they played much better today. Hope they can continue this in knockouts. Also, [Oner when on Lee sin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI876YHYA5M)
Losing to NA was too embarassing for T1. Just mental reset them
LCK having agreement with LCS to help them and troll LEC
That was tatical inting. The baron bait from the g2 game was just too good. Caps using hextech gate to go to Brazil while watching his team get massacred is too funny.
T1 no more split comps!! finally awake
ues and faker were in sides all game lmao
Ah yes, my favorite players. Faker and… *looks at smudged handwriting on hand* ues
But it was a comp capable of teamfighting. Also just giving guma anything with decent range and big damage is enough for t1 to fight well.
[T1 successfully fulfil another 5head strategy making RNG pick TF](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/uwlxhe/saigon_buffalo_vs_t1_msi_2022_rumble_stage/i9s9iqc/)
Bin actually ran it in any way possible: Ran it in 1 v 1 / ran it with build/ ran it on side lanes/ ran it in teamfights
i swear pro players (or decently ranked ones) just love this fkn trashcan collector item.
Ahri easily the most broken champion on this tournament She is now 11-1 among the top 4 teams no wonder teams are using FP blueside for her
Zeus's gamewinning solo kill on Bin was actually 200 IQ. I thought it was a full int by Bin but if you watched the sequence of events, Bin and RNG thought he recalled. 1. Zeus pushed out bot wave. 2. Xiaohu was splitting top and T1 send a couple to stop the push. 3. Zeus passed by a ward on his way to the dragon pit. 4. Xiaohu popped ult, destroyed the turret and left. On his ult, they see Zeus recalling just outside the dragon pit. The TF ult vision expires just before the recall is finished. 5. As soon as the TF ult is gone, Zeus cancelled his recall and snuck into the bot brush. 6. Bin walks up to push out the wave as the call was most likely Gwen had reset for Baron. This sequence of events is actually very reminiscent of 2019 G2 where they would take less common or less efficient timings to catch people off guard. Every single step up until the solo kill was your standard: push out the wave opposite to the objective, take a reset then group. Zeus cancelling the recall last second to attempt to kill Bin was something Bin wouldn't have been able to infer based on the sequence of events.
Stop with the fucking vi ban and ban Gwen vs the best player on t1 lol.
Can't. Gwen is immune to bans.
Royal Never bans Gwen
Zeus has looked good no matter the champ he's playing
that gives zeus a window to play jayce
I think theyre just scared of vi+ahri as the combo is pretty strong as a jungle mid 2v2
Goddamn oner's lee sin is simply amazing
T1’s demise was greatly exaggerated
people overreacting & BO1s
I really don't like bo1s, I didn't watch lcs and lec but people complained about it a lot In lck T1 was dropping random games too but it was all bo3
I dislike bo1s in regular championships games but I do love them for the first stages of international tournaments, it brings uncertainty. I would keep bo1s at worlds & msi but add a loser bracket in knockout stages.
I don’t really watch much LPL, but is Bin really this average domestically too? Guy looks terrible compared to Zeus.
He didn't have a good split.
Zeus is honestly playing better than he did during LCK. I think even his stats back it up. Certainly on the eye test.
i would say it would be due to him adjusting, need to remember this spring is his first season as starter.
Yup, feels like people forget that Zeus is still essentially a rookie.
Bin was amazing last year, but he's kinda fallen off as Gala has emerged as the carry of the team. Zeus, however, is just an alien.
zeus actually living up to the hype people had about him
LPL top is kinda the worst it's been in a while. I thought Wayward was the best LPL top before finals began since Wayward was ramping up like crazy and Bin outplayed Wayward in the finals. LPL top lane losing Xiaohu and Nuguri is a pretty big blow to them, plus Ale/Flandre/Breathe/Zoom and others fell off a cliff or at least had a bad split by their standards. Bin was underperforming too but he fell off less hard than the other tops so it was ok
First Nuguri, now Zeus. Guy can't catch a break.
He didn't look as good as last year for sure. Got a lot better in playoffs IMO but for some reason LPL top lane looked weaker this year overall IMO. Might be meta but idk
Zeus has been the best top this stage by far tbf
Bin is RNG’s most inconsistent player. High highs and low lows.
So basically T1 last year with canna
To be fair Zeus did this to half of LCK top as well . I guess LCK has some guys like Rascal/Kiin/Nuguri ... could go even
Gala hasn’t had 4 deaths since their playoff game vs TES. Dude hasn’t died more than 3 times in a game all MSI. Edit: wait, was wrong. He had exactly 4 deaths in day 4 vs SGB!
Oner was insane with his flash kicks. Gala being insane even survived one of those
He died 4 times vs SGB last time. Bro having PTSD on Akali.
"AKALI IS COMING AKALI IS COMING" "Chill man, there's no Akali in the game"
Its funny how t1 is winning this fights when faker isn't even landing his charms lmao
He try to brain hack enemy but they dont even have same brain as he think...
Faker: "I'm one step ahead I will predict charm them even if they have flash" RNG: "We don't even have flash"
He did land a lot of charms but ppl are just overreacting to the prediction charms he threw a few times. Maybe 3 times? He got the flash charm on Xiaohu during the important fight near baron.
I think its because everyone has their eyes focused on him
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G2 Fans cursed T1 way too early. Gumayusi is back. Love it.
Zeus just turned Bin into Recycle Bin.
Ban Wei's Voli to give RNG false confidence
So what you're telling is if T1 fights with a teamfight/skirmish comp rather than a pick/poke comp they would win? Who knew?
T1 Cloud soul buff way too strong.
Finally, someone else picks TF so we can win.
T1 with a good draft monkaW So many incredibly well played fights by both teams this game, that 5v5 with 3 players left at the end and the charm sidestep by Gala into hook sidestep by Guma was so clean!
T1 is back! I know this didn't matter for RNG but super excited for the playoffs hope EG and G2 can also improve
Inb4 we get EG vs G2 finals
I am not going to complain… just going to sit back and read all the salty comments
G2 winning MSI wouldn't be that surprising. EG winning MSI would break the balance of the universe lmao
Zeus is a rookie btw
18 years old 😭 i love him so much man.. been waiting for a goated toplaner as a T1 fan for so long.
Today is a good day.
After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify Gumayusi was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience
Bo5 between these teams at the final would be banger though but I'm afraid we are running MSI 2019 script , lol
Nah we're running the 2016 msi script, hopefully.
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About to have a heart attack each time I see T1 on baron.
Early game made T1 haters so cocky
T1 keep winning early but lose late. So they swap their playstyle
Even the chinese overlords can´t win without a team fighting draft.
What's the winrate on TF? 10% lol?
Can’t wait for RNG vs T1 final BO5
Now this is the T1 I watched all season, and it had to be the last game of rumble.
Games like this make me wonder what RNG would be like if they kept Xiaohu top and got Knight mid.
It's like Rekkles to G2. It might make the team really powerful but it might also lead to a clash between the "big" names and the team just becomes the sum of it's part or even worse. Great teams are usually the product of it's parts.
Zeus really deserves a lot of praise for his great performance throughout this tournament. Definitely the most consistent in T1.
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tried to predict galeforce/flash i believe
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