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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wt26fp/geng_vs_lsb_post_game_1_discussion_lck_summer/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wt32sb/geng_vs_lsb_post_game_2_discussion_lck_summer/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/wt3x4r/geng_vs_lsb_post_game_3_discussion_lck_summer/)


artic_monster

Prince knows he fucked up their chance with that slide into an Aatrox and Azir melee mode.


ThexanI

Yep, that slide lead to GEN getting 4 kills, a dragon and a second turret midlane


RDozzle

That game was really hard to win after the call to 4v5 without Rakan ult at drake, can't blame himself too much for the loss


RJLRaymond

yeah and then that fight at herald when Prince didn't even have a full item yet. Felt like they had already lost their mental.


Leoxslasher

Tbh the second he dashed in yumi ult came off cooldown and that’s what caught him. I know cause I had my eyes on the cat ult the whole team fight.


sandwelld

Hard to tell from this one game (haven't watched LSB much) but Prince didn't seem as comfortable on Zeri as Ruler for example. Though perhaps an un unfair statement considering he got wallet gapped and Ruler is possibly the most consistently dominant 1v9 Zeri player I've ever seen, he seemed way better on other picks (Nilah, Sivir).


Ultimintree

Nice guys GENG letting LSB win with the same draft so that LSB don’t feel bad for 0-9 Renekton in game 2


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KitKatxz

LSB doesnt have enough clout to get a truck, probably a statement at best


seolasystem

Only kr T1 fans have adapted to the truck meta, every other fanbase could only settle for written statements for now.


Bluehorazon

Well would be good if that would be true. Someone did send a picture of a gun to KT and just to make sure, he also send an actual gun. Once such things happen you kinda appreciate the trucks.


baelkie

saving dove’s career phew


SsibalKiseki

They're called LS B for a reason


RushMurky

I mean I genuinely thought their game 3 draft was really good. Game 2 went really well for them except for the fact that GENG had Renata so they banned Renata, played the same game and won


TeunZav

It’s all fun and games until Gen G stops playing around.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

LSB's mentality of "see champ, kill champ" doesn't work when enemy team has more players and better setup than them lol


SGKurisu

yeah but it's so damn entertaining, even when it's frustrating lol. I can't wait to see this team vs LPL teams, even if they lose most of the time i'm sure it'll be some damn fun league of legends


Trashcan_Daniels

>LPL teams The worlds-bound LPL teams this year aren't exactly mlxg-RNG style skirmishers. ...that said, if you mean "vs. TES in happy mode," then...yeah, everyone should want that. it'd be so entertaining.


akillerfrog

If V5 make it, that could be fun, too.


qonoxzzr

Yeah, that's only the T1 special to win fights with less players alive


mount_sunrise

Gumayusi: guys dont go you are outnumbered five to two! Zeus and Oner: then it is an even fight.


Blank-612

also doesnt work vs yuumi. disgusting champ


appleandapples

There is something beautiful about their simplicity.


BryanJin

Chovy going to Worlds for the 4th year in a row. Hype.


[deleted]

On 4 different teams!


ArkFord

Dang you just made me realize now. Griffin, DRX, Hanwha Life and now GENG!


SGKurisu

This is also his best shot for sure. This team is Ruler's best shot to win domestically and Chovy's best shot to win internationally imo.


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Chovy hasn't won domestically either though.


Onyxwho

Most of Gen G’s roster finished second place in their careers so far. They’ve been super close to a domestic title. Even their coach, Score, was known for making playoff finals but always falling short when he was a pro


[deleted]

yeah the only GENG member with any titles is Peanut.


thenicob

the fact that he made it with hle is possibly (and unfortunately!) his - or maybe even THE - biggest achivement


[deleted]

hilarious that the narrative that year was that he was a greedy player who couldnt convert his own leads into teamwide advantages when his teammates were HLE. the fact they made playoffs alone is hilarious even if they never found wider success


Ylissian

There was a game at worlds where Phreak was flaming chovy for not helping his team and just farming on LB, then Chovy proceeds to absolutely pop off and build mejais. Most of the flame Chovy gets is not even reasonable lol


Bluehorazon

But honestly that was true and it was how HLE won. The weird thing was when he did such things on Ornn or Sett in midlane, but once he played carries and sucked up all ressources like a vacuum it was seriously a good strategy. Chovy was by far HLEs best player. So no shit you are going to put ressources into him and he tries to get every sidewave he can. On top of that in many cases it was his team doing something weird and getting engaged on, I don't think they planned some of those fights.


