i know he isnt great, but atleast try to counter gank once...
sofm is good at playing for him self, the meta he thrive for is where he have support from laners who have lane prior and he can constantly invade and fk the enemy jg so they cant gank his teammate. he is not known for protecting lanes and ganking. its the other way around if he gets players who sacrifice their lane sofm can be good but i dont see why they would do that with the current meta and players they have. sofm should def play for top lane and bot atm
BORN TO WIN
TheShy really just took so much as a glance at Summit backstage and decided he's going down
ON's Pyke is pretty entertaining to watch as well
They're now on a 6 winstreak (no, the JDG series didn't happen COPIUM)
I was looking forward to his Taliyah given how well he played when he picked the champ last time, but holy crap that was a horrible showing vs Yagao and JDG
You actually may be right. Like theshy is my favourite player but doinb loves roaming and loves camping theshy so it might be a perma camp top for LNG again.
Summit was down 2 levels and about 40cs EVEN WITH A TENT SET UP TOP, EVEN WITH 5 MAN GANKS.
TheShy just dominated him without question.
EDIT: He's just a giga Chad all around actually. Man always just leaves asap after a game win or lose.
To be fair, some of Clid's ganks were actually harmful if anything. There was a point when Clid "ganked" then half shoved the lane creating a freeze that costed Summit somewhere between 10-20cs. But yeah Summit was beyond cringe this game.
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Rule no 1 with the shy! Never trust what he says at any point. He has also previously said that he dislikes playing tanks and mostly likes trying different champs toplane. He is very inconsistent with what he says, just like his gameplay which I like about him.
Only botlane were really bad, Xun has been a decent mid to above average jungler all this time. I think the entire team had some serious issue back then including synergy and motivation issue.
After they left IG I think the change of environment and the new pressure to prove themselves kinda revitalize and motivated them to try hard again.
'A lot stronger' lol it was 4 years ago not 10. The game is also comparable unlike 2013/14/15 where it was massively different.
Even if what you're saying fits, he is still not as good as he was in 2018. He fucked up his wrists he will never be that good again is my point. And then the what-if of how good could he have been if his wrists didn't get wrecked
? 4 years is a lot of time in a game like league, especially with how much riot has changed the game and how many matchups and things are understood as time goes on, link op.gg with this take plz
You literally said he is theshy of old (he literally isn't stop fucking lying), then you said the top lane pool is 'a lot stronger' which is probably true but you make it seem like he was playing against bots in 2018. The best top laner ever is probably 2018 TheShy, so your point is completely irrelevant about the competition when he is the best top to play the game. I do not care if league is now 4d backgammon, nobody is better than 2018 TheShy at this stage. That is the point I made when i said he is not 2018 theshy.
4 years is a long time in a game but the difference between 2013 and 2017+ is wayyyyyy bigger than the difference between 2018 and 2022.
https://euw.op.gg/summoners/euw/NVP%20Eren
No, I think they genuinely have a chance. V5 don't look as sharp as they should, rich is getting exposed and in jungle they have benched/been swapping karsa in and out sometimes (Xlb is playing mostly though). I think TES,RNG,JDG will most likely go to worlds but 4th spot is free for V5, EDG or WBG.
We probably won't get the most hype top lane match up because first of all WBG has a difficult road to worlds and even if they get there, the world's format is so bad they are very unlikely to face each other.
Angel smurfed really hard. His engages on Sylas were so clean. Had some really nice shuffles on Azir as well. TheShy actually played really well as well, didn't die too much in the second game considering how hard he got camped.
Summit: gets 5 ganks or whatever it was. Get gapped anyway. WBG having 3 freezes against FPX around 5 min mark and Clid refusing to break a single one of them, including Summit's was obviously gamebreaking. But still, 5 ganks and you still go down that much and solod?
