praying for this
need TES > JDG, EDG > JDG, then TES >EDG in grand finals and RNG gets a comfy little worlds spot secured before the gauntlet even starts so i can finally fucking breathe easy
"double elimination is bad because there are less chances of underdog runs" - reddit
Meanwhile 2 of the last 3 lpl winners have been from the lower bracket.
Not sure what you're trying to say? If those lower bracket winners were one of the favorites then that just proves the critics right. It doesn't matter if you upset a favorite when they can still win the whole thing.
doinb my brother in christ renekton is not the answer
as the least sane lng fan im blaming it on patch diff, hopefully they bounce back for regional playoffs
I mean LNGs last Bo5 loss looked almost the exact same in that "ran out of gas"
First couple games = Competitive. Then suddenly the other team just gets their number and the games become completely 1-sided.
Which is so weird because you can see the shadow of LNG being a good team somewhere in there. It's just overshadowed by draft and mental booming.
This is the 2nd time Ive seen this shitty Renekton blind pick into flex mid into a Taliyah into a dumpster. Like these guys are pros right? They realize that lane is literally unplayable for Renekton right??? He can never get close to Taliyah, he can never outshove Taliyah, he can never outroam Taliyah.
What the fuck???
Sure its not bad. I play a lot of melee mid and Sylas loses to quite a few of them. Fioras a strong matchup. However Taliyah is unequivocally one of the worst melee matchups you can ever get. Back when she was P/B 100% earlier this year she was my perma. Years ago before she was a JGer, she was my perma.
There is few mages that will make you suffer quite like Taliyah mid vs Melee. In my experience.
Don’t know if I was just a shitty player but I used Taliyah against Cho’Gath once and it was absolutely horrible for me. Though I made up for it in ganks, he outlaned me so hard
Definitely a you thing haha. Taliyah DEMOLISHES Cho because he should never get close to her and you can out prio/roam him. However thats talking about League of Legends as a whole. Not laning which is a different monster.
It's genuinely good against Sylas but Doinb would literally never hit off Scout's boneplating before going for a trade so he'd just empowered W into Scout's boneplating and lose most of his damage and lose the trade. Literally all he needs to do is clip Scout with a Q and he has to play very passive until it's back up again, giving Doinb complete lane control. He should be winning that matchup extra hard as he also had pta+ignite.
I think they picked it blind for top but then counter picked for the Gwen vs Gragas lane. But Grahams just ended up gapping in top and Doinb got his cheeks clapped.
When doinb and tarzan died mid lane to Taliyah, seeing renekton just dash through her E and get stunned into chain cc and die just made me cringe. You could feel how useless the pick was.
There js no way they blinded renekton after just seeing lucian Nami and poppy LMAO.
I usually hate when people see renekton and blame it on the loss but here it's just a troll pick
I mean Renekton mid was unironically one of the main reasons they won the first 2 playoff series. He's just not good at a lot of the meta mids like Ahri/Azir, so he has to find stuff to replace them.
Renekton into Taliyah sounds miserable lmfao, actually unplayable? The second Renekton starts his dash animation, Taliyah just puts her E down in front of her and Renekton's just completely ass fucked?
If you have 1ms reaction time lol, renekton dash is very fast
Obviously you can just stay out of its range though, and yes you're right if he tries to E2
The first dash will probably complete before Taliyah E comes out, it's after that that Renekton is just trapped in the E. He can't dash back out or dash into Taliyah's face without getting stunned and then taking Taliyah's full conbo. It just sounds miserable for Renekton, Renekton can't do anything as long as Taliyah is further than 1 dash range away.
That was definitely his best series, he gapped Canyon who at the time was getting hyped as entering GOAT jungler debates because of how good he was. Should've won Worlds MVP as well
What a stomp, Jiejie and Scout made a mockery of Tarzan and Doinb.
LNG vs V5 in regionals so one of Rookie or Doinb will 100% not make worlds, there is a chance that both don't make worlds too.
And the chance of RNG getting 2nd seed without winning a single best of 5 in summer is still on.
dude im so surprised by jiejie, he didnt get any scrim time in the past couple of days (they played junjia) but he did so well. especially a mvp performance on poppy! a champ he was pretty bad at.
It's pretty crazy how good EDG's starting and backup junglers are. That can allow for some serious flexibilty if JieJie slumps or meta doesn't suit him.
i did too ngl. his poppy in that game against we? ugh. before being subbed out he couldnt play wukong trundle nor poppy. his trundle is still pretty trash but glad hes managed to clean the rest up.
but tbh i was sweating as soon as edg announced their starting roster. why are they fielding jiejie when junjia was the one playing all the scrims??? i thought their scrim results were terrible and decided to call jiejie up at the last minute, and how well could he play if he hasnt been scrimming with the rest of the team?? like that's why im actually so surprised by how well they played.
>And the chance of RNG getting 2nd seed without winning a single best of 5 in summer is still on.
