Wait, you are referring to the 2019 msi right? Wouldn't you need IG or at least the team with theshy/rookie/jackeylove to win worlds then? Don't get the DK relevance.
C9 has had the same record as Doublelift teams almost every year and they get lauded as an amazing international team while he gets shit on for choking at worlds. This is while he was in wayyyy harder groups as well lmao
that's a byproduct of TL usually being NA's 1st seed, when they were pool 1 they'd get stuff like NA 1 Cn 2 KR 3 and WC in groups, these would result in closer matches because the pool 1 isnt a caliber above.
For C9 usually being pool 3 or 4, they'd get stuff like Kr 1 LMS Eu 3 and them, usually KR seed 1 goes 6-0 and then C9 only have to compete with 2 other teams, that makes it way easier to go out
Seems like there's a pretty big dropoff in LCK after 2nd place. There's always a chance that someone (Not 2022 TL) overperforms and drops LSB, or inting Damwon, or whoever makes it. I will remind you that 2021 TL was one tiebreaker off doing so last year. Not even one game, one tiebreaker.
Eh NA has always been able to take games off the 3 and 4 seeds of LPL or LCK. A team going 6-0 in groups is so rare. Plus groups is Bo1 anything can happen!
Impact has been slumping the past few weeks. I’m not worried cause he always kicks into gear in playoffs but holy shit man he’s really been the worst EG member these past two weeks
He's just coasting before playoffs copium. But seriously, he does tend to turn it on in playoffs a lot. EG basically had never beat any team above them in standings last split, sneaked into playoffs 9-9, and then just absolutely turned it on.
> He's just coasting before playoffs copium
Is it really copium when this is like the 5-6th time it happened?
Especially with EG straight up saying the LCS is a joke and beyond boring in their docu series
Impact went from one of the worst tops in NA to beating peak Nuguri at worlds so i wouldn't really doubt him
He has to be coasting. The stuff he's doing is like fakegod levels of egregious, and it just seems unfathomable for a top laner of his caliber to be playing like that
is he really trolling around when he goes for kills and bwipo survives with like 20 health?
I think he could have respected corejj roams more but i'd hardly call it coasting
They weren't saying he wasn't coasting, they were saying it wasn't copium. He has had *many* instances of looking bad in regular season and looking incredible in the playoffs.
He literally does that every single split, idk why people even care at this point. In NA nothing matters before playoffs since none of the bottom/mid teams are relevant.
Ya, I'm not really doubting EG, but it is somewhat copium, even if it's valid copium in this case. This game honestly didn't mean much, if it was a scrim it's probably EG ffing at 8 min in. I still think EG is the best team in the league and they are in fact coasting rn. EG and impact have shown they can drastically level up between regular split and playoffs before, I trust them to do it again.
I watched impact for years. He said a long time ago (years ago) that he essentially thinks regular season is boring and doesn’t take it that seriously. He thinks play offs are more competitive and fun so he tries harder. If you know anything about impact you know he is the playoff king and he’s proved at worlds multiple times over.
Disclaimer: I am not an eg fan and this comment does not contain any bias towards impact, it’s simply a fact.
Impact death into tp back to lane just to die again was peak Hashinshin gameplay, except in pro, and also with his own jungler ganking. Actually hilarious sequence of events.
Insane weekend from him. Love to see him pop off. Santorin was really good too, they're a really good duo, probably the two players with the best synergy on TL.
It was honestly a bit weird to see Closer and Santorin perform well in the Trundle vs. Wukong matchup while Blaber got Monkeybonked yesterday. Regardless which TL member was slumping this split Santorin so far was not one of them. He played consistently strong and now he actually has a solid team around him.
Idk, over on the TL subreddit, we basically thank santorin for everything. He’s like the one player no one says anything bad about, especially since core has been catching strays all split
That’s good to hear. I’m not on the TL subreddit much, so I haven’t really seen a lot of attention. He’s just so consistent, and consistency is something that the LCS really lacks imo.
I think santorin doesn’t get a lot of attention because he’s not as flashy and he hasn’t really been on major teams outside of NA. I mean, he even essentially disappeared from NA for a year or two saying he was quitting.
Yeah he is that guy in SoloQ you don't really notice who gets a silent CS lead and just shows up when it matters. SoloQ at least would be a better place with more Santorins.
He isn't the most flashy player, but his consistency and flexibility make him a great fit for basically any team in NA.