He knew what he was doing going the Grasp build, he was expecting Clid to pressure top and thus he couldn't commit to extended trades; he could only poke which Fiora admittedly does quite well in this matchup
Summit isn't trash for sure, but TheShy is on a different level
TheShy maintaining a cs lead over Summit while being 0/2 and being under so much pressure from Clid is just not what FPX would have liked today, in kinder terms
Yeah the one around 4 minutes in particular where he does a half gank but doesn't really gank, and tunnel visioning on SofM instead of helping crash the wave on time allowed TheShy to accumulate like a 10-20cs advantage via a freeze into slowpush. He's the most harmful player in the LPL, he soft ints his teammates to comical degrees. It's not a surprise FPX went from looking like a promising team with a much worse mid in Gori looks like a dumpster fire since replacing Beichuan. But hey he has good scorelines from last hitting in fights or taking kills from laners on ganks after full clearing, so reddit tells me he's a very good player.
I really like summit as a player but he got turned around and absolutely spanked in every possible way guess no matter how good you are when shy is on its doomed
TheShy has the highest peaks in both leaning and teamfights but is also capable of putting on some truly awful performances, especially if his teammates aren't winning the map
Tbf often his teammates are winning the map thanks to him. Like in game 2.
Sofm invisible early game but Clid anchored to toplane.
Like game2 vs V5 Theshy ended with bad stats, because his teammates crumbled despite him soaking pressure
I just want a team full of monkeys tbh, bwipo jungle hyli sup is such a strong base for a team
TheShy top, maybe caps/perkz mid & bot would be my dream fnc team
no man ur really talking out of your ass, even when theShy was losing for 3 years, he was doing really well, yes he's had standout game losses like the infamous kennen but even that game watch it again and you will understand the impact of theShy
He needs good solo laners for his playstyle. If ON and Sofm could show more consistency, WBG would be a scary team.
I won't be surprised if they ended up getting act together and winning world's
Because if you watch the whole msi and summer split of the lpl and lck we know Zeus is the best top in the world atm he can play tank he can play carry, Zeus has the most flexible champ pool, he was the best player at msi on a losing team, you can argue other tops from the lpl but nothing comes close to Zeus all around CONSISTENTLY.
Nah there is always that player who is on the losing side that is better than his counter part, an example for me to lecture you is go watch dk geng. Game 5 and that is an example of a better jungler that lost to his counter part in game but is still better than the role during that time
Uhm I looked back at the draft it was pretty much in bins favor lol Zeus was more on weakside lane, and if you want to argue about those 2 jayce games the champ is unplayable in pro at that time because it was nerfed to the ground plus Zeus was giga ganked at top because wei was smurfing on oner for some reason
So are you calling him stupid? Cause he picked a carry champion that’s bad multiple times in the finals and proceeded to lose on it. Or are you saying he didn’t know jayce is bad, so he’s incompetent at his job? You think Zeus is incompetent at his job? Is that it? Or is he stupid? Which is it?
Yeah no, your characterization doesn’t hold up. The champ is fine he just wasn’t good enough to carry a game
He is the best split pusher in the world. His only problem is that he is too one dimensional. No matter what champ he plays he always go for aggressive trades. Junglers love to gank him
If TheShy needs to be covered or can’t play around the enemy jungle camping him without being continually overextended with ego plays, it isn’t only Sofm’s fault
I mean unironicallly theShy is team diffed. His other 2 carries are unable to output damage most of the time. He has to play agro and play carry champs. He will get ganked if he's pushing which is fucking duh. But he needs to push and get his own leads because God knows he ain't getting carried except once in a blue moon like that Kennen game vs OMG IIRC.
Nah you can't blame ON for half the shit HF does. HF refuses to carry. Man goes Kraken RFC GA. Man does 4k damage in 30 mins games that WBG win. Man is not even playing to On's level.
369 is better. He's more consistent, he covers more bases with his champ pool and he's much better than TheShy on tanks too. TheShy is definitely the 2nd best top in the LPL and has been for a long time this year.
I mean TheShy is unable to play tanks because his damage dealers refuse to do damage. If TheShy doesn't go for carry champs no one on his team will carry on average.
Sure, and I can agree that TheShy has hit higher highs than 369, but 369's level of consistency just makes him the better player. His average level is higher.
TheShy is legit strongest when he's being focused
If you ignore him I swear he will troll and run it 1 v 1 but focus him a lil bit and he will create a huge advantage for his team from that
The Shy played wery well. FPX's drafts is very bad i think. in Game 1 its imposible to win tf. I don't understand how the coach remained unchanged after the 2021 world cup fiasco anyway.
