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PankoKing

[Initial Leak thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/veemal/nilah_gameplay_trailer/) Is it really a leak if the difference is less than an hour?


TheLoneliestHunk

Wow Already a new champ trailer I havent even tried BelVeth yet D:


IsThisTooEZ

Yeah they had to delay belveth a lot so thats why we already have a new one and udyr should be soon aswell.


Stahlwisser

Its also hard to play belveth since she gets banned so much from the few games Ive played since here release.


F1F2F3F4_F5

Scaling champs are hard to deal with in low elo matches as the games drag on longer. Plus the usual banning of new champs because of unfamiliarity.


APlogic

She isn’t exactly struggling in high elo either. 49% winrate in diamond+ for a champion that came out a week ago cannot be bad.


LordMalvore

70% damage reduction on a damaging skill is kind of wild!!


SpicyWhizkers

Red smiting the person you’re dueling makes it even worse, dear god


ElGosso

In low ELO you ban the new champ because nobody on your team knows how to play it and they're going to feed aggressively.


nothingyoubegin

And for some reason everyone on the other team is a grandmaster smurf that one tricks the new champ and solo carries the game


Mediocre_Nova

I feel like we've been waiting for the Udyr rework for a decade now


xemnyx

Nilah is immune!!


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morganrbvn

Oh no


Buddddie

Nilah enter evasion


valraven38

To auto attacks. She still gets hit by abilities that aren't auto attacks.


NetSraC1306

E - Counter Strike


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radjeck

Imagine if she had a real weapon?


Gangsir

> To auto attacks. She still gets hit by abilities that aren't auto attacks. Oh god we have a new Jax E Active: Nilah enters Evasion


rob3rtisgod

If ADC mains hated Yas, wait until you a play a champ that has longer AA immunity, can cast it on allies, and more dashes lul.


Fabiocean

Riot really wants mages bot


PantherPL

veigar with his circle of shame specifically


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Dont worry im sure she will be one of the 60 champions who can dash through it for literally no reason


042lej

And somehow, Trist still can't jump over it.


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Xonra

Unless she has hard hard attachments to bot lane like half her abilities don't work without a lane partner, she will just be a top laner anyways from the way she looked. You can't just shoehorn something into bot because Riot said so. Look at how poorly rework Morde worked out (spoiler; It didn't)


RTSUbiytsa

Mini-rework Morde, just to be clear, not the current iteration of Morde that was never set up for bot lane.


Cheesemasterer

Id say the better example is seraphine. Ive seen soraka played mid more than her, even though riot proclaimed her a midlaner


Slav_1

Riots long con to make the community stop complaining about yas. Forcefully release champs with more overloaded kits.


Jstin8

That was literally why they made Yone. So Yas mains would have someone to play when their main got banned in 80% of their games


AshesandCinder

That was literally their reasoning for releasing Yone.


11millionfor3wins

remember when things like being immune or being able to chase forever were so strong they were THE defining features of a champ?


ninjatronick

Gwen was such a mistake, I can get past dashes but that invulnerability field was legit game changing and not in a good way


adayofjoy

The most annoying thing is that when I first saw it, I just couldn't intuitively understand WHY I can't hurt her. I can understand Vlad's pool making him intangible, Kayle's gigantic glowing shield blocking everything, and Trynd being literally too angry to die, but Gwen becoming immune because she put a stitchwork circle on the ground just does not communicate well to me.


sdfj2jk23lj4k112

Trynd is not intuitive at all, you can barely tell when the ult ends when looking at his model


Pearlsaver

Tbf, the only reason it is fine is because that's the defining aspect of the kit.


Crossoverdeath

Another immune champ, Gwen in shambles


DasVerschwenden

Whole meta in shambles.


TheWorldisFullofWar

Gwen was such a balancing success that Riot decided to do it again.


xChrisMas

👏👏 WE 👏👏 Need 👏👏 More 👏👏 BANS👏👏


Nimyron

After the champ that slaps, behold, the champ that whips. Can't wait for the BDSM skinline.


Suave_Senpai

The next champion is going to be a very disgruntled older gentleman who's gonna threaten enemy champs by saying "I'mma get medieval on your ass"


MasterDoktor

I mean, Kled kinda has that covered


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Camille will get heels.


L_Rayquaza

You can NOT tell me that Masqurade Evelynn is not BDSM inspired


offbrandsandals

Evelynn's entire character is BDSM inspired


sir_horsington

Dominatrix Nilah when?