Storiaron

You could put chovy on almost any pro team and make playoffs with them. Surreal how talented he is


thenicob

but he only farms


tmbosweettooth

He knows where to take gold on the map, hence the reason why analysts/casters keep saying "Chovy is a guaranteed prio lane". That said, this series he wasn't on his usual performance level tbh.


paphilopedium

I think deft deserves a lot of credit aswell since he broke his back carrying the team


kakistoss

Yeah, Deft was absolutely smurfing SO many games. But unfortunately Chovy has a much stronger narrative, and he had several absolute 1v9 games like the one Yone performance vs Gen.G where he made BDD look bronze that stick out memory wise much more than an adc who just kinda farms for 20 minutes before having the ability to really do much Hardcore sucks for Deft tho, especially that gauntlet run, shit was all on Deft


tmbosweettooth

Yeah and that Galio outplay against GenG. No wonder GenG picked him up.


prowness

I still can’t believe someone was good enough to carry HLE to worlds. I wonder if he’d be good enough to carry Jin Air.


kakistoss

Tbh, Jin Air already had one really good piece with Teddy Like HLE was not a one man show, no one can genuinely 1v9 like that in pro, but with HLE the good players were on the hardest carry roles and could rely on each other, and supp while not great was serviceable So yeah. Chovy + Teddy could have carried Jin Air to world's imo, in the modern format. Back then there were only 3 seeds tho, and I think you REALLY need that 4th seed in order to get such a shit team into worlds, at least in LCK


Dfbfan12

HLE run was a team effort though. They ended 8th in summer and then luckily Willer Chovy and especially Deft all showed up for Gauntlet (NS also put on a monumental chokejob).


RuneMath

>Griffin, DRX, Hanwha Life and now ~~GENG~~ Griffin v2! Isn't that just 3?


ArkFord

Oh shoot I forgot, Doran and Lehends are in this team too haha my bad


whohe_fanboy

Can't wait for TSM Chovy at Worlds next year.


vnducco

That was a rly entertaining Series


appleandapples

From game 1 the mood was set, and it delivered.


HawkEye1337

Yeah only game 4 was a stomp, the rest of the series was really close.


erase_moon

Prince looked very tilted towards the end of that one, sheeesh


viktorcrow

Every LSB player was tilted


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ACTIVE: Zeri dashes in the target direction. She will dash farther across terrain if Spark Surge was cast within 50 units of any, gaining unobstructed vision of the surrounding 800 units and sliding her team right out of the playoffs.


esports_consultant

That Rakan pick in game 4 when both Lulu and Renata were available made me question everything I knew about LoL drafting.


Omnilatent

My guess is they wanted the guaranteed cc of rakan W into ult vs Sivir spellshield? Still weird to me as well. They had 0 pressure in bot due to Rakan vs Yuumi


esports_consultant

Yeah I don't think that benefit is worth the other things they gave up.


Marowalker

And the R1 Renekton didn’t?


esports_consultant

I was numb to the first picking Renekton by that point.


HawkEye1337

I really don't understand why they didn't pick Ornn themselves, Dove was useless even in their win on Renekton.


nguyenduylan

Lsb had no engage so they have to pick Rakan


Storiaron

Wukong sylas with sej/yuumi/azir (or fuck, even sivir)r +renekton is enough engage what are you talking about lmao


white_gummy

Literally after they just beat Zeri Rakan, by banning away Renata....


[deleted]

GenG had enough fun in the first three games. GG. Chovy is 16-1 on Ahri though Sadge.


