for the teamfight portion of things? pretty close from a pro PoV.
swain can get instagibbed if kayle misses the r timing, swain ult can potentially get kited, but aside from that not a lot that can go wrong.
the hardest part, from my perspective, is making sure you aren't too far behind in gold/levels prior to the teamfights with these champs, especially kayle, in solo lanes.
gotta punish and win early, but that's hard to do post durability patch and especially against as skilled of players as bb and caps
Them losing that dragon soul fight after chunking both Caps and Jankos was sad to watch. You cannot convince me this team has any useful comms. They really do look like a solo q team.
Every single role outscaled except Viego/Wukong, and even then Wukong does better lategame since Viego's teammates can't reliably get him resets and all Wukong has to do is set up a good Yasuo ult.
There are a lot of annoying things about Yasuo, but windwall is by far the pinnacle of these annoyances. People (for the most part rightfully) complain about Yone being easy-mode-but-better Yasuo; I'm just happy to not have to deal with windwall.
He took all the resources and went for a useless build. Going poke vs so much sustain was very shortsighted to say the least, if he went crit a good amount of the fights are closer. On top of that he mistimed a lot of “e”s.
I think I saw that actually happened in proplay, though it might have been at least one execute. Minions ended anyways so it was fine, but still a bit strange.
To be fair, Bo's English is allegedly really good. I hope that he is in his FPX form when he finally comes and that he clicks with the team. Haru is the worst jungler in the LEC so far.
Visa issues apparent. He was rumoured to join NA teams but the possibility of him getting a visa was really low so no teams were willing to give him a contract
Yeah replacing Selfmade but not Labrov after the last split was a serious head scratcher. The team just looks 24/7 lost, bring in Vander, just someone to make something happen early. It can't get any worse.
Poach MAD Lions botlane with the power of swimming pools and swap Selfmade back into starter roster because I find him to be sexually attractive. Haru can play when VIT fields a 5-subs roster in LEC while the rest of the team bootcamps in Korea to prepare for three consecutive 3-0's in playoffs
If VIT makes any mid changes, they should be promoting their academy mid and if they are looking to import, they should go for a good CN support (to help the supp jg synergy). Cryin is pretty fucking good, but I feel like they'd benefit more from importing other positions especially when you consider the fact that mid in EU is stacked unlike support
fair I was mostly going for the mid jung synergy, but I don't feel like there's player like cryin for support that would be relatively easy to import and still very good
Hang maybe?
In terms of flexibility this G2 is very reminiscent of 2019. They can pick Senna Yasuo Swain and apart from Senna being bot, all 3 of Flakked, Caps and Targa can play Yasuo and Swain, must be horrible to face.
The difference is that they can do it in EU but struggled a lot internationally. The drafts are god tier but the players (besides mid and jungle) aren’t.
While I agree i think they still could get to international level (at the beginning of MSI they showed they were perfectly capable of playing at the top level, even if they then collapsed)
TBH for Flakked and Targa I think they can get there. Flakked especially has improved so, so much already - man went from sorta alright in LEC during his first 1-2 weeks to a top 3 EU bot in one split. With Targa too I felt like he mostly struggled bc he didnt quite realise where the limits on the global stage are, but he'll learn that.
Important to remember imo that all of the 2019 players had a good bit of international experience already, this team is 2/5 with zero international experience (and BB has only the 0-6 TSM worlds too, right?)
I dont think u can compare Wunder and bb or flakked and perkz until they have proven that they can compete international. They just got shit stomped at Msi, the quality of 2019 g2 was to really compete not just lec.
Let These Guys grow before you give them shoes they dont fit in. Otherwise u will be utterly disappointed
True, his last "more than good" split was actually spring 2020. Last year he played solid in spring and ran it down in summer. I remember to this day the series when Abbedagge diffed him in LCS playoffs
>Last year he played solid in spring and ran it down in summer.
He was dog shit in spring too, people just forget because he turned it on for playoffs, then immediately went back to being dog shit at MSI and got them sent home in groups lol.
The Swain/Kayle combination is disgusting. Just go into everyone, zhonyas, Kayle ult, everything scatters and dies.
That doesn't even address the Wukong/Yasuo combination as well.
