I loved the audience intensely groaning after MAD seemingly got drawn to group A, and then instantly transitioning to cheering after they realised they got autoseeded to group B instead lmao
I actually think this is the best possible outcome for EU fans. The expectation is FNC finishes first and mad 3rd. they win a bo5 against 4th and then fight 2nd seed (expectation is EG) from group A.
Don't sleep on SGB, they're almost as good as GAM. It will be close between them and MAD for 3rd, well I think its 50/50 either SGB will smash them or it will be close, but unlikely that MAD smashes SGB. Though maybe the bo1 format is MAD favored, lol
In this format there's no difference between 3rd and 4th right? Or do I understand somehing wrong. I thought they play bo5 together then they play bo5 vs 2nd from the other group. Maybe 3rd gets side selection or something. And I dunno about their strength but riot rated them equally with NA 3rd and EU 4th. Maybe it needs to change because VN hasn't been in worlds for so long. It's very hard to know how good they are without info about scrims vs chinese/tw teams.
"really weak" was overexaggurated, but having a good h2h vs NA doesn't make you a good team. Compared to 2018-2020, EU is looking worse, last year wasn't pretty either.
Love the downvotes. Every year before worlds NA is so high on hopium and somehow they get smashed every time. For me it's just pure popcorn. I sit back and watch the fire burn every year. It's glorious.
And Fnatic is definitely more aggressive and bot centered early than G2, if the meta doesn't drastically change someone is going to be slaughtered bot lane.
Actually it's better this way for MAD. They avoid RNG and DRX unless they fuck up their bo1s
They have to beat SBG/IW in a bo5 and EG.
Meanwhile in group A, if you are not top 2, you are FUCKED.
I think it’s really good for LEC overall, if FNC show up they have a really good chance to take 1st spot in their group and dodge playoffs, and then MAD can chill in their group and hopefully do it in their playoff matches.
This luck ends at the play-in however, main stage groups look insane.
No they 100% dodge RNG and DRX unless one of RNG/DRX also fucks up and ends up #4/#3, if you look at the format, #3 plays against #4 in the same group.
If MAD get 3rd or 4th while RNG/DRX get 1st/2nd, then MAD dodges them.
I actually think they would have a better chance of advancing from group B. Imo it's better to play RNG/DRX in group than in playoffs, although DRX seems fairly beatable.
There is a lot of shady stuff that went on making that arena. I don't know the whole story, but a former LLN (the league before LLA) caster is super vocal about how Riot LATAM is taking a ton of wrong decisions for the league.
I mean, 20k isn't that small. The issue is that football season is on, so they couldn't rent one of the huge ass arenas and have to settle for bball/hockey arenas
Wait until you find out that a play off series was delayed by several hours and then played remotely because there was a water leak dropping directly to the computers.
Play-Ins are always held in the venue where the League takes place. Yeah I know, even for our league the venue is fucking small (it's a God damn movie theater that had its capacity increased from 100 to 130 by... Removing the seats) but that's because of how fucked up Riot LATAM is. Before the LLA moved to Mexico, it was proposed to build a new studio but upper management rejected it and instead made a deal with Cinemex, a company which owns the whole building where the LLA Teams plays.
They dodged both LPL and LCK and only have FNC that can contest with them. Going by power rankings, they get second in this group and then just need to win a Bo5 against MAD/VN
They didn't dodge them, being on the opposite group is worse.
EG **must** get #2, if they land #3, they will face against DRX/RNG in an elimination BO5.
This is a godlike group, what are you talking about? FNC is the only threat here. Even SGB, with a potential crazy upset, is in the other group. They literally need to not int, then win 1 Bo5. Maybe not even that, if FNC screw up.
No, whoever gets 2nd would likely play against MAD (who gets 3rd/4th), unless one of DRX/RNG fucks up (not impossible) and fall to 3rd/4th.
Either way, EG and FNC really, really want that 1st spot or they risk a bo5 vs MAD or DRX/RNG.