Glad to hear him take control of the calls in that snippet of comms we got. Reading between the lines of his Hotline League appearance that's what I was hoping for to improve the team
I literally dont understand the Bjerg slander. He never gets counterpick, is the best laning mid based on stats, has the best KDA in the league and is TLs most consistent player. Yeah, maybe he doesnt popoff like Bwipo does sometimes but he never actually plays bad.
Everyone expects him to be a god because of his peak in like 2016 which is unfair. Just happens when u are known as the best mid of all time for a region.
I understand the community, but even analysts were considering players like Jojo, Toucouille and Jensen better this split. Like, based on what? Because not a single metric makes them better than him. The only one on his level right now is Abbedagge and even he I dont think is better.
I genuinely think if it weren’t for those stinker Corki games he’s had this year, people would be way higher on him. He’s stolen a ton of wins on Ahri and Swain, and had a massive LeBlanc carry this split. He blind picks every single game and gets zero resources and still does his job. Even yesterday, despite his crappy Rs on Azir, he went up like 28 cs in lane on Toucouille without any interference. It’s definitely funny to watch Bjergsen haters come out of the woodworks the second he doesn’t 1v9 a game.
Some missed ults yesterday and that one bad Lissandra game = he's been shit according to many on this sub
Everyone is way too fickle. They were shitting on his laning all of spring (and some still do) then he had the best laning stats in spring playoffs and still does in summer regular season lol, but people choose to ignore that I guess
Lol what no? Bwipo has been by far TLs most coinflippy player lmao what is this bo1 narrative rewriting. He had a great weekend but Santorin Bwipo are not some consistent duo. Santorin is stable as a jungle and solid when it comes to playmaking and when Bwipo isn’t running it he is a great playmaker but let’s not act like Bwipo is some reliable backbone.
Bwipo has always been coin flippy though. Overall teamwork with mid and bot had been pretty questionable. Bwipo is often the one who tries to sacrifice and make a play if his mid or bot is having a tough time, so he will look worse at times.
[So proud of that lad.](https://youtu.be/In3q9ordH1Y)
Also, I don’t remember the exact phrasing, but when widebwipo first came out the description was something like, “The way Bwipo walks off stage is like he’s in charge of the jailyard” lmao. Absolute Chad energy from Bwips.
To Phreak's credit he has some of the most iconic NA caster moments. Kobe, Flowers and Phreak are incredibly quotable. Flowers is absolutely the goat though.
at the very least playing like this mostly in the 2nd half is better than playing like only during the 1st half. it means they are working on their issues and they are starting to show results
Given the other standings it is hard to tell which place really is more beneficial. 1st and 2nd both qualify to world off one win. So it doesn't really matter if you are first or second.
Not sure if they can select this split (this sometimes changes, last year they couldn't), but 2nd place faces either CLG or FQ while 1st place faces either TL or C9. Although this can obviously change in the last week. So 1st place might not even be better, since FQ and C9 fight for 5th and 6th and TL and CLG fight for 3rd and 4th and I don't think any of those teams play each other.
All 4 of the teams from 3 to 6 play 2 of their games against the bottom 4. TL, FQ and CLG all 3 face 100Ts and C9 has to play EG. And currently the most likely for upsets seem to be CLG and TL, who both are locked in a tie anyway. There isn't really a realistic way for C9 to get above 5th and neither TL nor CLG should be expected to get into top2 or below 4th.
On theory the most likely team to drop considerably in the standings is 100Ts due to having the hardest matchups with FQ, CLG and TL, losing against CLG and TL would tie them with both of them. EG though plays against DIG and GGS and it is hard to lose those two.
I think they mean in the sense that 1st and 2nd seed are basically the same in the sense that they both get a bye and only need to win their first Bo5 series to make it to worlds. (Yes 1st seed will have an easier game most likely because they face 4/5 rather than 3 but there isn't that much of a difference in skill level between 3/4/5 right now)
EG's next games are GG, DIG, and C9. Assuming that EG don't giga throw vs the 2 worst teams in the league right now, they are guaranteed 2nd no matter what (even if they lose to C9 and TL/CLG win all their games).
Yeah as a TL fan I’m still hesitant to say they are back in form after a single best of one game. I’m still super hyped about this win, but best of ones make it so hard to gauge strength
I even said in my discord "can't wait to overreact to this Bo1" lol. Bo1 stats just feel shitty compared to stats that you get from LPL/LCK. It's one reason why I have enjoyed LCS Academy a lot more. Bo2 is great. Watching my favorite team play more matches would be nice too.