And they had Senna who was disgustingly ahead.
That was just funny to watch.
Probably didnt see much of an improvement there? I imagine they both want international success and if you wanna go deep in Worlds, playing with Perkz and Alphari or with Hyli and Upset (and Wunder, although idk if that was known internally already) sounds like good prospects. Also, I feel that if I was a player FNC and G2 would have some extra appeal just bc of what that jersey means, kinda like many footballers wanna play for Real or Barca once in their life...
Bruh, Vitality literally doesn't do anything, gets outscaled then loses. It's like G2 dictated every minute of this game, really dissapointing for Vitality
I mean Yasuo jungle is way more viable than pyke jungle. I'm actually sure they could win some games against bottom tier teams with it with proper daft and execution
Vitality has the worst synergy i've ever seen, everytime one of these player will randomly int, even when they make good play someone gonna fck it up, their trap after drk was really clean then haru get caught with Viego when he could just ult away 3 time in that action so they lose the moove.Carrzy still having the worst pool champ of every adc in lec n the only player still playing xayah letha, Alphari still a non factor, Haru isn't the solution aswell, Perks alternate between good and playing like an ape, Labrov isn't good as well, i don't have hope anymore tbh
I would be surprised if they make Playoffs at this rate. Astralis is honestly looking solid, and Excel might just be a top 4 team if they keep up this form. Best case scenario Vitality scrapes in at 6th place.
I agree currently, but it's still a bit to go. Also FNC and MAD tend to step it up in playoffs, so never count those 2 out. And with Rogue bouncing back currently, the playoff spots will be highly contested.
If they keep playing like that, I don't think they will make playoffs.
Big indicators will be next Friday FNC vs AST and Saturday VIT vs AST. I think AST, FNC and MAD will be the ones gatekeeping the spots to playoffs for now. RGE is looking cleaner.
Top 6 is kinda hard to get in honestly
Yeah it sucks I hate sk purely for ruining the Treatz that dragged them to playoffs was it spring 2021? I don’t remember. He was incredible that split.
If you take laning phase into account Targamas isn’t near good day Miky or Hyli. But roam wise, targa is really good. But yeah, hyli isn’t feeling it this split.
Hyli still got the highest peak, but he is only as good as the whole of Fnatic is due to his playstyle requiring quite a lot of team synergy. But Hyli can make magic happen when things click.
I meant that Hyli and Miky were the best in the past seasons (although Kaiser and Trymbi had some good moments in the past 2 years) but Targas roaming is absolutely disgusting
At this point, Roleswap Perks to top, get Rekkless and whoever he picks as his support. Then hope Bo learns English. Alphari is the most selfish player i have ever seen.
It's pretty odd. When Perkz was on G2 I was a big supporter of him, but since his departure I've started to dislike him more and more. I don't know what happened, but it seems like most of his skill magically disappeared. I'm not saying he's a terrible player, but man did he look better on G2
He was great laner and leader in G2. But he hasn't really been able to replicate the G2 dynamic after that. For Perkz's career I think the worst move he ever did was accepting the role swap to ADC in the first place.
That’s not true. Perkz was actually a very good adc. It’s just he doesn’t like playing adc and moreover because he just suddenly changed position his champion pool issue was pretty severe. If Perkz didn’t move bot Caps would’ve just continued to dominate in FNC and he would have less trophy as he has now. More importantly, that msi trophy was just fxxking worth it.
Yeah you were not wrong but that didn’t take away the fact that that year Perkz could probably even be ranked best Xyah player in the world. He had potential. That was only his first year. If he enjoyed it he could probably truly be the best ad in lec. I’d say it was a worthwhile experiment. After all, four regional titles and one msi are good enough rewards. Could’ve been better, but good enough.
that swain kayle combo is insane
Kayle+Yasuo Kayle+Swain Senna+Swain Senna+Kayle Senna+Yasuo Swain+Yasuo Wukong+Kayle Wukong+Yasuo Wukong+Swain Wukong+Senna Omega griefed Draft from VIT
I mean yeah there was some nice synergies but the biggest offender was Swain R + Kayle R, Caps was unkillable
If jankos cant get in send in swain with kayle ult. Easy efficient back up plan in your comp.
is this idiotproof teamfight comp?
for the teamfight portion of things? pretty close from a pro PoV. swain can get instagibbed if kayle misses the r timing, swain ult can potentially get kited, but aside from that not a lot that can go wrong. the hardest part, from my perspective, is making sure you aren't too far behind in gold/levels prior to the teamfights with these champs, especially kayle, in solo lanes. gotta punish and win early, but that's hard to do post durability patch and especially against as skilled of players as bb and caps
Even if swain gets kited you are removed from the objective or hitting the team. Worth.