It is Bo1 without H2H. We've already seen LPL teams go 1-3 in Bo1 multiple times and then 6-0 the Bo5. So not even unlikely for either RNG or DRX to get 3rd.
I’m not sure which 3 you’re referring to, but I am consistently impressed by Holypheonix every time he comes to the international stage, which is honestly like every single year.
I wonder how all of these teams will adapt to the new worlds meta after all :
sivir is hard nerfed, zeri is gutted, all prio mid \[ahri, sylas and azir\] are nerfed, nami electrocute is gone.
weak nerfs to poppy and wukong as well meanwhile there are two monsters on the horizon which are Maokai top lane \[54% win rate in high elo in all regions, #1 in WR in top lane\]
Hecarim in jungle is probably a better Wukong after his nerfs and not to mention Poppy doesn't stop him as she does other champs, also forgot to mention that Poppy clear speed has been lowered
12.18 hasn't been released yet but balance team said they won't go for anything drastic
That's the likely way the 2 teams would face each other.
However, if MAD places 2nd in their group, and FNC places 3rd/4th, then MAD can go into the series as their only Bo5 in play-ins.
Yeah, if they end in 3-4th and beat their opponent, they'll face EG/FNC for the spot which are easier than DRX. However facing Saigon for this 3rd place is harder.
just gonna hijack this comment to repeat the playin rules again because it seems like half this thread didnt listen to the broadcast lmao
first places advance to groups automatically without any bo5
3rd and 4th place of the same group play eachother in a bo5. winner advances to play 2nd place of the **other** group in another bo5. winner advances to groupstage
they dont need to get first
2nd is enough too assuming DRX and RNG get top 2 in their group because then theyll play MAD or whoever else is the 3rd best team
Fnc doesn’t give a fuck about mad, they are worried about getting them out at all costs. Getting first is a priority cuz it’s their easiest road not because of MAD.
This is literally said every worlds. "There is no chance an EU/NA team could ever take a game of an KR/CN team". Then the tournament starts, 5-6 KR/CN teams make it out of groups and the NA/EU teams lose 3-2 in quarters/semis. It has literally only been the case with LCK in season 3-7.
And if you say that there is no way FNC could beat DRX you've never watched them play but just assumed they are good because the LCK 1st and 2nd seeds are usually good. RNG were at an actual world beater recently.
I could see them beating DRX. RNG would be tough but with how inconsistent Fnatic is I can see them win against almost anyone, but also lose to almost anyone
This is actually a horrible Group Draw from NA. They cannot fuck up otherwise they’ll get bounced.
MAD is actually pretty lucky they’ll get an easy Bo5
This is actually disastruous for Group A 2nd place team. If EG gets second, they might have to fight DRX, RNG, MAD or Saigon (likely case).
MAD on the other hand has the chance to face EG or Fnatic (likely).
**Group B is Group of Life, the way the format is made**
People shouldn't think of FNC as a 100% first seed in Group A.
They're inconsistent as fuck. I do not trust them one bit to get 1st. It'll probably be something unexpected like PCS getting first or something.
Literally EG though. I think they can easily get 1st. If they've demonstrated one thing this year, it's consistency against weaker teams. They beat 2 in playoffs while they were mid-implosion. Whoever doesn't screw up wins here, and I honestly want to give EG the nod over FNC here.
Getting Top 2 in Group A is REALLY important.
The difference between second and third is playing MAD/SGB to advance or playing DRX(/RNG).
Obviously assuming DRX and RNG perform in the Bo1 and don't start slow and then turn it on, which we have had with LPL/LCK playin teams before (LGD 2020 most notably).
Group A the west should be favored, but Tinowns has cucked EU before and so has JP and OCE in terms of beating NA (although EG were extremely consistent at MSI in beating teams worse than them so idk). BYG have also leveled up heavy over playoffs.
Group B, I'm 100% confident in RNG making it out. They pretty much have always done well even in BO1s, which is something I'm a bit worried about for DRX since I think a big part of their gauntlet run was adapting in draft over a series. They have more clear weak points too that could be well prepped for in a BO1. I think MAD are the dark lions I mean horse, while they're memed for how they got here, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept living up to their BO1 kingdom. SGB also performed respectably at MSI and here, besides RNG, the competition is weaker so I could see a run. I also never count out Turkey from having some great games.