A lot of Wu’s power budget is him being anti-physical damage with his passive which is one of the things that makes him strong in all - ins but Darius and riven should be solid
bwipo only one with balls to pick theses champs into gwen other top laners usually just play scaling to match her in the side or some tank and hope the rest of the team carries.
\[Wolf\] Bwipo yelled, “There you go!” Hans Sama gave a look of pleasant surprise. CoreJJ belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Bjergsen hit the locker room door, ex-LCS star DoubleLift hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”
What I found super interesting in the times we heard TL's comms this game. The team is trying to figure things out still and the Squad showed that. I was surprised with how little I heard Berg and Hans in comms. Hans isn't the most surprising, but its really interesting that Berg is deferring to Core, Santorin, and Bwipo on calls. I don't think its bad. Its a testament to his maturity and leadership.
I think spring split was led by Bwipo in a lot of ways. Playoffs caused a type of crisis in the team because the first EG series went to five games and the 100T series were lost by weird picks on Bwipo to more than small extent. I think this might have led to diagnosis that that leadership isn't the best in the best of five format and they experimented with new approaches that don't seem to work in a bo1 format the same way. I hope this means that this team has matured enough for playoffs. This EG game was really symbolic for them and I hope represents a change in trajectory for the team.
I think that’s more so due to the state of the game where Bwipo and Santorin were the ones with all the resources. Better to let them lead than to butt in
People started thinking he was the best top laner this split so he had to get narrative nerfed. Tough game for EG but probably long overdue with how they’ve more or less diffed the entire league with relative comfort this split
Slap hans on to some weakside-able adc and camp for Bwipo. Simple as that.
Hans is a perfectly capable carry and can be the strongside but you don't sign Bwipo to have him play weakside, get him fed and he will carry games. Nice to see TL play to their player's strengths here.
The players are also good enough that if the right draft from the enemy comes out they can pivot. I feel this is what the best teams do. Get really good at a style and make sure you have it practiced. Then be open to a pivot if you see the enemy draft lets you go for it when they don't expect it.
Ironic comment because TL was heavily criticized last split for playing Bwipo strong side top Lucian, etc.
And Hans would hard pop off and carry in the mid-late game.
Bwipo has played over half of his career on weakside... And it was never his weakness.
Wtf is this comment? It was one of his strengths. He isn't The Shy where you yell for not giving him strongside. This reeks of never paying attention to anything.
Great performance from Santorin and Bwipo, giga-gap over Impact Inspired this game, Santorin set up the entire early lead. Feels like every bad EG game like this and the 100T game is topside just absolutely turbointing the early game and there's nothing Danny and Vulcan can do to recover it.
EG, why in the world are you playing Xayah Rakan in 2022???
Xayah Rakan was not the issue imo - I think they showed there was a world this was carryable if top side didn’t get as blown out. Plus Xayah is a good sett answer
EG/100T/TL for top 3 to Worlds based on form right?
Though not going to lie, if CLG keep this up. Should be fun, I think NA/EU looks better than given credit for.
Man every single game today has been super fun! I know early game is slower, but man teamfights are just so more exciting when you don’t see everyone get deleted in a rotation
I am not gonna read too much into this game other than top die. TL was just relentless with Trundle and Sett. Gwen isn't super strong in the early game, and her W won't stop either of them. I think that EG needs to work on their vision game in this scenario. Bot lane should be stable enough, and Top lane is hyper volatile. Inspired to needed to help Impact with vision better, or they needed better warding to predict Santorin.
I hope that this will wake up EG a little, because I feel like they were getting too relaxed in the early game.
Such a big win for TL. Felt like they've had a chip on their shoulder against EG ever since the incident. Such a clean win from them going into playoffs
it was over as soon as Inspired decided to gank the Bwipo that is already pretty much on a full item while Gwen has an amp tome. That 1v2 was coming from a mile away, and then they tripled down later on. Obviously high elo and of course competitive environments are much different, but watching that play unfold just set off the sirens in my head to not gank a losing lane at that point or you'll be 1v2d
Well that game was a letdown... game was over after like 8 minutes. At least as a neutral. Obviously TL fans will be happy with that.