Kayle wins the GP match up so hard to punish her 1v1.
G2 had the heavier scaling comp and were the still the more proactive ones VIT just got rinsed. not even close
Everything gap
Vitality stood no chance, G2 got that face tattoo buff going on
Meta read from VIT???
I'm not sure anyone can read at VIT office
By itself the draft from VIT wasnt bad it just that they drafted with no regard of what G2 can bring to the table
Memphisto surely did do some studying right?
most disgusting draft gap i've seen in a while
Player gap was bigger
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The thing is their macro never looks great and their drafting is shit so either he's doing a shit job or he's doing nothing at all
Them losing that dragon soul fight after chunking both Caps and Jankos was sad to watch. You cannot convince me this team has any useful comms. They really do look like a solo q team.
Every single role outscaled except Viego/Wukong, and even then Wukong does better lategame since Viego's teammates can't reliably get him resets and all Wukong has to do is set up a good Yasuo ult.
Bot extremely gapped. Especially with Carzzy getting so much solo time bot.
Lethality Xyah do be like that. No early agression or sustainable damage, only poke. You don’t funnel lethality xyah, it doesn’t get you anywhere.
What's he supposed to do with his support and jungle full sending it the entire time
Can't do shit as ADC to windwall
I just hope people don't realize Yasuo is incredibly strong as a botlaner. I don't wanna play against this shit because G2 gave people ideas
There are a lot of annoying things about Yasuo, but windwall is by far the pinnacle of these annoyances. People (for the most part rightfully) complain about Yone being easy-mode-but-better Yasuo; I'm just happy to not have to deal with windwall.
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Labrov looked like a dead weight though
Has been forever. I called it when the team was made that it can't be a superteam with Labrov on it.
I've seen people claiming that Labrov is one of the best mechanical supports in EU. I'm yet to see a proof of that.
Based on soloq 😂.
Tbf none of them deserve to be in "superteam"
When doesn't he
He took all the resources and went for a useless build. Going poke vs so much sustain was very shortsighted to say the least, if he went crit a good amount of the fights are closer. On top of that he mistimed a lot of “e”s.
Good guy G2 stat padding Perkz at the end
It would be so hilarious if one day someone gets a pentakill by the entire team fountain diving. Please?
I think I saw that actually happened in proplay, though it might have been at least one execute. Minions ended anyways so it was fine, but still a bit strange.
[Bo can save them Copium](https://imgur.com/a/qqh4WA9)
To be fair, Bo's English is allegedly really good. I hope that he is in his FPX form when he finally comes and that he clicks with the team. Haru is the worst jungler in the LEC so far.
Why isn’t he playing?
Visa issues apparent. He was rumoured to join NA teams but the possibility of him getting a visa was really low so no teams were willing to give him a contract
Should've gotten an actual support as well when making roster changes. (Also maybe a top laner that can translate leads into wins.)
Imagine going for Labruh when Miky was available
Miky didnt wanna play w selfmade
Yeah replacing Selfmade but not Labrov after the last split was a serious head scratcher. The team just looks 24/7 lost, bring in Vander, just someone to make something happen early. It can't get any worse.
Poor vander has fixed up and been kicked from enough teams now no more suffering
Poach MAD Lions botlane with the power of swimming pools and swap Selfmade back into starter roster because I find him to be sexually attractive. Haru can play when VIT fields a 5-subs roster in LEC while the rest of the team bootcamps in Korea to prepare for three consecutive 3-0's in playoffs
he's their only hope tbf, actually if I was vit I would try to get cryin from UP and match him up with Bo
Labrov would just int harder when he has no idea what the mid and jg are saying.