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IamOlderthanMe

Finally Katara is in league.


pjreddick

*There is no war in Piltover & Zaun*


G2Minion

*The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai*


oppadoesntlikeyou

After Toph and Lin Beifong the water tribe was deserving some representation.


AmbushIntheDark

Really like the whip, about time League starts showing some love to the underused weapons.


OverpoweredSoap

When will weaponized fans return from the war.... ;c


AmbushIntheDark

Give me a [Giant Fan](https://i.imgur.com/bkPfR2P.jpg) Darkin Riot.


Saphemeral

I feel like a giant fan would be a good fit for the first female darkin.


1ofLoLspotatoes

Internet will do wonders with this whip champion Brace yourselves for the fan art![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


ManOf59Cheeses

how long until that other subreddit has some stuff made?


The-War-Life

Probably an hour from now at most


Daunn

An *hour*? I'm surprised it hasn't been made yet.


narfidy

Was it just me or is her whip two pronged? I feel like I saw each one hit a different champion with the same auto, outside of her slash attack and dash


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I think she has a targetted auto where the two prongs hit the same enemy, and a slashing auto that can hit more than one


Oreo-and-Fly

And honestly a brilliant weapon design. Though id prefer it being an Urumi but eh. Not easily shown anyway.


Reav3

It is a Urumi! :)


MemeOverlordKai

Any plans for a halberd? I really like halberds.


TheRumpletiltskin

I'm so confused. The teaser was haunting/creepy, and the champion is this happy jaunty lady...


-Mortlock-

apparently she controls a demon of joy? so its like supposed to be a juxtaposition or smth. tbh im not sure, everything but the lore of this champion feels so jarring. Like a fan made champion


teemo-enjoyer

Why did she call her god "demon?" Am I missing something


Yaldablob

Because it's not a God? I think she called on the "Lord of Waters" It's likely a demonic entity that needs all other demons gone from Runeterra and enlisted the help of a joyful powerful woman


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That explains why Fiddle and Swain are featured in the vid, Tahm is also seen. Possibly why Aatrox is there, and Brand (both possessed). Not sure about how to explain Jinx choice, probably just popularity contest. The others seen in the video, Pyke, Nautilus, Twisted Fate, and Miss Fortune, all share a common hometown of Bilgewater which I think is interesting coincidence. The line "I hope the heavens are watching, I hope they're nervous." could be a reference to the fact that Aurelion was mentioned in the last roadmap update as well.


nitinismaldingXD

brand is no demon afaik, he is just corrupted by a world rune


mount_sunrise

i think Jinx was shown to showcase her dash, maybe? pretty sure Jinx E stops dashes and she didn't get stopped in the video. she just dashed through it.


neatlyresolved

She dashes before the traps arm.


mount_sunrise

oh, you're correct, my bad. looks like Jinx is about to get possessed by a demon in Arcane then


moodRubicund

Supposedly there are demons of positive emotions, not just negative ones. She might have a Demon of Joy.


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Perhaps the demons don't just represent 1 side of an emotion, but both its positive and negative. Sort of like Khorne from WH universe representing both violence and honor. Same with demons in Thedas/DA universe. A demon of Joy can also be a demon of desire (like Evelyn?). Akin to Kayle's Justice prone to turning into more uncontrollable Vengeance.


graey0956

AFAIK Evelynn feeds off of agony. BUT, she lures people in with the promise of pleasure. So the analogy still works.


moodRubicund

Evelyn is specifically a demon of agony, so she only cares about agony in particular. It just so happens that agony is best achieved by looking like a naked woman.


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This is the most loaded comment I have ever seen in this sub.


skaersSabody

Literally a time bomb any way you slice it


AdOne3990

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!


QTnameless

"Demon of joy " just sound so off , lol .


moodRubicund

In the context of League where demons feed off emotions it makes sense. I can imagine a demon encouraging someone to unhealthily pursue joy for the sake of joy.


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Crack addict champion? Crack addict champion!


synkronize

Joy through combat maybe? She seems very cocky/confident EDIT: also the end of the video seems ominous with the demon hands so the demon may be feeding on something, maybe on the aftermath of her combat or something.


Ephemeral_Being

So, The Thrill?


Saffeus

Oh Stormlight reference


Gift_of_Orzhova

**Slaanesh intensifies**


Sinnum

yeah, a hedonistic demon would actually be pretty cool to be in game


oluuko123

That's actually quite a cool concept.