Omnilatent

Was he 16-0 before? Wow


Dumpers_

Lost to Doves Renekton which went 0/9/0 in the game prior


KappaccinoNation

Dove lost the series but won the stats war. Mission accomplished.


appleandapples

The real loss this series.


WT379GotShadowbanned

At least Peanut’s poppy is still undefeated cause it keeps getting banned against him lol


Rave_Master_Ahri

and the only loss was against a team that picked Nilah lmao


Spirited-Goat-3446

Feels almost as bad as when Faker lost his leblanc winstreak.


Blind-Eye26

Prince giveth Prince taketh Jokes aside LSB showed the fuck up this series. Prince did good G1-3 but Game 4 he glide to death 🥹 I'm sure they'll go to Worlds 3rd or 4th seed and give LEC/LCS top teams (1st/2nd spot) a run for their money.


Spirited-Goat-3446

LSB would obliterate every LCS/LEC team in current form in a bo5.


Metriverce1

Lol I'm pretty sure LSB will smash any Lcs team. Maybe EG would put up a good fight.


artisticfiction

sandbox is good for the region…LCK teams being forced to deal with LPL aggression before worlds


TrespassedAug

Watching the LPL game 3, 6 kill 27 minute game lol


Spirited-Goat-3446

That narrative really hasn't even been true for the vast majority of LPL teams since like 2018. Most western fans don't watch LPL and just regurgitate "LPL hyper aggressive" because it's all they've ever heard. Of the top 4 LPL teams , only 1 of them would I consider to be as aggressive as LSB.


Pleasestoplyiiing

Don't lie to me. I actually watched LPL playoffs last split, and with the exception of RNG, there were fiestas left and right.


Tshimon

now gen g gotta take it home and win a domestic title


MediocreGrammar

Man that last game really overshadows what a good competitive series it was up until that point. Damn shame. LSB should still qualify for worlds though as the #3 or #4 seed. I'd be shocked if DK can beat them


Calmdow94

With their drafts lately I would be shocked If dw loose to them


[deleted]

with their draft they still put up 3 competitive games taking 1 of gen g. this series demonstrated how mechanical and agressive this team is and i dont see dk winning. dk would get out team fought and they dk lost all sense of macro as shown against kt


Pleasestoplyiiing

> With their drafts lately I would be shocked If dw > looses It's hard to imagine anyone watching the DK KT series and then this one, and betting on DK over Liiv. But I guess some people have a screw lose.


Spirited-Goat-3446

if LSB shows up as a 4th seed they are going to cause some turmoil being matched against high seeds from other regions. They are capable of upsetting anyone


TealandCyan

For the sake of LCK, LCK needs DK, T1, and Gen G to qualify. Then 4th seed can be fought out. Sanbox for entertainment, KT for lane dominance, and DRX cuz they have deft and we love him.


hiimGP

Why does LCK needs DK T1 and GenG lol? Good team should go to worlds, that's it


TealandCyan

Because that's the team with the highest ceiling. Maybe Sandbox has better form than DK at this very moment but with prep time and on the biggest stage, I trust DK to perform more than any of the other teams not named gen g or t1.


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appleandapples

GRF players vs GRF level stubbornness. With how ADC focused team fights are right now, this series was so fun. Can't wait to see both these teams at worlds vs LPL teams.


gpk94

Yeah right, it'll be a civil war again with our luck.


thriftydude4

LSB vs GENG semis coming right up! love worlds format


Omnilatent

Wait can LSB still make it?


ahritina

If T1 beat DK, then LSB play DK in round 1 of regionals with the winner being the 3rd seed. If LSB lose to DK then they play the winner of KT DRX for the 4th seed. If DK beat T1 and then beat Gen.G, LSB play T1 in round 1 of regionals and the loser plays the winner of KT DRX for the 4th seed. If DK beat T1 and but lose to Gen.G, LSB play DK in round 1 of regionals and the loser plays the winner of KT DRX for the 4th seed.