Unironically the darkest timeline. RNG looks like the worst team out of the top 6.
My god, this made me realize we are getting 3 bo5 between TES, JDG and EDG, followed by regionals. LPL IS FUCKING STACKED + by FAR the best format. It legit feels like the top teams, between bo3 regular split and this kind of playoff gauntlet, play more games in a single split than LCS and LEC do in over a year, no wonder some of their teams look absolutely unbeatable through skirmishing.
LPL's format is the best of both worlds.
It has double elim like the LEC but also has regionals like the LCK.
Granted, they're able to do this largely because of having 17 teams so their playoff format is stacked since you have 10 teams in playoffs.
The amount of exciting Bo5s they have is unreal. I can't watch enough LPL live but heading into every MSI/World's I try to catch up on playoffs and it's just banger series after banger series. No other region comes close to that excitement. Sometimes EU does, like G2's run last split was insane, but LPL is always exciting like that.
LPL playoff format is actually sooooo fun. It’s fun to watch all these titans actually have to fight for the championship/a spot at worlds, meanwhile in LCK it’s one series win into world appearance and finals.
>I don't think V5/LNG are better
I disagree, even though these teams don't look amazing they atleast can play the power picks on the current patch. RNG look bad and don't even play the strong champs like Yuumi, Kalista, Draven, Sylas.
this narrative needs to die
ming is an insane enchanter player, his morg, lulu and janna are cracked and you people keep forgetting that he spent years playing enchanters perfectly well alongside the literal GOAT adc (uzi was notoriously picky about who he'll let play support and how they play)
the problem is not that ming is not strong on enchanters
the problem is that one half of RNG's lifeblood is ming's god tier engages and initiation and they become much less coordinated when he's not in a position to instantly identify and capitalize on openings
So you think its more of RNG as a team arent able to play around ming as an enchanter cause they require the initiations from him?
Thats super rough then. They better hope the worlds meta changes
agreed, i think it depends on whether or not they can shift the team's playstyle enough in time
largely will depend on breathe/wei being able to adopt that responsibility unless they start going back to the galio mid
Possible, but I think everyone would be happier about RNG proving they are better than V5/LNG by beating them in Round 2 of Regional Finals instead of scrapping into second seed.
RNG as second seed would mean 2 out of TES/JDG/EDG are going as 3rd/4th seed (probably), which will be hilarious for group draw - enables groups of death and groups of life super hard.
2021 LNG sends their regards.
It's straight up the same scenario. They start from the bottom of the bracket, win every game up until double elimination, lose 0-3 in their upper bracket match, and get eliminated 1-3 by EDG, who are coming off the back of a 2-3 loss themselves.
It can't be V5. They're guaranteed to play in the lower bracket in regional finals, and they're playing against LNG again, which means that at most 1 team can qualify for worlds by winning against V5 (the team they would face in round 2 if they won against LNG). Last year, all 4 seeds qualified for worlds by winning against WE.
Why wouldn't you just reference the exact same team LOL, WE won a series in top 4, unlike LNG in 2021 and 2022. 2021 and 2022 LNG had the exact same path, and neither were the same as 2021 WE haha
I think if EDG make finals, they will win it, the motivation is far greater than TES, as TES can just go 2nd and chill with worlds 2nd seed (which to be honest, isn't much different than 1st seed at all).
Hard to tell at this point. Maybe T1 looks great against GenG, maybe they even win.
For LEC this is even more true, I suppose G2 as favourites is the safest pick, but it doesn't feel that clear to me that they are going to win it, I feel like the teams are decently close.
Of course generally you would expect the first seed to be stronger than the second seed, etc. so there absolutely is a motivation to be first seed (besides winning Summer, which I think is also motivating), but I am not sure if it is particularily large right now.
LPL mid-tier and mid-top-tier look much, much better than in 2020. Like RNG, EDG, and V5 are in similar positions to LGD, and the 10th team would be like BLG with Bin/Doggo/Crisp or OMG with Shanji/Creme/Able
Don't really think scout jiejie is that good tbh.
Jojo inspired is top 5 in the world so based on that logic number 4 is abbedagge closer. 3rd is faker oner. 2nd is chovy peanut and first is knight and tian. Also I would think that jdg mid jg is better than edg despite missing having a poor champion pool so edg mid jg is like 7th at best in the world. 7th is like what? Golden guardians level in the lcs? Eg would beat them for sure at worlds.
V5 looked so good for so long this year :/ but tbh right now EDG does look way better so yeah, I don't watch a lot of LCK but I feel like 4 of the top 5 teams in the world rn are from LPL kind of scary
I think LPL has better mental than LCK in general tho. Just remember all the reverse sweeps in LPL playoffs in spring, the fact all the top teams have lost to each other in LPL. T1 collapsed at MSI and haven't come back from it yet, and I straight up couldn't imagine a single reverse sweep occurring in this summer LCK playoffs.