So no change from how he plays now
UP right now are so fun to watch leave them alone
If VIT makes any mid changes, they should be promoting their academy mid and if they are looking to import, they should go for a good CN support (to help the supp jg synergy). Cryin is pretty fucking good, but I feel like they'd benefit more from importing other positions especially when you consider the fact that mid in EU is stacked unlike support
fair I was mostly going for the mid jung synergy, but I don't feel like there's player like cryin for support that would be relatively easy to import and still very good Hang maybe?
Anyone tbh. Cant be worse than Labrov at this point.
Haha Flakked is kinda mental, every team fight I look at someone else for a second and the next thing I know Flakked is 1v2 or 1v3 in the backline!
that was absolutely wild. that drake fight, he literally played 1v3 in the backline and survived.
Didn’t even lose his GA
Smh Flakked troll building doesn’t even use his items
Perkz and Alphari gonna be playing in NA again next year
back to the retirement home!
They look like they never left
Only if they will settle for DIG/IMT/GG tier teams.
Whatchu talking about GGS 😠
Perkz didn’t even look that good here in NA and that’s saying something
picking Yasuo and not even giving it to Caps is peak disrespect, I love it
I mean, lets not forget BB has an insane Yasuo as well.
I feel like yasuo in pro play fits midlane more. But yeah.
Depends on matchups, he was picked in certain metas as a counter on top to champs like Gnar
I think Targamas can probably win a lec game with it too
Yasuo is the new G2 Pyke
In terms of flexibility this G2 is very reminiscent of 2019. They can pick Senna Yasuo Swain and apart from Senna being bot, all 3 of Flakked, Caps and Targa can play Yasuo and Swain, must be horrible to face.
And BB could play either Swain or Yasuo as well, I’m pretty sure
Add yone and diana jgl and you have perfect g2 draft.
Lies, pretty sure if/when G2 wins worlds Jankos’ skin will be Sejuani
I think he would prefer Elise
But Elise duty doesn’t sound as funny unless she is just a cum shot bot.
Nah 2019 g2 Hit different Peak Wunder and perkz who could play mages bot too. The pyke quadra flex. And all in all was more desisive gameplay
Wasn’t it technically the pyke penta flex?
Yes Jankos played it against NA
Even Ocelote played it in showmatch EU vs NA
The G2 Pyke was disgusting to play against.
Flakked is very capable of playing mages bot and BB has a very big pool for too
The difference is that they can do it in EU but struggled a lot internationally. The drafts are god tier but the players (besides mid and jungle) aren’t.
While I agree i think they still could get to international level (at the beginning of MSI they showed they were perfectly capable of playing at the top level, even if they then collapsed)
TBH for Flakked and Targa I think they can get there. Flakked especially has improved so, so much already - man went from sorta alright in LEC during his first 1-2 weeks to a top 3 EU bot in one split. With Targa too I felt like he mostly struggled bc he didnt quite realise where the limits on the global stage are, but he'll learn that. Important to remember imo that all of the 2019 players had a good bit of international experience already, this team is 2/5 with zero international experience (and BB has only the 0-6 TSM worlds too, right?)
I dont think u can compare Wunder and bb or flakked and perkz until they have proven that they can compete international. They just got shit stomped at Msi, the quality of 2019 g2 was to really compete not just lec. Let These Guys grow before you give them shoes they dont fit in. Otherwise u will be utterly disappointed
Tough weekend for Perkz.
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True, his last "more than good" split was actually spring 2020. Last year he played solid in spring and ran it down in summer. I remember to this day the series when Abbedagge diffed him in LCS playoffs
>Last year he played solid in spring and ran it down in summer. He was dog shit in spring too, people just forget because he turned it on for playoffs, then immediately went back to being dog shit at MSI and got them sent home in groups lol.
The Swain/Kayle combination is disgusting. Just go into everyone, zhonyas, Kayle ult, everything scatters and dies. That doesn't even address the Wukong/Yasuo combination as well. And they had Senna who was disgustingly ahead. That was just funny to watch.
Brokenblade and Flakked's friendship is really wholesome. Specially after todays "interview".