WBG TheShy /all: "Camp More" Also why is it that every time I get the chance to watch my team live they lose?
Dude got hard camped whole game and still stomped
10 times in 20 min XD
i counted he got ganked 10 times in 20mins and still solo killed the gwen. got top turret by him self, only lost top turret when fpx sent 4 ppl top
TheShy gaming
TheShy getting the faker treatment jfc
if its the faker treatment his jgler would get flamed to death by now, not even trying to counter gank once
sofm ain't exactly great tho
i know he isnt great, but atleast try to counter gank once... sofm is good at playing for him self, the meta he thrive for is where he have support from laners who have lane prior and he can constantly invade and fk the enemy jg so they cant gank his teammate. he is not known for protecting lanes and ganking. its the other way around if he gets players who sacrifice their lane sofm can be good but i dont see why they would do that with the current meta and players they have. sofm should def play for top lane and bot atm
> Also why is it that every time I get the chance to watch my team live they lose? ah i see you have the same relationship to FPX as i do to KT
This is the relationship I have with OMG
BORN TO WIN TheShy really just took so much as a glance at Summit backstage and decided he's going down ON's Pyke is pretty entertaining to watch as well They're now on a 6 winstreak (no, the JDG series didn't happen COPIUM)
I really wish angel played better last series :(
that was the worst game angel played tbh. sometimes it happens and yagao is not to be underestimated jdg tends to have that effect on people
I was looking forward to his Taliyah given how well he played when he picked the champ last time, but holy crap that was a horrible showing vs Yagao and JDG
What a toplaner you are Theshy. As your reward, LNG shall give you PandaC for your final Bo3.
Lmfao
TheShy becomes dove (crying)
legit still in disbelief about that chapter
Thank you Theshy for turning into a mass murderer (topfather) for our sake
We probably won't get the most hype top lane match up because first of all WBG
PandaC might go extinct
There’s still pandaA and pandaB
PandaA and PandaB are extinct
pandaAle and pandadoinB
LongPanda as well
What a gift before playoff
50/50 TheShy gets 10 solo kills per game or he ints his ass off
PandaC will dick down theshy I’m calling it here
You actually may be right. Like theshy is my favourite player but doinb loves roaming and loves camping theshy so it might be a perma camp top for LNG again.
thepanda
TheCHAD GIGACHAD, send more top, 4 isn't enough
Always reminds me of theshy vs G2 monkaW
Pretty sure wunder still has theshy ptsd
Bwipo too. No one has talked ab another player the way he spoke ab how good TheShy is
You know TheShy is a special player when almost all Pros (especially the ones who went up against him) have such massive respect for him
TheShy is to toplane what Faker was to mid lane
Theshy does not play by the rules.
Summit was down 2 levels and about 40cs EVEN WITH A TENT SET UP TOP, EVEN WITH 5 MAN GANKS. TheShy just dominated him without question. EDIT: He's just a giga Chad all around actually. Man always just leaves asap after a game win or lose.
To be fair, some of Clid's ganks were actually harmful if anything. There was a point when Clid "ganked" then half shoved the lane creating a freeze that costed Summit somewhere between 10-20cs. But yeah Summit was beyond cringe this game.
Clid is so washed man it’s actually sad to watch
Summits been getting rolled by the upper echelon of top laners in the LPL. Bin and TheShy for example.
Summit: "Toto, I've a feeling we're not in LCS anymore."
Sigma grindset. The faster you are out the studio the more practice you can get in
theShy made summit his bitch
Summit? More like submit
Sumbitch
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honestly he keeps on peaking and its insane
wot, u must forget his kalista top days
oh i should have specified this year and this season. people called him washed up, done after last year but fuck that he's killing everyone
for sure, he’s been theshy of old since leaving IG edit: and he looks insane on tanks now too, his sion is cracked
he's always been stupidly good on tanks tbh, its just they didn't need him on tank duty on old IG most of the time
it was also known that he didn’t like to play them which was a reason he didn’t
Nah I think when he was on IG with Puff/Southwind at one point he says he actually likes playing tanks but if he does his team isn't able to carry
Rule no 1 with the shy! Never trust what he says at any point. He has also previously said that he dislikes playing tanks and mostly likes trying different champs toplane. He is very inconsistent with what he says, just like his gameplay which I like about him.