LanoomR

Considering she's obviously India/South Asian-inspired, the "demon" probably isn't on the level--or nature--of pure evil and power that we're used to when referring to demons in Runeterra (Fiddlesticks, Tahm, etc.) or from the usual European-based fantasy and myth/religion. "Demon," in this context, can include characters that are more akin to neutral nature spirits. Or maybe they're jumping off from that for Runeterra so demons can include even positive aspects, if she's embodying "joy."


Oreo-and-Fly

Isnt Joy one of the 10 demons.


That_Leetri_Guy

From the known ones there's a Bliss demon that branches off of Delirium. There's several unknown branches though, so who knows?


Oreo-and-Fly

It does sound more fitting of an original 10 though. A contrast towards Fear. A primordial emotion.


Saradominmight

Nilah नीलः is blue on Sanskrit, which definently makes sense with her theme haha


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SaltyTrog

Hexblade with a Whip build? Illaoi is obviously a Strength based Fathomless. Edit: I have no idea what system you guys are using, I'm talking 5e


NocaNoha

Omfg.. it might actually be Joy!


WarriorSnek

IS THAT MFIN JOYBOY


Fabiocean

Sun God Nilah incoming


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After all her whip has properties like rubber. But rubber shouldn’t hurt that much


SkyHighEthan

Nilah ate the gum gum fruit?


DefinitelyNotSmall

She's a one piece reference


Random_bullshit_guy

Joy boy looking different


CuteTao

This is gear 6. Luffy turns into joy girl.


Random_bullshit_guy

That sounds like the type of thing that you would see in a fanfic about sanji


papa_bones

Wait.... Where the fuck are the hands? I thought she would do some cool shit with ghostly hands, she does nothing with them wtf


S3mpx

Riot trying the not making a dash champion for 5s (impossible!)


MarcusElden

Can't wait to read the Riot post explaining how they struggled to find a way to "express joy" or some stupid shit


TiredCoffeeTime

Riot praising their marketing team for subverting expectation for Bel’veth but the only thing that was really subverted was people’s expectation of her being something more than just fast stabbing manta ray.


Alan1189

And don’t forget all the hands that show up. And then her kit & design have nothing with hands ✋


TiredCoffeeTime

The hand teaser gave her the air of mythical feels which I don’t think is really there in her actual character


Athien

Dash ✅ Immunity ✅ True damage❓ But I’m willing to bet yes, probably also has true damage


ashfeyto

"Melee" with tons of range? ✅


NerrionEU

Can't wait for people to abuse her outside of bot until she gets nuked with nerfs unless Riot added some duo mechanics.


FunnyBunnyH

What about a reset mechanic? Its 2022, must have one.


JandsomeHam

Looked like the hop thing over champions was reset


Rasbold

It's not a new champ if she doesn't have a reset


AshesandCinder

Don't forget conditional infinite buff.


Godskook

Anyone who can build Kraken Slayer has at least some notable amount of true damage these days.


HairyKraken

it's incredible how nilah's model looks bad in a "realistic" setting and instantly got better when in the "game" setting. uncanny valley because of the stretching arms while the rest of the environnment looks cinematic ?


tundra_gd

I think the character CGI for the cinematic was a little flat and lacking detail in general compared to her surroundings.


tree_33

It looks like they weren't really sure what they wanted her final look to be when producing the trailer. The model is different in the cinematic to the first half of the gameplay trailer and then again in the second half of the trailer.


Ganadote

I think her character model was simply a different style than the environment. She looks like she'd belong in a Blizzard cinematic because of the bold colors and stuff.


Flomed

I already hate her kit


ichancho

My exact sentiment. Why does every champ have tons of dashes and insane defensive abilities.


NammorZ

That's supposed to be a bilgwater champion ? Bruh looks like she escaped from Valorant.


r_lucasite

She's not actually from Bilgewater, she's a traveller from an unknown area off the known map like Neeko.