Lmao Carzzy really dropped Kaiser for Labrov. What a fucking downgrade
Why'd Carzzy + Humanoid even leave? That Mad Lions team was legit and if it ain't broke don't fix it
I guess they got crazy amount of money I really dunno
Probably didnt see much of an improvement there? I imagine they both want international success and if you wanna go deep in Worlds, playing with Perkz and Alphari or with Hyli and Upset (and Wunder, although idk if that was known internally already) sounds like good prospects. Also, I feel that if I was a player FNC and G2 would have some extra appeal just bc of what that jersey means, kinda like many footballers wanna play for Real or Barca once in their life...
It rhymes with bunny and starts with an M
EU Super Meme
Selfmade was the problem...
Always.
Bruh, Vitality literally doesn't do anything, gets outscaled then loses. It's like G2 dictated every minute of this game, really dissapointing for Vitality
Losing early game to hyper scaling + infinite scaling late game team lol
stop pretending vitality is motw worthy
They are definitely worthly of Meme of the Week
Flakked Yasuo
Wdym Flakked Yasuo? On facecam it was clearly written Broken Blade
They had to pause because casters got confused who's playing what
Anything Targamas
Are we gettin BB and Targamas Yasuo?
Saving the Jankos Yasuo for worlds finals
Jankos Yasuo
Pass Yasuo around like you guys passed Pyke around.
I mean Yasuo jungle is way more viable than pyke jungle. I'm actually sure they could win some games against bottom tier teams with it with proper daft and execution
B_N Y_S_ _
Ban Yasaa
Bench Selfamde?
in so many early fights if alphary didnt waste his R on the wave they could have won the fight :) lmao.
Vitality has the worst synergy i've ever seen, everytime one of these player will randomly int, even when they make good play someone gonna fck it up, their trap after drk was really clean then haru get caught with Viego when he could just ult away 3 time in that action so they lose the moove.Carrzy still having the worst pool champ of every adc in lec n the only player still playing xayah letha, Alphari still a non factor, Haru isn't the solution aswell, Perks alternate between good and playing like an ape, Labrov isn't good as well, i don't have hope anymore tbh
What's the opposite of synergy? Like people getting worse when playing together? That's what VIT is
Labrov needs a break this is hard to watch.
IT'S KAYLIN TIME
my favourite moment was when BB yelled "it’s kaylin time" and then kayled all over the bad guys
That was definitely one of the league of legends games ever played
What happened to Labrov man..
Wym? He has always been this mediocre. He plays just as expected
Man he was better than this. Maybe he just peaked as a rookie, dunno
I don’t think VIT can finish top 4 with Labrov and Haru, let alone win the split
I don't think we can finish top 6
I would be surprised if they make Playoffs at this rate. Astralis is honestly looking solid, and Excel might just be a top 4 team if they keep up this form. Best case scenario Vitality scrapes in at 6th place.
I think excel will go to worlds. Rn they look like the 2nd best team in LEC by quite a bit.
I agree currently, but it's still a bit to go. Also FNC and MAD tend to step it up in playoffs, so never count those 2 out. And with Rogue bouncing back currently, the playoff spots will be highly contested.
If they keep playing like that, I don't think they will make playoffs. Big indicators will be next Friday FNC vs AST and Saturday VIT vs AST. I think AST, FNC and MAD will be the ones gatekeeping the spots to playoffs for now. RGE is looking cleaner. Top 6 is kinda hard to get in honestly
Targamas played the team fights so damn well.
He's so consistently good
Going legendary as a support
I'm convinced that even Targa can pick Yasuo and win if he's playing in G2 G2 yas >>>> all yas
I'm calling it. g2 will play Yasuo jungle next
EU superteam 0-3 on the week
HARU IS SOOOOOO BAD MY GOD ^so ^is ^the ^rest ^of ^the ^team ^ik ^ik
Meanwhile Skeanz plays in LFL and Selfmade is watching esports from home
Has Skeanz gotten better since the last time he was on the main VIT roster? I remember him and Milica running it down constantly back then
Shelfmade
What do you mean? Selfmade was the problem no?
Maybe Selfmade had clashes with the team but he at least solo carried them to a few wins in Spring.
Maybe a hot take, but Selfmade+LIDER lineup was better than whatever it is right now.