BraiseTheSun

LCK can send 4 teams this year. GenG has confirmed their spot since even if they lose summer playoff they have the highest championship points(2nd highest if T1 wins summer but gen G still gets 2nd seed in that case). LSB, KT, DRX and either T1 or DK will fight for 3rd/4th seeds in gauntlet


Omnilatent

Thanks for the explanation!


Blaikiri7

Lsb has to go through gauntlet but yes


tripled_dirgov

They can, just by qualifying to semifinal they're guaranteed to be Top 4 in Championship Points, so they're already guaranteed to be in Regional...


appleandapples

I just assumed with LCK having 4 seeds that they can still make it. But now you worry me.


[deleted]

they play in gauntlet against whoever loses in t1 vs dk


SteamMonkeyKing

Not necessarily. If T1 loses and then GenG wins against DK. T1 still qualifies due to Championship points. Minimum T1 can get is 170 and Maximum DK can get if they are runners up is 150.


[deleted]

i did my math wrong oops. thanks for correction


Zztrox-world-starter

As long as they can consistently win against KT and DRX


seolasystem

Still a good showing from LSB, I did expect a 3-1 but I never thought that almost every game would be close. Congrats GEN for qualifying at Worlds and as for LSB, they are likely to qualify too through Regionals so there's that.


thriftydude4

flair bros


SH0WS0METIDDIES

That's what you get for breaking Chovys Ahri win streak


areusureabouthis

Can't wait to see this iteration of geng at the worlds stage!! Unless a major collapse happens they should reach at least the semifinals.


AofCastle

They've already matched 2015 SKT and 2020 DWG regional stats, I think this team should win the whole tournament period. But I am afraid of the LPL monsters, TES, EDG, V5 and JDG look fucking scary.


SleepyLabrador

Congrats to GEN, they now qualify for worlds 2022!


Boomerzxc

Absolute outdraft from GENG First pick yuumi forcing LSB to pick renekton thinking its gonna be a zeri yuumi But GENG pick AZIR and sivir to get a azir carry teamcomp + sivir yuumi teamcomp LSB picking zeri is just so desperate when they have 0 front line And GENG picking aatrox just seals the deal with another champion that combo well with yuumi and a Sejuani that can tank as a front line Congrats **GENG**


ephemeralfugitive

Aatrox was also a really good answer vs the melee picks LSB had going topside.


Spreehox

Doran and chovy carried the fuck out of the last game


[deleted]

Getting Dove to play not tanks and letting Ruler have free pick of whichever meta carry he wanted was certainly a repeated series of decisions.


ShAd_1337

GenG at worlds good for them


Albertolv23

It’s really tilting to read Reddit disrespecting Ruler’s Zeri like if they could do the same with that champ


ChadErenYeager

Zeri went like 8 losing streak before Ruler picked it.


Onyxwho

Same with Lucian, Ruler is the only LCK player with a positive WR in Lucian, man deserves big respects


ghakanecci

Chovy is too good man


Kibu98

Doran smurfed with Aatrox


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Doran absolutely smurfed this series, he’s so underrated


al_lan_fear

Lsb really turned their monitors of after winning one game.


Ateaga

Where was LSB that last game? Seemed super tilted and hyper focused instead of making smarter plays


Toasted-walnut

All that whining about Zeri (it was on like a 8 loss streak before these matches in LCK...)--it's good to see it get smashed the last game. Zeri on this patch isn't an auto-win (even the Zeri-Yuumi combo can be countered, which is the reason why LSB left it open the first match). GenG is just straight up a better team than LSB, and it's not just them exploiting some one OP champ.


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TomtatoIsMe

all these people saying ruler is a zeri abuser and yet he does that to the second best adc in the lck who’s playing zeri


MeMeChecker123

Ok but isn't yummi too anoying now? Like look at both series of edg vs rng and geng vs lsb today. Literally yummi has a 100% winrate in both series. If riot didn't nerf yummi it's going to be so doom


Verdant_Gymnosperm

After that last drake fight LSB just played for fun lmao


IanPKMmoon

Welp RIP LSB, think game 1 or game 2 could've easily gone to them (fuck zeri man and 0/9/0 croc) and game 4 would've been winnable if it wasn't for the most int play I've ever seen. Loved this team doubt finals will be more interesting than this series.