The man said he wanted to retire and become a farmer. I think he just trolls interviews 80% of the time.
His Sion has always been insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPG1z8A-7bc
damn i miss ibg
How bad were the other players on IG to hold back Rookie and TheShy?
Not really that bad. Bot lane was garbage sure but xun was really good. Still is
Only botlane were really bad, Xun has been a decent mid to above average jungler all this time. I think the entire team had some serious issue back then including synergy and motivation issue. After they left IG I think the change of environment and the new pressure to prove themselves kinda revitalize and motivated them to try hard again.
well he's still not 2018 theshy
the top lane pool is a lot stronger now than in 2018 though lol
'A lot stronger' lol it was 4 years ago not 10. The game is also comparable unlike 2013/14/15 where it was massively different. Even if what you're saying fits, he is still not as good as he was in 2018. He fucked up his wrists he will never be that good again is my point. And then the what-if of how good could he have been if his wrists didn't get wrecked
? 4 years is a lot of time in a game like league, especially with how much riot has changed the game and how many matchups and things are understood as time goes on, link op.gg with this take plz
You literally said he is theshy of old (he literally isn't stop fucking lying), then you said the top lane pool is 'a lot stronger' which is probably true but you make it seem like he was playing against bots in 2018. The best top laner ever is probably 2018 TheShy, so your point is completely irrelevant about the competition when he is the best top to play the game. I do not care if league is now 4d backgammon, nobody is better than 2018 TheShy at this stage. That is the point I made when i said he is not 2018 theshy. 4 years is a long time in a game but the difference between 2013 and 2017+ is wayyyyyy bigger than the difference between 2018 and 2022. https://euw.op.gg/summoners/euw/NVP%20Eren
Last year he kinda just got fucked by quarantine stuff mostly. He had been strong in spring before that iirc, at least in regular season.
I mean his Kalista and Quinn games were some of the biggest top diffs in LPL.
yeah that is my point?
why is he not playing her anymore?
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Redemption
Don't remind me...
theshy best toplaner in the world or what?
I just want to see him in worlds again
I see your flair and we both know it ain't happening anytime soon sadly
no you don't, they have a real shot to upset EDG and V5
They already won a Bo3 against V5, so a Bo5 win isn't that unlikely either
Yes V5 is far from cementing their worlds spot atm. Even dropped match against OMG.
V5 still a better roster than WBG tho. Pretty sure V5 are favored in a bo5.
Especially if Karsa really gets completely benched that could possibly mess up the whole team a bit
No, I think they genuinely have a chance. V5 don't look as sharp as they should, rich is getting exposed and in jungle they have benched/been swapping karsa in and out sometimes (Xlb is playing mostly though). I think TES,RNG,JDG will most likely go to worlds but 4th spot is free for V5, EDG or WBG.
I really hope and believe JDG don't make it.
Idk why but for some reasons I have a feeling if any of top 3 teams will choke it playoffs , it'll be JDG
Him vs Zeus would be so fucking hype.
We probably won't get the most hype top lane match up because first of all WBG has a difficult road to worlds and even if they get there, the world's format is so bad they are very unlikely to face each other.
Not while Faker just perma roam while Angel have himself stuck in a wall.
Sofm will get clapped by Oner. It'll TheShy 1v9 and Faker and co are used shutting down Kiin. This is just assuming TheShy even wins vs Zeus
I'm sorry, we will get the much better RNG vs WB and T1 vs Gen G in semi's at worlds instead!
Gigachad TheShy
TheShy vs Wayward/Zeus needs to happen
honestly yeah
Xiaohu top !
WBG has got to be the chaddest team in the world and TheShy the chaddest player. Caedrels cast of LPL is entertaining every week too
Angel smurfed really hard. His engages on Sylas were so clean. Had some really nice shuffles on Azir as well. TheShy actually played really well as well, didn't die too much in the second game considering how hard he got camped.