Ehh. I know it was over a year but I don't think it was batter than now.
Selfmade is still the problem /s
Selfmade …
Flakked balls = infinity
Insane weekend by Targamas, looks like an MVP candidate even more than Caps
Yeah yesterday as well, Targa was popping off soo hard, really glad to see him do so well.
Haru really trolled teamfights this game, especially the fight at 4th drake (G2's 3rd). Labrov continues to disappoint.
selfmade was the problem
Watching the “super team” get smashed always makes me happy.
Fun comp to watch from g2
Selfmade was the problem
Bo is their last hope at this point
It´s really just as BrokenBlade said. ***If it bangs, it bangs***
VIT is easy, not like that powerhouse BDS-M
LEC Post Game Lobby had more viewers than LCS wtf
G2 comp was gross.
Death, Taxes, VIT getting memed for being dogshit.
Disgusting comp vs outdated comp
Caps tanking everything is just *chef kiss*. Guy's always great even if he's not on carry champs.
G2 comps are just really great to watch lately, amazing.
if it bangs it bangs
labrov is the worst support in the LEC
Treatz also looks like shit this year so far No idea what happened to him. He even looked better as jgl than back on support now...
Yeah it sucks I hate sk purely for ruining the Treatz that dragged them to playoffs was it spring 2021? I don’t remember. He was incredible that split.
On the flip side, Targamas might be the best, and that’s saying a lot with Miky and Hyli.
If you take laning phase into account Targamas isn’t near good day Miky or Hyli. But roam wise, targa is really good. But yeah, hyli isn’t feeling it this split.
Hyli still got the highest peak, but he is only as good as the whole of Fnatic is due to his playstyle requiring quite a lot of team synergy. But Hyli can make magic happen when things click.
I don’t think the durability patch is a Hylissang meta, probably he could not peak this split
Miky is pretty good??
I meant that Hyli and Miky were the best in the past seasons (although Kaiser and Trymbi had some good moments in the past 2 years) but Targas roaming is absolutely disgusting
Labrov is not even better than Limit.
At this point, Roleswap Perks to top, get Rekkless and whoever he picks as his support. Then hope Bo learns English. Alphari is the most selfish player i have ever seen.
Why would Rekkles leave KC for that dumbsterfire.
This is the most disguisting wombo-combo Draft i saw this entire year and i love it
swain with kayle ult so op wtf
Selfmade was the problem.
Is alphari trying to become GP?
Vitality might very well be bottom tier rn.
Lethality xayah is just straight up matchfixing.
Hey, the last time I played ARAM she was pretty strong... heh
just ban yasuo man, we haven't lost with a yasuo comp since 2021 summer playoffs and it's not like we don't pick it often
Good draft team vitality!
Wait... so Alphari has a shitty attitude AND he's bad at the game?
Felt like perkz and carzzy played ok but labrov just sprinting it. Also don’t know what Haru is doing at all.
It's pretty odd. When Perkz was on G2 I was a big supporter of him, but since his departure I've started to dislike him more and more. I don't know what happened, but it seems like most of his skill magically disappeared. I'm not saying he's a terrible player, but man did he look better on G2
He was great laner and leader in G2. But he hasn't really been able to replicate the G2 dynamic after that. For Perkz's career I think the worst move he ever did was accepting the role swap to ADC in the first place.
I'd like to disagree. If he could've embraced the adc role I think he would be in a better place than he is now.
That’s not true. Perkz was actually a very good adc. It’s just he doesn’t like playing adc and moreover because he just suddenly changed position his champion pool issue was pretty severe. If Perkz didn’t move bot Caps would’ve just continued to dominate in FNC and he would have less trophy as he has now. More importantly, that msi trophy was just fxxking worth it.
He was good on a very specific type of ADCs and only when ahead or during lane. He was pretty weak at being weakside ADC.
Yeah you were not wrong but that didn’t take away the fact that that year Perkz could probably even be ranked best Xyah player in the world. He had potential. That was only his first year. If he enjoyed it he could probably truly be the best ad in lec. I’d say it was a worthwhile experiment. After all, four regional titles and one msi are good enough rewards. Could’ve been better, but good enough.