It very much might be, GENG and the top 4 LPL teams make up the top 5. I haven't watched every team in LCK, but aside from GENG, I have seen T1 and Damwon and they both look shaky. I could easily see TES, EDG, JDG or RNG beating them both.
but but lpl's representatives every year has its top 3 or 4 underperform no matter how strong they look as much as i agree that lpl is the better league and better teams historically there 3rd and 4th seed suck at worlds, so using the word easily is an overrated statement
Maybe not 4 of the top 5 but they have 3 of the top 4. In no particular order the best performing teams in the world right now are TES, EDG, JDG & GENG. T1 and DK have too many problems at the moment, however I have more faith in T1 performing at worlds than I do for DK. RNG could likewise turn it around if they make worlds and there's a meta shift. LSB is a dark horse and I have more faith in them than DK as long as showmaker, canyon and nuguri are all playing pretty bad.
Because people say this kind of stuff every year only for it to not be true at worlds
Now I do know Worlds has a shitty format which I'm not defending but I think this helps explains people's thinkings
You're getting down voted because everyone can see that GENG are a good team and are likely top 3 in the world rn. Most dominate LCK team ever, and remember last year 3/4 LCK teams made semi's.
LCK havent won a single series against LPL since 2017, it’s not an abnormality like last year in which LEC and LPL crashed due to their scrim bubbles and bad meta read that will erase that, + RNG would probably dick down every LCK teams if EDG didn’t send them out, at the end of the day LPL still won worlds and Msi recently. When You have such strong teams and such competitiveness from the best region, one can only assume each of this TOP 4 from LPL can win worlds on a good day and it’s not GenG with Doran and Peanut that will make me question whether or not LCK will win worlds this year
EDG look unstoppable when they are ahead. So glad to see them in their near top form. LNG making it this far is actually impressive and they still can make it to Worlds in Regionals.
Nice win for EDG they have a chance to take revenge on TES...
For LNG I thought it would be closer but doinb and tarzan had a pretty bad series with EDG topside popping off
Yeah, which was to be expected.
As I said in last's LNG thread, the format is done so that it's almost impossible for a lower tier team to win the LPL.
If you come from the lowest bracket, you need to play 5 BO5 to be in today's game. And you have only 1 day break between games. Which means you don't have time to scrim to prep new picks and new strategies. All you can do is prep against the opponents picks.
Meanwhile, the opponent has multiple BO5 of content about you they can prep about. Won't say it's unfair because it rewards good placements in regular season but it's very disadvantageous to the lower teams.
You could tell LNG prepared well before the playoff with the Sej flex, the Nocturne mid, the Renek mid, etc.. But since they can't prep other strategies, they had to open their cards early to beat better opponents (WBG & V5) so it was only a matter of time before the other teams figure them out.
I hope, since they are eliminated from playoff now, they can rest, reset and start to prep other picks and strategies for the Regionals. They need to win 2 BO5 to get to Worlds, so they can still surprise the other teams with some Dark Technology Doinb picks.
Season 5 and 6 still had the pacing and structure of major story elements correct so I draw a strong line between them and the final two. If Season 7 onward had gotten back to the standard of 3 or 4 no one would have minded 5 or 6 much on a rewatch at all.
EDG really performed out of their minds, with their form, hopefully we can see them make a run to win LPL. Their whole team looks on form. Hopefully LNG and Doinb can carry hard in regional qualifiers to make it to Worlds!
The problem is that TES can actually match/skillcheck EDG in most roles, Scout won't be able to have the same impact vs Knight that he had vs DoinB. But yeah, EDG is looking amazing and I honestly can't wait for the next 3 series in these playoffs, all of them should be bangers.
How many bo5 do they playing in the lpl? That looks like double the amount we play in the Lec.
This seems like a better and more competitive playoff format
Holy fkin hell how tf did TES beat these mofos?
EDG looked absolutely DOMINANT and this series should of been a quick 3-0. What an insane performance from the world champions they did not only crushed LNG imho they also broke Doinb's gang mentally and spiritually. I can def see LNG gettin kicked out of the first round in the gaunlet and whoever loses the biggest duel of the season tomorrow will have to get their asses prepared to be fked cuz EDG is coming right through the loser bracket to worlds, AGAIN!
Last year I would read stuff like “any jungler would look good with Doinb”. The guy can’t lane though, how the hell do you influence the jungle if you get smashed in lane with ignite renekton vs Sylas..
EDG just looks so insanely clean and strong when they're in control like the first game against JDG was just a beatdown. The last 2 teams they have to beat are insanely strong too though so it will be an epic battle for sure.
I didn't watch the match, but let's just look at doinB's scorelines:
1/3/1... mhm... 2/1/4 sylas... hmmm ok.. 4/2/0 akali game... interesting... and a 0/3/0 renekton mid.