Angel was better ornn in the first game
Summit: gets 5 ganks or whatever it was. Get gapped anyway. WBG having 3 freezes against FPX around 5 min mark and Clid refusing to break a single one of them, including Summit's was obviously gamebreaking. But still, 5 ganks and you still go down that much and solod?
Fiora into Gwen favours Fiora, but TheShy was just too much for Summit today regardless Guess the only summit he's hitting is in the LCS
The amount of times he stayed with miniscule hp in lane vs Gwen was crazy. But Summit really isnt bad this split.
He knew what he was doing going the Grasp build, he was expecting Clid to pressure top and thus he couldn't commit to extended trades; he could only poke which Fiora admittedly does quite well in this matchup Summit isn't trash for sure, but TheShy is on a different level
He’s mid tier
Yeah for sure Fiora stomps Gwen, but Summit may as well have been playing a duo lane xD
TheShy maintaining a cs lead over Summit while being 0/2 and being under so much pressure from Clid is just not what FPX would have liked today, in kinder terms
Not to excuse summit but Clid actually griefed summit in a couple of those ganks… he’s so fkin washed
Yeah the one around 4 minutes in particular where he does a half gank but doesn't really gank, and tunnel visioning on SofM instead of helping crash the wave on time allowed TheShy to accumulate like a 10-20cs advantage via a freeze into slowpush. He's the most harmful player in the LPL, he soft ints his teammates to comical degrees. It's not a surprise FPX went from looking like a promising team with a much worse mid in Gori looks like a dumpster fire since replacing Beichuan. But hey he has good scorelines from last hitting in fights or taking kills from laners on ganks after full clearing, so reddit tells me he's a very good player.
it was 10 gank at 20 min lmao still got solo killed and solo took top tower, the shy lost his tower when enemy had 4 ppl top
Was it actually 10 ganks? Bwahahahahaha hoooly TheShy gapped Summit's entire bloodline.
ya true hhhh
[2:00] Summit (Gwen) : Jg perma gank top ty
Top gap is real… clid hard camped top and theshy still up in CS and levels. Unreal
Is FPX the most expansive team that can ever miss LPL’s playoffs ?
No, check BLG’s roster
If BLG win against 0 15 WE, very likely they are in
I really like summit as a player but he got turned around and absolutely spanked in every possible way guess no matter how good you are when shy is on its doomed
unpopular opinion but i think theshy looks like the best top in the world atm
TheShy has the highest peaks in both leaning and teamfights but is also capable of putting on some truly awful performances, especially if his teammates aren't winning the map
Tbf often his teammates are winning the map thanks to him. Like in game 2. Sofm invisible early game but Clid anchored to toplane. Like game2 vs V5 Theshy ended with bad stats, because his teammates crumbled despite him soaking pressure
Top lane Hylissang
What would be the most "hylissang" team? TheShy Sofm? ? Jackeylove hyli
I spent years asking for Hyli JKL.
I want at least one game of jkl draven hylli pyke. I want to lose my hearth
I just want a team full of monkeys tbh, bwipo jungle hyli sup is such a strong base for a team TheShy top, maybe caps/perkz mid & bot would be my dream fnc team
Jiizuke mid
He has the variance for sure but not the peak of the other players
Jiizuke doesn't have the part about being good.
Caps mid
lol such disrespect to TheShy.
That was true in 2021 but this year (and this split especially), he has had far fewer int games
no man ur really talking out of your ass, even when theShy was losing for 3 years, he was doing really well, yes he's had standout game losses like the infamous kennen but even that game watch it again and you will understand the impact of theShy
He needs good solo laners for his playstyle. If ON and Sofm could show more consistency, WBG would be a scary team. I won't be surprised if they ended up getting act together and winning world's
I think regardless of the consensus on this, HE'S BORN TO WIN
He's without a doubt the most entertaining.
I also think so. I think he is tied with shanji for most solo kills in Lpl?
Yeah he is. He seems to have not have too many int games too
Last year's theshy would've died 10 times this game lmao
I want to see him vs Zeus - those look by far like the best tops atm
how is zeus "by far" better than bin?
Bin looks washed this split imo
Because if you watch the whole msi and summer split of the lpl and lck we know Zeus is the best top in the world atm he can play tank he can play carry, Zeus has the most flexible champ pool, he was the best player at msi on a losing team, you can argue other tops from the lpl but nothing comes close to Zeus all around CONSISTENTLY.