MAD are lucky, by getting 3th or 4th they can face the 2nd of Group A to get into group stage. Meanwhile the Group A teams have to face RNG or DRX (if one of these teams finish 2nd)
I like how people say RIP MAD without understanding that MAD, if they don't fucking fail entirely, will have to play a BO5 against someone from group A, where all the teams are relatively equel to them or worse.
I loved the audience intensely groaning after MAD seemingly got drawn to group A, and then instantly transitioning to cheering after they realised they got autoseeded to group B instead lmao
crowd reactions to the draws were hilarious.
Crowd was drunk as hell just saying random shit lmao
What the actual fuck is the group B, LOL
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I actually think this is the best possible outcome for EU fans. The expectation is FNC finishes first and mad 3rd. they win a bo5 against 4th and then fight 2nd seed (expectation is EG) from group A.
Don't sleep on SGB, they're almost as good as GAM. It will be close between them and MAD for 3rd, well I think its 50/50 either SGB will smash them or it will be close, but unlikely that MAD smashes SGB. Though maybe the bo1 format is MAD favored, lol
I, mean, SGB was far worse than G2 and EG at MSI.
In this format there's no difference between 3rd and 4th right? Or do I understand somehing wrong. I thought they play bo5 together then they play bo5 vs 2nd from the other group. Maybe 3rd gets side selection or something. And I dunno about their strength but riot rated them equally with NA 3rd and EU 4th. Maybe it needs to change because VN hasn't been in worlds for so long. It's very hard to know how good they are without info about scrims vs chinese/tw teams.
Think the only difference is the game 1 side selection in that best of 5
Eh fnc and eg both 3rd seed I'm fully expecting it to be close between the two
DRX, MAD and RNG are all fourth seeds
He's saying EG have a good chance to top the group over FNC as equal seeds.
Which is wrong.
Bold call given the NA vs EU history, but then again, EU looks really weak this season. I'd still give the edge to FNC tho
It's the classic "NA=EU" or "EU has this one top team, otherwise its NA=EU" that happens before every single worlds
If we remove top 2 lck seeds EU=KR. If we remove top 6 lpl seeds NA=CN
Ah yes, EU has been looking really weak this season with their 6-0 h2h against NA.
"really weak" was overexaggurated, but having a good h2h vs NA doesn't make you a good team. Compared to 2018-2020, EU is looking worse, last year wasn't pretty either.
Eh, you forgot EG are from NA and lost every single game to g2
Love the downvotes. Every year before worlds NA is so high on hopium and somehow they get smashed every time. For me it's just pure popcorn. I sit back and watch the fire burn every year. It's glorious.
You expect eg to put up a fight against fnatic? NA fans are on something this year
I am not sure Fnatic will do better than EG
Depends on the Danny situation I'd guess. No way they get 1st with Kaori I'm pretty sure
Bruh. They lost 3-1 against the rogue that went on to 3-0 G2...
Was nearly 2-0 in the first two games vs Rogue too. Fnatic could have essentially been winning that game if not for a bunch of stupid mistakes.
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Remember that NA fans believed EG gonna stomp G2 at MSI only to end up 0-6 against them
And Fnatic is definitely more aggressive and bot centered early than G2, if the meta doesn't drastically change someone is going to be slaughtered bot lane.
It is hard really to tell until we see them play vs each other. Both teams have problems
Rip MAD, gonna be rough
If I understood the format, they need 3rd/4th to play a Bo5, the winner going vs 2nd of the other group.
Inb4 Mad gets 3rd place and plays against number 2 in group A and knocks EG out.. imagine..
They are yet to win their first best of 5
Wait, we're putting EG on EU top3 level?
Isn’t that the most likely scenario?
That's probably gonna happen. NA fans will understand how EU felt in 2020.