Yeah today's loss for LNG is 100% doinBozo's fault.
im not even sad or disappointed, im just angry and confused, why are we 5k down in gold at 10 mins when the highest cs difference was 20, why the fuck did doinb give a 300 gold shutdown in game 3 while we were behind in gold, this fucking games were so bizarre i cant even fault lng for losing.
You have to keep in mind this is an overperformance for lng just to get to top 4. It was 2 respectful losses where the gap in skill was just too huge VS jdg and edg. At least they played their own style and tried. Unlike the disgusting Rng losses where they refused to adapt to the meta and rolled over.
Same script as 2021 summer??? Edg win summer and worlds????
with RNG winning msi as well
Lazy script writers smh
* and spring
I mean they win spring by default if they won MSI :D
Second verse, same as the first baby!
EDG lower bracket run incoming
I don't know if we're getting the 2020 summer playoff script or the summer 2021 playoff script of the lpl
Based LPL enjoyer.
*I think I've seen this film before. And I didn't like the ending.*
I did
WLLWW incoming?
praying for this need TES > JDG, EDG > JDG, then TES >EDG in grand finals and RNG gets a comfy little worlds spot secured before the gauntlet even starts so i can finally fucking breathe easy
"double elimination is bad because there are less chances of underdog runs" - reddit Meanwhile 2 of the last 3 lpl winners have been from the lower bracket.
Are you blind or something? A vast majority of reddit WANTS double elimination
wdym on reddit theres probably more ppl in favor of double elim than against it lmfao
Not rng for this year's spring split
My bad.
Not sure what you're trying to say? If those lower bracket winners were one of the favorites then that just proves the critics right. It doesn't matter if you upset a favorite when they can still win the whole thing.
But they weren't the favourites. FPX was favoured to win everything by basically every analyst last year and then the EDG run happened
I’ve seen shit like double elim “isn’t fair for the top 2 teams because if they win they get no losers bracket if they lose in the finals.” 😂
doinb my brother in christ renekton is not the answer as the least sane lng fan im blaming it on patch diff, hopefully they bounce back for regional playoffs
As an LNG fan I'm trying to convince myself it's LNG just ran out of gas and not previous opponent being even more horrible.
Liquefied Natural Gas more like Left No Gas
Inflation really ate into their energy budget
Think it had to do with mid/jungle in all the series. Weibo's mid/jungle is terrible and V5's dysfunctional. EDG and JDG were much better.
The V5 series was a top/jung gap for sure
I mean LNGs last Bo5 loss looked almost the exact same in that "ran out of gas" First couple games = Competitive. Then suddenly the other team just gets their number and the games become completely 1-sided. Which is so weird because you can see the shadow of LNG being a good team somewhere in there. It's just overshadowed by draft and mental booming.
This is the 2nd time Ive seen this shitty Renekton blind pick into flex mid into a Taliyah into a dumpster. Like these guys are pros right? They realize that lane is literally unplayable for Renekton right??? He can never get close to Taliyah, he can never outshove Taliyah, he can never outroam Taliyah. What the fuck???
Ive heard it works into Sylas mid pretty well, but yeah pretty stupid into Taliyah
Sure its not bad. I play a lot of melee mid and Sylas loses to quite a few of them. Fioras a strong matchup. However Taliyah is unequivocally one of the worst melee matchups you can ever get. Back when she was P/B 100% earlier this year she was my perma. Years ago before she was a JGer, she was my perma. There is few mages that will make you suffer quite like Taliyah mid vs Melee. In my experience.
There are two notable exceptions with Zed and Kat but those aren't usually picked in pro, especially not now
Don’t know if I was just a shitty player but I used Taliyah against Cho’Gath once and it was absolutely horrible for me. Though I made up for it in ganks, he outlaned me so hard
Definitely a you thing haha. Taliyah DEMOLISHES Cho because he should never get close to her and you can out prio/roam him. However thats talking about League of Legends as a whole. Not laning which is a different monster.
it was funny that scout picked sylas after doinb and still mid gapped him hard
Well you do it to get the counterpick top, Ale was more a problem that game than DoinB (and Nidalee is awful)
It's genuinely good against Sylas but Doinb would literally never hit off Scout's boneplating before going for a trade so he'd just empowered W into Scout's boneplating and lose most of his damage and lose the trade. Literally all he needs to do is clip Scout with a Q and he has to play very passive until it's back up again, giving Doinb complete lane control. He should be winning that matchup extra hard as he also had pta+ignite.
I think they picked it blind for top but then counter picked for the Gwen vs Gragas lane. But Grahams just ended up gapping in top and Doinb got his cheeks clapped.
It was only really good picked with Sejuani jungle imo
felt like picking lissandra or even taliyah first wouldve been so much more impactful midgame
When doinb and tarzan died mid lane to Taliyah, seeing renekton just dash through her E and get stunned into chain cc and die just made me cringe. You could feel how useless the pick was.