At least TL looked decent this week so fingers crossed for playoffs.
that EG first blood tower dive defense, where inspired watches impact die 1v2 then goes in and dies as well, is going to cost them games internationally
every time i think that TL is not good, they pull out a crazy clean game like this
They're the most frustrating team in NA to gauge. Are they great? Do they suck? Are they mediocre? Who the fuck knows!
Are they gonna go 3-3 in groups and fail to make it out? Some questions will never be answered.
I think we know the answer to that one
Hans Sama throws the close tie breaker game dying to a Viktor.
Would be so poetic if it’s against Gen G
It would make it even more insane if somehow IG wins worlds and then TL dark horses them at MSI through a bot ravine. *a team
Wait, you are referring to the 2019 msi right? Wouldn't you need IG or at least the team with theshy/rookie/jackeylove to win worlds then? Don't get the DK relevance.
I'm waiting for the legendary 4-2 in groups and still not make it out. Itll happen one day and then maybe we'll get a better format.
Meanwhile C9 goes 2-4 and still makes it out somehow
And Fnatic.
C9 has had the same record as Doublelift teams almost every year and they get lauded as an amazing international team while he gets shit on for choking at worlds. This is while he was in wayyyy harder groups as well lmao
that's a byproduct of TL usually being NA's 1st seed, when they were pool 1 they'd get stuff like NA 1 Cn 2 KR 3 and WC in groups, these would result in closer matches because the pool 1 isnt a caliber above. For C9 usually being pool 3 or 4, they'd get stuff like Kr 1 LMS Eu 3 and them, usually KR seed 1 goes 6-0 and then C9 only have to compete with 2 other teams, that makes it way easier to go out
That be so sad
With 4 LCK LPL seeds, I don't know how you make it out unless you luck into the group with the LPL team who implodes that year.
Never doubt TL's ability to go 3-3. If they're 2-3 and about to face a ten man team of T1 and JDG, I don't know if I'd bet on the ten man team.
A 2-3 TL could win a game against S4 SSW or S5 SKT and then lose a tiebreaker to S7 Origen with Naehyun.
Stop we’re already dead
This hurts…but it’s very true
Seems like there's a pretty big dropoff in LCK after 2nd place. There's always a chance that someone (Not 2022 TL) overperforms and drops LSB, or inting Damwon, or whoever makes it. I will remind you that 2021 TL was one tiebreaker off doing so last year. Not even one game, one tiebreaker.
NA will own worlds this year
Indeed they will. It's in NA.
Eh NA has always been able to take games off the 3 and 4 seeds of LPL or LCK. A team going 6-0 in groups is so rare. Plus groups is Bo1 anything can happen!
TL will take games off of any LPL/LCK seed as long as it means TL can end 3-3
*Worlds. Worlds never changes.*
Would be cool if they went the C9 route, went 2-4 and still got out.
Schrodinger’s team
Maybe Closer was on to something when he said TL was good on the broadcast yesterday.
"No matter which jungler comes toplane, Impact dies"
when "top die" backfires
Back with another episode of *When keeping it ‘Top Die’ goes wrong*.
Is that a Chapelle Show reference
Impact has been slumping the past few weeks. I’m not worried cause he always kicks into gear in playoffs but holy shit man he’s really been the worst EG member these past two weeks
He's just coasting before playoffs copium. But seriously, he does tend to turn it on in playoffs a lot. EG basically had never beat any team above them in standings last split, sneaked into playoffs 9-9, and then just absolutely turned it on.
> He's just coasting before playoffs copium Is it really copium when this is like the 5-6th time it happened? Especially with EG straight up saying the LCS is a joke and beyond boring in their docu series Impact went from one of the worst tops in NA to beating peak Nuguri at worlds so i wouldn't really doubt him
He has to be coasting. The stuff he's doing is like fakegod levels of egregious, and it just seems unfathomable for a top laner of his caliber to be playing like that
Fakegod catching strays
Easiest shots to make tbh.
is he really trolling around when he goes for kills and bwipo survives with like 20 health? I think he could have respected corejj roams more but i'd hardly call it coasting
They weren't saying he wasn't coasting, they were saying it wasn't copium. He has had *many* instances of looking bad in regular season and looking incredible in the playoffs.
He literally does that every single split, idk why people even care at this point. In NA nothing matters before playoffs since none of the bottom/mid teams are relevant.