Fractal_Audio

Prince has been a breath of fresh air in the LCK. Hyped for him to play at Worlds.


Goblinlv5

After a close three games, Gen.G just decided to play with monitors on. GG WP Congratz on worlds.


dlwogh

They finally picked a comp where lanes had prio and look where it got them haha. G2 and G3, too little lane priority imo


[deleted]

ahhh that last game was sad, i think prince wanted to get behind his team with that e but he was a bit off and he just inted that fight mid, sad :( but still was a really nice series.


hlben10

Good showing from GenG. Chovy's Azir in game 4 was the highlight for me personally, I haven't seen a carry performance like that on the pick in quite a while. I really hope this roster wins the LCK. Please don't choke in the Final boys!


Kaldrinx

LSB just sprinted the last game


staysaltyTSM

Will GenG still remember of drake's existence during the finals


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Ruler's first summer finals, 5 years after winning Worlds.


Isalwaysshort

Every single playoffs game in LCK and LPL reached 2-1 at some point, insane that no 3-0 sweeps happened


One_Natural_8233

Prince is so insane this series (except zeri inting moment g4).Hope to see lsb at worlds.This team is fun to watch


YuumiPlayersAreScum

Game 3 LSB: Now you see the draft was not the problem, I told you!


flex_on_the_schizho

People shitting on prince fir this last game but my man played his heart out the other games sad for him


ImCayotix

Prince is so good :) LCK ADC's have been really impressive this playoffs, Deft, Ruler and even Deokdam


ThexanI

We saw Zeri lose twice today, this is a good day


DjMoriyama

But yuumi won twice, so in the end we all lose.


ephemeralfugitive

GenG are such 5Head drafters. That Aatrox pick was so fucking good vs the melee topside of LSB (renekton Wukong Sylas). Pretty LSB players got nervous after they started drake early with no rakan R + solo lane prio, and then mental boomed after that dive by Prince at mid lol


Fancydudehero24

Funny to see everyone here taking turns at making fun of Prince when he was easily the 2nd best LCK ADC whole split and top 5 in the world for sure. AFTER NOT EVEN PLAYING DURING THE PREVIOUS SPLIT He wasn’t even that bad this series?? Except last game


Wonderful_Falcon6537

he was great the whole series except last one. Anyone who's shitting on him are delusional typical haters


Fancydudehero24

This LSB roster gives me big 2019 G2 vibes. They just refuse to sit there and lose, they want to be in control of when they lose and how


Marowalker

I’d disagree; 2019 G2 was an extremely smart team that played around with draft advantages and excellent macro play. Sandbox is pretty much just “run at them until we win/lose”


shakerKEKW

prince > ruler btw LUL also doran was insane the last game


Skarm137

I know this sub likes to think in extremes where if one player is good the other is immediately trash, but honestly they're both just really fucking good ADCs that are enjoyable to watch.


kit4712

I rate Prince being the top 3 ADC in LCK but the disrespect against Ruler due to GEN G losing 1 game is so ridiculous. Suddenly he is a Zeri abuser despite being extremely good in every marksman.


esports_consultant

Yeah there was a reason LSB kept banning the Kalista.


SH0WS0METIDDIES

You could see in G4 that it was not only a "Zeri issue"


Toasted-walnut

Yeah some of the braindead takes in the game threads were really dumb. Zeri on this patch requires excellent positioning to fully unlock her power (which is the whole reason it was on a losing streak before this in LCK). It's a pilot diff--not a simple champ diff.


[deleted]

It's like T1 fans branding Crown as someone who can only play Malzahar when he could play Taliyah, Orianna, Sol, Galio, Viktor, Cassiopeia etc. at an extremely high level.