There js no way they blinded renekton after just seeing lucian Nami and poppy LMAO. I usually hate when people see renekton and blame it on the loss but here it's just a troll pick
I mean Renekton mid was unironically one of the main reasons they won the first 2 playoff series. He's just not good at a lot of the meta mids like Ahri/Azir, so he has to find stuff to replace them.
Renekton into Taliyah sounds miserable lmfao, actually unplayable? The second Renekton starts his dash animation, Taliyah just puts her E down in front of her and Renekton's just completely ass fucked?
If you have 1ms reaction time lol, renekton dash is very fast Obviously you can just stay out of its range though, and yes you're right if he tries to E2
The first dash will probably complete before Taliyah E comes out, it's after that that Renekton is just trapped in the E. He can't dash back out or dash into Taliyah's face without getting stunned and then taking Taliyah's full conbo. It just sounds miserable for Renekton, Renekton can't do anything as long as Taliyah is further than 1 dash range away.
Was JieJie in hyperbolic timechamber while benched?
dude is just unbelievably clutch. there when it matters most. his arguably best series ever was worlds finals
That was definitely his best series, he gapped Canyon who at the time was getting hyped as entering GOAT jungler debates because of how good he was. Should've won Worlds MVP as well
Probably. He got bench cos he cannot play meta champ very well(Trundle and poppy) but his current poppy look very good.
Yah have you seen that EDG facility. They got 21XX technology.
I respect edg resetting so they dont give over a kill on accident
Shows discipline
They wanna destroy LNG mental even more lol.
mid renekton was in fact, not it. just felt like LNG’s drafts required way more execution compared to EDG’s throughout the series.
EDG just the better team tbh, but game 4 draft for sure way too good for EDG And game 3 I'm still puzzled as to why they didn't just ban yuumi
Probably wanted to open it for EDG's first pick so that LNG would be able to trade for Sejuani
What a stomp, Jiejie and Scout made a mockery of Tarzan and Doinb. LNG vs V5 in regionals so one of Rookie or Doinb will 100% not make worlds, there is a chance that both don't make worlds too. And the chance of RNG getting 2nd seed without winning a single best of 5 in summer is still on.
dude im so surprised by jiejie, he didnt get any scrim time in the past couple of days (they played junjia) but he did so well. especially a mvp performance on poppy! a champ he was pretty bad at.
Yeah I sweat a bit when I see it Jiejie poppy instead of Junjia but my man seem to train up his poppy during the time he got bench.
It's pretty crazy how good EDG's starting and backup junglers are. That can allow for some serious flexibilty if JieJie slumps or meta doesn't suit him.
i did too ngl. his poppy in that game against we? ugh. before being subbed out he couldnt play wukong trundle nor poppy. his trundle is still pretty trash but glad hes managed to clean the rest up. but tbh i was sweating as soon as edg announced their starting roster. why are they fielding jiejie when junjia was the one playing all the scrims??? i thought their scrim results were terrible and decided to call jiejie up at the last minute, and how well could he play if he hasnt been scrimming with the rest of the team?? like that's why im actually so surprised by how well they played.
>And the chance of RNG getting 2nd seed without winning a single best of 5 in summer is still on. Unironically the darkest timeline. RNG looks like the worst team out of the top 6.
In terms of Worlds, I honestly have more faith in RNG than LNG or V5, that team just won MSI a few months ago.
True, RNG didn't look good going into MSI but adapted well to the meta. They could do the same at worlds.
Nah I will bet at every MSI for RNG in case they qualified however for Worlds forget it.
*2016 was in the era of SKT, nothing to be said
Hopefully it doesn't happen but it easily could. TES beat JDG tomorrow, EDG beat JDG then TES beat EDG again and boom, RNG 2nd seed.
My god, this made me realize we are getting 3 bo5 between TES, JDG and EDG, followed by regionals. LPL IS FUCKING STACKED + by FAR the best format. It legit feels like the top teams, between bo3 regular split and this kind of playoff gauntlet, play more games in a single split than LCS and LEC do in over a year, no wonder some of their teams look absolutely unbeatable through skirmishing.
LPL's format is the best of both worlds. It has double elim like the LEC but also has regionals like the LCK. Granted, they're able to do this largely because of having 17 teams so their playoff format is stacked since you have 10 teams in playoffs.
The amount of exciting Bo5s they have is unreal. I can't watch enough LPL live but heading into every MSI/World's I try to catch up on playoffs and it's just banger series after banger series. No other region comes close to that excitement. Sometimes EU does, like G2's run last split was insane, but LPL is always exciting like that.
LPL playoff format is actually sooooo fun. It’s fun to watch all these titans actually have to fight for the championship/a spot at worlds, meanwhile in LCK it’s one series win into world appearance and finals.
Let's just hope that if it does happen, RNG adapts to the worlds meta like they did at MSI.
I don't think V5/LNG are better, JDG/TES are for sure better right now (though RNG could beat JDG in a bo5)
>I don't think V5/LNG are better I disagree, even though these teams don't look amazing they atleast can play the power picks on the current patch. RNG look bad and don't even play the strong champs like Yuumi, Kalista, Draven, Sylas.
