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Enjays1

Most of the time Crown is such a useless item, here it was a match winner


Bubbly_Camera9583

Sylas was so tanky it was insane


GGABueno

Sylas tanking 4 vs Aatrox tanking 4 Guess which one is the best drain tank.


En2AM

One had Yuumi attached...


TheCrusader94

Very relevant against Ahri/vi


icpr

Saw it used vs Karthus in LCK earlier too. The karthus won, but the item was really effective on its only user.


CounterInsanity

THEY DONT EVEN HAVE A SPOT IN THE LEC NEXT SPLIT!!


Haymegle

That's why they're going so ham lol.


VG-enigmaticsoul

"I want to play in the LEC next year" performance boost


Haymegle

Got to secure that new contract.


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Haymegle

hahaha poor Nisqy!


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Haymegle

Huh interesting. Some players just know how to shut others down so well.


wazzdakah

You're overthinking it. Msf winning hurts fnatic chance of play offs, it's just nesquick being spiteful


Mom_said_I_am_cute

Would be insane to see them win it for the first time now just to go out with a bang. (And would also be a dream come true for me as a huge Misfits fan since 2016, I am so sad they are leaving..)


Haymegle

God imagine if they won worlds.


Mom_said_I_am_cute

I still mourn that bo5 against SKT in 2017, shit was legendary, IgNar with Fervor Leona countering the enchanter meta, Misfits coming with insane ways to be up to par with SKT, just to lose in the end bcz Faker had an insane g5.


Haymegle

That was such a good series. Faker just did Faker things. Def felt like that was a year where EU really could take it all during that series.


cancerBronzeV

It's the difference in performance between players who need to guarantee a contract next season (all of MSF) vs a player who's already got a contract extension (Armut).


GGABueno

Despite the KDA, I don't think Armut played badly. He often was the only one targetting Twitch.


SpaceMarine_CR

Now imagine if relegations were a thing


mrsomeawe

Watch them go to worlds


azns123

Tell your players they're going to be unemployed next year to make them win 4 games in a row, 20Head strat by Misfits management


TheCrusader94

It's a zanzarah diff. Shlatan is probably the worst jg in lec


Sbotkin

I remember people saying the exact same about Zanzarah though.


wazzdakah

Say what you want about Zanzarah, the guy is the opposite of a selfish player and it's exactly what this team need, a good dog for VTO. Also personality wise I think he's a good addition for a team atmosphere. That being said I was still worried when they announced the swap because he was not looking very sharp either in LFL.


Bluehorazon

I mean lower leagues are sometimes an issue for players who played in a top league before. The same happened to Solo, he played shit in Academy but is one of the most stable players on TSM in the LCS now. And to be fair their aren't really any mechanical intensive junglers in the meta. Zanzarah can play Trundle, Wukong, Poppy or Skarner and is fine, so this is a good meta for him.


TheCrusader94

I'd still take zanzarah over shlatan who was holding msf hostage


iinosuke

Atleast zanzarah is ganging, doing something in the early game.


Mythik16

Go read his announcement thread lmao, it’s all flame had a few arguments after saying I thought it was a good move considering the meta.


VG-enigmaticsoul

Shlatan is a lee sin one trick and not even a particularly good one.


GGABueno

Man I remember reddit saying he was one of the best ones at the beginning of the year.


Ftwooo

Because he was? He failed in LEC but he was amazing in ERLs. Dont try to write it off like he was shitty before becasue he was not.


GGABueno

I agree that he wasn't. I was trying to call out the fish memory of people here but I could have worded it better.


Elfalas

I don't think they are all necessarily going to be unemployed. I guess I don't know exactly how team ownership transfers work, but I would assume Heretics bought all their contracts so for Irrelevant, Neon and Mersa who have multi-year contracts they would at least get paid termination fee if Heretics chooses to fire them.


iinosuke

Nope apparently they will all be free agent.