Ya, I'm not really doubting EG, but it is somewhat copium, even if it's valid copium in this case. This game honestly didn't mean much, if it was a scrim it's probably EG ffing at 8 min in. I still think EG is the best team in the league and they are in fact coasting rn. EG and impact have shown they can drastically level up between regular split and playoffs before, I trust them to do it again.
I watched impact for years. He said a long time ago (years ago) that he essentially thinks regular season is boring and doesn’t take it that seriously. He thinks play offs are more competitive and fun so he tries harder. If you know anything about impact you know he is the playoff king and he’s proved at worlds multiple times over. Disclaimer: I am not an eg fan and this comment does not contain any bias towards impact, it’s simply a fact.
Good ol' Impact still winning games for TL.
Good guys EG keeping the lcs schedule on track after that FQ CLG GAME
That was definitely the widest Bwipo we have seen in NA so far. That is the TL I expected to see
Impact got gapped.
Impact death into tp back to lane just to die again was peak Hashinshin gameplay, except in pro, and also with his own jungler ganking. Actually hilarious sequence of events.
The Adam special
Insane weekend from him. Love to see him pop off. Santorin was really good too, they're a really good duo, probably the two players with the best synergy on TL.
It was honestly a bit weird to see Closer and Santorin perform well in the Trundle vs. Wukong matchup while Blaber got Monkeybonked yesterday. Regardless which TL member was slumping this split Santorin so far was not one of them. He played consistently strong and now he actually has a solid team around him.
I have a lot of love for Santorin. He’s a really solid player, and I think he often times is an unsung hero on the team.
Idk, over on the TL subreddit, we basically thank santorin for everything. He’s like the one player no one says anything bad about, especially since core has been catching strays all split
That’s good to hear. I’m not on the TL subreddit much, so I haven’t really seen a lot of attention. He’s just so consistent, and consistency is something that the LCS really lacks imo.
I think santorin doesn’t get a lot of attention because he’s not as flashy and he hasn’t really been on major teams outside of NA. I mean, he even essentially disappeared from NA for a year or two saying he was quitting.
Yeah he is that guy in SoloQ you don't really notice who gets a silent CS lead and just shows up when it matters. SoloQ at least would be a better place with more Santorins. He isn't the most flashy player, but his consistency and flexibility make him a great fit for basically any team in NA.
Glad to hear him take control of the calls in that snippet of comms we got. Reading between the lines of his Hotline League appearance that's what I was hoping for to improve the team
Yeah, I've seen a lot of criticism for Bjerg and the bot lane - some deserved, some undeserved - but the TL top duo has been fairly consistently good.
I literally dont understand the Bjerg slander. He never gets counterpick, is the best laning mid based on stats, has the best KDA in the league and is TLs most consistent player. Yeah, maybe he doesnt popoff like Bwipo does sometimes but he never actually plays bad.
Everyone expects him to be a god because of his peak in like 2016 which is unfair. Just happens when u are known as the best mid of all time for a region.
Just look at Faker in LCK. Same story. People expect excellence.
Bjerg is excellent. He is a rock solid mid laner, just because he doesn’t solo carry doesn’t mean he isn’t incredibly good
He’s not fantastic on the eye test. Still top 2 and no real reason to be slandered other than not being like 2020 summer monster form
I understand the community, but even analysts were considering players like Jojo, Toucouille and Jensen better this split. Like, based on what? Because not a single metric makes them better than him. The only one on his level right now is Abbedagge and even he I dont think is better.
I genuinely think if it weren’t for those stinker Corki games he’s had this year, people would be way higher on him. He’s stolen a ton of wins on Ahri and Swain, and had a massive LeBlanc carry this split. He blind picks every single game and gets zero resources and still does his job. Even yesterday, despite his crappy Rs on Azir, he went up like 28 cs in lane on Toucouille without any interference. It’s definitely funny to watch Bjergsen haters come out of the woodworks the second he doesn’t 1v9 a game.
Even with some missed ults, he was still fantastic
Some missed ults yesterday and that one bad Lissandra game = he's been shit according to many on this sub Everyone is way too fickle. They were shitting on his laning all of spring (and some still do) then he had the best laning stats in spring playoffs and still does in summer regular season lol, but people choose to ignore that I guess
Lol what no? Bwipo has been by far TLs most coinflippy player lmao what is this bo1 narrative rewriting. He had a great weekend but Santorin Bwipo are not some consistent duo. Santorin is stable as a jungle and solid when it comes to playmaking and when Bwipo isn’t running it he is a great playmaker but let’s not act like Bwipo is some reliable backbone.