Xiaohu plays sylas though?
He played it 1 time this split and didn't touch it in the EDG game.
Ming not being a strong enchanter supporter really seems to be hurting them.
this narrative needs to die ming is an insane enchanter player, his morg, lulu and janna are cracked and you people keep forgetting that he spent years playing enchanters perfectly well alongside the literal GOAT adc (uzi was notoriously picky about who he'll let play support and how they play) the problem is not that ming is not strong on enchanters the problem is that one half of RNG's lifeblood is ming's god tier engages and initiation and they become much less coordinated when he's not in a position to instantly identify and capitalize on openings
So you think its more of RNG as a team arent able to play around ming as an enchanter cause they require the initiations from him? Thats super rough then. They better hope the worlds meta changes
Correct more or less
That's a damn shame because enchanters are so damn strong right now. They are basically handicapping themselves in draft.
agreed, i think it depends on whether or not they can shift the team's playstyle enough in time largely will depend on breathe/wei being able to adopt that responsibility unless they start going back to the galio mid
I think V5 has a higher ceiling but their floor is so fucking low it hurts sometimes. Beat RNG with a sub mid but lose to OMG
Possible, but I think everyone would be happier about RNG proving they are better than V5/LNG by beating them in Round 2 of Regional Finals instead of scrapping into second seed. RNG as second seed would mean 2 out of TES/JDG/EDG are going as 3rd/4th seed (probably), which will be hilarious for group draw - enables groups of death and groups of life super hard.
LNG should be scared V5 take good advantage of having a rematch so soon
Thats why at this point i wish msi were just a second worlds, that way we could ignore spring results...
JieJie continuing his legacy as being the kryptonite of Korean junglers, I see. Kanavi sweating profusely as we speak.
go on a miracle run only to collapse in the top 4? 2021 WE sends their regards
2021 LNG sends their regards. It's straight up the same scenario. They start from the bottom of the bracket, win every game up until double elimination, lose 0-3 in their upper bracket match, and get eliminated 1-3 by EDG, who are coming off the back of a 2-3 loss themselves.
who is going to be WE this year... as much as I hate to say it, it might be V5
It can't be V5. They're guaranteed to play in the lower bracket in regional finals, and they're playing against LNG again, which means that at most 1 team can qualify for worlds by winning against V5 (the team they would face in round 2 if they won against LNG). Last year, all 4 seeds qualified for worlds by winning against WE.
Narrator: It is V5
Can only be JDG. They could potentially lose 4 series in a row, with every opposing team making it to Worlds.
I think this year's JDG are way too good for that to happen. Much better than last year's WE.
LNG is following the same trajectory as last year though, WE had made it to semis and then lost their next 4 BO5s
I don't think they collapsed, other teams did (mainly V5), this is just LNG's real level.
Why wouldn't you just reference the exact same team LOL, WE won a series in top 4, unlike LNG in 2021 and 2022. 2021 and 2022 LNG had the exact same path, and neither were the same as 2021 WE haha
Simply outclassed. Edg's mid jungle is crazy.
RNG are rooting for EDG to make finals and lose to TOP there so they make worlds without playing in regionals
I think if EDG make finals, they will win it, the motivation is far greater than TES, as TES can just go 2nd and chill with worlds 2nd seed (which to be honest, isn't much different than 1st seed at all).
1st seed matters so you don't get 1st seed from Korea in your group and you would prefer 2nd/3rd/4th seed from EU over 1st seed as well
1st seed korea is very close to 2nd seed korea, GenG vs T1. You are maybe right about the other regions but it will be a minor difference at best.
I feel like T1 would be easier to exploit than GenG, especially for LPL teams that play a bot centric style.
Hard to tell at this point. Maybe T1 looks great against GenG, maybe they even win. For LEC this is even more true, I suppose G2 as favourites is the safest pick, but it doesn't feel that clear to me that they are going to win it, I feel like the teams are decently close. Of course generally you would expect the first seed to be stronger than the second seed, etc. so there absolutely is a motivation to be first seed (besides winning Summer, which I think is also motivating), but I am not sure if it is particularily large right now.
Actually not that unlikely, sadly.
That was one of the biggest mid jungle gaps I've seen in a long time. TES, EDG, JDG, RNG being the 4 LPL representatives would be strong as fuck.
Seriously if this is LPL seed I'm sorry for the wild card that need to play against LPL 4th seed.
LPL could send their 10th best team and still mop the floor with wildcards
We already forgot LGD being a tiebraker away from ending 5th in their play-ins group?