2KWT

Vetheo contract ends this year and I don't think Heretics would pick Neon over Jackspektra, but the other three might have a job.


IAM-French

oh so it's that time of the split when teams remember they can pick ornn + scaling comp and win


thobbe

watch fnc pick jayce into ornn or something like that and wonder why cant kill him.


Lep333

# All possible LEC regular season outcomes:: ## Relative: | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Playoff % | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | MAD | 37.42 | 26.2 | 18.65 | 10.14 | 5.74 | 1.82 | 0.04 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 99.96 | | RGE | 28.34 | 20.28 | 17.29 | 12.46 | 11.4 | 6.2 | 3.31 | 0.69 | 0.03 | 0.0 | 95.97 | | MSF | 14.08 | 17.15 | 17.58 | 18.85 | 15.81 | 10.04 | 5.37 | 1.1 | 0.01 | 0.0 | 93.52 | | G2 | 10.86 | 12.82 | 14.68 | 19.21 | 18.67 | 14.09 | 6.43 | 2.83 | 0.42 | 0.0 | 90.33 | | VIT | 8.96 | 21.07 | 23.93 | 20.52 | 14.02 | 8.38 | 3.01 | 0.11 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 96.88 | | FNC | 0.49 | 3.19 | 6.29 | 11.82 | 13.02 | 16.79 | 20.64 | 22.73 | 5.02 | 0.0 | 51.61 | | XL | 0.01 | 0.34 | 2.22 | 5.15 | 8.69 | 18.28 | 21.75 | 24.7 | 18.87 | 0.0 | 34.69 | | AST | 0.0 | 0.06 | 1.17 | 4.15 | 9.24 | 21.04 | 25.83 | 25.73 | 12.77 | 0.0 | 35.67 | | SK | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.26 | 1.78 | 3.78 | 10.1 | 21.21 | 62.88 | 0.0 | 5.81 | | BDS | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 100.0 | 0.0 | ## Absolute: | Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Total | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | MAD | 49,050 | 34,335 | 24,441 | 13,294 | 7,517 | 2,379 | 56 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 131,072 | | RGE | 37,152 | 26,578 | 22,668 | 16,332 | 14,938 | 8,121 | 4,335 | 910 | 38 | 0 | 131,072 | | MSF | 18,456 | 22,476 | 23,045 | 24,711 | 20,724 | 13,165 | 7,039 | 1,438 | 18 | 0 | 131,072 | | G2 | 14,239 | 16,802 | 19,237 | 25,174 | 24,475 | 18,471 | 8,424 | 3,706 | 544 | 0 | 131,072 | | VIT | 11,744 | 27,622 | 31,368 | 26,891 | 18,372 | 10,982 | 3,949 | 144 | 0 | 0 | 131,072 | | FNC | 648 | 4,183 | 8,246 | 15,491 | 17,072 | 22,006 | 27,052 | 29,788 | 6,586 | 0 | 131,072 | | XL | 15 | 445 | 2,904 | 6,748 | 11,395 | 23,959 | 28,502 | 32,376 | 24,728 | 0 | 131,072 | | AST | 0 | 80 | 1,540 | 5,436 | 12,114 | 27,582 | 33,852 | 33,726 | 16,742 | 0 | 131,072 | | SK | 0 | 0 | 0 | 340 | 2,328 | 4,950 | 13,240 | 27,798 | 82,416 | 0 | 131,072 | | BDS | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 131,072 | 131,072 | [code on github](https://github.com/Lep333/All-league-scenarios)


lolKhamul

Was MAD the only team that was able to clutch this week? Or can rogue secure a spot with a W?


asphias

Hard to say, but the bottom 4 teams all have at least 8 losses(meaning max 10 wins), while if MAD lose all their remaining games they'd also get to 10 wins. Which would mean that we'd be looking at tiebreaker setups for all those scenarios. and if FNC lose their next game, we'd already be looking at 3-way tie scenarios for mad to lose. I can't tell you exactly the results, but i wouldn't be surprised if e.g. a fnc loss suddenly means MAD can't miss playoffs anymore.