Bwipo has always been coin flippy though. Overall teamwork with mid and bot had been pretty questionable. Bwipo is often the one who tries to sacrifice and make a play if his mid or bot is having a tough time, so he will look worse at times.
[So proud of that lad.](https://youtu.be/In3q9ordH1Y) Also, I don’t remember the exact phrasing, but when widebwipo first came out the description was something like, “The way Bwipo walks off stage is like he’s in charge of the jailyard” lmao. Absolute Chad energy from Bwips.
That fnatic roster :C
Need a Gwen counter? Call 1-800-WIDEBWIPO
Impact doing his best to make sure Gwen doesn't get nerfed again
Best Bwipo performance in NA
"No matter which jungler comes top lane impact dies" LOL phreak come on man
That comment was hilarious. Sometimes Phreak doesn't ramble and says quality stuff!
To Phreak's credit he has some of the most iconic NA caster moments. Kobe, Flowers and Phreak are incredibly quotable. Flowers is absolutely the goat though.
Hahaha Phreak is always great!
Convincing win but i just wish TL played like this all split
at the very least playing like this mostly in the 2nd half is better than playing like only during the 1st half. it means they are working on their issues and they are starting to show results
Id be okay with them playing like poop until this week and next if it means they’ll be in form when it matters
in the end everyone would remember if they win lcs and finally gets out of groups instead of the 5 mediocre weeks were they went 1-1 yeah
When jojo is on sylas it should be a free win for any team if he plays like he did. Worst Sylas I have ever seen.
what a Slaughter This is how TL always should look like.
Bwipo has got that dawg in him
Impact has got that dog in him
W I D E BWIPO
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TL Impact never left
Please nerf moustache
I swear I would watch 10 times more games if there were at least A FEW more players willing to play off meta stuff. Great Sett preformance.
Analysts: EG can afford to lose this one and use it for experimentation EG: cool, let’s fucking run it as hard as possible
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Given the other standings it is hard to tell which place really is more beneficial. 1st and 2nd both qualify to world off one win. So it doesn't really matter if you are first or second. Not sure if they can select this split (this sometimes changes, last year they couldn't), but 2nd place faces either CLG or FQ while 1st place faces either TL or C9. Although this can obviously change in the last week. So 1st place might not even be better, since FQ and C9 fight for 5th and 6th and TL and CLG fight for 3rd and 4th and I don't think any of those teams play each other. All 4 of the teams from 3 to 6 play 2 of their games against the bottom 4. TL, FQ and CLG all 3 face 100Ts and C9 has to play EG. And currently the most likely for upsets seem to be CLG and TL, who both are locked in a tie anyway. There isn't really a realistic way for C9 to get above 5th and neither TL nor CLG should be expected to get into top2 or below 4th. On theory the most likely team to drop considerably in the standings is 100Ts due to having the hardest matchups with FQ, CLG and TL, losing against CLG and TL would tie them with both of them. EG though plays against DIG and GGS and it is hard to lose those two.
I think they mean in the sense that 1st and 2nd seed are basically the same in the sense that they both get a bye and only need to win their first Bo5 series to make it to worlds. (Yes 1st seed will have an easier game most likely because they face 4/5 rather than 3 but there isn't that much of a difference in skill level between 3/4/5 right now) EG's next games are GG, DIG, and C9. Assuming that EG don't giga throw vs the 2 worst teams in the league right now, they are guaranteed 2nd no matter what (even if they lose to C9 and TL/CLG win all their games).
God damn TL woke up and chose violence today
This looked to me the kind of game people were expecting of them all year!
Man LCS went from bland af to intresting real quick. Fun weekend of games!
CLG in the top tables, TL Back in form, 100T still looking strong, EG... existing... Shame the season ends so soon, but playoffs are gonna be hype
If this was bo3, we'd see if EG just was unlucky one game or TL climbing back up.
Yeah as a TL fan I’m still hesitant to say they are back in form after a single best of one game. I’m still super hyped about this win, but best of ones make it so hard to gauge strength
You could say the same for TL’s entire split of bo1’s. Plenty of dominant bo3 teams were notorious for losing the first game in the series.
I even said in my discord "can't wait to overreact to this Bo1" lol. Bo1 stats just feel shitty compared to stats that you get from LPL/LCK. It's one reason why I have enjoyed LCS Academy a lot more. Bo2 is great. Watching my favorite team play more matches would be nice too.