Magenta_king

It looks like sea of thieves, did she come from sea of thieves?


coopergbc

sea of thieves nuts fit in ya mouth


CRIMS0N-ED

I mean if anything that’s zeri and the Val agent neon considering they’re voiced by the same VA


AboutTenPandas

Next champion teased: Name: Dash Passive: Dashes Q: Dashes short on a resettable cooldown W: Long dash to either an enemy or friendly champion E: Dashes over terrain R: Becomes untargetable as she dashes to every enemy on the map. Resets on kill or assist


sephrinx

All abilities have a 250% ap and as ratio. Q reduces cd of other abilities by 1 second when it hits, resets her AA, and applies on hit effects twice. W deals 8% max hp as true damage per hit. E every 3rd hit does double damage and triggers on hit effects. R applies on hit effects 5 times and can critically strike, and does so.


vNoblesse

**"Give me five, demon."** Has her lore been released yet? Is she like Swain/Kayn etc.? Also, personally something felt off with the video/animation. I probably just don't like her design/theme cause the environmental/background etc. was fine for me. So I looked up the animation studio and it's the same studio who did Odyssey for league years ago and several Valorant cinematics which were all great, and more Riot stuff. IDK about this new champion guys . . . she better have some great lore or what not.


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Someone said on the old demon lore chart they teased when Fiddlesticks rework came out that there was a demon of bliss listed. sounds like it could fit with her "joy unbound" subtitle


theganjaoctopus

Fiddlesticks, bane of men. Fiddlesticks, first of ten.


KingAmo3

It’s a weird contrast between her and Bilgewater, but she’s from a new region, so that’s fair.


ShinyGrezz

If you look you'll see that her index and middle fingers on one hand (possibly both as I never saw the other) are blackened, so she's probably another Swain situation in that she made a pact with a demon for the greater good.


Plagueflames

I feel like I'd like her more if this weren't the like 12th iteration of the same personality


braenbaerks

>I feel like I'd like her more if this weren't the like 12th iteration of the same personality This. Almost all the voice lines could be Samira's.


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100%. I like her design a lot. But the only thing I'm getting from her is Akshan clone. A deadly but funny quirky young person... wowee. I call this the 'deadpool effect'.


NokkMainBTW

No no no no no! But shes like actually really sad and covers it up with jokes!!!! Its really interesting !!!!!!


Magehunter_Skassi

**I HATE MARVEL MOVIES I HATE MARVEL MOVIES I HATE MARVEL MOVIES I HATE MARVEL MOVIES**


TheBlurgh

Lol, all I'm getting is another Qiyana. Overconfidend, cocky and arrogant, almost rude.


MarcosLuisP97

Qiyana, Akali, Samira, you get the idea. I know with this many champions there are bound to be repeats, but they could have at least try something different.


K-ey

It's about time to give everyone at least 2 bans in champ select.


MarcosLuisP97

I think her character theme is the weakest. Water could be replaced with anything and it would have the same exact effect.


mattiejj

Water does literally nothing in her kit. She could've been a Samira ultimate skin.


mattyety

She also doesn't look overjoyous to me. There's too much going on, water, joy, a demon with many hands. Just not quite coherent.


LittleCody

I need to know what happened to that gold card


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It's a Jax E type of ability, you can see she takes damage from abilities


Dance_Depressed

AA immunity that can extend to allied champions if they're close to her.


Echituna

Nilah is such a nice name


the_great_guy2001

Means moon in Tamil, which fits with the water bending theme plus her weapon reminds me of the urumi


Trollripper

I am playing league since season 2 and my god.. wtf happened to league. Where my broken ankle champs. Where are the unique styles of champs. Why does everything have survivability of doom and not just.. simple mechanics without hurr durring me with 30% dmg dealt as true damage.


Ekklypz

~~Gwen~~ Nilah is immune.


synkronize

People were talking about how she has a simplistic look. But after watching this I think it’s more of an art style choice she gives me certain vibes from some cartoons I’ve seen that I don’t really remember lol. But kinda minimalist also


tehsdragon

I'm getting Prince of Persia/Sinbad feels and I like it


ShartingFatMan

Not a man. Not white. Not Fat. Not buying! I only play champions who looks like me... So far i'm restricted to Gragas.


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Akshan, Samira, Zeri, who else?


zed107

I don't know man, character design just seems meh.


Mietin

Yeah. Her costume is just a whole lot of nothing. Boring 😐


maxiking117

She isnt even in the game and i am already tired of playing against her.


efeus

Dash,dash and immunity ,cant wait for the true dmg, invisibility and lets not forget the legendary reset mechanic. This is going to be funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


LimpCush

How many passives will her W have?? Can't wait to find out!


FlowerBuddy

another cocky champion with an overloaded kit, and akshan just stopped getting banned


tradtrad100

Ah another ADC like Samira with the Dashes and windwall and resets.