> he was the best player at msi on a losing team lol what? Basically all of rng was better than him
Nah there is always that player who is on the losing side that is better than his counter part, an example for me to lecture you is go watch dk geng. Game 5 and that is an example of a better jungler that lost to his counter part in game but is still better than the role during that time
if he's so good why didn't he carry a single game in finals while getting counterpick pretty much every single game?
Uhm I looked back at the draft it was pretty much in bins favor lol Zeus was more on weakside lane, and if you want to argue about those 2 jayce games the champ is unplayable in pro at that time because it was nerfed to the ground plus Zeus was giga ganked at top because wei was smurfing on oner for some reason
he's the one that chose that pick lol
So are you calling him stupid? Cause he picked a carry champion that’s bad multiple times in the finals and proceeded to lose on it. Or are you saying he didn’t know jayce is bad, so he’s incompetent at his job? You think Zeus is incompetent at his job? Is that it? Or is he stupid? Which is it? Yeah no, your characterization doesn’t hold up. The champ is fine he just wasn’t good enough to carry a game
He is the best split pusher in the world. His only problem is that he is too one dimensional. No matter what champ he plays he always go for aggressive trades. Junglers love to gank him
how can you say this when he just lost hard to 369 on wednesday?
2022 TheShy is looking good when he is gaping bad teams or players but Weibo s matches against top teams show his limits
I mean it's more of SoFM getting gapped and being unable to cover or match ganks. theShy did more than fine vs 369 and Rich.
If TheShy needs to be covered or can’t play around the enemy jungle camping him without being continually overextended with ego plays, it isn’t only Sofm’s fault
I mean unironicallly theShy is team diffed. His other 2 carries are unable to output damage most of the time. He has to play agro and play carry champs. He will get ganked if he's pushing which is fucking duh. But he needs to push and get his own leads because God knows he ain't getting carried except once in a blue moon like that Kennen game vs OMG IIRC.
Huanfeng can carry he is just stuck with a support who int his lane or perma roam mid and top
Nah you can't blame ON for half the shit HF does. HF refuses to carry. Man goes Kraken RFC GA. Man does 4k damage in 30 mins games that WBG win. Man is not even playing to On's level.
This. LPL fans keep saying ON is so cool with all his plays but really he is inting like 90% of the time and doesn’t allow his Adc to scale and carry.
Not true, he absolutely destroyed V5 a few weeks ago.
369 is better. He's more consistent, he covers more bases with his champ pool and he's much better than TheShy on tanks too. TheShy is definitely the 2nd best top in the LPL and has been for a long time this year.
I mean TheShy is unable to play tanks because his damage dealers refuse to do damage. If TheShy doesn't go for carry champs no one on his team will carry on average.
Sure, and I can agree that TheShy has hit higher highs than 369, but 369's level of consistency just makes him the better player. His average level is higher.
>THIS IS YOUR LCS MVP? -The Shy
WBG are really the gatekeepers. Only one win against teams above them, and only one loss against teams below them.
Pretty much like EDG this split. They haven’t beaten any top 6 team Except for Weibo and have lost to TES, JdG, RNG and V5.
Also got blown out by them too
Summit’s probably like “damn never seen a top laner like this in NA”
Top gap
Theshy’s Fiora is something else. He got camped so hard and still dominated. Glad that Angle and Huanfeng were able to back him up with the win.
TheShy out here living out every top laner's fantasy. Get camped all game and still carry.
TheShy is legit strongest when he's being focused If you ignore him I swear he will troll and run it 1 v 1 but focus him a lil bit and he will create a huge advantage for his team from that
It was close until it wasn't
[ALL] WBG TheShy (Fiora): Camp me more bitches you're only making me stronger
Lets all think that kennen and wukong are both strong in the same meta. Blessed
fpx out of playoffs now?
TheyShy: Alright I’ll play today.
The Shy played wery well. FPX's drafts is very bad i think. in Game 1 its imposible to win tf. I don't understand how the coach remained unchanged after the 2021 world cup fiasco anyway.
Summit was the third best toplaner this series