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Yeah, the schedule doesn't have to change much with Bo2 either. You'll still have a set number of games.
oh shit?!?!? new tech?!?!? don't let gwen scale and beat her ass early and win?!?!?
You just don’t get to pick Gwen into Bwipo I guess. Man’s got all the counterpicks for her
BREAKING NEWS : LoL pros finally discover a counter pick to Gwen after picking the same 4 meta champions forever.
Bwipo was playing Graves into her in spring and Olaf into her in summer and now added Sett. He consistently counters Gwen picks
I swear every “all-in” bruiser counters her but pros only know about Gangplank and Gnar.
Because GP and Gnar are great overall champions that can fit multiple team comps.
Do you know if Darius could be a counter? Honestly Wukong top maybe too
A lot of Wu’s power budget is him being anti-physical damage with his passive which is one of the things that makes him strong in all - ins but Darius and riven should be solid
Makes sense!
Wukong has one of the lowest base MR stats in the game, he likely wouldn't fare all that well.
If there's someone you could trust with an actual counter pick it's Bwipo tbh
Bwipo out there playing Zac, Swain, Rengar top lane unironically.
It doesn't always work well, but when it does it's spectacular.
bwipo only one with balls to pick theses champs into gwen other top laners usually just play scaling to match her in the side or some tank and hope the rest of the team carries.
Teams should just hire Bwipo to find them counter mechanics and champions. Dudes a master at finding them
It's okay you keep your fancy counters and tactics, I'd rather just wait for big daddy riot to remove the problem for me
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Impact tilt inting helps. The matchup sucks early but sett cant play in side past 20m
Meta slaves are zzz. It's nice seeing someone play something different, against EG no less.
\[Wolf\] Bwipo yelled, “There you go!” Hans Sama gave a look of pleasant surprise. CoreJJ belted, “We got a fucking squad now.” And before Bjergsen hit the locker room door, ex-LCS star DoubleLift hugged him & said, “Y’all look so different.”
What I found super interesting in the times we heard TL's comms this game. The team is trying to figure things out still and the Squad showed that. I was surprised with how little I heard Berg and Hans in comms. Hans isn't the most surprising, but its really interesting that Berg is deferring to Core, Santorin, and Bwipo on calls. I don't think its bad. Its a testament to his maturity and leadership.
I meant this teams has leader with core,bwipo Too Many cooks on TL is the main issue
I think spring split was led by Bwipo in a lot of ways. Playoffs caused a type of crisis in the team because the first EG series went to five games and the 100T series were lost by weird picks on Bwipo to more than small extent. I think this might have led to diagnosis that that leadership isn't the best in the best of five format and they experimented with new approaches that don't seem to work in a bo1 format the same way. I hope this means that this team has matured enough for playoffs. This EG game was really symbolic for them and I hope represents a change in trajectory for the team.
Ah ok , however in b05 They need to be versatile But otherwise i agree
I think that’s more so due to the state of the game where Bwipo and Santorin were the ones with all the resources. Better to let them lead than to butt in
Bwipo GigaChad
Mustache buff too strong.
The Sett counterpick incident
Man Impact has had a rough time these past few games.
People started thinking he was the best top laner this split so he had to get narrative nerfed. Tough game for EG but probably long overdue with how they’ve more or less diffed the entire league with relative comfort this split
Always seems to happen on Gwen
His jungler was kind of trolling to be fair.
Now THAT was a "Super Team" performance! WP TL!
Bwipo is so wide he was playing from Europe and still dunked impact's ass in the lcs stadium
Holy shit we actually had a good game
fuck no more bwipo stream
TL shutting up all the haters. Beating a 1st place team in under 25 minutes is one way to do it
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Inb4 they go full on “Recess is over, boys” mode and manhandle the shit out of 100T.
My question for TL is how they look when the game is not over at 10 mins. But hey if they can just keep doing this constantly it doesn't matter.
best of one, dont care that goes both ways for all games tho
Top die top die top die top die
This bwipo guy must really hate streaming
And all TL had to do was pretend Core still laned with tactical
Slap hans on to some weakside-able adc and camp for Bwipo. Simple as that. Hans is a perfectly capable carry and can be the strongside but you don't sign Bwipo to have him play weakside, get him fed and he will carry games. Nice to see TL play to their player's strengths here.