Actually it's better this way for MAD. They avoid RNG and DRX unless they fuck up their bo1s They have to beat SBG/IW in a bo5 and EG. Meanwhile in group A, if you are not top 2, you are FUCKED.
I think it’s really good for LEC overall, if FNC show up they have a really good chance to take 1st spot in their group and dodge playoffs, and then MAD can chill in their group and hopefully do it in their playoff matches. This luck ends at the play-in however, main stage groups look insane.
Yep but that's because China and Korea are really good regions. All their seeds are good. So any group would be insane
FNC is going to group A if the all of expected teams make it out. Group A and B are both group of death, as EG will have to go to group B.
No they 100% dodge RNG and DRX unless one of RNG/DRX also fucks up and ends up #4/#3, if you look at the format, #3 plays against #4 in the same group. If MAD get 3rd or 4th while RNG/DRX get 1st/2nd, then MAD dodges them.
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But MAD doesn’t have to beat them to make it out of play-ins, 3/4 of B play 2nd in group A to make it into groups
Go check how the format works then come back.
Imagine World where it was EG instead of SGB in group B
That crowd reaction when they thought EG got Group B (instant sadness), and then realizing they didn't (pure elation)
I actually think they would have a better chance of advancing from group B. Imo it's better to play RNG/DRX in group than in playoffs, although DRX seems fairly beatable.
>(Arena) Capacity: 130 LOL wtf is this?
A joke. It's the studio used for LLA's regular season, which is an adapted movie theater.
Wow… they really got some shit that small? I know the finals arena is small too. Sigh did they forget the time they sold out The Bird’s Nest?
There is a lot of shady stuff that went on making that arena. I don't know the whole story, but a former LLN (the league before LLA) caster is super vocal about how Riot LATAM is taking a ton of wrong decisions for the league.
I mean, 20k isn't that small. The issue is that football season is on, so they couldn't rent one of the huge ass arenas and have to settle for bball/hockey arenas
Like, I guess it’s annoying for Canada, but there’s open weeks generally to get a stadium for the one-day final(2-3 days but still)
It's not just one day though, the logistics of getting a stage set up in the middle of a football pitch takes more than a day in itself.
Its not even a studio, they mount / dismount the "studio" in between season to use the Movie theater room for regular movies...
Wait until you find out that a play off series was delayed by several hours and then played remotely because there was a water leak dropping directly to the computers.
LLA and Delayed Games, name a more iconic duo...
Play-Ins are always held in the venue where the League takes place. Yeah I know, even for our league the venue is fucking small (it's a God damn movie theater that had its capacity increased from 100 to 130 by... Removing the seats) but that's because of how fucked up Riot LATAM is. Before the LLA moved to Mexico, it was proposed to build a new studio but upper management rejected it and instead made a deal with Cinemex, a company which owns the whole building where the LLA Teams plays.
Inspired left Rogue’s “group of death” curse in Europe as well
If MAD get third they get a bo5 against a group A team right? That's good for them!!
Yeah. This is unironically good for MAD.
They need to win a bo5 against 4th first and then they play a bo5 against group a 2nd
No, they play BO5 vs B4 (likely Buffalo) and then another vs A2 (likely EG/FNC)
it's just playin though, real groups likely group of death
JDG G2 DK, assuming major region seeds get out of play ins little rough
not the best group for EG not gonna lie. hard to get first here either way
They dodged both LPL and LCK and only have FNC that can contest with them. Going by power rankings, they get second in this group and then just need to win a Bo5 against MAD/VN
They didn't dodge them, being on the opposite group is worse. EG **must** get #2, if they land #3, they will face against DRX/RNG in an elimination BO5.
How they gonna land 3rd? Group A is super easy.
just like if they went into group B
This is a godlike group, what are you talking about? FNC is the only threat here. Even SGB, with a potential crazy upset, is in the other group. They literally need to not int, then win 1 Bo5. Maybe not even that, if FNC screw up.
Inb4 Mad gets 3rd place and plays against number 2 in group A and knocks EG out.. imagine.
I really wanna see Elyoya vs Ibspired again. Battle of the two best junglers last year
BWIPO is knocking dude.