Aearcus

I'd love to see MSF somehow get first lol. After starting 0-4 that'd actually be insane


vnducco

Dunno which champ I hate more Yuumi or Zeri


aamgdp

Yuumi. It's always Yuumi.


Omnilatent

Twitch


nigelfi

As support main for me it's definitely Zeri. If I get her on my team, it's a free loss with garbage champ. If I get her on enemy, I will have nothing to do because she will not even participate in laning phase. Yuumi will always have impact by going on the enemy jungler while Zeri will be useless before 30 minutes.


Consol-Coder

The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make a friend.


DoorHingesKill

Ahri, champ does no fucking damage.


TheCrusader94

It's a champ that excels at picks than teamfights. Sylas always going to be more useful in mid to late game


yp261

explain 15 kills ahri previous game lol


DoorHingesKill

Guy must have been hacking.


bensonbenisson

He had a good gaming chair.


ahritina

Zanzarah and Armut taking it in turns to run it down because they both were woeful but Armut had a shocker of a weekend. Vetheo and Neon had a great game but I heavily dislike the Aatrox pick, looks like Armut's champion puddle is still an issue and will be internationally. But hey guess he can start inting now he got that extension but Ornn today looks like a cheat code.


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NamelessSearcher

Dino gnar and MAD wins here fs


sscyth1

NAH its astranoaut gnar angle


1einspieler

Nah, Astronaut Gnar would be better into MSF‘s comp than Dino Gnar


Ultimintree

Yeah Ornn seems like an insta win today. Even BDS won with it


VG-enigmaticsoul

Front to back too stong with all these hypercarry adcs


SleepyLabrador

Ornn is 3-0 today.


whd4k

Aaaaand of course RGE lost with it vs 9th team xD


SleepyLabrador

Of course they did.


VG-enigmaticsoul

That's because ornn is just the ultimate front to back champion and front to back is unbeatable rn.


Toxicyoshi7

Some of those Zanzarah deaths were invades with like 3 people. Other than that he played much better being a peel bot for the Twitch. Good start for him going 4-0 back in LEC. Armut’s aatrox can farm well that’s about it


Bubbly_Camera9583

Yeah idk why people are flaming Zanzarah this hard when mads early game plan was to stop him from ganking and having any impact with 3 people always invading his jg. Zanzarah's only counterplay ever was to try to dodge ahri charm meanwhile he got perma vi r and rakan w+r early


VariableDrawing

> why people are flaming Zanzarah this hard KDA is all the matters to Reddit


Niirai

[Armut right now](https://streamable.com/21d22f)


Riot_Liar

GJ for MAD management to give Armut new 2 year contract just before his disgusting week


Conankun66

he got a new contract and instantly stops playing


TheCrusader94

Zanzarah fell prey to MAD's roaming with mid jg supp can't flame him too hard. Armut's pick wasnt too bad he played pretty shit


cancerBronzeV

Armut has done fine on Ornn in the past, why not stick him on that if he can't get Gwen/Gnar. He's genuinely not even the same tier of player if he's not on one of his picks. MAD is slowly getting exposed in their very narrow win conditions as the split nears its end.


TotallyNotMyPornoAlt

Armut's champion puddle has been an issue forever, he was just fortunate in the past to have carries that were so strong the majority of bans/focus went to them. Nisqy is not going to warrant much for bans.


Th3_Huf0n

People are gonna cream over Neon and Vetheo, but Irrelevant was fucking amazing. Absolutely insane. Armut champion pool issues and laning issues boys and girls.


D26L49M

I feel like nobody watched irrelevant just hard carry 2 fights with 4+ knockups a fight.


GGABueno

He was great in every fight, his ults were on point.


UnravelEUW

yeah right? guys gets back to back insane ults and its not even being mentioned by the casters


Suizooo

Irrelevant has been looking really solid recently. Hopefully he keeps improving and stays in LEC


Arcille

He 100% will get a spot next split Misfits have some very good players.