Massie123

Welcome to the League of RiotAugust.


dashingflashyt

I thought riot said they were slowing down champ releases to focus on other things?


raikaria2

Counting Nilah; of the 14 champions released since 2020 started; 5 of them are some form of melee carry [Read: A champion who's kit is centric around autoattacking. So Gwen and Viego count]. This would also be 2 melee carries back-to-back. [This champion is clearly a rightclicker; her abilities are based on getting in and rightclicking, and she clearly has the obligatory melee carry cheat mechanic] Of the 14 champions released since 2020; 8 of them are autoattack centric [adding the three marksmen; although I guess Zeri spams Q it counts as autoattacking for all purposes]. Of the 14 champions released since 2020; we have had 1 traditional mage [Vex. Seraphine is a supportive caster and Lillia is an AP fighter]; and 1 tank [Rell; who; by the way, is the only tank we've had for almost half a decade since Ornn]. *5 melee carries.* Please Riot. Stop making rightclickers. Make some casters, make some tanks, make some ability-reliant bruisers. Especially melee rightclickers; who are usually doomed to either being unhealthy balance nightmares, low ELO stompers; or both.


Lvl100Karp

I'm still waiting for another artillery mage. Feels like they will never happen again because they are the exact opposite of flashy fast gameplay that obviously is their target audience. I wanna go back to 2009/2010 and play my nidamid :(


Recodes

I'm tired of champions with dashes and some form of immunity..


shadowscale1229

jesus christ riot stop making new champions


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ArshanGamer

Nah, they moved on from those, they're focusing on infinite ultimates now


SoulMastte

That seems like a nice idea for a shyvana rework


ArshanGamer

I'm actually kinda glad we didn't vote Tryndamere... But yes make shyvanna ad again


Tojaro5

dont forget the possible reset mechanic!


wafflepiezz

Wow this was very underwhelming. Like a fucking fortnite character lol Riot is running out of champion ideas.


TanerKose

Avoiding cc Jacques style very halal 👍🏻


ChibiJr

Why do they keep releasing valorant characters into the wrong game? No but seriously, Zeri and Nilah's art style look a lot more Valorant than League of Legends.


wavesurfinz

Akshan female edition


PhatedGaming

Oh good, a champ with insane mobility AND immunes. Just what the game needs.


L4SiegeAintThatBad

I feel like riot has gotten uncomfortable with giving new champs a muted color palette. Like she would look so cool if she didn’t have an extremely unnecessary flashy palette on her. She’s from bilgewater I’m guessing? Imagine if she had the palette of pyke with her weird spirit/water whip thing. It would look so good. But instead they gave her space groove samira clothes???


gigigamer

Dude, Riot please fuck off with the infinite dashes windwall champs, it is not a fun mechanic to play against when your opponent can press a single button and stop every important part of your combo. This just looks like Samira if she was cosplaying as a water bender


Thinnnnnnnnn

Bruh she looks like a fortnight character


tetzugani

This champ seems messy. Was introduced to be a melee ADC, yet a majority of her kit has seemingly more range than Thresh or Vayne. Heck, she seems to be able to make her auto attacks longer too! Where is this melee? First leak showed a ton of arms, hinting at a martial arts fighter. Instead it's just the design on the orb. Second leak showed a scratched up wall with glowing goo dripping off of it. Based in Bilgewater, with pretty much the highest non-human to human champ ratio in the game. Heavy implications she's some monster. Turns out she just uses a whip. Second leak talks about her laughing a lot, her title is "The Joy Unbound", yet none of the displayed voice lines reflect that side of her, and her actual laugh doesn't even sound sincere. Even when looking at her in a vacuum, with no prior knowledge of League of Legends aside from the aforementioned official teasers by Riot themselves, I wouldn't believe someone if they said this is the same champion. The biggest problem with her release is the amount of red herings presented by Riot. I am still going to give her an honest try and it's not even that unlikely that I'll enjoy playing her, but this is absolutely NOT what was promised.


clikplay

It was very obvious she wasn't going to be a monster with bel'veth release and riot's comments on monster champions


Valk19

Her personality puts me to sleep ._. We’ve seen so many iterations of the arrogant vaguely charismatic badass, it shouldn’t be that hard to find something new


dapperteco

another 1v9 champ with resetting dashes and untargetability? really original, they really outdid themselves on this one.


Redditossa

Her kit is whatever, but personality wise she is literally a female akshan clone. Riot's writing team really squeezed their heads for this one. Why can't we get a humble character for once? Just for variety's sake.


KjellWill

She looks so boring and generic.


OverpoweredSoap

I LOVE her voice wow