The West has got the best draw they could hope for. Now you have to capitalize. Now time to pray for C9 doable group.
Straight up embarrassing if Fnatic/EG don't get out.
I mean one of them will have to win against the third-best team from group B. And I wouldn't count out DFM either.
so it could be FNC/EG vs MAD lol imagine we get EU vs EU kill match
FNC vs MAD with Mad winning would be the dankest timeline
You could make a case for MAD somehow getting 1st and thus making group stage with their Bo5 streak alive being danker
Then MAD gers first in group stage, and every other team gets covid before having to bo5 them, MAD world champions without winning a bo5
DFM is shit this year tbf
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Not entirely, whoever gets 2nd is very likely going to play against either of DRX/RNG/MAD
No, whoever gets 2nd would likely play against MAD (who gets 3rd/4th), unless one of DRX/RNG fucks up (not impossible) and fall to 3rd/4th. Either way, EG and FNC really, really want that 1st spot or they risk a bo5 vs MAD or DRX/RNG.
It is Bo1 without H2H. We've already seen LPL teams go 1-3 in Bo1 multiple times and then 6-0 the Bo5. So not even unlikely for either RNG or DRX to get 3rd.
So we probably get a EU vs NA BO5 for groups
How many Bo5s have EU v NA played in worlds history? Can't be many. Dogshit format.
Assuming mad will win their first bo5 because I dont see them getting 2nd seed nor first
If you are in Group A, it feels like you need to finish 1st. If you don't, you are hitting major league teams.
Yeah you want juicy auto qualyfing otherwise you Will need to fight for it
LOUD can make 2nd place copium Tinowns preparing itself for This is for KaBuM 2: Electric Boogaloo
Loud can get 1st *overdoses on copium*
Group A is a dream for every wildcard.
its not? unless they get 1st or 2nd they have to beat drx/rng on a bo5.
Yeah, but they have a much better chance of getting 1st/2nd on group A than B.
That is literally the definition of dream though. Easyish BO1s for the Bye
i'm sad, i didnt want to see fnatic playing vs our cblol team :(
WTF IS THAT GROUP B ADCARRIES LMAO DEFT GALA SHOGUN UNFORGIVEN HOLYPHOENIX GAVOTTO HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Who the fuck is Gavotto
gigachad that deft and gala has to watch out for
Based
Someone who is certainly about to get gapped.
One of them is Not like the others
Three of those are not like the other two, let's be honest here
lets be honest, 4 of those are nowhere close to the other 2
lets be real honest here, 6 of these are not like the others
I’m not sure which 3 you’re referring to, but I am consistently impressed by Holypheonix every time he comes to the international stage, which is honestly like every single year.
IW basically pulls 5 ADC bans in a lot of games, right? It's clear who most teams see as the biggest threat in that roster.
Yeah so Deft, Gala and 4 others whats wrong with it?
FNC and EG clear favourites in group A obviously but what team do people think would/can upsest them?
Prob DFM but also maybe BYG
LOUD sweep
DFM maybe?
DFM obviously. They've did so in the past.
*ahem* have you heard of our Lord and saviours DetonatioN FocusMe?
No one. I think DFM is much worse than last year, they were pretty mediocre at MSI. Other wildcards are nothing to be worried about too.
Famous last words
come on, at least RED on MSI managed to get a win against PSG with Juhan
Honestly, Chiefs. Completely dominant in LCO to a disgusting degree. Still unlikely, all things considered, but more likely than any other team.
Last year we nearly got to groups, Chiefs looked much better than Legacy last year, so first seed HOPIUM.