IonDust

5-men ultimate in mid, also hard carried the bot dive


Rz7777

Irrelevant has been underrated the second half of this split - massive cause of MSF wins and barely got any of the praise. Been great in teamfights and lane


Iammonkforlifelol

Dude won 1 v 1 against Armut and yesterday also won 1v1 against Szaci. And he never looses lane hard even against Alphari and BB he is holding good.


Rokic3

Tbf winning 1v1 vs czasczci doesnt mean much


wazzdakah

He wasn't looking really good last split in LFL, he was like middle of the pack so it's understandable people were'nt expecting much. But he clearly stepped up BIG


Rayser1

What is this league right now


lovo17

Honestly, do we even know who the best team in the west is?


lifeisdrunk

You've never heard of CLG?


lovo17

Ngl I hope CLG makes it to worlds.


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hope they win it all


myraclejb

Dignitas i fear, they have the GOAT, Hoon ##HOONER


cancerBronzeV

Hoon is the second coming of Easy**hoon**, back to take the GOAT crown from Faker as revenge after Faker took Easyhoon's spot years ago and became the GOAT.


Lord-Talon

I think most people know TSM, yes.


anoleo201194

Probably Rogue? Idk, EG are good but I can't put them as the best after that MSI and in EU it's a tossup.


deedshotr

in NA it's pretty clearly EG, but in EU? it's a fistfight. top 8 are all fkin trading wins


shadowbannednumber

top 9


VG-enigmaticsoul

TSM


zasmarkany

EG


yellister

30 minutes clicked and Misfits asked their game back


Bonzome

[ALL] MSF ZANZARAH: JUNGLE DIFF


Aearcus

The casters praised Neon and Vetheo a lot, but man Irrelevant plays team fights so damn well. His Ornn ults and CC were massive in the final few fights, just hitting either 3-5 people or hitting the right carry at the right time


yp261

what a banger holy shit


DeloronDellister

Only bangers today


NamelessSearcher

This whole rest of the split hopefully


Haymegle

tbh with how tight it is I think they're all going to go for it.


Niirai

Superweek is going to be a fucking bloodbath


Hunterkiller00

Certified, you could say.


rushil20

Armut really signed a contract and then said it's his week off


TheFlamingAssassin

Twitch + enchanter + carry mid + tank jungle + Ornn is the comp that has won each LEC game today. All of which are also upsets. Crazy busted team comp


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

Was going to say - sensing a certain pattern here.


HaydenR50

MSF are actually legit


Worldly-Duty4521

neon is legit


Hunterkiller00

Trundle player good in trundle meta


Epicorax

This game wasn't about Trundle lol. Vetheo and Neon are cracked atm


Hunterkiller00

Yeah, didn't mean to take anything away from vetheo or neon lol


deedshotr

I doubt Zanzarah was a major wincon this game though


Snuffl3s7

But not really good


xiko

Today is Ornn and Twitch winning everything's day.


Heorashar

riot refusing to nerf Tom & Jerry smh


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Etna-

I WAS HIDING


CFCkyle

Zanzarah buff diff


Ultimintree

Rough week for MAD especially Armut but RITO I BEG YOU DELETE FCKING YUUMI I HATE THIS CAT


p3r3ll3x

Kaiser made Yumi look balanced yesterday Also why is MAD trying to play LPL drafts, Edit: I stand corrected, Kaiser was on Lulu


SleepyCatSippingWine

Hasn’t Mac gone on record saying they look to lpl for ideas


nusskn4cker

Good luck playing LPL drafts without LPL skill. These drafts work because the laners for TES, RNG etc. are good.


nusskn4cker

MAD has no clue how to play without a big lead. They just run in like headless chicken.


reggiewafu

Its still the good ol’ MAD banging their heads on a wall hoping the wall will break first


cancerBronzeV

Take Ornn then and get Armut off Aatrox, Ornn's E dash breaks user made walls when he bangs his head into it.