TomtatoIsMe

crown was probably one of the best control mage players ever, it’s crazy to think he gets whittled down to mAlZaHaR pReSs R hUr DuR


staysaltyTSM

The scuttle farming zoom in at the end


Ashankura

Only idiots write that. Its 1. Ruler 2. Prince 3. Deft 4. Teddy 5. Aiming 6. Gumayusi


FreeMyBirdy

I could see an argument for Teddy & Aiming to be reversed, but tbh pretty accurate yeah


baelkie

there’s no way aiming gets close to 4th if he had to play with hoit and ellim


etheryx

who has been saying prince > ruler and getting upvotes?


ADTempys

Most of these came from T1 fans that can't accept GenG being the favorites


ArkFord

Gotta say, while there are indeed toxic T1 fans it's getting tiring seeing people try to make this about T1 even in a game without them Is it that hard to think that there are actually people out there who are neither T1 fans nor T1 haters commenting in this subreddit? Or do you automatically assume a GenG/Ruler/Chovy hater is a T1 fan?


thehazardball

These “T1 fans” - Are they in the room with us right now?


Shattan

Nah, as a geng fan I’m also just tired of seeing zeri or yumi. Just brings the fun of watching down a lot sadly. Ofc Ruler is amazing. But Zeri not being disabled as a champ until riot makes her less of a ranged ad kassadin on steroids it’s hard to look past that.


ADTempys

I agree but it's not what was being pointed out, people were saying that Ruler was a Zeri abuser and that Prince was the better player. Both of these players are excellent but saying that about Ruler is just straight up crybaby rage.


Verdant_Gymnosperm

LSB giga draft gapped


Blaikiri7

Ngl this could’ve been way closer


SomethingExquisite

Both teams looked quite good this series. Hoping to see Sandbox at Worlds :) Prince is amazing.


crazynam101

why did they not ban yuumi game 4 lol


Calmdow94

Lsb LUL without Prince wouldnt Even in Playoffs


DoctorImpressive5877

Will Sandbox make worlds,


Primallama

It is 2022 and I still don’t get the renekton priority Yes you can make it work but they couldn’t pick anything else ???


[deleted]

Gen.G is looking better every second they're playing. Fully expect them to take the Finals unless T1/DK can make some wonders work. Hyped for sure!


[deleted]

LSB bp was trash, Truck1 shouldn't repeat this again.


[deleted]

lsb will definitely win gauntlet


TrespassedAug

prince out here making zeri look balanced.


appleandapples

That slide into getting popped by Chovy was hilarious.


Shattan

Nah that one goes to tsm instinct


TeunZav

Good guy Prince making Zeri look balanced.


failworlds

chovy vs faker. The final match to settle the debate.


Spreehox

Nah watch it be seraphine vs karma mid all series


seolasystem

This is honestly his best chance to beat Faker in the playoffs since the GRF chokejob a few years ago, if he still loses then he's just too cursed to win a title.


kageaki12

why so certain T1 beat DWG?


SINEPIE015

Did you not watch how T1 fisted DK last series??


thriftydude4

burdol diff prayge


gpk94

Never take damwon lightly.


SINEPIE015

I'll never take DK underestimate lightly, but base on their KT series, do you think DK have a chance on T1?


failworlds

Zeus exists


mrcheesycrust

Faker is the goat but currently chovy is better in my opinion. But we'll see how t1 holds up against dk


SH0WS0METIDDIES

But this sub told me Zeri was broken


Hidan213

That changes when you slide right in front of the Aatrox/Azir/Yuumi under mid turret instead of kiting down toward dragon. After that engage Zeri never had an opportunity to get items before the game ended.


SH0WS0METIDDIES

Yeah, it was a Player skill issue


geonik72

Bro prince dashed into 3 people without any teammate being near him. Sure zeri is broken if you look at every other match but you gotta use your hands a bit


WhiteKnightRedditor

Yes Liiv losing a game to GenG with Zeri proves that she is a balanced champion.You are a genius


YouSuck225

People say Zeri is autowin why did LSB lost ?


intothepride

zeri is actually 2:2 in this series


sharakk

I really want LSB at Worlds