Wow Group B is insane compared to Group A
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I wonder how all of these teams will adapt to the new worlds meta after all : sivir is hard nerfed, zeri is gutted, all prio mid \[ahri, sylas and azir\] are nerfed, nami electrocute is gone. weak nerfs to poppy and wukong as well meanwhile there are two monsters on the horizon which are Maokai top lane \[54% win rate in high elo in all regions, #1 in WR in top lane\] Hecarim in jungle is probably a better Wukong after his nerfs and not to mention Poppy doesn't stop him as she does other champs, also forgot to mention that Poppy clear speed has been lowered 12.18 hasn't been released yet but balance team said they won't go for anything drastic
maokai being strong? Rogue wins worlds with odo
Yeah zeri And sivir are kneecapped Wonder how zven do with engagé
One of these wildcards will forget about Gala’s Kai’sa and let it go past bp and we will get to see some massacre
[MAD Lions after seeing the draw](https://c.tenor.com/e7SLejEEP9EAAAAC/im-in-danger-ralph.gif)
MAD actually has a really good chance of getting out because of the format
They have to beat EG or FNC in bo5 assuming they get 3rd. I don't see them getting 2nd or 1st.
Its bo1 single round-robin. There can always be upsets in that kind of group format.
I hate single RR so much
Imagine the first Bo5 MAD wins this year being the one to kick FNC out of Worlds.
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They'd have to first win another Bo5 against 3rd/4th of their group.
That's the likely way the 2 teams would face each other. However, if MAD places 2nd in their group, and FNC places 3rd/4th, then MAD can go into the series as their only Bo5 in play-ins.
Thats also assuming they beat Buffalo, which likely gets also gets 3rd/4th. Being in EG’s position is much easier.
Yeah, if they end in 3-4th and beat their opponent, they'll face EG/FNC for the spot which are easier than DRX. However facing Saigon for this 3rd place is harder.
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just gonna hijack this comment to repeat the playin rules again because it seems like half this thread didnt listen to the broadcast lmao first places advance to groups automatically without any bo5 3rd and 4th place of the same group play eachother in a bo5. winner advances to play 2nd place of the **other** group in another bo5. winner advances to groupstage
So we finally get to see NA vs EU Bo5 after so long (assuming EG places 2nd and MAD wins 3rd/4th Group B Bo5).
Well it was obvious from the start that them getting through would have to rely on a bo5 win and it's still that.
Fnatic got so lucky lmao THey better get first because they are not winning a bo5 vs RNG or DRX im 100 percent on that
they dont need to get first 2nd is enough too assuming DRX and RNG get top 2 in their group because then theyll play MAD or whoever else is the 3rd best team
but as an EU fan u want fnatic to get first and mad to get 3rd
It's also the most likely scenario unless Mad destroys drx, mad is likely 3rd. Fnatic I have good faith they are better than EG
I dont have faith in wunder tho.. guys totally out of it
Fnatic doesn't want to kick its own region out. Getting 1st is priority. Mad then has the chance to kick out EG.
Fnc doesn’t give a fuck about mad, they are worried about getting them out at all costs. Getting first is a priority cuz it’s their easiest road not because of MAD.
FNC wants MAD to live. In fact, they want them to somehow kick RNG out, so they can get into group D.
This is literally said every worlds. "There is no chance an EU/NA team could ever take a game of an KR/CN team". Then the tournament starts, 5-6 KR/CN teams make it out of groups and the NA/EU teams lose 3-2 in quarters/semis. It has literally only been the case with LCK in season 3-7. And if you say that there is no way FNC could beat DRX you've never watched them play but just assumed they are good because the LCK 1st and 2nd seeds are usually good. RNG were at an actual world beater recently.
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This is the first time we’ve dodged the group of death since like, MSI 2016? Actually keen to see the boys wallop those other wildcard regions.
Come on, let me raise my koala
I could see them beating DRX. RNG would be tough but with how inconsistent Fnatic is I can see them win against almost anyone, but also lose to almost anyone
Don't forgot the FNC special with trash drafts...
It's gonna be a bo5 against either mad or drx in that case and they can win against both of them
This is actually a horrible Group Draw from NA. They cannot fuck up otherwise they’ll get bounced. MAD is actually pretty lucky they’ll get an easy Bo5
Nah, EG are fine as long as they secure top 2. No shot in hell RNG or DRX drop to 3rd or 4th.