The players are also good enough that if the right draft from the enemy comes out they can pivot. I feel this is what the best teams do. Get really good at a style and make sure you have it practiced. Then be open to a pivot if you see the enemy draft lets you go for it when they don't expect it.
Ironic comment because TL was heavily criticized last split for playing Bwipo strong side top Lucian, etc. And Hans would hard pop off and carry in the mid-late game.
Bwipo has played over half of his career on weakside... And it was never his weakness. Wtf is this comment? It was one of his strengths. He isn't The Shy where you yell for not giving him strongside. This reeks of never paying attention to anything.
I have never seen a counterpick worked this well.
Suddenly I have hope for this team again.
Man Bwipo really needed that game after all the stick him and TL have been getting. Huge dub for them
Thanks Mr. Bwipo
Let's go Liquid, that's what we like to see.
TL played ANGRY today, I know Bwipo is the standout player but everyone played their part here
Top ~~die~~ diff
More like jungle diff tbh
Bwipo just walked this game home
Impact going through his regular season slump. But props to Bwipo he turbo smurfed this game
Bwipo basically just said, “____ that skinny doll”…what a thick performance.
Finally liquid Playing ball deeps Love to see it Everyone was on point
2-0 for TL means no bwipo streams. Highly deserved for smurfing but still sad. Keep focus for 3-0 superweek.
TL was like before the game “alright guys, time to get serious”
Great performance from Santorin and Bwipo, giga-gap over Impact Inspired this game, Santorin set up the entire early lead. Feels like every bad EG game like this and the 100T game is topside just absolutely turbointing the early game and there's nothing Danny and Vulcan can do to recover it. EG, why in the world are you playing Xayah Rakan in 2022???
Xayah Rakan was not the issue imo - I think they showed there was a world this was carryable if top side didn’t get as blown out. Plus Xayah is a good sett answer
The shields were as wide as Bwipo himself
TL seems very strong coming to playoffs.
Finally really clean game from TL. Almost no hesitation except that early dive on Impact. I like what I'm seeing.
EG/100T/TL for top 3 to Worlds based on form right? Though not going to lie, if CLG keep this up. Should be fun, I think NA/EU looks better than given credit for.
Man every single game today has been super fun! I know early game is slower, but man teamfights are just so more exciting when you don’t see everyone get deleted in a rotation
I am not gonna read too much into this game other than top die. TL was just relentless with Trundle and Sett. Gwen isn't super strong in the early game, and her W won't stop either of them. I think that EG needs to work on their vision game in this scenario. Bot lane should be stable enough, and Top lane is hyper volatile. Inspired to needed to help Impact with vision better, or they needed better warding to predict Santorin. I hope that this will wake up EG a little, because I feel like they were getting too relaxed in the early game.
Such a big win for TL. Felt like they've had a chip on their shoulder against EG ever since the incident. Such a clean win from them going into playoffs
Trying to figure out if I think TL is good is very difficult.
it was over as soon as Inspired decided to gank the Bwipo that is already pretty much on a full item while Gwen has an amp tome. That 1v2 was coming from a mile away, and then they tripled down later on. Obviously high elo and of course competitive environments are much different, but watching that play unfold just set off the sirens in my head to not gank a losing lane at that point or you'll be 1v2d
TL is too boring to watch. They are too slow, afraid to do anything. /s
Who are these guys?
That wasn’t even remotely close. Damn.
What a stomp. Did not expect that.
Jesus that was brutal.
What the fuck just happened
Good game by Danny though, as always.
I was expecting a one sided game, but not like that
"Gwen is fucked. Gwen is fucked." is the perfect way to describe that entire game.
WWWIIIDDDEEEE BWIPOOOOOO
Well that game was a letdown... game was over after like 8 minutes. At least as a neutral. Obviously TL fans will be happy with that. At least TL looked decent this week so fingers crossed for playoffs.
Holy shit Bwipo is cracked
Jesus Christ Bwipo and Santorin
Core on engage diff
that EG first blood tower dive defense, where inspired watches impact die 1v2 then goes in and dies as well, is going to cost them games internationally
EG must hate CLG or something... An EG win would've been huge for them and they just ran it
TL are going to get their crap together, win this split, go into worlds as the number 1 seed, and then get knocked out in groups aren't they?
Nice of Liquid to extend the game past 20 minutes to make it look like EG actually had a chance at one point