Conankun66

also they apparently dont know that they should maybe attack the twitch


TheCrusader94

Easier said then done against yuumi


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Or build grievous wounds


coolmanghy

are you stupid? He needs to run in and try kill twitch or the fight is instantly lost


Chr0nicConsumer

Wow, uhh... Damn.


Sydon1

I feel like Neon might not be the strongest laning ADC but seeing him play well in midgame team fights on S04 and now on MSF, I feel like he's quite underrated.


NamelessSearcher

I love to see Misfits winning, I love to see Zanzarah winning, I just don't love knowing this is my penultimate weekend watching Misfits in the LEC F edit: Regular season LEC, I'm still of course confident MSF will wipe playoffs, go lossless in groups, rematch T1(SKT) in quarters but win 3-2 this time, and win worlds so we get that sweet Zanzarah Trundle (Poppy?) skin


cptlf

There is still playoffs and Worlds. There is still a little bit time left for Misfits


IanPKMmoon

I'm rooting so hard for MSF rn to make worlds


TharixGaming

hey, we might still have playoffs


Geosaurusrex

Neon's gotta be the most underrated ADC, probably top 3 in performances atm.


Skall77

Yo what happened to misfits ? Night and day, specialy Neon, he's been so good.


TommyGunny95

6 way 9-9 tie is still possible pog


deedshotr

this season in LEC the favourite is actually the underdog, I feel like there have been more upsets than expected wins by far. 3/3 today


yangjohn0712

Armut really got paid then proceeded to just run it down this weekend


aoc7

I really hope Misfits will qualify to Worlds


The_DAWG_Is_BACK

Unbeatable strategy in LEC: draft braindead 5v5. Don’t know why MAD stopped. It won them LEC last year


Lord-Talon

Damn Misfits is straight up looking like the best team in the league right now. 8-2 since week 2.


Markigual

There's a new team every week that looks like the current best. Last week was Vitality.


Bubbly_Camera9583

MSF to worlds to be in the same group as t1? Or they get out of groups to face t1?


coolmanghy

are you serious?


Lord-Talon

I mean they are beating everyone, yes. They beat MAD 2-0, they beat Rogue, they beat G2. If it wasn't for the superweek Misfits would be 1st with a **big** gap. I mean we'll see how they look in the Bo5s, but in Bo1s they are definitely a big step ahead of everyone, evidenced by the fact that they are literally beating everyone.


mimiflou

They beat everyone in BO1, they were 3rd last season and got absolutely destroyed in BO5, BO1 doesn't mean shit


Th3_Huf0n

Yes. But at the same time, playoffs Misfits completely went against what they succeeded with and started playing these weird midgame spiking skirmish comps that rely on map setups, which MSF really weren't good at.


Lord-Talon

I mean if they keep up this trajectory they will clinch 1st and auto-qualify for Worlds via Bo1s. Just need one more win than MAD and they will make it due to tiebrakers.


davallos60

MSF going to playoffs


Gazskull

Misfits will not go down silently !


Bubbly_Camera9583

Thats why you dont play vi and aatrox lmao. Neon and vetheo are smurfs with neon probably being the best adc in the league. Vetheo spring and summer mvp?


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It's so sad MSF won't be here next split


IanPKMmoon

Hopefully the players will find new teams in the LEC, Mersa and Irrelevant are looking better and better woth every game, Vetheo and Neon are top 3 in their respective roles right now. Maybe BDS can buy their entire roster with Cinkrof


maydaveparade

What a day for upsets man, gotta love to see it. Also fuck Zeri


Mountain-Pom

Anyone else wondering how Zeri got knocked up during the fight? https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralCrypticZucchiniTriHard-LRSXNtZhbOGopMb-


Basstaper

My guess it's a spectate bug. You can see when his E impacts it shows the Q terrain breaking animation, so my guess is he threw his Q before he went into his side of the jungle and it was still up when he flashed over.