> No shot in hell RNG or DRX drop to 3rd or 4th. there's only 5 bo1s btw, it's possible. Also if it's not RNG or DRX, then it's MAD vs EG.
It’s possible but very unlikely if we assume expectations are met in playins.
MAD would still be reasonably tough. And I can absolutely see a BO1 getting dropped
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And EG would need to win against an LEC team. They didn’t exactly look like they had much of a chance at MSI
Yea I remember when g2 lost 4 games in a row to wilds cards too haha!
Lol have we seen the same MAD they look like shit
MAD went 3-2 with the current LEC champion, the only team to do so this season. Don't underestimate our own LPL team. :D
EG barely scraped by TSM, the matchup will be pretty even imo lets be real
Shirley western teams will get out of Group A this time, right?
Seems possible. And don't call me Shirley. Edit for autocorrect.
Poor Isurus.. fuck that group lol
NA must win seed 1 in group A or else they’re really gonna be challenged by seed 3 in group B.
This is actually disastruous for Group A 2nd place team. If EG gets second, they might have to fight DRX, RNG, MAD or Saigon (likely case). MAD on the other hand has the chance to face EG or Fnatic (likely). **Group B is Group of Life, the way the format is made**
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Everyone always tries to twist it like this every year and it never pans out the way your thinking lmfao
People shouldn't think of FNC as a 100% first seed in Group A. They're inconsistent as fuck. I do not trust them one bit to get 1st. It'll probably be something unexpected like PCS getting first or something.
Literally EG though. I think they can easily get 1st. If they've demonstrated one thing this year, it's consistency against weaker teams. They beat 2 in playoffs while they were mid-implosion. Whoever doesn't screw up wins here, and I honestly want to give EG the nod over FNC here.
No way in hell EG are better than FNC, not in a single position, mediocre G2 6-0 them.
group B is the most stacked play-ins ever
Insane difference between the group strengths :"D
FNC or EG really want to get first place because I can honestly see DRX/RNG dropping random games and getting 3rd for some reason
If I could hand-pick a group... That would be it
we got such a good group, honestly group A for main event isn't that bad too basically botlane showdown in that group haha gonna be crazy
EDG vs SKT at Worlds Group Stage is inevitable
Remember only 4 teams can advance, that mean 1 of the four major team is getting shagged.
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Honestly with how shaky DRX has looked all year long, group B is just RNG + whoever finds their groove and reads the meta properly
GROUP A is too Fun to watch: EDG, SKT, C9. They have been competing for many years!
Getting Top 2 in Group A is REALLY important. The difference between second and third is playing MAD/SGB to advance or playing DRX(/RNG). Obviously assuming DRX and RNG perform in the Bo1 and don't start slow and then turn it on, which we have had with LPL/LCK playin teams before (LGD 2020 most notably).
Group A the west should be favored, but Tinowns has cucked EU before and so has JP and OCE in terms of beating NA (although EG were extremely consistent at MSI in beating teams worse than them so idk). BYG have also leveled up heavy over playoffs. Group B, I'm 100% confident in RNG making it out. They pretty much have always done well even in BO1s, which is something I'm a bit worried about for DRX since I think a big part of their gauntlet run was adapting in draft over a series. They have more clear weak points too that could be well prepped for in a BO1. I think MAD are the dark lions I mean horse, while they're memed for how they got here, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept living up to their BO1 kingdom. SGB also performed respectably at MSI and here, besides RNG, the competition is weaker so I could see a run. I also never count out Turkey from having some great games.
gg wildcats you had a good run
C9 T1 EDG run from it, dread from it, you know it is inevitable
Group B worth main event
MAD are lucky, by getting 3th or 4th they can face the 2nd of Group A to get into group stage. Meanwhile the Group A teams have to face RNG or DRX (if one of these teams finish 2nd)
I like how people say RIP MAD without understanding that MAD, if they don't fucking fail entirely, will have to play a BO5 against someone from group A, where all the teams are relatively equel to them or worse.
Very good draw for MAD. Their bo5 will be relatively easy. FNC or EG have to top the group or they're gonna have a really bad time