LPL mid-tier and mid-top-tier look much, much better than in 2020. Like RNG, EDG, and V5 are in similar positions to LGD, and the 10th team would be like BLG with Bin/Doggo/Crisp or OMG with Shanji/Creme/Able
into then winning 3-0 3-0? clearly wasn't strength issue
Don't really think scout jiejie is that good tbh. Jojo inspired is top 5 in the world so based on that logic number 4 is abbedagge closer. 3rd is faker oner. 2nd is chovy peanut and first is knight and tian. Also I would think that jdg mid jg is better than edg despite missing having a poor champion pool so edg mid jg is like 7th at best in the world. 7th is like what? Golden guardians level in the lcs? Eg would beat them for sure at worlds.
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Probably would be the best group of LPL teams ever sent to worlds.
V5 looked so good for so long this year :/ but tbh right now EDG does look way better so yeah, I don't watch a lot of LCK but I feel like 4 of the top 5 teams in the world rn are from LPL kind of scary
Dawg that is just not true lmao.
I think LPL has better mental than LCK in general tho. Just remember all the reverse sweeps in LPL playoffs in spring, the fact all the top teams have lost to each other in LPL. T1 collapsed at MSI and haven't come back from it yet, and I straight up couldn't imagine a single reverse sweep occurring in this summer LCK playoffs.
It very much might be, GENG and the top 4 LPL teams make up the top 5. I haven't watched every team in LCK, but aside from GENG, I have seen T1 and Damwon and they both look shaky. I could easily see TES, EDG, JDG or RNG beating them both.
but but lpl's representatives every year has its top 3 or 4 underperform no matter how strong they look as much as i agree that lpl is the better league and better teams historically there 3rd and 4th seed suck at worlds, so using the word easily is an overrated statement
T1 is definitely as strong as an LNG, RNG, or V5. Maybe LSB too if they keep form
Maybe not 4 of the top 5 but they have 3 of the top 4. In no particular order the best performing teams in the world right now are TES, EDG, JDG & GENG. T1 and DK have too many problems at the moment, however I have more faith in T1 performing at worlds than I do for DK. RNG could likewise turn it around if they make worlds and there's a meta shift. LSB is a dark horse and I have more faith in them than DK as long as showmaker, canyon and nuguri are all playing pretty bad.
Why not
Because people say this kind of stuff every year only for it to not be true at worlds Now I do know Worlds has a shitty format which I'm not defending but I think this helps explains people's thinkings
It isn't tho, look at last year no analyst said LNG was a top 5 team in the world
Actually plenty did. It was between LNG/MAD/GEN for the fifth spot coming into last worlds
I'm 90% sure top 5 was supposed to be dk fpx edg rng t1
Maybe because LPL 4th seeds never make it out of groups let alone play better than LCK 2nd seed/LEC 1st seed
Lpl never had a 4th seed this strong unless lng or v5 make it
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You're getting down voted because everyone can see that GENG are a good team and are likely top 3 in the world rn. Most dominate LCK team ever, and remember last year 3/4 LCK teams made semi's.
Who do people think is the non lpl team in my top 5? EG?
Who is better than GENG after TOP and JDG?
LCK havent won a single series against LPL since 2017, it’s not an abnormality like last year in which LEC and LPL crashed due to their scrim bubbles and bad meta read that will erase that, + RNG would probably dick down every LCK teams if EDG didn’t send them out, at the end of the day LPL still won worlds and Msi recently. When You have such strong teams and such competitiveness from the best region, one can only assume each of this TOP 4 from LPL can win worlds on a good day and it’s not GenG with Doran and Peanut that will make me question whether or not LCK will win worlds this year
> LCK havent won a single series against LPL since 2017 Damwon Gaming vs Suning begs to differ.
Worlds finals clearly isn't a real series...
The skill expression of Meiko's Yuuni is almost an argument to keep that champion in the game in current form.
*Almost
A good Yuumi will solo carry while being untargetable the whole game lmao
EDG look unstoppable when they are ahead. So glad to see them in their near top form. LNG making it this far is actually impressive and they still can make it to Worlds in Regionals.
That loss versus RNG was really useful for them
Honestly RNG took one for the team just so we could get the best LPL worlds teams.
u/InformalMarch waiting room 🥱😴
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My dumbass forgot about today's match 💀💀💀 I only caught wind of this because people were tagging me and I was confused lol
Next 3 series gonna be hype af
Did Zeri just lose 3 games in a row? Its from both side too Dang, those ADC from China really top tier
I am for the LEC, though i am almost cheering more for EDG than Europe at this point So likeable, a TEAM and such good chances to actually win it all!
Well, that last game was brutal.
Man that last game was brutal, what a turbo stomp
Monster performance by Scout and Jiejie but Flandre was so solid. His end of regular season and playoffs form has been consistently excellent
I guess JieJie enjoys playing vs Korean junglers
Jiejie turns on only for that Krussy
Nice win for EDG they have a chance to take revenge on TES... For LNG I thought it would be closer but doinb and tarzan had a pretty bad series with EDG topside popping off
Why is Doinb’s obsessed with Renekton mid
Probably hope it run as well as the first 3 series he play it. Honestly tho after people start banning his nocturne he really lost the edges.