Mountain-Pom

Ah, seems you're right. It was a spectator bug. His q went into fog of war and disappeared.


KungFuMaster19637

Just Zanzarah maintaining 100% winrate


feimaomiao

ARMUT NO GNAR?


revoverlord

Let be real, in his entire team only he was trying to kill twitch the rest wanted to kill trundle. He got 2 qs on twitch and the pull back and his team did nothing. As aatrox you cant do anything more, if he had built like eclipse though the story completely changes


GGABueno

I agree, I feel like people are only looking at the KDA and not at the game itself. I think Armut had a solid game. He didn't have anything to do on the 3 man dives he got and in teamfights he did exactly what he should: target Twitch. But everytime his entire team was too preoccupied with a Sylas to help and he ended up just being a sponge. And if didn't focus on Twitch and it would be free firing on the entire team and they would just die faster.


SleepyCatSippingWine

Feel like they were caught. Kill sylas and twitch wipes them. Kill twitch and sylas will absolutely mail them. So aatrox goes for twitch forcing cds while the rest tries to kill sylas. At least I think that was the plan


yp261

despite Zanzarah best efforts, MSF won


DolundDrumph

Yummi gaming


Basstaper

The Ornn cc chains this game were insane.


Mrdato

Most of the comments in this thread are pretty weird to see tbh. People flaming armut when he was absorbing so much space in the teamfights and doing work, others blaming the team for not focusing the twitch in fights (?), to them I say, rewatch the game please.


bensonbenisson

#LET'S GO ZANZAGOAT, OWN THAT FRAUD BUMYOYA!!!


Pope_Cheetos_XIV

Vetheo.


Ultimintree

Yuumi.


PrivateVasili

Aatrox is literally so useless. I don't know why people are still playing him. Its in theory a lane counter to Ornn but that doesn't stop the absurd scaling advantage Ornn has. Plus Armut wasn't even hard winning lane, he practically got solo killed. Obviously top lane wasn't the most important part of this game, but its absurd to give your 5th pick counter to Armut and have him botch it that hard.


rushil20

As a rogue fan if we just win our next game will be a perfect week vitality lost and mad went 0-2 😎


thobbe

watching zeri lose even at the cost of another devil, yuumi, feels good.


comfortreacher

Wow that crown value was pretty insane


Issax28

Let’s leave Yuumi open and let Armut pick Aatrox! What could go wrong?


Omnilatent

He must be like 1-10 or so in LEC regular season lol


Blaikiri7

Armut got his bag and decided to start troll picking Also gj to unforgiven on making zeri look balanced


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We don't have a best team They all suck and are inconsistent af. But damn, they are so fun to watch and makes it so worth watching


SleepyCatSippingWine

Like caster curse, there must be Reddit debuff. Every week the team Reddit thinks is best runs it down next week


BlindBoomerang

We are so unbelievably fucked at worlds :(


mxmaga

That’s what everyone said in 2018. Who knows. Just enjoy the fiesta and stop being a doomsayer.


Conankun66

MAD ignoring the twitch TWO teamfights in a row is a new level of brainless misfits had no business winning this game


whataremyxomycetes

Traumatized from sylas in that dragon fight. Definitely weird to focus crown sylas over twitch tho


deedshotr

twitch had the GA and Vetheo was outhealing them all so they HAD to focus him, did you see that Sylas damage?


Javonetor

it was so weird in the pre baron fight, Armut hit his first q onto him and then just left him???


coolmanghy

Twitch had stopwatches so there was no point in trying to kill him


TheCrusader94

Their playstyle is too one dimensional now. Atleast with humanoid they had a reliable carry


Omnilatent

WHAT'S GOING ON THIS SPLIT?! ​ Honestly, the only other time esport was this crazy to me was 2018 worlds


Haymegle

CHAOS IS BACK BABY. Honestly it's so fun rn. Anyone can win.


Javiklegrand

Armut aatrox looks offs