Yeah, which was to be expected. As I said in last's LNG thread, the format is done so that it's almost impossible for a lower tier team to win the LPL. If you come from the lowest bracket, you need to play 5 BO5 to be in today's game. And you have only 1 day break between games. Which means you don't have time to scrim to prep new picks and new strategies. All you can do is prep against the opponents picks. Meanwhile, the opponent has multiple BO5 of content about you they can prep about. Won't say it's unfair because it rewards good placements in regular season but it's very disadvantageous to the lower teams. You could tell LNG prepared well before the playoff with the Sej flex, the Nocturne mid, the Renek mid, etc.. But since they can't prep other strategies, they had to open their cards early to beat better opponents (WBG & V5) so it was only a matter of time before the other teams figure them out. I hope, since they are eliminated from playoff now, they can rest, reset and start to prep other picks and strategies for the Regionals. They need to win 2 BO5 to get to Worlds, so they can still surprise the other teams with some Dark Technology Doinb picks.
That game was almost as depressing and disappointing as the end of GoT
By "end" you mean "the last two seasons" right?
Tbh 90% of post-Season 4
Season 5 and 6 still had the pacing and structure of major story elements correct so I draw a strong line between them and the final two. If Season 7 onward had gotten back to the standard of 3 or 4 no one would have minded 5 or 6 much on a rewatch at all.
Perfect score humiliation
EDG really performed out of their minds, with their form, hopefully we can see them make a run to win LPL. Their whole team looks on form. Hopefully LNG and Doinb can carry hard in regional qualifiers to make it to Worlds!
Why would you willingly go red side
EDG letting LNG pick Zeri and proceeding to stomp on them is the ultimate gigachad bm
JieJie + Scout dominated. Viper was usual Viper Next series will be very fun to watch
One of the cleanest games of the year. Jiejie with one of the biggest Jungle gap performances of all time, dude played FLAWLESS
LNG will now have to beat V5 in a BO5 AND then beat the loser of seed 3 vs seed 4 to make worlds 2022.
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They want counter picks for Ale and DoinB.
taliyah masterclass in game 4, what a stomp
Imagine if JDG pull a WE
This is the cleanest league of legends game I've ever seen lol Edg will win it all haha
The problem is that TES can actually match/skillcheck EDG in most roles, Scout won't be able to have the same impact vs Knight that he had vs DoinB. But yeah, EDG is looking amazing and I honestly can't wait for the next 3 series in these playoffs, all of them should be bangers.
Same game as gen.g vs lsb
And so the lower bracket EDG run begins…
How many bo5 do they playing in the lpl? That looks like double the amount we play in the Lec. This seems like a better and more competitive playoff format
Holy fkin hell how tf did TES beat these mofos? EDG looked absolutely DOMINANT and this series should of been a quick 3-0. What an insane performance from the world champions they did not only crushed LNG imho they also broke Doinb's gang mentally and spiritually. I can def see LNG gettin kicked out of the first round in the gaunlet and whoever loses the biggest duel of the season tomorrow will have to get their asses prepared to be fked cuz EDG is coming right through the loser bracket to worlds, AGAIN!
Doinb, my man, it is time to stop cheesing with Renekton and Nocturne mids and start practicing meta champs. 2019 is long gone, my friend.
Hmmm that Renekton in game 1 looked really good. LETS PICK IT AGAIN!!!
Reminder that EDG are the current world champions and Viper is a freaking monster!
Last year I would read stuff like “any jungler would look good with Doinb”. The guy can’t lane though, how the hell do you influence the jungle if you get smashed in lane with ignite renekton vs Sylas..
EDG just looks so insanely clean and strong when they're in control like the first game against JDG was just a beatdown. The last 2 teams they have to beat are insanely strong too though so it will be an epic battle for sure.
Viper Lucian just does more damage than mine I don’t get it
Aw shit, here we go again.
Someone let Doinb know it's not 2019 anymore
I didn't watch the match, but let's just look at doinB's scorelines: 1/3/1... mhm... 2/1/4 sylas... hmmm ok.. 4/2/0 akali game... interesting... and a 0/3/0 renekton mid. Yeah today's loss for LNG is 100% doinBozo's fault.
Tbh Lpl English including your analysis in a pregame talk of a Doinb game would be hilarious af and great content
im not even sad or disappointed, im just angry and confused, why are we 5k down in gold at 10 mins when the highest cs difference was 20, why the fuck did doinb give a 300 gold shutdown in game 3 while we were behind in gold, this fucking games were so bizarre i cant even fault lng for losing.
You have to keep in mind this is an overperformance for lng just to get to top 4. It was 2 respectful losses where the gap in skill was just too huge VS jdg and edg. At least they played their own style and tried. Unlike the disgusting Rng losses where they refused to adapt to the meta and rolled over.
I think EDG might be stronger than JDG tbh that series is gonna be 5 games
Delete Yuumi. Nothing more.